there is no new information though besides me not having to tinfoil neon. I think you're likely a wolf with Ilario but I'm pushing Ilario not you lol
Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [GAME OVER - TOWN WIN]
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Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [Day 5]
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Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [Day 5]
like oh the person i wolf read flipped wolf and 2 people i townread flipped town
i sure do need to reevaluate my world view
??
i sure do need to reevaluate my world view
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Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [Day 5]
neon dying over you should be enough of a difference from what you were expecting that you should consider why neon died over you and possibly change your worldview
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Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [Day 5]
belzy's really preoccupied with millium. really makes me think they aren't aligned
Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [Day 5]
Wouldn't be the first time I've been voted where my iso has been ignored after I've tunneled wolves, and mislynched a day before possible mylo/lylo
Whether we live or die isn’t a big issue. If you focus on being alive, you develop fear.
Your eyes get clouded. But if you have no such feelings…
you are capable of fighting right to the end of the world.
Your eyes get clouded. But if you have no such feelings…
you are capable of fighting right to the end of the world.
Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [Day 5]
I have no idea why Neon got killed I couldn't even comprehend what the wolves are thinking, I'd kill a claimed roleblocker
Whether we live or die isn’t a big issue. If you focus on being alive, you develop fear.
Your eyes get clouded. But if you have no such feelings…
you are capable of fighting right to the end of the world.
Your eyes get clouded. But if you have no such feelings…
you are capable of fighting right to the end of the world.
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Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [Day 5]
why? Ilario thinks he can beat me in the dome so he killed Neon who was becoming blatantly town by eod and at eod voted him. It makes complete sense to me
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Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]
this feels like it's not w/wBelzy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:20 amWake me up when ilario comes with a real perspective on the game.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:17 am @Neon @ilario I think you're both town. So stop antagonising each other please. I want Ilario's perspective on the game to be logical and up to date and side questing him atm is annoying.
Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [Day 5]
Why don't I just drop everything after Lily's interactions with me about Porsche early day 1, I've also never hell bussed, l in sf1 I refused to buss Mera till lylo, probably didn't even need to do it there, but Aretes play and Mera's vote caught me off guard
Whether we live or die isn’t a big issue. If you focus on being alive, you develop fear.
Your eyes get clouded. But if you have no such feelings…
you are capable of fighting right to the end of the world.
Your eyes get clouded. But if you have no such feelings…
you are capable of fighting right to the end of the world.
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Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [Day 5]
Neon voted me because for some reason they trd belzy, that was it. You were the slot they spent the entire day casing lolLilypetal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 8:30 pmyou literally just outlined how the nk doesn't point towards me being a wolf lolilario wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 8:20 pmnot really. it points to you more.Lilypetal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 8:19 pmgee it's almost like the nk points towards you being a wolfilario wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 8:17 pm /vote millum for now
-sheeping nook, still odd to me that wisp who has illario sided and has spew in his favour is alive and neon who protected wolves and almost got me killed was the nk. again, it could just be lily fearkilling neon for the push but imma see how this feels
neon at eod saw the light and voted u
wisp is on ur side
as a wolf why would I kill neon? like you said??
Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [Day 5]
I'll be home in an hour or so
Whether we live or die isn’t a big issue. If you focus on being alive, you develop fear.
Your eyes get clouded. But if you have no such feelings…
you are capable of fighting right to the end of the world.
Your eyes get clouded. But if you have no such feelings…
you are capable of fighting right to the end of the world.
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Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [Day 5]
wisp are you reading belzy's iso?
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Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [Day 5]
Why would I not just kill you lol and then push neon who would be much easier to push. I don’t feel like ur trying to evaluate me here
Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [Day 5]
You posted a perspective, but I didn't do anything over night like you, and I want to read belzy
Whether we live or die isn’t a big issue. If you focus on being alive, you develop fear.
Your eyes get clouded. But if you have no such feelings…
you are capable of fighting right to the end of the world.
Your eyes get clouded. But if you have no such feelings…
you are capable of fighting right to the end of the world.
Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [Day 5]
You and Lily both claimed they were just town after yesterday, did you not?
Whether we live or die isn’t a big issue. If you focus on being alive, you develop fear.
Your eyes get clouded. But if you have no such feelings…
you are capable of fighting right to the end of the world.
Your eyes get clouded. But if you have no such feelings…
you are capable of fighting right to the end of the world.
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Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [Day 5]
NANOOK IS NOT A WOLF
HIS HANDLING OF PORSCHA DOES NOT ALIGN WITH THE OBVIOUS WOLF PLAN THAT MILLIUM WAS THE DESIGNATED ML DAY 1 NOR DID HE VOTE ARO. HIS POSTS TO ME ABOUT PORSCHA MAKE THEM LOOK VERY UNALIGNED
MILLIUM IS NOT A WOLF
IF HE WAS A WOLF I BELIEVE EOD3 WOULD'VE BEEN MUCH LESS MESSY AND CONSIDERING HE WAS SAVED BY 2 FLIPPED VILLAGERS AND MYSELF METHINKS HE'S A VILLAGER AND ALSO HES VERY OBVIOUSLY SPEWED TOWN BY BELZY'S ISO.
HIS HANDLING OF PORSCHA DOES NOT ALIGN WITH THE OBVIOUS WOLF PLAN THAT MILLIUM WAS THE DESIGNATED ML DAY 1 NOR DID HE VOTE ARO. HIS POSTS TO ME ABOUT PORSCHA MAKE THEM LOOK VERY UNALIGNED
MILLIUM IS NOT A WOLF
IF HE WAS A WOLF I BELIEVE EOD3 WOULD'VE BEEN MUCH LESS MESSY AND CONSIDERING HE WAS SAVED BY 2 FLIPPED VILLAGERS AND MYSELF METHINKS HE'S A VILLAGER AND ALSO HES VERY OBVIOUSLY SPEWED TOWN BY BELZY'S ISO.
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Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [Day 5]
like this spew seems to indicate ilario and wisp town. ender town. People who know nanook are calling him just town and the last few days have been better for him. literally just leaves lily and rondo
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Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [Day 5]
Well you see, the thing is is rbd rondo and lily (im only outting this now because dya is sorta ending up on the same solve I had yesterday). So unless rondo or lily had a way to bypass my rb, then the team can’t be both of them. Hence why wisp is now also in my poe as well as the fact he didn’t die and that I just tr ender you and nook more
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Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [Day 5]
Yes but I also trd other slots that did not have a wolfy eod which involved trying to save an outed wolf
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Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [Day 5]
the wolves are in dya/ilario/rondo
this should be clear to anyone paying any sort of attention
this should be clear to anyone paying any sort of attention
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Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [Day 5]
and it's kind of obviously dya/ilario because rondo isn't paired with obvious wolf ilario
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Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [Day 5]
idk how you read belzy's iso and think ilario is a wolf tbh
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Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [Day 5]
like leave me in the poe, sure, but ilario doesn't make sense with the spew
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Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [Day 5]
belzy barely interacts with rondo at all
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Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [Day 5]
have you ever considered you're not reading spew correctly lily?
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Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [Day 5]
like she's on ilario all game and keeps shading and voting him
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Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [Day 5]
ilario your thoughts on belzy spew?
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Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [Day 5]
they literally vote him as one of their last votes when ilario was being pushed more
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Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [Day 5]
where does millium voting end up?
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I thought his early spew made wisp look town, he was just looked in on trying to get wisp killed. I asked earlier in the game if belzy was a busser but didn’t get an answering. But then on d3 I asked belzy to flesh out the read for me and it felt kinda tmi-ish. It was very nuanced compared to his other reads like his read on me
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any chance you can quote what you mean?ilario wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 8:52 pmI thought his early spew made wisp look town, he was just looked in on trying to get wisp killed. I asked earlier in the game if belzy was a busser but didn’t get an answering. But then on d3 I asked belzy to flesh out the read for me and it felt kinda tmi-ish. It was very nuanced compared to his other reads like his read on me
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Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [Day 5]
I suppose it could also be that wisp is 3p and his items don’t really do anything. Would explain why my rb didn’t work in a world where the team actually is just lily and rondo and also explains why on posting wisp feels kinda wolfy at times but also doesn’t really fit with the wolf team at timesilario wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 8:43 pmWell you see, the thing is is rbd rondo and lily (im only outting this now because dya is sorta ending up on the same solve I had yesterday). So unless rondo or lily had a way to bypass my rb, then the team can’t be both of them. Hence why wisp is now also in my poe as well as the fact he didn’t die and that I just tr ender you and nook more
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Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [Day 5]
Yuppp will find it for ya when I get home, just in the middle of some stuff and about to start driving nowdyachei wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 8:54 pmany chance you can quote what you mean?ilario wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 8:52 pmI thought his early spew made wisp look town, he was just looked in on trying to get wisp killed. I asked earlier in the game if belzy was a busser but didn’t get an answering. But then on d3 I asked belzy to flesh out the read for me and it felt kinda tmi-ish. It was very nuanced compared to his other reads like his read on me
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Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [Day 5]
if it cant be both lily and rondo i think rondo is more likely
[VOTE: rondo] aubergine
[VOTE: rondo] aubergine
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Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [Day 5]
Let's look at how Belzy treats their ender push compared to their Ilario push. Starts off with a weak vote due to Ender joking about being a wolf pocketing people. MehBelzy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:48 amStop talking this way, Ender. You are either scum doing this, or I am getting paranoid over it.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:46 amAlso pocketing Aro.arogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:45 amFuck man, ender and my brain is melding so hard rn it’s kind of insane.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:44 am Oh yeah btw Neon is probably almost definitely town.
I love poking players I've pocketed recently and she's fallen right into what I expect for it.
Gtfo lmfao
Quick I'm running out of pockets.
[VOTE: EnderWiggin] aubergine
Opens a dialogue with Ender after voting him.Belzy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:52 amWe need to talk more about your scumreads.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:49 amYou/Belzy/Neon/SPF townarogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:15 am @EnderWiggin when you get caught up, Lmk ur thoughts on the game and ur pov.
I have a feeling that you, me, or Santy is gonna die today and I’d like to hear ur thoughts on current voting as well and the people that sr u.
Rondo/Mac Town?
Lily/Nanook town but light enough that I'm not 100%
Dya/Chamo idk
Alison/Seanzie Wolfish based on meh or someone else's reads.
Santy/Wisp/Tilg kinda wolfish
Illario/Porscha heavily wolfish
vote someones, then ask them their reads. There's no conviction here this vote is obviously for show to either look like their doing something or pocket ender by seeming like they're solving his alignment. I will note this does not feel like w/w to me.Belzy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:55 amYou have mentioned a few scumreads I scum lean to as well, while some of them are widely townread by others, so I just want discussion on these reads. I mostly wanna know how you read Alison, Ilario and Porscha.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:53 amAny specific questions?Belzy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:52 amWe need to talk more about your scumreads.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:49 amYou/Belzy/Neon/SPF townarogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:15 am @EnderWiggin when you get caught up, Lmk ur thoughts on the game and ur pov.
I have a feeling that you, me, or Santy is gonna die today and I’d like to hear ur thoughts on current voting as well and the people that sr u.
Rondo/Mac Town?
Lily/Nanook town but light enough that I'm not 100%
Dya/Chamo idk
Alison/Seanzie Wolfish based on meh or someone else's reads.
Santy/Wisp/Tilg kinda wolfish
Illario/Porscha heavily wolfish
without missing a beat swaps off of ender after a measly 2 posts talking to him and goes to Ilario. This vote post isn't too strangeBelzy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:02 amIlario strongly townreads Alison, so I was more thinking about what if Ilario is scum and Alison is town, or they are both scum but different parties. I don't see Ilario townreading Alison strongly as an indication they have to be teamed; I find it way too early to make such assumptions.arogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:59 am @EnderWiggin @Belzy in a world where if Alison is mafia, what do u think that means for Ilario?
Having said that:
[VOTE: ilario] aubergine
Note the aggressiveness. When talking to Ender they're inquisitive and pretending like they're solving his slot through dialogue. For Ilario Belzy just goes straight for the throat.Belzy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:48 amYes, I have a hard time placing all three of you.ilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:43 amis there any point to your questions?Belzy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:05 amWhat makes you townreading Alison and Neon this strongly?ilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:08 am my revised reads atm are probs something like
alison neon mac santy sean as villa
rondo wisp betsy as villa leans
ill probs have to go over tilgs wolf game at some point to see if my townlean there was justified but ngl their read on me felt pretty thoughtful and i cant recall if they matched anything like that last game
/vote ender
You are my 4th person I've voted so far for, so why reach to this conclusion? You are not being helpful. First, you ask me a question back instead of answering and cooperating, and then you just conclude cooperating with me is a waste of your time since my vote is currently on you.
The progression from voting Ender to ender not even being in the discussion after those 2 posts is very telling that Belzy's play was indeed to pocket ender. They then float Millium who imo was the designated day 1 ML and Ilario, who is most likely their wolf buddy. Ilario is never going over day 1 so this sets up Millium as an easy vote later on.
Belzy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:12 amYes.
Really?
So you keep saying not to explain stuff, then I ask you for stuff and you say you do explain stuff and that I miss it. What game are you playing?ilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:55 amoh no watch me get sussed by random slots for not explaining myself despite the fact that they themselves just ask a bunch of useless questions that go nowhere or they just shitpost and just expect everyone else to do their work for themilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:54 amlol spf is just a wolfstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:27 amhmmm wellarogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:10 amstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:04 amsome mix of feeling like you are townclearing me too easily when i am definitely still within both of my ranges but that i also find it plausible that you would feel feel confident about your ability to find me as townarogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:50 am @staypositivefriend pikachu, what do u think of the confidence of my read on your slot?
i actually remember that you townread me fairly confidently too in the anni mash a few months ago when i was W and you were T, so i dont think that you strongly townreading me is wolf indicative at least. i am planning to read you by other metrics this game
unfortunately im not really here rn, just staying caught up with the game so that i dont have an overwhelming amount of content to catch up with when i wake up tomorrow
Btw I think it’s townie of u to bring up anni lol, cause it kind of makes my “confident read” on you seem worse based on the fact I was “wrong on you before.” Granted, that was our second game and I hadn’t really played with u much then.
But now it’s just so much different and all the recency from our games. Additionally, I feel like we can both agree that we have similar play styles, hence we’re able to have a better feeling of one another through analysing intent/content of our posts.
But besides that point, how are u feeling about the game and where is ur head at? Current reads list is fine.
i think that mac is town
i think that rondo and seanzie are both towny enough for me to not want to go after either of them today (though if one of them is mafia it's probably seanzie and not rondo)
lilypetal and santygrass both calling neon obvious town makes me think that neon is town who is being correctly townread by them or TMI'd as town
...i actually feel similarly about porscha calling lily locktown and think that it increases lily's odds of being town regardless of porscha's alignment, though i think lily has been posting fairly well over the last few hours, at least to the extent where i am probably not willing to go after her today either
there have been various points throughout this game where i have called nook/alison/illario/tilg towny but i dont stand by my townreads on any of them anymore
if you are town then i think alison's mafia equity rises slightly
nook has been posting fine but i might have cleared him a little hastily
tilg's posts "look good" but i cant really verbalize any reasons to townread him and it's not implausible to me that he could just be a wolf who did a good job at blending in with the consensus in the early phases of the game
illario is playing closer to his typical town meta than his wolf meta but he hasn't done the main thing that i usually TR him for yet so im dropping him back to null until he does
dont have any strong reasons to townread belzy but they have enough defenders today that make me think i could just be getting pinged by their playstyle
i actually perhaps find dya's content so far maybe a little bit wolf indicative but i like dya and am kind of deliberately giving them space since they are busy and since i know if they are town they will make probably make it obvious pretty soon
i dont have any reason to townread santy and generally agree with the feeling that his reads might be coming from a place of TMI
dont have any reason to townread porscha
so if i had to shotgun a list of names that contain some mafia, it would look like alison/dya/santy/porscha/ender/tilg but this is a GTH list and not something im thinking very carefully about
/vote spf
So neon is a townread of yours, and you never explained why (same goes with other reads of yours), nor did you explain your vote on neon.ilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:08 am my revised reads atm are probs something like
alison neon mac santy sean as villa
rondo wisp betsy as villa leans
ill probs have to go over tilgs wolf game at some point to see if my townlean there was justified but ngl their read on me felt pretty thoughtful and i cant recall if they matched anything like that last game
/vote ender
Only saying that you just sheep vote there.ilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:47 amWhen have I sheeped Aside for macs vote on neon that I left for the blink of an eye?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:08 am Illario also has been doing this weird sheep thing which feels off for their normal town play.
Regardless, I do sheep a fair bit as town
Your very first post is already giving a townread, and you gave so many townreads but you keep refusing explaining them, and you even dare denying that to me!
All of these recent red bolded lines are so confident. Belzy isn't even trying to pretend like they're solving Ilario, they're just going at him for kind of no reason. There isn't like a notable progression up to this point in their iso. This is distancing and trying to look busy, plain and simple.
Belzy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:38 amI don't see how that is relevant here.ilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:25 amand did u not learn anyhting from that game? yall literally won the game because of the 3ps hard townsidingBelzy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:22 am1 timeMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:19 amHow many times have you played with Ilario in the past?
How many times have you played with mafia Ilario?
What percentage of the posts in this game have you read?
How likely do you think we are to chop Ilario on day 1 with this playerlist?
0 times, only 3p ilario who sided with town
I hope a very high %, I try to catchup everytime and sometimes iso people
At this rate not likely
Oh so all that conviction ends in Belzy just dropping it completely as if it didn't matter and voting Millium? There's not even the attempt to try and look like their progressing on Ilario's slot. They attacked Ilario and then moved off Ilario onto the day 1 ML target, Millium. These two pushes are very obviously w/v and then w/w. Belzy cares what Ender thinks and wants ender to feel like they're solving. Belzy does not give a fuck what Ilario thinks because why should they? they're partners lol. This push was never real. It's theatre.
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I also want to mention that Belzy almost never talks about or to Dya, as they mentioned how Belzy doesn't talk about Rondo.
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belzy talks to me on multiple times. And all of those times were softballs, which is why if you have me in your poe after reading belzy spew i understand. but belzy interacts even less with rondo
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i think the push on millium and the push on ilario are pretty similar so i dont agree with your case
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not really? belzy says hi to you which they do to like most players they know in the game and then doesn't really talk to you at all until responding to a question day (4)?
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no they ask me questions about my seanzie read
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I think he is a 3p, so I'm ignoring him, but he was correct on wolves, but wrong on me, so it's a bit of a debacleLilypetal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 8:43 pm NANOOK IS NOT A WOLF
HIS HANDLING OF PORSCHA DOES NOT ALIGN WITH THE OBVIOUS WOLF PLAN THAT MILLIUM WAS THE DESIGNATED ML DAY 1 NOR DID HE VOTE ARO. HIS POSTS TO ME ABOUT PORSCHA MAKE THEM LOOK VERY UNALIGNED
MILLIUM IS NOT A WOLF
IF HE WAS A WOLF I BELIEVE EOD3 WOULD'VE BEEN MUCH LESS MESSY AND CONSIDERING HE WAS SAVED BY 2 FLIPPED VILLAGERS AND MYSELF METHINKS HE'S A VILLAGER AND ALSO HES VERY OBVIOUSLY SPEWED TOWN BY BELZY'S ISO.
Whether we live or die isn’t a big issue. If you focus on being alive, you develop fear.
Your eyes get clouded. But if you have no such feelings…
you are capable of fighting right to the end of the world.
Your eyes get clouded. But if you have no such feelings…
you are capable of fighting right to the end of the world.
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Also it's not scummy for illario explain things, idk why people think other wise
Whether we live or die isn’t a big issue. If you focus on being alive, you develop fear.
Your eyes get clouded. But if you have no such feelings…
you are capable of fighting right to the end of the world.
Your eyes get clouded. But if you have no such feelings…
you are capable of fighting right to the end of the world.
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u should probably read my d2 and then tell me your read on meLilypetal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:02 pmLet's look at how Belzy treats their ender push compared to their Ilario push. Starts off with a weak vote due to Ender joking about being a wolf pocketing people. MehBelzy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:48 amStop talking this way, Ender. You are either scum doing this, or I am getting paranoid over it.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:46 amAlso pocketing Aro.arogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:45 amFuck man, ender and my brain is melding so hard rn it’s kind of insane.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:44 am Oh yeah btw Neon is probably almost definitely town.
I love poking players I've pocketed recently and she's fallen right into what I expect for it.
Gtfo lmfao
Quick I'm running out of pockets.
[VOTE: EnderWiggin] aubergineOpens a dialogue with Ender after voting him.Belzy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:52 amWe need to talk more about your scumreads.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:49 amYou/Belzy/Neon/SPF townarogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:15 am @EnderWiggin when you get caught up, Lmk ur thoughts on the game and ur pov.
I have a feeling that you, me, or Santy is gonna die today and I’d like to hear ur thoughts on current voting as well and the people that sr u.
Rondo/Mac Town?
Lily/Nanook town but light enough that I'm not 100%
Dya/Chamo idk
Alison/Seanzie Wolfish based on meh or someone else's reads.
Santy/Wisp/Tilg kinda wolfish
Illario/Porscha heavily wolfishvote someones, then ask them their reads. There's no conviction here this vote is obviously for show to either look like their doing something or pocket ender by seeming like they're solving his alignment. I will note this does not feel like w/w to me.Belzy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:55 amYou have mentioned a few scumreads I scum lean to as well, while some of them are widely townread by others, so I just want discussion on these reads. I mostly wanna know how you read Alison, Ilario and Porscha.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:53 amAny specific questions?Belzy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:52 amWe need to talk more about your scumreads.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:49 amYou/Belzy/Neon/SPF townarogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:15 am @EnderWiggin when you get caught up, Lmk ur thoughts on the game and ur pov.
I have a feeling that you, me, or Santy is gonna die today and I’d like to hear ur thoughts on current voting as well and the people that sr u.
Rondo/Mac Town?
Lily/Nanook town but light enough that I'm not 100%
Dya/Chamo idk
Alison/Seanzie Wolfish based on meh or someone else's reads.
Santy/Wisp/Tilg kinda wolfish
Illario/Porscha heavily wolfish
without missing a beat swaps off of ender after a measly 2 posts talking to him and goes to Ilario. This vote post isn't too strangeBelzy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:02 amIlario strongly townreads Alison, so I was more thinking about what if Ilario is scum and Alison is town, or they are both scum but different parties. I don't see Ilario townreading Alison strongly as an indication they have to be teamed; I find it way too early to make such assumptions.arogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:59 am @EnderWiggin @Belzy in a world where if Alison is mafia, what do u think that means for Ilario?
Having said that:
[VOTE: ilario] aubergineNote the aggressiveness. When talking to Ender they're inquisitive and pretending like they're solving his slot through dialogue. For Ilario Belzy just goes straight for the throat.Belzy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:48 amYes, I have a hard time placing all three of you.ilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:43 amis there any point to your questions?Belzy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:05 amWhat makes you townreading Alison and Neon this strongly?ilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:08 am my revised reads atm are probs something like
alison neon mac santy sean as villa
rondo wisp betsy as villa leans
ill probs have to go over tilgs wolf game at some point to see if my townlean there was justified but ngl their read on me felt pretty thoughtful and i cant recall if they matched anything like that last game
/vote ender
You are my 4th person I've voted so far for, so why reach to this conclusion? You are not being helpful. First, you ask me a question back instead of answering and cooperating, and then you just conclude cooperating with me is a waste of your time since my vote is currently on you.The progression from voting Ender to ender not even being in the discussion after those 2 posts is very telling that Belzy's play was indeed to pocket ender. They then float Millium who imo was the designated day 1 ML and Ilario, who is most likely their wolf buddy. Ilario is never going over day 1 so this sets up Millium as an easy vote later on.Belzy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:12 amYes.
Really?
So you keep saying not to explain stuff, then I ask you for stuff and you say you do explain stuff and that I miss it. What game are you playing?ilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:55 amoh no watch me get sussed by random slots for not explaining myself despite the fact that they themselves just ask a bunch of useless questions that go nowhere or they just shitpost and just expect everyone else to do their work for themilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:54 amlol spf is just a wolfstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:27 amhmmm wellarogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:10 amstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:04 am
some mix of feeling like you are townclearing me too easily when i am definitely still within both of my ranges but that i also find it plausible that you would feel feel confident about your ability to find me as town
i actually remember that you townread me fairly confidently too in the anni mash a few months ago when i was W and you were T, so i dont think that you strongly townreading me is wolf indicative at least. i am planning to read you by other metrics this game
unfortunately im not really here rn, just staying caught up with the game so that i dont have an overwhelming amount of content to catch up with when i wake up tomorrow
Btw I think it’s townie of u to bring up anni lol, cause it kind of makes my “confident read” on you seem worse based on the fact I was “wrong on you before.” Granted, that was our second game and I hadn’t really played with u much then.
But now it’s just so much different and all the recency from our games. Additionally, I feel like we can both agree that we have similar play styles, hence we’re able to have a better feeling of one another through analysing intent/content of our posts.
But besides that point, how are u feeling about the game and where is ur head at? Current reads list is fine.
i think that mac is town
i think that rondo and seanzie are both towny enough for me to not want to go after either of them today (though if one of them is mafia it's probably seanzie and not rondo)
lilypetal and santygrass both calling neon obvious town makes me think that neon is town who is being correctly townread by them or TMI'd as town
...i actually feel similarly about porscha calling lily locktown and think that it increases lily's odds of being town regardless of porscha's alignment, though i think lily has been posting fairly well over the last few hours, at least to the extent where i am probably not willing to go after her today either
there have been various points throughout this game where i have called nook/alison/illario/tilg towny but i dont stand by my townreads on any of them anymore
if you are town then i think alison's mafia equity rises slightly
nook has been posting fine but i might have cleared him a little hastily
tilg's posts "look good" but i cant really verbalize any reasons to townread him and it's not implausible to me that he could just be a wolf who did a good job at blending in with the consensus in the early phases of the game
illario is playing closer to his typical town meta than his wolf meta but he hasn't done the main thing that i usually TR him for yet so im dropping him back to null until he does
dont have any strong reasons to townread belzy but they have enough defenders today that make me think i could just be getting pinged by their playstyle
i actually perhaps find dya's content so far maybe a little bit wolf indicative but i like dya and am kind of deliberately giving them space since they are busy and since i know if they are town they will make probably make it obvious pretty soon
i dont have any reason to townread santy and generally agree with the feeling that his reads might be coming from a place of TMI
dont have any reason to townread porscha
so if i had to shotgun a list of names that contain some mafia, it would look like alison/dya/santy/porscha/ender/tilg but this is a GTH list and not something im thinking very carefully about
/vote spf
So neon is a townread of yours, and you never explained why (same goes with other reads of yours), nor did you explain your vote on neon.ilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:08 am my revised reads atm are probs something like
alison neon mac santy sean as villa
rondo wisp betsy as villa leans
ill probs have to go over tilgs wolf game at some point to see if my townlean there was justified but ngl their read on me felt pretty thoughtful and i cant recall if they matched anything like that last game
/vote ender
Only saying that you just sheep vote there.ilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:47 amWhen have I sheeped Aside for macs vote on neon that I left for the blink of an eye?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:08 am Illario also has been doing this weird sheep thing which feels off for their normal town play.
Regardless, I do sheep a fair bit as town
Your very first post is already giving a townread, and you gave so many townreads but you keep refusing explaining them, and you even dare denying that to me!All of these recent red bolded lines are so confident. Belzy isn't even trying to pretend like they're solving Ilario, they're just going at him for kind of no reason. There isn't like a notable progression up to this point in their iso. This is distancing and trying to look busy, plain and simple.Belzy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:38 amI don't see how that is relevant here.ilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:25 amand did u not learn anyhting from that game? yall literally won the game because of the 3ps hard townsidingBelzy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:22 am1 timeMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:19 amHow many times have you played with Ilario in the past?
How many times have you played with mafia Ilario?
What percentage of the posts in this game have you read?
How likely do you think we are to chop Ilario on day 1 with this playerlist?
0 times, only 3p ilario who sided with town
I hope a very high %, I try to catchup everytime and sometimes iso people
At this rate not likelyOh so all that conviction ends in Belzy just dropping it completely as if it didn't matter and voting Millium? There's not even the attempt to try and look like their progressing on Ilario's slot. They attacked Ilario and then moved off Ilario onto the day 1 ML target, Millium. These two pushes are very obviously w/v and then w/w. Belzy cares what Ender thinks and wants ender to feel like they're solving. Belzy does not give a fuck what Ilario thinks because why should they? they're partners lol. This push was never real. It's theatre.
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i think both are likely but belzy seems to be on lily's case for low posting and interacts with rondo a whopping 1 time
I also think he isn't using his power effectively
I also think he isn't using his power effectively
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so the millium "push" begins with sheeping consensus unlike their ilario pushBelzy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 4:40 am A lot of people are saying Aro/wisp one wolf there. I am trying to find out why Millium could be scum, because most are leaning there. While doing so I actually feel less sure on Alison, who changes her read so easily and quickly, just to agree with others. My first read on Millium is also being agreeable, and being very active posting.
wants more consensus
naked votes probably for "pressure"
has no stated reason to scumread millium lolBelzy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:49 amThat's what I am trying to find out. The other options mentioned in the same breath as Millium look townier to me than Millium does, and lately posting (the thread) went to another direction while I am still wondering about this spot. Millium keeps saying he should not post and such, that does ping me.
Ignore last post. Quotes got messed up there.
so yes this is just a "pressure" voteBelzy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:07 amThat is my theory, yes. Once Millium returns and posts again, I will have a stronger answer to that and I think pressuring him will help.arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:05 amI apologize for that lol, I wish I did as well.Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:59 amI wish you quoted the fixed one. Hopefully I can fix it now and here.arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:50 am Well, if it's the case of others being townie of Mill from ur pov, I would wait and see how he continues to post and give him space as the game goes on. I know that as mafia, he is capable of posting his way out of trouble and isn't the type to resort to "not posting."
Which other names were mixed in with Mill that you tr over him?
Your name, mostly. Millium actually posts a lot, and he seems like someone who will keep doing that, but the content including saying he should not post pings me for some reason. Like he is present but could be more present content wise. If that makes sense. I do look forward to his contribution when he returns.
So with posting a lot, do you feel that he is just posting to post without much content behind the posts? Do you dislike the fact that he keeps saying he does not want to post while he keeps posting?
asks questions! just like when talking to ender : )Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:21 pmYou seem to really want Rondo dead. How confident are you Rondo's scum and why are you so confident?Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:22 pmI mean people town read bad play, it's not all that uncommon. You backed it up with they are vibing, hoe hard is it to note vibe as a wolf, unlike you I don't have the meta, but I also don't think they are a wolf, so I really don't care honestly
I want rondo dead
hedgy reply because again belzy doesnt really have a reason to SR milliumBelzy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:47 pmYou are either a towny that just post every thought they are having, or scum who busy bee's.Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:44 pmDefine confident, I just think between their entrance and their constant question asking it just reeks, whether that's the case or not, I don't know, it's just what I'm most confident in right nowBelzy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:21 pmYou seem to really want Rondo dead. How confident are you Rondo's scum and why are you so confident?Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:22 pmI mean people town read bad play, it's not all that uncommon. You backed it up with they are vibing, hoe hard is it to note vibe as a wolf, unlike you I don't have the meta, but I also don't think they are a wolf, so I really don't care honestly
I want rondo dead
none of this reads as w/w, belzy is just trying to paint Millium in a bad light even though they went from "pressuring" to pushing with 0 reason. There's no conviction to this pushBelzy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:14 pmWhy are you so obsessed with me voting you?Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:09 pm 3 town leans and half s town lean to be exact, but I don't really know what differentiates betzy from the rest. I don't know if I have any problems with betzy outside the fact that I think their handling of my slot feels forced, since I don't believe as many people have but wolf reading as they seem to think is the case
that's the last post about millium before Belzy pushes ender -> ilario. this push had no substance and was very clearly trying to capitalize on momentum towards Millium. This push and the ender push are very similar except one is a pocket and one is pushing lhf for 0 reasonBelzy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:43 amI give wisp a fairly chance of being scum, and Seanzie I am less sure about placing him.arogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:35 am @Belzy can you please give ur takes on wisp and Seanzie when u get the chance please!
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haha welcome to my life
fk it lets just kill rondo and move on with our lives. if hes town well this game probably was unwinnable to begin with