Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [GAME OVER - TOWN WIN]

[Lilypetal]

Mac lily milium or something stupid

Book it

I wanna be wrong one more time before I'm wrongly miskilled tonight lol

i am pretty sure mac and millium are villagers so lol

Yeah well I'm pretty sure your a wolf so like... cool ig

you were also sure santy was a wolf

[MacDougall]

Lynch Belzy, shoot Nanook, since Nanook is very likely to be the 3p, I dont want him in this game anymore
Lily optimally used a slank vig shot (if which i didn't know they claimed, if they hey claimed earlier, lol @ me if that has always been claimed in the thread), blaming them for the lynch that happened is silly
but at the same time, im tired of this, "I am so townie, mindset"

If mac shoots me hes just outed lol

Nah if I shoot you my alignment doesn't suddenly change.

My point is townMac doesn't shoot me here and scumMac might

townMac might

TownMac doesn't usually throw

I already shot one town. Is shooting another really that surprising?

Anyway where's my vig POE.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Mac lily milium or something stupid

Book it

I wanna be wrong one more time before I'm wrongly miskilled tonight lol

i am pretty sure mac and millium are villagers so lol

Yeah well I'm pretty sure your a wolf so like... cool ig

you were also sure santy was a wolf

Oh Good one.

[MacDougall]

Mac lily milium or something stupid

Book it

I wanna be wrong one more time before I'm wrongly miskilled tonight lol

i am pretty sure mac and millium are villagers so lol

Yeah well I'm pretty sure your a wolf so like... cool ig

you were also sure santy was a wolf

As was Alison
And Cham was sure Alison was a wolf
And so was Santy

being wrong in this game is a townslip

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Lynch Belzy, shoot Nanook, since Nanook is very likely to be the 3p, I dont want him in this game anymore
Lily optimally used a slank vig shot (if which i didn't know they claimed, if they hey claimed earlier, lol @ me if that has always been claimed in the thread), blaming them for the lynch that happened is silly
but at the same time, im tired of this, "I am so townie, mindset"

If mac shoots me hes just outed lol

Nah if I shoot you my alignment doesn't suddenly change.

My point is townMac doesn't shoot me here and scumMac might

townMac might

TownMac doesn't usually throw

I already shot one town. Is shooting another really that surprising?

Anyway where's my vig POE.

Shoot a slanker

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I stg if the team is like Porscha Belzy Nook Rondo I'm rage quitting mafia lol

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Cause like we had all of them at different points and just went nah let's kill each other instead

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Mac lily milium or something stupid

Book it

I wanna be wrong one more time before I'm wrongly miskilled tonight lol

i am pretty sure mac and millium are villagers so lol

Yeah well I'm pretty sure your a wolf so like... cool ig

you were also sure santy was a wolf

Oh Good one.

Remind me again which Scum you've voted for?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Lynch Belzy, shoot Nanook, since Nanook is very likely to be the 3p, I dont want him in this game anymore
Lily optimally used a slank vig shot (if which i didn't know they claimed, if they hey claimed earlier, lol @ me if that has always been claimed in the thread), blaming them for the lynch that happened is silly
but at the same time, im tired of this, "I am so townie, mindset"

If mac shoots me hes just outed lol

Nah if I shoot you my alignment doesn't suddenly change.

My point is townMac doesn't shoot me here and scumMac might

townMac might

TownMac doesn't usually throw

I already shot one town. Is shooting another really that surprising?

Anyway where's my vig POE.

When its me specifically, yeah would be surprising lol

I already responded that my vig poe is probably just millium, tbh, and maybe dya if j had to add a second name. I also said to probably rely more on people reading the game closer/that have a better grasp on it

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Rondo is also an ok shot

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Mac lily if your both town and I'm town than Aro wagon is literally pure except Dya...I know I'm town I have no clue what you are and at this point I kinda have to be paranoid because town is getting shot stomped.

Maybe it's just dya lol

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Rondo is also an ok shot

Not me?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Why?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Rondo is also an ok shot

Not me?

I talked about it before but I thought your stuff around claims and santy was fairly townie, and I thought how you handled cham's self vote mightve been too

I'm not, like, confident enough to defend you given my inability to read you recently, but I dont really feel a pressing desire to resolve your slot rn either

[MacDougall]

Mac lily if your both town and I'm town than Aro wagon is literally pure except Dya...I know I'm town I have no clue what you are and at this point I kinda have to be paranoid because town is getting shot stomped.

Maybe it's just dya lol

Reiterate your tracker claim and what the information you have says about n1.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I'm going to sleep, will read tags and/or quotes tomorrow

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Mac lily if your both town and I'm town than Aro wagon is literally pure except Dya...I know I'm town I have no clue what you are and at this point I kinda have to be paranoid because town is getting shot stomped.

Maybe it's just dya lol

Reiterate your tracker claim and what the information you have says about n1.

I'm a 1 shot tracker with a 2nd ability that gives me double vote if conditions are met.

I think I should have 2 votes today.

I thought Santy was woof because he claimed my role but like way better... apparently no he just had my exact role without restrictions lol

Anyways my tracker is like I dunno the official term for it but I can go back to a previous night and track that night

So n2 I tracked Mac n1 but I meant to track Belzy n1 but I am a dumb stupid idiot who fucked up not like it matters anyways because if I'm RBed either the day I do the track or the day I go back to I return no results so I learned nothing

And because I fucked up every part of my role and I was decidedly annoyed about it and I thought Santy was lying I decided to fake a red instead

And before you ask why Belzy? I've had a tin foil since forever that Belzy and you aren't even in a neighborhood and that you are W/W but it's a tin foil and not something I truly ever want to push without info so I decided to mech clear you but I'm stupid

[Lilypetal]

Mac lily milium or something stupid

Book it

I wanna be wrong one more time before I'm wrongly miskilled tonight lol

i am pretty sure mac and millium are villagers so lol

Yeah well I'm pretty sure your a wolf so like... cool ig

you were also sure santy was a wolf

Oh Good one.

Remind me again which Scum you've voted for?

probably belzy

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Weird me to

[ilario]

Why don’t u think it’s him?

He has been just... really believably townie. Have felt a lot better about him than you and dya throughout the game.

You need to remember that you got all weh at me for being wrong on Alison but now that Santy has flipped my entire reason for sussing her is proven valid. You were defending her when she was strictly being antitown.

The reason I bring this up is because I still trust my own personal reads and Santy flipping town helps a lot. I think Ender has just been towny like all game. Towny, solvy and productive.

In what way does santys flip help?

Because my suspicion on Alison was predicated in the notion that she was badly pushing a townie in a scummy way. She was. Ergo you defending her and me suspecting her mean different things now.

I'm bout to nap so gl.

But how does that impact the current state of the slots alive?

[MacDougall]

Mac lily if your both town and I'm town than Aro wagon is literally pure except Dya...I know I'm town I have no clue what you are and at this point I kinda have to be paranoid because town is getting shot stomped.

Maybe it's just dya lol

Reiterate your tracker claim and what the information you have says about n1.

I'm a 1 shot tracker with a 2nd ability that gives me double vote if conditions are met.

I think I should have 2 votes today.

I thought Santy was woof because he claimed my role but like way better... apparently no he just had my exact role without restrictions lol

Anyways my tracker is like I dunno the official term for it but I can go back to a previous night and track that night

So n2 I tracked Mac n1 but I meant to track Belzy n1 but I am a dumb stupid idiot who fucked up not like it matters anyways because if I'm RBed either the day I do the track or the day I go back to I return no results so I learned nothing

And because I fucked up every part of my role and I was decidedly annoyed about it and I thought Santy was lying I decided to fake a red instead

And before you ask why Belzy? I've had a tin foil since forever that Belzy and you aren't even in a neighborhood and that you are W/W but it's a tin foil and not something I truly ever want to push without info so I decided to mech clear you but I'm stupid

You meant watcher? Didn't you get a result of Porscha targeted Mac?

[MacDougall]

Why don’t u think it’s him?

He has been just... really believably townie. Have felt a lot better about him than you and dya throughout the game.

You need to remember that you got all weh at me for being wrong on Alison but now that Santy has flipped my entire reason for sussing her is proven valid. You were defending her when she was strictly being antitown.

The reason I bring this up is because I still trust my own personal reads and Santy flipping town helps a lot. I think Ender has just been towny like all game. Towny, solvy and productive.

In what way does santys flip help?

Because my suspicion on Alison was predicated in the notion that she was badly pushing a townie in a scummy way. She was. Ergo you defending her and me suspecting her mean different things now.

I'm bout to nap so gl.

But how does that impact the current state of the slots alive?

It doesn't. That's not what I said. It impacts my own confidence.

[ilario]

Do my eyes deceive me or is nobody missing from the poll?

i rbd ender last night

hence why i think hes the vote blocker

i lied when i said i was 2 shot so wolves dont worry about me

I did think I was blocked last night because Nanook should be speaking like an animu girl today if I wasn't.

so you mean just like regular nook then

@RondoDimBuckle can u ping me when ur here

[ilario]

Why don’t u think it’s him?

He has been just... really believably townie. Have felt a lot better about him than you and dya throughout the game.

You need to remember that you got all weh at me for being wrong on Alison but now that Santy has flipped my entire reason for sussing her is proven valid. You were defending her when she was strictly being antitown.

The reason I bring this up is because I still trust my own personal reads and Santy flipping town helps a lot. I think Ender has just been towny like all game. Towny, solvy and productive.

In what way does santys flip help?

Because my suspicion on Alison was predicated in the notion that she was badly pushing a townie in a scummy way. She was. Ergo you defending her and me suspecting her mean different things now.

I'm bout to nap so gl.

But how does that impact the current state of the slots alive?

It doesn't. That's not what I said. It impacts my own confidence.

ah gotcha

[EnderWiggin]

Alright I'm going to actually sit down for the next 3 hours and work out what the fuck is going on and if I actually SUS ilario or are just omgusing them.

[EnderWiggin]

Actually I could 100% get behind Neon as a wolf. I was thinking about it last night.

lol so ur wolfreads are belzy/neon but u think im a wolf

Eh tbh I'm not sure.

I just hate your start of day and it feels like a wolf who has built townreads trying to leverage it for a game-winning play. Including the assumption that this is lylo because you know there's a 2nd kill if wolves get this wagon off.

except im actively wary of my townread rn pushing only belzy and ignoring you. so that argument is already debunked.

"Built Townreads" = made people townread you and got thread presence/control to take over the day.

who have i made townread me other than dya?

I am not arguing against you on this. You build town control just by being yourself no matter your alignment. And you directly engaged me/Mac yesterday as well as others.

[EnderWiggin]

belzy could be a 3p tbh with their level of involvement in the game

im just struggling to see them caring about winning here

Why?

They've stated very strongly that the volume overwhelms them. I'm more inclined to believe that and sort out their alignment from what we do have.

[EnderWiggin]

Dya
Millium
Rondo

Can this be the mafia team?

If I squint?

I admit I have been townreading Rondo.

[ilario]

id argue i have had close to zero thread control this game lmao, in fact i have had the opposite of thread control. i out a read and people think its tmi and just do the opposite

[ilario]

i suppose i had thread control on d3 near eod, but that was the only day i know for sure i wolfsided. d1 and d2 i townsided hard and had no thread control. not sure what to make of that

[EnderWiggin]

I'm not getting stuck on "Do I have thread control" because that's a pointless argument when I need to solve the game.

[ilario]

well i dont for sure know, but im kinda just taking millium as town atp

[EnderWiggin]

i feel like wolves getting a tied v/w wagons at eod isn't what I'd expect out of how disorganized town is this game.

Why not?

Maybe wolves were bussing Millium and didn't expect the Chamo wagon to show up like it did? maybe wolves weren't expecting me and Mac to swap back and forth like fish on land?

I feel like this is a bad assumption or pushing a narrative and idk which.

[EnderWiggin]

mac if u think belzy is town then what do u make of ender coming into today thinking belzy is scum out of nowhere. his last read on belzy the previous day phase was a townread im pretty sure.

(this looks like a question but its moreso a prod to state that enders reads flip based on what llooks like oppurtunism to me)

Belzy has played in a semi-scum manner for them. Idk if you were paying attention but I was clearly trying to do a re-eval at EOD yesterday.

[EnderWiggin]

I'm ngl if Mac is wolf they have snowed me harder than they have managed ever before.

[EnderWiggin]

Because they're pointing out inconsistencies I'm thinking of rn too.

[EnderWiggin]

@Lilypetal say the word and I will make the most based reads list

do it

do you want it color coded

yes

great then I will make this very easy to read

Neon
Lilypetal
Belzy
Rondo
Santy
Ender

Ilario
Millium
Chamo

Allison
MacDougall
Nanook
Seanzie
Tilg
Dya

There's 100% one in the middle tier, knowing Porscha. At least one in the top tier.

Then the last one is just a wildcard depending on how Porscha was trying to spew them.

[EnderWiggin]

Reading Porscha's iso I can definitely see Ilario's solve being exactly correct.

I would be surprised if there were 0 wolves in Porscha's red list though.

But Ender, Belzy and Neon do all look the most partery.

... How am I the most partner lmao.

[EnderWiggin]

I reckon Lily is hard townsiding 3p dawg.

I'm actually coming around to her being wolf tbh.

[EnderWiggin]

i could see ender being a wolf but I dont think he's mechanically outed?

ya hes not mech outed
i think hes just ender outed
also the mech doesnt look in his favour

"Ender outed" lol

[EnderWiggin]

Reading Porscha's iso I can definitely see Ilario's solve being exactly correct.

I would be surprised if there were 0 wolves in Porscha's red list though.

But Ender, Belzy and Neon do all look the most partery.

oh gosh is this happening

LOL i just started to doubt belzy though because u said they felt towny in hood

ftr look at how ender mentions neon in his iso, he kinda spews her deepwolf at times. ill bring up receipts later but he always refers to her as someone that could be snowing him/needs to be looked into but never does. its hard to describe but feels like how a partner talks about somehow they know is deep

Really now.

Compare it to my treatment of Koba.

You can't simultaneously think I'm a good player AND this bad.

[EnderWiggin]

Koba in G1 of Champs that is.

[EnderWiggin]

I think Ender is probably town and we are looking at a situation where the mafia are in Belzy, Rondo, Nanook and we've just been screaming at each other while the mafia have been basically pissfarting around and getting away with it.

Ender has felt insanely townie to me all game. If he's mafia he's a much better mafia player than I realised.

Neon can be mafia but again, if so, their range is incredible.

Ouch.

[EnderWiggin]

Reading Porscha's iso I can definitely see Ilario's solve being exactly correct.

I would be surprised if there were 0 wolves in Porscha's red list though.

But Ender, Belzy and Neon do all look the most partery.

oh gosh is this happening

LOL i just started to doubt belzy though because u said they felt towny in hood

ftr look at how ender mentions neon in his iso, he kinda spews her deepwolf at times. ill bring up receipts later but he always refers to her as someone that could be snowing him/needs to be looked into but never does. its hard to describe but feels like how a partner talks about somehow they know is deep

Naw townie in hood scummy in thread is >rand mafia ime, particularly when Mac is the person they're in a hood with

I actually agree with this kinda. It's easier to snow a strong town in 1v1 compared to thread.

[EnderWiggin]

I think Ender is probably town and we are looking at a situation where the mafia are in Belzy, Rondo, Nanook and we've just been screaming at each other while the mafia have been basically pissfarting around and getting away with it.

Ender has felt insanely townie to me all game. If he's mafia he's a much better mafia player than I realised.

Neon can be mafia but again, if so, their range is incredible.

I consider blade one of the strongest scum I've played with, at his peak

<3

[EnderWiggin]

Please shoot ender tonight, I might be wrong on neon but I really don’t see myself being wrong on ender. If I’m wrong on ender I’ll take the blame for this entire game and the loss is totally on me. This is a free get of jail card for every other villager.

1. That doesn't save the fact that I'm trying to solve the game.

2. Lmao what if you're a wolf.

3. Last time you said something about out of game about me and called me a wolf you were wrong and I technically have the right to ask you to call me "Woke blade" =P

[ilario]

Reading Porscha's iso I can definitely see Ilario's solve being exactly correct.

I would be surprised if there were 0 wolves in Porscha's red list though.

But Ender, Belzy and Neon do all look the most partery.

oh gosh is this happening

LOL i just started to doubt belzy though because u said they felt towny in hood

ftr look at how ender mentions neon in his iso, he kinda spews her deepwolf at times. ill bring up receipts later but he always refers to her as someone that could be snowing him/needs to be looked into but never does. its hard to describe but feels like how a partner talks about somehow they know is deep

Really now.

Compare it to my treatment of Koba.

You can't simultaneously think I'm a good player AND this bad.

wdym treatment of koba?

also being good doesnt mean you cant have off games or be wrong. why do they have to be mutually exclusive in your eyes? theres alota good players who have been wrong this game iiregardless of what the wolf team ends up being

[ilario]

can you sell me your thoughts on dya now? u tried to push them on d3

[EnderWiggin]

Reading Porscha's iso I can definitely see Ilario's solve being exactly correct.

I would be surprised if there were 0 wolves in Porscha's red list though.

But Ender, Belzy and Neon do all look the most partery.

oh gosh is this happening

LOL i just started to doubt belzy though because u said they felt towny in hood

ftr look at how ender mentions neon in his iso, he kinda spews her deepwolf at times. ill bring up receipts later but he always refers to her as someone that could be snowing him/needs to be looked into but never does. its hard to describe but feels like how a partner talks about somehow they know is deep

Really now.

Compare it to my treatment of Koba.

You can't simultaneously think I'm a good player AND this bad.

wdym treatment of koba?

also being good doesnt mean you cant have off games or be wrong. why do they have to be mutually exclusive in your eyes? theres alota good players who have been wrong this game iiregardless of what the wolf team ends up being

Making a deep wolf obvious by commenting on being snowed by them is not in my wolf range IMO. I felt mildly insulted by the suggestion.

Koba was a deep wolf in another game and I treated them much better than you're suggesting.

[EnderWiggin]

can you sell me your thoughts on dya now? u tried to push them on d3

Still doing reading.

I will probably/hopefully/maybe. I'm checking myself first.

(Doing a quick reread of the game on some things to check in case I'm being stupid BEFORE I post my things.)