Gym Class Mafia D7

[Marmot]

@DrWilgy with Jack flipping town, where's your head at?

[Shending_Help]

Its gonna be uh.. Unfortunate if all townies end up voting a wolf but falcon is somehow town and doesn't show and we lose the game because ties favor wolves

I don't think falc is town but that outcome would be painful

[Cape90]

(Imo Marmot should be that person based on what I've seen others say + my own thoughts)

Thing about Marmot is they shot town and have a limited POE (maybe had)

[Cape90]

Spacedaisy hasn’t providing full reads In chat still so I guess I’m doing the hard slog forward

Oh no poor you

Anyways

[Cape90]

Oh I forgot about hammers.

Ok never mind, we do have to be careful about where players votes.


If I'm the person deciding, we should kill dya today.

Agree with killing dya

[Cape90]

hollowkatt ( 7 ) Marmot, Spacedaisy, Wisdom, Cape90, DrWilgy, Seanzie, Sabiplz
sabiplz ( 3 ) Shending_Help, NotAnAxehole, hollowkatt
falcon45ca ( 1 ) dyachei
Wisdom ( 1 ) Alison
Not Voting ( 3 ) dunya, falcon45ca, Jackofhearts2005


Here's the vote count from EOD1 again.

I believe what happened was, in the final minute, Spacedaisy vote for hk to make it a tie between hk and sabi at 5-5. Then sean and I moved our votes from sabi to hk to break the tie.


If sabi is town, I think this is a decent look for Spacedaisy since she sheeped a TR's vote. Ties are scum-sided in this setup, but I SD didn't seem to notice she'd made it a tie, and I'm willing to believe that.

I did not make it a tie. My vote put him at 5 over i think Sabi or someone at 4. Then you all moved your votes, probably because I voted and then I posted my vote since I only had two minutes until the poll ended.

@Wisdom what I meant. By liking you, was that immediately before my vote, you said something that struck me as very townie and since I was very much going on hit reads of people, I liked the look. I was already leaning voting he because sabi didn’t read to my gut as bad, so when I saw you had also voted there, I felt more confident in that choice based on my limited info at that time.

Back to catching up now.

It wasn’t a tie when I voted I don’t believe. Or if it was I didn’t know it.

There's a disconnect in these two posts from Spacedaisy. On EOD1, she claimed to not make the Day 1 vote a tie. On Day 2, she also claimed to not break a tie.

I'm oretty darn certain that Spacedaisy made the vote a tie, and Sean and I broke the tie. It's possible someone else was moving votes at the time too, but I don't think it was anyone but Spacedaisy.


I don't think either of these actions are scummy (and breaking the tie would be townie), but I think it's odd that she denied doing either of them.


I wish she could be here to talk about it, but we have Dolby who doesn't know.

@Wisdom gg friend, was nice finding each other In a game for once. I had a feeling you weren't gonna be allowed to stick around

Sorry sabi

@Dolby heyo! Gonna be interesting to see if an outside perspective is gonna land in the same towncore as most of the ppl alrdy playing have

How much have you read?

Imma be blunt

I think your post surrounding HK up to about 150 (where I’ve read to) are wolfy.

Wilgy is probs town

I have a chat with Spacedaisy and she thinks that Dunya is a wolf and marmot is town and she kinda just dipped recently

1 min Before flip I called you/cape/Dunya the PoE

I'm glad we can have a fresh perspective on the game, but why do you think Cape and dunya are poe? I see your reasoning for Shen, I need to go back and look at those posts.



Overall, I still think Spacedaisy/Dolby are slight town or at least outer POE. Outer POE mostly due to lack of Spacedaisy sharing content or reads, but townie because of the Day 1 HK vote.

Marmot you have barely talked about me.

Sup?

[Cape90]

Its gonna be uh.. Unfortunate if all townies end up voting a wolf but falcon is somehow town and doesn't show and we lose the game because ties favor wolves

I don't think falc is town but that outcome would be painful

Uh what?

Are you seriously not town this game. I swear

[Shending_Help]

Did you stop reading after the bolded part? If all townies - falcon votes a wolf we will still lose if 4 wolves tie the vote

[Seanzie]

If I do something bold and it blows up in my face, are y'all going to forgive me?

[Marmot]

@Cape90 I've not had the time yet to look back at my stronger townreads (which includes you), nor did it seem necessary until today.

This time one day ago, we had one dead villager and two dead wolves.

I'll get there though.

[Marmot]

If I do something bold and it blows up in my face, are y'all going to forgive me?

No (yes)

[Seanzie]

If I do something bold and it blows up in my face, are y'all going to forgive me?

No (yes)

What do you think of Dya?

[Seanzie]

Actually, have we considered a mass claim?

It is probably not a bad idea since we know wolves have at most two power roles, and I feel like there should be a lot more mech info in the thread than there is currently.

[Seanzie]

I'll start. I'm VT.

[Shending_Help]

VT

[Seanzie]

@Marmot can you talk me through why you shot Jack? You had to have given the shot a lot of thought.

[Seanzie]

I wanna look at wilgy and falcon most because i think they are coasting the most

This is bad post

[Seanzie]

Ugh, Marmot and Shending are wolves...

[Seanzie]

No response, Shending?

[dyachei]

I wanna look at wilgy and falcon most because i think they are coasting the most

This is bad post

I think the wolves are comfortable right now. They aren't vying for elims or anything and they're gonna win the game when everyone sleepwalks into a miskill

[Seanzie]

I wanna look at wilgy and falcon most because i think they are coasting the most

This is bad post

I think the wolves are comfortable right now. They aren't vying for elims or anything and they're gonna win the game when everyone sleepwalks into a miskill

Wilgy and Falcon have been coasting all game, even when we elim'd two wolves back-to-back. Your thought process only applies to today. Why?

[dyachei]

I wanna look at wilgy and falcon most because i think they are coasting the most

This is bad post

I think the wolves are comfortable right now. They aren't vying for elims or anything and they're gonna win the game when everyone sleepwalks into a miskill

Wilgy and Falcon have been coasting all game, even when we elim'd two wolves back-to-back. Your thought process only applies to today. Why?

it doesn't only apply to today. I think wolves have thread control, too

[Seanzie]

I wanna look at wilgy and falcon most because i think they are coasting the most

This is bad post

I think the wolves are comfortable right now. They aren't vying for elims or anything and they're gonna win the game when everyone sleepwalks into a miskill

Wilgy and Falcon have been coasting all game, even when we elim'd two wolves back-to-back. Your thought process only applies to today. Why?

it doesn't only apply to today. I think wolves have thread control, too

So you think wolves have thread control while putting forward the two people who probably have the least thread control?

Can I get your thoughts on Marmot and Shending?

[dyachei]

I wanna look at wilgy and falcon most because i think they are coasting the most

This is bad post

I think the wolves are comfortable right now. They aren't vying for elims or anything and they're gonna win the game when everyone sleepwalks into a miskill

Wilgy and Falcon have been coasting all game, even when we elim'd two wolves back-to-back. Your thought process only applies to today. Why?

it doesn't only apply to today. I think wolves have thread control, too

So you think wolves have thread control while putting forward the two people who probably have the least thread control?

Can I get your thoughts on Marmot and Shending?

I'm think that shending is v based on previous meta with him. part of the issue for me is that it's old meta. Wisdom was reading him v, too so I think i'm gonna stick with it

Marmot I think has been towny but I honestly turned a bit of a blind eye to him after the claim

[Seanzie]

I wanna look at wilgy and falcon most because i think they are coasting the most

This is bad post

I think the wolves are comfortable right now. They aren't vying for elims or anything and they're gonna win the game when everyone sleepwalks into a miskill

Wilgy and Falcon have been coasting all game, even when we elim'd two wolves back-to-back. Your thought process only applies to today. Why?

it doesn't only apply to today. I think wolves have thread control, too

So you think wolves have thread control while putting forward the two people who probably have the least thread control?

Can I get your thoughts on Marmot and Shending?

I'm think that shending is v based on previous meta with him. part of the issue for me is that it's old meta. Wisdom was reading him v, too so I think i'm gonna stick with it

Marmot I think has been towny but I honestly turned a bit of a blind eye to him after the claim

So you, Marmot, Shending, who is the fourth?

[Seanzie]

I'd guess your post about Wilgy/Falcon is a small salad.

@dyachei can you tell me about each of Falocn and Wilgy, seperately?

[Seanzie]

Also, Dya's level of hedge on Shending and Marmot at this point I think is telling

[Shending_Help]

No response, Shending?

Lmao

Idk If ur reaction testing rn or not, but ur not gonna find me as town from it if you haven't by my play so far this game

[Shending_Help]

I think if if you go read back you'll find I was pretty much first on putting pressure on dya in this game, + I legit shot at Dya in ITAS when no1 else was. And they've been tmiing!/ pocketing me p hard if they're wolfing here. And pure self meta for a second, Im p sure I would just powerwolf with dya if we were the team and not return their Townread with a push.

I'm also probably gonna vote dya today if nothing changes, so if your team is me/dya at least you get another day

[Shending_Help]

I rly gotta sleep.

Probably mainly gonna have time to drop in for a vote tomorrow, maybe have some time to read a little on the bus ride

[Seanzie]

No response, Shending?

Lmao

Idk If ur reaction testing rn or not, but ur not gonna find me as town from it if you haven't by my play so far this game

I don't find town, I bury wolves.

[Seanzie]

That's what I thought

[Marmot]

Actually, have we considered a mass claim?

It is probably not a bad idea since we know wolves have at most two power roles, and I feel like there should be a lot more mech info in the thread than there is currently.

I think that makes sense now, especially if we're near/at LYLO

@Marmot can you talk me through why you shot Jack? You had to have given the shot a lot of thought.

Yes. I shot Jack because dya/falcon were the competing wagons, and I wanted to shoot outside of that, and Jack was the scummiest person to me outside of that.

I also thought Jack/dya looked paired, and that Jack was trying to keep dya alive, or at least work to keep pocket them while they were POE'd to keep himself alive.

[Marmot]

Ugh, Marmot and Shending are wolves...

This will require some explanation.

[Seanzie]

Actually, have we considered a mass claim?

It is probably not a bad idea since we know wolves have at most two power roles, and I feel like there should be a lot more mech info in the thread than there is currently.

I think that makes sense now, especially if we're near/at LYLO

@Marmot can you talk me through why you shot Jack? You had to have given the shot a lot of thought.

Yes. I shot Jack because dya/falcon were the competing wagons, and I wanted to shoot outside of that, and Jack was the scummiest person to me outside of that.

I also thought Jack/dya looked paired, and that Jack was trying to keep dya alive, or at least work to keep pocket them while they were POE'd to keep himself alive.

Why was Jack scummy?

[Marmot]

No response, Shending?

Lmao

Idk If ur reaction testing rn or not, but ur not gonna find me as town from it if you haven't by my play so far this game

I don't find town, I bury wolves.

After doing a post-death ISO on you and your reads on everyone in the last mountainous game, I can agree with this statement.

[Marmot]

Actually, have we considered a mass claim?

It is probably not a bad idea since we know wolves have at most two power roles, and I feel like there should be a lot more mech info in the thread than there is currently.

I think that makes sense now, especially if we're near/at LYLO

@Marmot can you talk me through why you shot Jack? You had to have given the shot a lot of thought.

Yes. I shot Jack because dya/falcon were the competing wagons, and I wanted to shoot outside of that, and Jack was the scummiest person to me outside of that.

I also thought Jack/dya looked paired, and that Jack was trying to keep dya alive, or at least work to keep pocket them while they were POE'd to keep himself alive.

Why was Jack scummy?

I just explained it.

[Seanzie]

Actually, have we considered a mass claim?

It is probably not a bad idea since we know wolves have at most two power roles, and I feel like there should be a lot more mech info in the thread than there is currently.

I think that makes sense now, especially if we're near/at LYLO

@Marmot can you talk me through why you shot Jack? You had to have given the shot a lot of thought.

Yes. I shot Jack because dya/falcon were the competing wagons, and I wanted to shoot outside of that, and Jack was the scummiest person to me outside of that.

I also thought Jack/dya looked paired, and that Jack was trying to keep dya alive, or at least work to keep pocket them while they were POE'd to keep himself alive.

Why was Jack scummy?

I just explained it.

In another post? Where? Quote it please.

[Marmot]

Are you trying to bait me rn? It is in the post you responded to.

What are you doing?

[Marmot]

@Seanzie, why did you push to kill Sabi yesterday?

[Seanzie]

Are you trying to bait me rn? It is in the post you responded to.

What are you doing?

No, it isn't.

Actually, have we considered a mass claim?

It is probably not a bad idea since we know wolves have at most two power roles, and I feel like there should be a lot more mech info in the thread than there is currently.

I think that makes sense now, especially if we're near/at LYLO

@Marmot can you talk me through why you shot Jack? You had to have given the shot a lot of thought.

Yes. I shot Jack because dya/falcon were the competing wagons, and I wanted to shoot outside of that, and Jack was the scummiest person to me outside of that.

I also thought Jack/dya looked paired, and that Jack was trying to keep dya alive, or at least work to keep pocket them while they were POE'd to keep himself alive.

In no way shape or form do you explain WHY Jack was scummy here. You just state that Jack was the scummiest outside the wagons.

You then say ALSO (Also means you already finished your thought btw, and are on to a new one, so you should have reason to scumread Jack outside of this ALSO) Jack/Dya looked paired, but that seems a pretty weak reason to actually shoot someone. Also the ALSO suggests there SHOULD be more to the story. Is there, Marmot?

[Marmot]

Are you trying to bait me rn? It is in the post you responded to.

What are you doing?

No, it isn't.

Actually, have we considered a mass claim?

It is probably not a bad idea since we know wolves have at most two power roles, and I feel like there should be a lot more mech info in the thread than there is currently.

I think that makes sense now, especially if we're near/at LYLO

@Marmot can you talk me through why you shot Jack? You had to have given the shot a lot of thought.

Yes. I shot Jack because dya/falcon were the competing wagons, and I wanted to shoot outside of that, and Jack was the scummiest person to me outside of that.

I also thought Jack/dya looked paired, and that Jack was trying to keep dya alive, or at least work to keep pocket them while they were POE'd to keep himself alive.

In no way shape or form do you explain WHY Jack was scummy here. You just state that Jack was the scummiest outside the wagons.

You then say ALSO (Also means you already finished your thought btw, and are on to a new one, so you should have reason to scumread Jack outside of this ALSO) Jack/Dya looked paired, but that seems a pretty weak reason to actually shoot someone. Also the ALSO suggests there SHOULD be more to the story. Is there, Marmot?

I think you're reading way too much out of the words I'm using. Yes I used the word "also". I offered one reason why I shot Jack, and another additional reason. The first one is that he was not one of the competing wagons, and the second was the reason I thought he looked scummy.

You agreed with my taking a shot on Jack.


And yes, I did explain it there. If you can't see that in the post, I don't know what else to tell you, and I'm concerned you're deliberately ignoring it.

[Cape90]

Did you stop reading after the bolded part? If all townies - falcon votes a wolf we will still lose if 4 wolves tie the vote

oh, that's what I get for phone posting cuz I was shopping

[Seanzie]

Are you trying to bait me rn? It is in the post you responded to.

What are you doing?

No, it isn't.

Actually, have we considered a mass claim?

It is probably not a bad idea since we know wolves have at most two power roles, and I feel like there should be a lot more mech info in the thread than there is currently.

I think that makes sense now, especially if we're near/at LYLO

@Marmot can you talk me through why you shot Jack? You had to have given the shot a lot of thought.

Yes. I shot Jack because dya/falcon were the competing wagons, and I wanted to shoot outside of that, and Jack was the scummiest person to me outside of that.

I also thought Jack/dya looked paired, and that Jack was trying to keep dya alive, or at least work to keep pocket them while they were POE'd to keep himself alive.

In no way shape or form do you explain WHY Jack was scummy here. You just state that Jack was the scummiest outside the wagons.

You then say ALSO (Also means you already finished your thought btw, and are on to a new one, so you should have reason to scumread Jack outside of this ALSO) Jack/Dya looked paired, but that seems a pretty weak reason to actually shoot someone. Also the ALSO suggests there SHOULD be more to the story. Is there, Marmot?

I think you're reading way too much out of the words I'm using. Yes I used the word "also". I offered one reason why I shot Jack, and another additional reason. The first one is that he was not one of the competing wagons, and the second was the reason I thought he looked scummy.

You agreed with my taking a shot on Jack.


And yes, I did explain it there. If you can't see that in the post, I don't know what else to tell you, and I'm concerned you're deliberately ignoring it.

I did agree, and I wonder if that gave you the excuse you needed.

I asked why you thought Jack was scummy. Jack NOT being a wagon does not make Jack scummy. So is the ONLY reason you thought Jack was scummy was because of the Jack/Dya possible team?

[Cape90]

If I do something bold and it blows up in my face, are y'all going to forgive me?

never

[Cape90]

@Marmot can you talk me through why you shot Jack? You had to have given the shot a lot of thought.

Ugh, Marmot and Shending are wolves...

I feel like this first post kind of contradicts the second post.

Feel like the first post has to assume that Marmot is town given the sentence "You had to have given the shot a lot of thought".

[Marmot]

I have 60 posts and I'm not going to re-explain the same thing to you Sean.

[Cape90]

I wanna look at wilgy and falcon most because i think they are coasting the most

This is bad post

I think the wolves are comfortable right now. They aren't vying for elims or anything and they're gonna win the game when everyone sleepwalks into a miskill

you are being put on the spot and you seem comfortable

[Cape90]

I wanna look at wilgy and falcon most because i think they are coasting the most

This is bad post

I think the wolves are comfortable right now. They aren't vying for elims or anything and they're gonna win the game when everyone sleepwalks into a miskill

Wilgy and Falcon have been coasting all game, even when we elim'd two wolves back-to-back. Your thought process only applies to today. Why?

it doesn't only apply to today. I think wolves have thread control, too

So who is wolf then? Falcon sure does not have thread control if this is what what you are implying. Do you think Falcon is town because of what you just said?

[Cape90]

I wanna look at wilgy and falcon most because i think they are coasting the most

This is bad post

I think the wolves are comfortable right now. They aren't vying for elims or anything and they're gonna win the game when everyone sleepwalks into a miskill

Wilgy and Falcon have been coasting all game, even when we elim'd two wolves back-to-back. Your thought process only applies to today. Why?

it doesn't only apply to today. I think wolves have thread control, too

So you think wolves have thread control while putting forward the two people who probably have the least thread control?

okay yeah this is what I was getting at