The Syndicate

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2019 12:31 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2019 12:09 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 11:39 pm Better than game of thrones finale anyway. Heyo!

As a book reader who refuses to watch the show, this has been a spring of vindication.

Omg someone else like me exists.

same here!

Welcome new players!
As for my read on LC I'm undecided at the moment. I think despite a slow start and some jokey post that he could be bad this game I'm not super suspicious of him right now. I think he has put forth some effort into figuring things out.

The thing with spirityo is he isn't trying to participate in any discussion or talk about anything that's happening or make cases or reads or anything. Jack is also coming up with incorrect conspiracy theories about me but he at least has put forth a little more effort into it. It's like spirit threw out a random option and then jack took it and ran with it trying to make a case and spirit doesnt have to do anything.

Sucks we weren't as successful this time around sighhhh.
The case against Mata seemed legit and made sense.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2019 1:57 pm The biggest hangup that I have regarding a sabie lynch is that I don't have any direct reason to trust sprityo. He's doing less than nothing to convince people to follow him and hasn't really supplied us with anything to read him by except an out-of-left-field certainty that sabie is bad. That could be a hint about genuine role info. Or it could be a mafia member who thinks they can wreak havoc and avoid the noose by being too weird and suggesting he has info.

So [mention]sprityo[/mention] you want me to lynch sabie? Show me you're serious. Hunt for other baddies.

This is what I've been saying that spirityo hasnt offered any reads or really posted much other than cause chaos and to accuse me.

All I'm saying is if Mata implies ultras votes mean something why did they not address the fact that ultra is voting for them?

Luxurious wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 10:18 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 10:16 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 10:06 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 7:33 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 12:35 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 11:21 am Actually, how does an Ultra lynch sound to you guys.

Stop testing the waters and just go for me you pussy

Actually the proper quote for this is "Do it bitch" which won best quote in the sockys! Haha

Also, the identical attitude from Wolbre (?) was followed by the revelation that he was, in fact, bad. Makes me suspect Ultra of being in the same position.

I have been wondering about ultra. Also Mata voted me after I said ultra voted me and changed their mind which was just a statement of fact not a question. But they changed their vote to Mata. So Mata suspects me because ultra voted for them instead of me?
Sorry I don't know pronouns for everyone.

I’m assuming mata is under ultra/sabie associations

What?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 10:06 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 7:33 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 12:35 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 11:21 am Actually, how does an Ultra lynch sound to you guys.

Stop testing the waters and just go for me you pussy

Actually the proper quote for this is "Do it bitch" which won best quote in the sockys! Haha

Also, the identical attitude from Wolbre (?) was followed by the revelation that he was, in fact, bad. Makes me suspect Ultra of being in the same position.

I have been wondering about ultra. Also Mata voted me after I said ultra voted me and changed their mind which was just a statement of fact not a question. But they changed their vote to Mata. So Mata suspects me because ultra voted for them instead of me?
Sorry I don't know pronouns for everyone.

Ultra wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 12:35 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 11:21 am Actually, how does an Ultra lynch sound to you guys.

Stop testing the waters and just go for me you pussy

Actually the proper quote for this is "Do it bitch" which won best quote in the sockys! Haha



Anyway voting Mata read through iso again not a fan of anything they're contributing so far making it a point to be like hey I'm town and defensive responses.
About to play some d and d. I'll be back on after.

Okay just caught up and read what happened today. To respond to the questions people asked about my comments on spirityo. There was a game called world asunder. In that game spirityo came outta nowhere accusing me and we went back and forth arguing about the fact that he was wrong and it was very frustrating. I was proven right by the end of it. It was dumb.
I don't think I ever said I was town reading spirityo I thought hes been kinda sketchy this game so far with the way he just kinda says a bunch of random stuff doesn't care about reading then is like hey let's vote for sabie.
I'm not sure why jack is following spirityos vote other than he asked him to. Ultra also was quick to join in on that but then switched.

Ultra wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 7:22 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 6:52 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 5:28 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 5:14 pm Spirityos contributions so far have been short random posts without giving any thoughts or reads and then randomly comes in and is like sabie is bad with no explanation. He did that to me before and eventually everyone realized he was wrong and that's what's happening again. Sighhhhh and I was just mislynched in another game again.
I can see where the suspicion of Mata and nutella comes from. Nutella is always kinda iffy and from what I've seen of Mata so far I'm not convinced they're town.

Eh this is a bad post

No, it isn't.

Appeal to previous performances/claims to force a repeat narrative and also call the credibility of the accuser into question is a fairly scummy defense.

Also like, I feel like if this were actually genuine, her response would be more along the lines of "why are you doing this again spirityo?" rather than expositioning to the thread

The thing people dont ever get about me is that I'm always genuine. This is actually what happened in world asunder and it was super annoying. I had to keep fighting and defending myself over and over about reasoning that turned out to be complete bs. And can you say that I'm wrong about spirityos prior contributions? I thought he was sketchy even before this whole thing. He basically said he didnt read anything just wanted to make a 3 way tie and cause chaos and that's it. Didnt say who he was voting for or why or anything really.

Spirityos contributions so far have been short random posts without giving any thoughts or reads and then randomly comes in and is like sabie is bad with no explanation. He did that to me before and eventually everyone realized he was wrong and that's what's happening again. Sighhhhh and I was just mislynched in another game again.
I can see where the suspicion of Mata and nutella comes from. Nutella is always kinda iffy and from what I've seen of Mata so far I'm not convinced they're town.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 8:59 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 8:54 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 8:49 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 8:08 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 7:48 pm Much of where this site came from was birthed in Lostpedia Forums many years ago. One man brought this Mafia game to the forum, and a good group latched on and began developing games off the original formula, which didn't reveal the roles of nightkilled folk. This was just the normal way Mafia was played. We developed our Mafia methods over the years, across several forums, mostly unaware of the existence of a larger Mafia community on the Internet until a few years ago.

We developed some general rules, like no info-dumping or role-claiming, because such things were perceived to be ruining the game. A baddie team could spend the whole game masterfully crafting a sweet win, only to be tanked by Blurting Bob and his info role. It was regarded as cheap. Most games over the years have been open setup role madness, as well.

Now, we sometimes can claim, sometimes not. Some open, some closed. Some simple, some madness. Some janitored nightkills, some not. Some games are such offshoots that they barely resemble Mafia anymore.

It's not you can't make scum powerful enough to counter those cops. A couple invest immune baddies, framers, baddies that if investigated have it be redirected to specifically a townie. It doesn't ruin the game if you're creative.

It's not like*

You are right Dragomir just keep in mind LC is talking about how we operated 10+ years ago. Things have changed a lot since then.

Sure, but you guys are still playing similarly now with no info-dumping, role claims or night kills. But ay, I guess that's your forum's culture. Jutst gotta accept it.

Different games sometimes do allow that. It depends on the host or the dynamics of the game.

Good job guys! Sorry I wasn't able to be here end of day. I'm always a little iffy on lynching low participating people early on but I'm glad it worked out this time.

Idk how much time I'm going to have with everything going on so I'm placing my vote on lux. That's where my suspicions have been thus far. I will try to check in periodically when I have a chance.

Thank you all for understanding. I have been keeping up and trying to read as much as I can. I have to go be with my family but I will still try to make it for end of day and make sure to get a vote in.

Out of the people currently with votes I think my suspicions are more towards lux.
Nutella is iffy and difficult to read because she is often pretty wishy washy as people said but I think right now I feel worse about lux.
I dont think cooler has really said much of anything and ultra idk I just figured they're new and trying to figure out how we do things.
I will take a look at some of the other people mentioned as well and reread lux iso.

Also I think I saw juliets you have been having a hard time I do hope you're okay!
I've had some stuff come up irl as well that has held me back from participating as much as I'd like to. My uncle unfortunately passed last week so I've had some family stuff going on.

Hey I was busy dying a horrible death in better off Ted mafia so now that that's over I'm back over here.
From the people who currently have votes wilgy is iffy because I remember leading an accidental mislynch on him on another game for acting how he is now. Drogomir idk them I'll have to read a bit more from them. Sloonei seems like normal town sloonei as of right now
Nutella is always kinda back and forth and I've seen her and sloonei go back and forth before like that but I dont think they were teammates.
Lux I can see where the suspicion came from there. The wording of their posts and that comment about the mafia teams was a little suspect.
Juliets I would have to read again as I don't recall what she's even said so far.
And now as I was typing sloonei changed the vote to ultra. Is that due to all that mechanics talk ik the beginning trying to get the cop role to out themselves?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 1:34 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 7:21 am I can see both sides of the argument on gth reads. I always end up not being around when they happen so I always miss it. This early I kinda struggle to have any good reads on anyone so it's hard to decide that quickly. At the same time I also get slooneis point that it gets a conversation going and moves things in a direction. From what I've seen slooneis usual goal is to try to post a lot and get people talking in the beginning of the game.

Hey sabie. Let's start with the players you know best: what do you think of Epi, nutella, juliets, and me so far?

Well you are doing what you normally do in making long posts getting people talking asking questions etc which has a lot of times been town sloon. I feel like you and nutella have had a back and forth thing in some games before. She's usually kinda back and forth on things so I find her hard to read. Juliets is always so nice so shes hard to read too. Epi appears to be his usual self at the moment.
You left out some other people I usually play with. jack who I feel like is doing his usual town jack stuff at the moment where he posts a lot of random stuff. That time he was bad he was way more calm and reserved it seemed.
I always tend to think mac and speed are bad which is probably unfair of me.
The newer people I think are just kinda trying to work out how we play on this site.
Still dont feel like I have solid reads for sure about people but I'm trying to keep up with everything. This day 0 has been crazy.

I can see both sides of the argument on gth reads. I always end up not being around when they happen so I always miss it. This early I kinda struggle to have any good reads on anyone so it's hard to decide that quickly. At the same time I also get slooneis point that it gets a conversation going and moves things in a direction. From what I've seen slooneis usual goal is to try to post a lot and get people talking in the beginning of the game.

Matahari wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 5:08 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:57 pm Let's ISO Matahari then.

Matahari wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 12:12 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 11:00 pm I don't suspect Ultra. Bottom line.

I suspect Matahari.

lee me lone. I’m tryna watch Shetland.

I can buy this as a timid, forced casual entry by mafia.

Matahari wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:27 pm

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 3:09 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 9:38 pm Question regarding the no claims rule - does that mean if you're the cop/tracker/whatever you can't state your results?

Ultra wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 9:49 pm Hot take

Felicity player should use her one shot on Rip Hunter to prevent Cult Shenanigans

MM, what was the point of this post? Were you answering someone, because I couldn’t find anything that indicated that.

Crap ton of linki

This question exists. It is over a half hour old. I believe MafiaMenace replied? I dunno, the thread is moving at lightspeed. The point is I'm not sure what the point of this post is.

Matahari wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:43 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:29 pm

Matahari wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:27 pm

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 3:09 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 9:38 pm Question regarding the no claims rule - does that mean if you're the cop/tracker/whatever you can't state your results?

Ultra wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 9:49 pm Hot take

Felicity player should use her one shot on Rip Hunter to prevent Cult Shenanigans

MM, what was the point of this post? Were you answering someone, because I couldn’t find anything that indicated that.

Crap ton of linki

Okay, I can see the Matahari scumread earlier.

What scumread?

Then this. That middle post looks like the only attempt on Matahari's part to engaged in gameplay, and it's the bare minimum.

@Matahari do you have any first impressions on players so far? What's your typical approach to a game? Which players are you already familiar with here?

I don’t have any solid impressions on players so far. I don’t know a few of the players at all, and I know most players who are old school here. My typical approach is to read along, try to form opinions about how people interact with each other, ask questions if I don’t understand what people are trying to say, and I rarely post a ton. It usually take two to three days in old school games before I get solid feels on a player.

I have a similar play style. It usually takes me a little bit to get into the game and have reads on people.

A lot happened while I was at work and it seems there are a good amount of players I haven't played with before. Nice to meet you new players!

From what I read a lot of the beginning conversation was about info dumping and all that which some games allow and some don't. I saw that mostly as attempt to strategize and get a feel for how games work on this site. I feel like even when it is allowed it can be risky for that person to out themselves because it leaves them open to being killed off. I remember in the one burglary I played in the cult thing was kind of frustrating because someone who you're pretty sure was town then becomes a cult member and it makes it harder to know who to trust. So I do see the merit in wanting to get rid of the recruiter before they can gain any new members. As people have said though it would have to be not obvious or explicitly stated.

Hey everyone! love these dc shows. Should be fun! Looks like I have a lot to catch up on already.