Anniversary Game 4 - Staff vs AtE D4

HOW COULD YOU SAY THAT TO ME IM LITERALLY CRYING RN

Poll ended at Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:00 pm

Dyslexicon
0
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lucy
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Spacedaisy
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Violet
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Sleep
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No vote
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Re: Anniversary Game 4 - Staff vs AtE D2

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actually it's 6v2, I'm going for tsp, not enough town alive to sheep
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Re: Anniversary Game 4 - Staff vs AtE D2

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Dolby Interaction Perspective

Boquise
- sole engagement with Dolby is asking him to scrutinize himself
- places him second bottom for no direction in posts

Interaction bit on the polite, low-pressure side and final read backed up by less detailed reasoning than expected for a sus color.


Dyslexicon
- banter about Dolby being mafia
- enhance of Dolby’s wordscan of lucy’s meta ask (missing the mafia question)
- hopeful that Dolby will prove frequent-poster
- would have nominated Dolby in the vig shot fake scenario
- further interacts with Dolby on kill option
- reveals vig shot bluff soon after Dolby response
- open to Dolby’s sus placed on me
- temp vote on Dolby
- wolfcores Martin and Dolby
- wolfteams Dolby with Martin and Violet

Worth a grainsalt on both the open statement about hoping Dolby will be active and the readiness to follow what Dolby concocted as his D1 cases, but every bit of pushing Dolby into attention and contention (from vig shoot, regardless if bluff, to wagon) feels too risky to ignite from teammate perspective.


Epignosis
- shrug response to Dolby light questioning him
- D2 returning with a softvote on Dolby for his D1 sketchy townread on him

Null. Or ever so town-lean, as in a gut tell that Epignosis is just playing his own route and didn't bother to cover tracks and act blind on teammates' inactivity.

(This was written last night, before the vig shoot happening).


Lucy
- meta ask and ask about poststyle; Dolby replies in detail
- banter to TSP suggesting a vig shot on Dolby
- then adds Dolby on the vig shot nomination list
- awaits for Dolby to contribute more (or expresses belief in him doing that)
- asks Dolby for EOD reads

To note that, whilst not that uncooperative early on, Dolby put on his best reply form to lucy's ask. Sensing a sort of go-with-the-flow once Dolby was on people's minds about a potential vig flip. Vibe is that it is not out of reason for much of this interaction to be nudges towards.

Spacedaisy
- nothing

TSP
- nominates Dolby for vig shot (for motivation to play)
- D2 claims Dolby should have been dead
- Right off tell Jack to “blast dolby”

Struggling to comprehend the wolf angle on casting Dolby in the eye of every (bluffed / real) mechanic-related danger. Plus the night 1 claim, which is extra twisted WIFOM to build.

Violet
- nothing


TSP
Epignosis
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Spacedaisy
Violet
Boquise
lucy

Not sold on this interaction angle by any means, but this is the best I can read into it atm.
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Re: Anniversary Game 4 - Staff vs AtE D2

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shit analysis
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Re: Anniversary Game 4 - Staff vs AtE D2

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me and boq are town, tsp isn't cleared at all
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Re: Anniversary Game 4 - Staff vs AtE D2

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lucy wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:53 am what's your read on me @Ricochet
Don't have time to make a case on you right now.

If compelled with just 30 seconds to realtime, I would say I don't trust you, but couldn't make a convinced statement.

From the Dolby profiling, I would say there are high odds at least one of his mafia teammates either: a) minded their own line of work and never interacted or b) interacted well with him and/or nudged him to put on a good show. You would be in the second camp.

Least odds in my mind would be a hardbuss, in the style TSP did, which is why I am now confused why you are voting him or how do you see him wolf out of this.
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Re: Anniversary Game 4 - Staff vs AtE D2

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lucy wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:06 amshit analysis
Sad face.
lucy wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:07 am me and boq are town, tsp isn't cleared at all
why
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Re: Anniversary Game 4 - Staff vs AtE D1

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Ricochet wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:54 pm Don’t seem to manage much at all today.
Boquise wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:19 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:20 am Might recommend blowing up Dolby to motivate him to play
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:56 pm don't know about dolby but idk it's dolby he hsould already be dead
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:57 am blast dolby rn
Maybe I am just too nervous about bussing. I am not convinced by this.
Why?

I judge the scenario as unlikely since mafia enjoyed a cycle with three town victims.

How does the second quote in particular read wolf towards wolf?
to me it looked like Tony and Dolby were forcing an interaction so that they wouldn't look like partners. Neither of them actually says anything about the other in their posts.
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Re: Anniversary Game 4 - Staff vs AtE D2

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Spacedaisy wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 7:30 pm
Boquise wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:19 am
Epignosis wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 12:55 am Day 1 Mafia in a vacuum is Spacedaisy, Dyslexicon, and Ricochet.
Agree.
Boquise wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:33 pm Overall rainbow. Tiers are ranked.

Epi

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Lucy

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Moonwink
Violet

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TonystarkPrime
@Boquise Can you explain what the story is here? Because I literally didn't speak at all between those two posts so I didn't do anything to change your mind.
Agree.
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Re: Anniversary Game 4 - Staff vs AtE D2

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Ricochet wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:11 am
lucy wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:53 am what's your read on me @Ricochet
Don't have time to make a case on you right now.

If compelled with just 30 seconds to realtime, I would say I don't trust you, but couldn't make a convinced statement.

From the Dolby profiling, I would say there are high odds at least one of his mafia teammates either: a) minded their own line of work and never interacted or b) interacted well with him and/or nudged him to put on a good show. You would be in the second camp.

Least odds in my mind would be a hardbuss, in the style TSP did, which is why I am now confused why you are voting him or how do you see him wolf out of this.
of course the least odds would be that he was hard bussed, there was no vote lmfao, you need a Lynch to bus and there was no Lynch here

trust lmao

okay, give me one other example of a partner interacting with dolby, you just listed the opposite ends of the spectrum placing me at one end, there's literally no interaction that escapes the spectrum, and you're arbitrarily saying mafia would be least likely to buss. is it not true he was low posting, and got heavily suspected yesterday, why would mafia not stand to benefit from a buss eg to kill a low posting member of mafia and gain credit?
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Re: Anniversary Game 4 - Staff vs AtE D2

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Epignosis wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 11:17 pm
Boquise wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:38 pm
Epignosis wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:33 pm Well shit. That was fast.

[VOTE: Dolby] aubergine
Epignosis wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:41 pm Nah, I rescind that vote. I think I'm misreading Dolby something fierce. [VOTE: Unvote] aubergine
I can easily see a town motivation behind all of this, for what it's worth. From the same school as Epignosis, for the Syndicate folks in the crowd.
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Re: Anniversary Game 4 - Staff vs AtE D2

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Ricochet wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:12 am
lucy wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:06 amshit analysis
Sad face.
lucy wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:07 am me and boq are town, tsp isn't cleared at all
why
boq wrote about how tsp isn't cleared, I just explained why mafia would be inclined or at least not not inclined to bus

boq town because he's polarized and he's un agenda'ed
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Re: Anniversary Game 4 - Staff vs AtE D2

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Boquise wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:17 am
Spacedaisy wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 7:30 pm
Boquise wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:19 am
Epignosis wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 12:55 am Day 1 Mafia in a vacuum is Spacedaisy, Dyslexicon, and Ricochet.
Agree.
Boquise wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:33 pm Overall rainbow. Tiers are ranked.

Epi

Spacedaisy
Lucy

Dizzy
Moonwink
Violet

Boquise
Ricochet
TonystarkPrime
@Boquise Can you explain what the story is here? Because I literally didn't speak at all between those two posts so I didn't do anything to change your mind.
Agree.
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Re: Anniversary Game 4 - Staff vs AtE D1

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Boquise wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:12 am
Ricochet wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:54 pm Don’t seem to manage much at all today.
Boquise wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:19 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:20 am Might recommend blowing up Dolby to motivate him to play
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:56 pm don't know about dolby but idk it's dolby he hsould already be dead
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:57 am blast dolby rn
Maybe I am just too nervous about bussing. I am not convinced by this.
Why?

I judge the scenario as unlikely since mafia enjoyed a cycle with three town victims.

How does the second quote in particular read wolf towards wolf?
to me it looked like Tony and Dolby were forcing an interaction so that they wouldn't look like partners. Neither of them actually says anything about the other in their posts.
Yes, but as far as the vig shot goes, TSP confirmed Dolby blast in an instant.

Don’t get any advantageous sense for wolves out of that save for extreme supatowning facade.
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Re: Anniversary Game 4 - Staff vs AtE D2

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lucy wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:20 am
Ricochet wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:12 am
lucy wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:06 amshit analysis
Sad face.
lucy wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:07 am me and boq are town, tsp isn't cleared at all
why
boq wrote about how tsp isn't cleared, I just explained why mafia would be inclined or at least not not inclined to bus

boq town because he's polarized and he's un agenda'ed
Boq is suspicious on both behavior and game state.
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Re: Anniversary Game 4 - Staff vs AtE D2

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lucy wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:19 am
Ricochet wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:11 am
lucy wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:53 am what's your read on me @Ricochet
Don't have time to make a case on you right now.

If compelled with just 30 seconds to realtime, I would say I don't trust you, but couldn't make a convinced statement.

From the Dolby profiling, I would say there are high odds at least one of his mafia teammates either: a) minded their own line of work and never interacted or b) interacted well with him and/or nudged him to put on a good show. You would be in the second camp.

Least odds in my mind would be a hardbuss, in the style TSP did, which is why I am now confused why you are voting him or how do you see him wolf out of this.
of course the least odds would be that he was hard bussed, there was no vote lmfao, you need a Lynch to bus and there was no Lynch here

trust lmao

okay, give me one other example of a partner interacting with dolby, you just listed the opposite ends of the spectrum placing me at one end, there's literally no interaction that escapes the spectrum, and you're arbitrarily saying mafia would be least likely to buss. is it not true he was low posting, and got heavily suspected yesterday, why would mafia not stand to benefit from a buss eg to kill a low posting member of mafia and gain credit?
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Re: Anniversary Game 4 - Staff vs AtE D2

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Boquise wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:22 am
lucy wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:20 am
Ricochet wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:12 am
lucy wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:06 amshit analysis
Sad face.
lucy wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:07 am me and boq are town, tsp isn't cleared at all
why
boq wrote about how tsp isn't cleared, I just explained why mafia would be inclined or at least not not inclined to bus

boq town because he's polarized and he's un agenda'ed
Boq is suspicious on both behavior and game state.
I am always contrarian and I'm always right, do me a favor and convincingly case tsp
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Re: Anniversary Game 4 - Staff vs AtE D2

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lucy wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:19 am
Ricochet wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:11 am
lucy wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:53 am what's your read on me @Ricochet
Don't have time to make a case on you right now.

If compelled with just 30 seconds to realtime, I would say I don't trust you, but couldn't make a convinced statement.

From the Dolby profiling, I would say there are high odds at least one of his mafia teammates either: a) minded their own line of work and never interacted or b) interacted well with him and/or nudged him to put on a good show. You would be in the second camp.

Least odds in my mind would be a hardbuss, in the style TSP did, which is why I am now confused why you are voting him or how do you see him wolf out of this.
of course the least odds would be that he was hard bussed, there was no vote lmfao, you need a Lynch to bus and there was no Lynch here

trust lmao

okay, give me one other example of a partner interacting with dolby, you just listed the opposite ends of the spectrum placing me at one end, there's literally no interaction that escapes the spectrum, and you're arbitrarily saying mafia would be least likely to buss. is it not true he was low posting, and got heavily suspected yesterday, why would mafia not stand to benefit from a buss eg to kill a low posting member of mafia and gain credit?
we're using different meaning for (throwing under a) bus, for me the vig shoot moment also consitutes a throw under. any sacrificial stance on a teammate, if you will.

I just broke down all the interactions with Dolby. "Heavily suspected" is not a reality out of that. 3 vote wagon at one point, but can hardly track if any of it seemed to stick.
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Re: Anniversary Game 4 - Staff vs AtE D1

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Ricochet wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:21 am
Boquise wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:12 am
Ricochet wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:54 pm Don’t seem to manage much at all today.
Boquise wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:19 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:20 am Might recommend blowing up Dolby to motivate him to play
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:56 pm don't know about dolby but idk it's dolby he hsould already be dead
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:57 am blast dolby rn
Maybe I am just too nervous about bussing. I am not convinced by this.
Why?

I judge the scenario as unlikely since mafia enjoyed a cycle with three town victims.

How does the second quote in particular read wolf towards wolf?
to me it looked like Tony and Dolby were forcing an interaction so that they wouldn't look like partners. Neither of them actually says anything about the other in their posts.
Yes, but as far as the vig shot goes, TSP confirmed Dolby blast in an instant.

Don’t get any advantageous sense for wolves out of that save for extreme supatowning facade.
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Re: Anniversary Game 4 - Staff vs AtE D2

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lucy wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:24 am
Boquise wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:22 am
lucy wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:20 am
Ricochet wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:12 am
lucy wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:06 amshit analysis
Sad face.
lucy wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:07 am me and boq are town, tsp isn't cleared at all
why
boq wrote about how tsp isn't cleared, I just explained why mafia would be inclined or at least not not inclined to bus

boq town because he's polarized and he's un agenda'ed
Boq is suspicious on both behavior and game state.
I am always contrarian and I'm always right, do me a favor and convincingly case tsp
I'll get back to that later.
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Re: Anniversary Game 4 - Staff vs AtE D2

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Ricochet wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:24 am we're using different meaning for (throwing under a) bus, for me the vig shoot moment also consitutes a throw under. any sacrificial stance on a teammate, if you will.

I just broke down all the interactions with Dolby. "Heavily suspected" is not a reality out of that. 3 vote wagon at one point, but can hardly track if any of it seemed to stick
I love ritual human sacrifice, also that's a good point, I have to reread
3 votes is objectively heavily suspected, is it not?
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Re: Anniversary Game 4 - Staff vs AtE D2

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lucy wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:32 am
Ricochet wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:24 am we're using different meaning for (throwing under a) bus, for me the vig shoot moment also consitutes a throw under. any sacrificial stance on a teammate, if you will.

I just broke down all the interactions with Dolby. "Heavily suspected" is not a reality out of that. 3 vote wagon at one point, but can hardly track if any of it seemed to stick
I love ritual human sacrifice, also that's a good point, I have to reread
3 votes is objectively heavily suspected, is it not?
This shouldn’t be ultra semantic.

3 votes is objectively lynch danger zone, yes, however town Martin snap voted him, Dizzy snap voted him with extra hip wiggles and I can’t evem trace the third one on mobile haha.

Hence not that “heavy” of a heat put on him.
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Re: Anniversary Game 4 - Staff vs AtE D2

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Ricochet wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:41 am
lucy wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:32 am
Ricochet wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:24 am we're using different meaning for (throwing under a) bus, for me the vig shoot moment also consitutes a throw under. any sacrificial stance on a teammate, if you will.

I just broke down all the interactions with Dolby. "Heavily suspected" is not a reality out of that. 3 vote wagon at one point, but can hardly track if any of it seemed to stick
I love ritual human sacrifice, also that's a good point, I have to reread
3 votes is objectively heavily suspected, is it not?
This shouldn’t be ultra semantic.

3 votes is objectively lynch danger zone, yes, however town Martin snap voted him, Dizzy snap voted him with extra hip wiggles and I can’t evem trace the third one on mobile haha.

Hence not that “heavy” of a heat put on him.
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Re: Anniversary Game 4 - Staff vs AtE D2

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lucy wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:07 am me and boq are town, tsp isn't cleared at all
Tell me why Boq is town?
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lucy wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:20 am
Ricochet wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:12 am
lucy wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:06 amshit analysis
Sad face.
lucy wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:07 am me and boq are town, tsp isn't cleared at all
why
boq wrote about how tsp isn't cleared, I just explained why mafia would be inclined or at least not not inclined to bus

boq town because he's polarized and he's un agenda'ed
NM, just saw this
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I am wondering if Boq has some kind of posting limitation right now. I'm going to move to [VOTE: TonyStarkPrime] aubergine for the moment.
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Re: Anniversary Game 4 - Staff vs AtE D2

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Boquise wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:20 am
Boquise wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:17 am
Spacedaisy wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 7:30 pm
Boquise wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:19 am
Epignosis wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 12:55 am Day 1 Mafia in a vacuum is Spacedaisy, Dyslexicon, and Ricochet.
Agree.
Boquise wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:33 pm Overall rainbow. Tiers are ranked.

Epi

Spacedaisy
Lucy

Dizzy
Moonwink
Violet

Boquise
Ricochet
TonystarkPrime
@Boquise Can you explain what the story is here? Because I literally didn't speak at all between those two posts so I didn't do anything to change your mind.
Agree.
You were saying then that at the time you said agree as in you agreed with two of the three? But still Dizzy is listed in your green reads too. I don't understand.
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Let’s start with Stating the Obvious

Lucy’s EOD1 wagon was all town
Dolby was on the mislynch, no case, little to no interaction of value with Triple. actually the last voter on the wagon (#491), adds a snickering this is fine (#508), sealed it

Now let’s try to Occam the TripleWagon

If another wolf jumped on the wagon

Daisy – very early ping-vote on TripleHaven, stated returning to the case, never did due to RL.

 Could have a been an early plant, of course, but given timing and inactivity there is no strategy to crack.

Dizzy – takes a voyage from leaning town (#102), drops it based on Daisy’s ping (#152), switches to Lucy, then hesitates and reads lucy’s own vote on Triple well (and banter for not being voted by her) (#274), back on TH, though stating it’s directionless, jumps on Tony, jumps on me, jumps on Triple, reads Triple wolf-wolf with me (banter or otherwise), keeps vote with same hesitation, jumps on Dolby, jumps back, jumps Ruri, jumps back on Triple, reads town and doesn’t even move off Triple at the last minute

 Dizzy’s EOD is so all over the place, I’m inclined to almost put it down to complete theatrics in order for wolf Dizzy to be this anxious and conscious of wagoning and lynching Triple on such weak case-making. Would have had sure opportunity to pile up either on a mislynch of me (with stronger in-game reasoning) or a wolfbus of Dolby (once votes started heating on him). Inclined to consider this a town (or indy) sprawl.

lucy – unless I missed more stuff prior (searching “TH” is impossible, rember), ping-votes Triple in same sentence in which opposes Dizzy wagon (#265); then when Dizzy votes, considers it baiting (#279), goes back on very early Triple post to mark it weird / subjective (#410), then hesitates with the read (#412), admits it was weaksauce (#416), but is from then on stuck in self-pres scenario

 Out of all three, probably weakest sauce to ever wagon TripleHaven, up until self-pres became a given. #279 probably the worst looking post – why ping-vote and then shading another ping-voter?

Dizzy > Daisy > lucy

If wolves stayed off both wagons

Boquise (vote on me) – enough sus to vote/wagon me, read lucy town, leaned town on TH even with reservations

TSP (vote on Moonwink? Official VC doesn’t count) – had some tiny posts on perhaps voting Triple, never acted upon, nominated Dolby for a vig shot

Violet (no vote) – incommunicado

I got nothing, I don’t get TSP being wolf from Dolby situation, so it’s down to pure chance if the other two constitute the entire wolf pool left.

Stretch to a maybe that wolf Boq might have been safe to pedal my wagon and not touch anything. No effort (or backed up reasoning) to save lucy, if she were wolf on the lynch block.
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clarification of post above: Dizzy > Daisy > lucy in terms of townleaning
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[VOTE: lucy] aubergine
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Spacedaisy wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 7:32 pm I find it hard to believe Boq and Epi would be teammates with the level and kind of interaction between them. I feel like if there is wolf there, it's probably only one of the two.
I had the same thought. Daisy is my new Martin.
lucy wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 7:43 pm gamestate feels good tbh, I don't think I'm misreading boq or epi, I'll make a readslist later but those r my locktown
A bunch of town are dead. It doesn't feel good.
lucy wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:45 pm wait does an inherited role mean whoever killed phraze was town?
It me.

I killed Ruri, and yes, I'm town. Which means that there have been three town kills if Epi is town.

This game may very well be full of kills, as I can definitely see Nook enjoying that. My kills were conditional.

And I killed Ruri, cause I said fuck it and wanted to use my power, and my experience with her is that she generally has very low activity and would either be mafia or town who has an above average chance of being a mischop. But I did also say I expected them to flip town, while Violet (my other possible target) would then probably be mafia, with me choosing to shoot the other. Because that would be just lovely.
Epignosis wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 11:33 pm
Moonwink wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 8:15 pm
Moonwink wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 8:13 pm [VOTE: Epi] aubergine
I'm not voting for him for anything he has posted, I think -- it's more about the game state and how others are treating him right now.
How others are treating me right now? Really?

You’re literally throwing right now Moonwink. @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
I take it this was the statement that triggered your kill.
Is it part of your role or was the power given to you?
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Dyslexicon wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:57 pm

I suspect Violet a little if Rico is mafia, because he was quite resistant to target Violet with our action (we didn't know what it would do), while he didn't hesitate on Ruri or TSP. Meaningless if Rico is town, but maybe has meaning if he's mafia. I don't know.
What did he say?
He said that if we were to use the power on a low-poster, he would say Ruri. Because Violet was so out of orbit or something to that effect. While I didn't understand the distinction. Why was Violet more out of orbit than Ruri was? A paranoid brain might say something like what if he experiences Violet as more out of orbit because they are mafia together and Violet isn't having much of a presence in mafia chat. So that was a thought I had. In any case, I didn't want to target Ruri with our unknown ability, as I had my vig target on them.
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:57 am ok now that moonwink is dead my new lock-in is that daisy is a wolf (sorry daisy)
No. Why are your reads so bad?
lucy wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:37 am 3 town kill powers...
Careful there, Lucy. You aren't supposed to know that we are all town.

Didn't you just have a reaction to the Ruri kill that went like this "So it was a town vig? Oh wait, no, roles are independent of alignment." But now you're back at 3 town.

Slippery slopery slip.
Epignosis wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:37 am And now I have another power. I have Moonwinks' power. I'm like goddamn Megaman up in here.
That happened to me too. Well, I could choose. And I didn't want mafia to have my original role should they kill me, so I chose to change it.
lucy wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:20 am
Ricochet wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:12 am
lucy wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:06 amshit analysis
Sad face.
lucy wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:07 am me and boq are town, tsp isn't cleared at all
why
boq wrote about how tsp isn't cleared, I just explained why mafia would be inclined or at least not not inclined to bus

boq town because he's polarized and he's un agenda'ed
Boq being polarized is not the word on the street.
Ricochet wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:21 am
Boquise wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:12 am
Ricochet wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:54 pm Don’t seem to manage much at all today.
Boquise wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:19 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:20 am Might recommend blowing up Dolby to motivate him to play
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:56 pm don't know about dolby but idk it's dolby he hsould already be dead
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:57 am blast dolby rn
Maybe I am just too nervous about bussing. I am not convinced by this.
Why?

I judge the scenario as unlikely since mafia enjoyed a cycle with three town victims.

How does the second quote in particular read wolf towards wolf?
to me it looked like Tony and Dolby were forcing an interaction so that they wouldn't look like partners. Neither of them actually says anything about the other in their posts.
Yes, but as far as the vig shot goes, TSP confirmed Dolby blast in an instant.

Don’t get any advantageous sense for wolves out of that save for extreme supatowning facade.
Even if TSP himself pointed out and alluded to his penchant for bussing? Is that not relevant?
Spacedaisy wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 3:24 am
Boquise wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:20 am
Boquise wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:17 am
Spacedaisy wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 7:30 pm
Boquise wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:19 am
Epignosis wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 12:55 am Day 1 Mafia in a vacuum is Spacedaisy, Dyslexicon, and Ricochet.
Agree.
Boquise wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:33 pm Overall rainbow. Tiers are ranked.

Epi

Spacedaisy
Lucy

Dizzy
Moonwink
Violet

Boquise
Ricochet
TonystarkPrime
@Boquise Can you explain what the story is here? Because I literally didn't speak at all between those two posts so I didn't do anything to change your mind.
Agree.
You were saying then that at the time you said agree as in you agreed with two of the three? But still Dizzy is listed in your green reads too. I don't understand.
I think he says he agrees that it's confusing. I don't know. But it seems like something I would do as well.
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Anyway, I think Epi and Daisy are town.
Moon was my other town read, so I'm just going to spend this amount of space to be bitter about that shot.
Boq is close to ok, but that's a maybe.

All others, I'm unclear on.

I think the wolfiest thing TSP has done is the interaction with Dolby and how quickly he supported a shot there. I'm not sure on TSP otherwise.

I'm still good with my vote. I'm good with TSP, I guess.

I am wondering though @lucy Why TSP over Rico? Do you still hold to the idea that either me or Rico is mafia and it's probably Rico? What other ideas do you hold to. The more I see you post, the more you sink to the bottom of my list. Unfortunate, right?

Violet is still giving me basically nothing and I don't remember much of what he's said. That is on me though.
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Curious that nobody seems to commit to a read on me but also doesn't want to make a push on me. I don't know what that is about. Must be something in the water.
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If we mischop today, we're probably screwed.

I'm not going to be around, as I'm going to a dinner party and I'll probably be fairly drunk after a while.

If I return, I'll pop on by phone.

This is mafia's game to lose right now. No pressure.
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My guess right now is that mafia is among the following: Rico, Lucy, TSP and Violet.
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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 7:15 pm TripleHaven ( 4 ): Dolby, Spacedaisy, lucy, Dyslexicon
lucy ( 3 ): TripleHaven, MartinGG99, Epignosis
Dolby ( 1 ): Jackofhearts2005
Moonwink ( 1 ): Ricochet
Ricochet ( 1 ): Boquise
TonyStarkPrime ( 1 ): Moonwink
not voting ( 3 ): Ruri, Tonystarkprime, violet

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@TonyStarkPrime Your vote is bad and on a player who is never going to get chopped today.

Do you have a preference between the following: Lucy, Rico and Violet?
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Why should you be read town for inheriting Triple’s kill? Didn’t it go to a rand player from their wagon?
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On TSP alluding to bussing: he did?
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Spacedaisy wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:00 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:57 am ok now that moonwink is dead my new lock-in is that daisy is a wolf (sorry daisy)
Of course I am, because you're scrambling my man. I debated tossing my vote between you and Boq and decided on Boq. But you have to know you look hella bad for that reaction to Epi's move.

And why are you apologizing for a suspicion? This is mafia, it's kind of part of the game. But care to explain why moonwink dying and flipping town somehow locks me bad?
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Dyslexicon wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 11:57 am @TonyStarkPrime Your vote is bad and on a player who is never going to get chopped today.

Do you have a preference between the following: Lucy, Rico and Violet?
I’m going to read this as mech but I am pretty confident and not being mysterious on this one. Read daisy posts et
(Preference is not Rico)
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Wondering about Epi but he’s selling it well
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And I think he’s been spewed town by Daisy
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Ricochet wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:00 pm Why should you be read town for inheriting Triple’s kill? Didn’t it go to a rand player from their wagon?
I did not inherit Triple's kill. Did Triple have a kill? My role from the start was vig. I shot Ruri, is what I'm talking about.
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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:27 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 11:57 am @TonyStarkPrime Your vote is bad and on a player who is never going to get chopped today.

Do you have a preference between the following: Lucy, Rico and Violet?
I’m going to read this as mech but I am pretty confident and not being mysterious on this one. Read daisy posts et
(Preference is not Rico)
I have read Daisy's posts and she's my top town read rn.
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Dyslexicon wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:36 pm
Ricochet wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:00 pm Why should you be read town for inheriting Triple’s kill? Didn’t it go to a rand player from their wagon?
I did not inherit Triple's kill. Did Triple have a kill? My role from the start was vig. I shot Ruri, is what I'm talking about.
Oh, ok. I interpreted as claiming to have inherited Triple’s power.

Why did you only claim this at this stage of D2?

Why didn’t you vig Violet, lol?
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Wants to magic Epig.

Discusses with me low post choices.

Vigs my preferred low post choice.

Shades me for not going with the lowest post choice.

Bloody hell. Are you protecting your teammate?
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Ricochet wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:45 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:36 pm
Ricochet wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:00 pm Why should you be read town for inheriting Triple’s kill? Didn’t it go to a rand player from their wagon?
I did not inherit Triple's kill. Did Triple have a kill? My role from the start was vig. I shot Ruri, is what I'm talking about.
Oh, ok. I interpreted as claiming to have inherited Triple’s power.

Why did you only claim this at this stage of D2?

Why didn’t you vig Violet, lol?
Why shouldn’t I tbh. It’s for clarity ig. I don’t have the role anymore.

And I said why Ruri. Plus I have a soft spot for Violet, as the last and only time we played was in a champ qualifier game, and I really enjoyed him there and know he can bring more.

Also this kind of sounds like you are in fact teamed with Violet lol
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Ricochet wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:50 pm Wants to magic Epig.

Discusses with me low post choices.

Vigs my preferred low post choice.

Shades me for not going with the lowest post choice.

Bloody hell. Are you protecting your teammate?
Wat. I never shaded you for not going with the lowest post choice. I just do not at all understand your distinction between Ruri and Violet. Maybe it’s not important, idk

What teammate would I be protecting here?
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Dyslexicon wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:04 pm
Ricochet wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:45 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:36 pm
Ricochet wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:00 pm Why should you be read town for inheriting Triple’s kill? Didn’t it go to a rand player from their wagon?
I did not inherit Triple's kill. Did Triple have a kill? My role from the start was vig. I shot Ruri, is what I'm talking about.
Oh, ok. I interpreted as claiming to have inherited Triple’s power.

Why did you only claim this at this stage of D2?

Why didn’t you vig Violet, lol?
Why shouldn’t I tbh. It’s for clarity ig. I don’t have the role anymore.

And I said why Ruri. Plus I have a soft spot for Violet, as the last and only time we played was in a champ qualifier game, and I really enjoyed him there and know he can bring more.

Also this kind of sounds like you are in fact teamed with Violet lol
I don’t get your rational for sussing me on the N1 talk. If I gave you the impression in BTSC that I may be wolf and protect Violet from target, why not test it out?
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Ricochet wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:21 am
Boquise wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:12 am
Ricochet wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:54 pm Don’t seem to manage much at all today.
Boquise wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:19 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:20 am Might recommend blowing up Dolby to motivate him to play
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:56 pm don't know about dolby but idk it's dolby he hsould already be dead
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:57 am blast dolby rn
Maybe I am just too nervous about bussing. I am not convinced by this.
Why?

I judge the scenario as unlikely since mafia enjoyed a cycle with three town victims.

How does the second quote in particular read wolf towards wolf?
to me it looked like Tony and Dolby were forcing an interaction so that they wouldn't look like partners. Neither of them actually says anything about the other in their posts.
Yes, but as far as the vig shot goes, TSP confirmed Dolby blast in an instant.

Don’t get any advantageous sense for wolves out of that save for extreme supatowning facade.
I see absolutely no reason that these two can't be teammates.
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