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Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:35 pm**

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:33 pm
Millium wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:21 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:17 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:56 am
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 3:47 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 3:39 am
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 3:30 am Mac lily if your both town and I'm town than Aro wagon is literally pure except Dya...I know I'm town I have no clue what you are and at this point I kinda have to be paranoid because town is getting shot stomped.

Maybe it's just dya lol
Reiterate your tracker claim and what the information you have says about n1.
I'm a 1 shot tracker with a 2nd ability that gives me double vote if conditions are met.

I think I should have 2 votes today.

I thought Santy was woof because he claimed my role but like way better... apparently no he just had my exact role without restrictions lol

Anyways my tracker is like I dunno the official term for it but I can go back to a previous night and track that night

So n2 I tracked Mac n1 but I meant to track Belzy n1 but I am a dumb stupid idiot who fucked up not like it matters anyways because if I'm RBed either the day I do the track or the day I go back to I return no results so I learned nothing

And because I fucked up every part of my role and I was decidedly annoyed about it and I thought Santy was lying I decided to fake a red instead

And before you ask why Belzy? I've had a tin foil since forever that Belzy and you aren't even in a neighborhood and that you are W/W but it's a tin foil and not something I truly ever want to push without info so I decided to mech clear you but I'm stupid
You meant watcher? Didn't you get a result of Porscha targeted Mac?
No. I misunderstood what I was being told by the mods and lied because I thought I had mech info that I didn't have. When i realized I could have just been RBed I immediately retracted that claim and told the truth and than Ilario came out and said he did RB me.
how, weren't u just told ur action failed?
The wording of the result means I was either role blocked or Porschas ability was used

Either one would make my result fail. I did not know I was RBed so figure it out.

remind again your target on night 2?
and explain to me exactly what ur mindset was, going into what you were told, and ur conclusion coming into day 3 in regards to all the mechanics

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:43 pm**

Millium wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:35 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:33 pm
Millium wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:21 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:17 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:56 am
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 3:47 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 3:39 am

Reiterate your tracker claim and what the information you have says about n1.
I'm a 1 shot tracker with a 2nd ability that gives me double vote if conditions are met.

I think I should have 2 votes today.

I thought Santy was woof because he claimed my role but like way better... apparently no he just had my exact role without restrictions lol

Anyways my tracker is like I dunno the official term for it but I can go back to a previous night and track that night

So n2 I tracked Mac n1 but I meant to track Belzy n1 but I am a dumb stupid idiot who fucked up not like it matters anyways because if I'm RBed either the day I do the track or the day I go back to I return no results so I learned nothing

And because I fucked up every part of my role and I was decidedly annoyed about it and I thought Santy was lying I decided to fake a red instead

And before you ask why Belzy? I've had a tin foil since forever that Belzy and you aren't even in a neighborhood and that you are W/W but it's a tin foil and not something I truly ever want to push without info so I decided to mech clear you but I'm stupid
You meant watcher? Didn't you get a result of Porscha targeted Mac?
No. I misunderstood what I was being told by the mods and lied because I thought I had mech info that I didn't have. When i realized I could have just been RBed I immediately retracted that claim and told the truth and than Ilario came out and said he did RB me.
how, weren't u just told ur action failed?
The wording of the result means I was either role blocked or Porschas ability was used

Either one would make my result fail. I did not know I was RBed so figure it out.
remind again your target on night 2?
and explain to me exactly what ur mindset was, going into what you were told, and ur conclusion coming into day 3 in regards to all the mechanics

I literally just answered this. I've answered this repeatedly.

Frankly I'm sick of answering this.

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:45 pm**

I targeted Mac N2 to see who they visited N1 but I meant to target Belzy I switched targets too late in the night but it didn't matter anyways because I was RBed N1. I wanted to see if Belzy ever even visited Mac N1 because I have had a tinfoil they've been lying this whole game.

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:47 pm**

There are worlds where Ilario is lying since Rondo claims he was not RBed and my result could just mean Mac was targeted by Porschas ability but I am most inclined to just believe Ilario is telling the truth and I have zero info.

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:51 pm**

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:45 pm I targeted Mac N2 to see who they visited N1 but I meant to target Belzy I switched targets too late in the night but it didn't matter anyways because I was RBed N1. I wanted to see if Belzy ever even visited Mac N1 because I have had a tinfoil they've been lying this whole game.

can u repeat that one more time? lmao
Kinda wish u did target Belzy now

if u targeted Mac, you landed on Dya
I still have my reservations that your ability interacts with a roleblock the way it does

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:52 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 12:40 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 12:30 pm Hello all,

Today busy day: work and then the movies; tomorrow I got more time to make cases. For now:

I lied.

I am not hood, but lovers with Mac. I did target Mac, not Dya. If I target Dya, then why should I deny that?

Everyone wants me dead. I was relatively MIA last week cuz of a crazy week work related. The worst is behind me. If you all mislim me, you will lose both me and Mac. No, I don't have a green check on Mac. I was bluffing to test him out. I target Mac cuz I want to feel more sure about my townread on him; I target Mac cuz he's my top townread. I did not leave bread cramps on d1, cuz I also lied about dying if I target scum. Whoever I target will be lovers with me until we die; I will receive no hint of other person's alignment.

I lied cuz I did not want scum to know I am lovers with someone, cuz then 1 kill means 2 dead people; I think 2 dead town.

People townread me until Seanzie pointed out the lack of bread cramps. Now you know why. Nobody is on my side, and all game long: do I look aligned with anyone? Think about it, and also this: if we are one day ahead of lylo (I have no idea), then lynching me deserves a 2nd thought.
Are you trying to say you do NOT have a chat with mac?

No, i do have the chat.

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:52 pm**

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:47 pm There are worlds where Ilario is lying since Rondo claims he was not RBed and my result could just mean Mac was targeted by Porschas ability but I am most inclined to just believe Ilario is telling the truth and I have zero info.

you would have targeted Dya
do we still even have confirmation of Porsches target?

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:53 pm**

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 12:41 pm like why use that power at all?

Mine? I was forced using it n1 or i die alone.

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:53 pm**

@Belzy
why would u target ur top town read with a loverizer, just for the neighbor chat?

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:54 pm**

Belzy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:53 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 12:41 pm like why use that power at all?
Mine? I was forced using it n1 or i die alone.

what does this even mean, forced in what way?
is ur ability compulsive?

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:54 pm**

Millium wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 12:41 pm kekw
@Belzy
Why did u target your top town read with a loverizer?

Mac seemed unlikely to get mislim'd if he's town. And my action offers 50% protection during nights

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:56 pm**

Millium wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:54 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:53 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 12:41 pm like why use that power at all?
Mine? I was forced using it n1 or i die alone.
what does this even mean, forced in what way?
is ur ability compulsive?

I don't know what compulsive mean in this context.

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:57 pm**

Belzy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:54 pm
Millium wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 12:41 pm kekw
@Belzy
Why did u target your top town read with a loverizer?
Mac seemed unlikely to get mislim'd if he's town. And my action offers 50% protection during nights

what are u saying, that you used it on Mac for selfish reasons, of which u didn't think they could get mislynched if he was town, but also didn't acknowledge that he could killed by mafia
50% protection based on what?

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:57 pm**

Belzy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:56 pm
Millium wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:54 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:53 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 12:41 pm like why use that power at all?
Mine? I was forced using it n1 or i die alone.
what does this even mean, forced in what way?
is ur ability compulsive?
I don't know what compulsive mean in this context.

the compulsive modifer means your forced to use your ability every night or until every shot is used up
else idk what u mean by forced

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:58 pm**

Millium wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:57 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:56 pm
Millium wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:54 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:53 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 12:41 pm like why use that power at all?
Mine? I was forced using it n1 or i die alone.
what does this even mean, forced in what way?
is ur ability compulsive?
I don't know what compulsive mean in this context.
the compulsive modifer means your forced to use your ability every night or until every shot is used up
else idk what u mean by forced

It is 1 shot. Forced=compulsive @ n1

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:59 pm**

Millium wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:57 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:54 pm
Millium wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 12:41 pm kekw
@Belzy
Why did u target your top town read with a loverizer?
Mac seemed unlikely to get mislim'd if he's town. And my action offers 50% protection during nights
what are u saying, that you used it on Mac for selfish reasons, of which u didn't think they could get mislynched if he was town, but also didn't acknowledge that he could killed by mafia
50% protection based on what?

50% chance a NK on either of us goes thru

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 2:01 pm**

Millium wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:53 pm @Belzy
why would u target ur top town read with a loverizer, just for the neighbor chat?

The 50% protection at night and being hopeful Mac wont get lynched were the decider

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 2:06 pm**

Ya I dont really get it
There are just too many red flags with the handling of an ability like that, that I just dont believe it ever comes from town

@MacDougall
did they claim this to you already?

worst case is town!Mac dies with Belzy
best case is that this isn't true and Belzy is hoping this saves them

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 2:09 pm**

i hate that the claim keeps changing. First it was I didn't say we were lovers because of fear of a night kill, now it's we have 50% protection

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 2:11 pm**

Belzy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 2:01 pm
Millium wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:53 pm @Belzy
why would u target ur top town read with a loverizer, just for the neighbor chat?
The 50% protection at night and being hopeful Mac wont get lynched were the decider

what do u mean by 50% protection

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 2:54 pm**

Millium wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:52 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:47 pm There are worlds where Ilario is lying since Rondo claims he was not RBed and my result could just mean Mac was targeted by Porschas ability but I am most inclined to just believe Ilario is telling the truth and I have zero info.
you would have targeted Dya
do we still even have confirmation of Porsches target?

I don't believe so because i took the action n2 not n1

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 2:59 pm**

But i didn't think about that possibility

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 3:18 pm**

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 8:25 am ...

What is the chances.

That Neon/Lily are w/w. And this is theatre today.

It is a thought I've had

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 3:23 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 12:40 pm It seems like you're trying to say you're in a hood AND lovers with Mac, but its worded weirdly (or is for me anyways) so I want clarification

obviously we have a chat man

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 3:23 pm**

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:45 pm I targeted Mac N2 to see who they visited N1 but I meant to target Belzy I switched targets too late in the night but it didn't matter anyways because I was RBed N1. I wanted to see if Belzy ever even visited Mac N1 because I have had a tinfoil they've been lying this whole game.

what do you mean you switched too late in the night?

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 3:25 pm**

Millium wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 2:06 pm Ya I dont really get it
There are just too many red flags with the handling of an ability like that, that I just dont believe it ever comes from town

@MacDougall
did they claim this to you already?

worst case is town!Mac dies with Belzy
best case is that this isn't true and Belzy is hoping this saves them

yes

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 3:26 pm**

Anyway I believe their claim. I just think its a wolfclaim. As Millium pointed out the mafia loverising me is enough reason not to kill me.

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:04 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 3:23 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 12:40 pm It seems like you're trying to say you're in a hood AND lovers with Mac, but its worded weirdly (or is for me anyways) so I want clarification
obviously we have a chat man

You never know where people are gonna trip up and there's no downside to probing it

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:13 pm**

well if mac is loverized do we wanna risk voting outside of belzy today so mac can atleast get his vig shot in the night? again i havent done the math so idek if it helps with the numbers. if it doesnt then theres no point.

mafia cant really use the vote block remover thing anymore because it is either out of shots or ender is the one who has it and he will out himself if he uses it again after my rb

ill leave the decision upto mac

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:17 pm**

mafia loverizing mac makes everything make more sense now

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:19 pm**

im worried if we're wrong on belzy and we let mac shoot, we lose the game though

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:22 pm**

i suppose he can shoot belzy in that case and kamikaze his own slot? that would be pretty amusing to me

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:23 pm**

oh yeah isnt it better to just let mac shoot belzy and we vote outside? that way we dont lose the shot..but again i dont know if the shot gives us an extra ml or not

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:24 pm**

oh but this relies on yall thinking im town cos if im mafia i just rb mac LOL

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:25 pm**

why would you even roleblock me as mafia though when it outs you ... I think even if you're a mafia RB you'd let me shoot Belzy here

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:27 pm**

so where do we go if we agree belzy is mafia and mac is shooting them?

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:27 pm**

yeah i would

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:29 pm**

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:27 pm so where do we go if we agree belzy is mafia and mac is shooting them?

i was leaning to neon or just sheep mac, now that ive had every issue of tinfoil addressed with him im fine letting him lead. imma be busy next few days so i kinda would like someone else to do the thinking for me lol

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:36 pm**

so i guess that begs the question, mac. what does your POE look like as of now?

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:37 pm**

personally, id rather we kill a mafia today, then bank on another one
unless someone wants to claim one of the shots today

but at the same time, why does Belzy in all honesty claim they are a loverizer now
if they are town we can add them to the list of people griefing us
I dont count myself because it was day 1, and I was certain I was just gunna get mislynched

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:42 pm**

though if that's the case we end up going with,
i want to vote in Nanook/Lily/Neon

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:43 pm**

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:36 pm so i guess that begs the question, mac. what does your POE look like as of now?

Not sure beyond belzy (even not sure on that).

Has Rondo outed his n3 lie detect yet?

Neon is probably there.

Probably won't ever shake my suspicion of ilario. He's had many moments that have left me wondering if we are reading the same game.

I could raise issues with everyone in the game frankly.

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:44 pm**

no, Rondo hasn't done anything at all today except place a vote on Neon

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:45 pm**

What I'm trying to say is I'm being political today. I'm still sus of you and Ilario (and Wisp).

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:46 pm**

Okay so just chop Rondo and blame him for being useless for town.

Honestly I'd just chop Belzy. If I die meh at least you got a wolf.

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:47 pm**

i thought you said I couldnt be a wolf with belzy

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:51 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 3:23 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:45 pm I targeted Mac N2 to see who they visited N1 but I meant to target Belzy I switched targets too late in the night but it didn't matter anyways because I was RBed N1. I wanted to see if Belzy ever even visited Mac N1 because I have had a tinfoil they've been lying this whole game.
what do you mean you switched too late in the night?

I tried to switch my target to Belzy. It didn't happen.

I misunderstood my ability and thought I saw who visited someone and not who threw person visited so I targeted Mac instead of Belzy.

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:53 pm**

how does one exactly try to switch their target and then have it simply not happen?

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:53 pm**

just thinking about previous night watcher, that would be such a terribly designed role

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:54 pm**

Millium wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:53 pm just thinking about previous night watcher, that would be such a terribly designed role

tracker, I think neon said. And i've seen it before

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