Re: ɒiʇɒM: Mafia Wins

[Gavial]

If we're going the vote a town route, I'm voting Dolby
If we're going the vote a mafia route, I think I'm voting Scotty
Still unsure on Scotty but he's the strongest mafia read I got rn

Explain Dolby to me.

[ignoramus]

If we're going the vote a town route, I'm voting Dolby
If we're going the vote a mafia route, I think I'm voting Scotty
Still unsure on Scotty but he's the strongest mafia read I got rn

Explain Dolby to me.

This is a copy paste from awhile back btw
Dolby - probably town, kinda reminds me of last game (and yes I was mafia there, I'm fairly certain he can back me up on this) except even less WIM-y. Difference is we had a neighborhood back then and so I knew he was more active there than ITT so kinda going *[scratches head]* rn
Like
His content kinda reminds me of last game - not much content ITT, sometimes his content just slips by and many don't notice, and etc.
So probably town? I may or may not be wanting to town-read him though so this is hard
I can link the game to you if you'd like

[ignoramus]

[VOTE: Dolby] aubergine
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[Scotty]

It’s been over 24 hours and I don’t think marmot or NAA have posted.

Dunno what that means.

[Scotty]

like it’s a limited posting game but it doesn’t mean you Nee to be ultra conservative. I have almost twice as many posts as the next person and I’m actually actively curtailing my posting so as not to seem spam posty.

More content people! It will help in d6 when it’s just Doom, Ruri and luckbox, and I don’t like those options with their current input.

[Scotty]

If we're going the vote a town route, I'm voting Dolby
If we're going the vote a mafia route, I think I'm voting Scotty
Still unsure on Scotty but he's the strongest mafia read I got rn

I reported this post for violating the rules of logic.

Not really, but you don’t trust me? You can trust me, I don’t bite.

[Scotty]

Does anyone smell toast

[Gavial]

Does anyone smell toast

Do you want to remove your Marmot vote and vote them tomorrow instead?

[DaughterOfOmega]

vote:Gavial

[Gavial]

I mean IDRC if I go today but the longer I’m alive the less of a chance the wolves have at winning.
Don’t want to be alive too long though I just don’t think this is it for me today I want to make sure things go smoothly before I depart.
Also you didn’t vote properly so I don’t think your vote on me counted anyway.

[ignoramus]

If we're going the vote a town route, I'm voting Dolby
If we're going the vote a mafia route, I think I'm voting Scotty
Still unsure on Scotty but he's the strongest mafia read I got rn

I reported this post for violating the rules of logic.

Not really, but you don’t trust me? You can trust me, I don’t bite.

I was legit worried you reported me LMAO
I was like "oh crud did I do something wrong??"
Anyway about me saying "not really", what I meant was you're my strongest mafia read right now but in terms of *how* MP much I mafia read you it's not much

[ignoramus]

I do not know how and/or why MP appeared while I was typing but it isn't meant to be there

[ignoramus]

I thought about it more in between homework and
[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine
Goodnight! I hope this isn't wrong and/or anti-town

[Scotty]

I thought about it more in between homework and
[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine
Goodnight! I hope this isn't wrong and/or anti-town

Nah you good g

If enough people are suspicious of me and it will help solve the game then so be it.

I just don’t think I’m the most scummy person here and I’m just amazed people are still thinking that.

I need a public defender

[Scotty]

Does anyone smell toast

Do you want to remove your Marmot vote and vote them tomorrow instead?

Meh
Maybe

[Scotty]

vote:Gavial

[Scotty]

Ignoramus probably town

[sabie12]

So are we going for scummy player and hopefully not allow mafia to choose one of their own or a towny player and see who they choose? Either way we will learn more after today. I guess I'll vote scotty. I think knowing for sure if he is town or mafia will maybe help us figure out where to go next. [VOTE: scotty] aubergine

[Scotty]

So are we going for scummy player and hopefully not allow mafia to choose one of their own or a towny player and see who they choose? Either way we will learn more after today. I guess I'll vote scotty. I think knowing for sure if he is town or mafia will maybe help us figure out where to go next. [VOTE: scotty] aubergine

What do you think I am?

[Scotty]

We need more definitive gut reads from people.

Like, we really need people to provide their opinions on people, especially before the NK so we can use it against them.

I’m actually pissy right now that the majority of players here are just shrugging and voting for me without offering any original thoughts about anyone else.

Play the game. When I’m gone, I have no confidence in you people to suss out mafia. Sorry.

[Gavial]

Have you not seen me GOAT?
I think “don’t vote me or else you can’t win” is a pretty wolfy reason that your using here.

[Scotty]

Ok time to compile gut reads. Take these with a grain of salt after I die because I’m much better at analysis after a scum reveal.

Marmot is hiding in his bidet hole but probably town. Marmot has only gone after me, hasn’t made any real pushes for other people afaik. Looked in his iso and this stands out:

Am I doing this right?

Real talk, m8s

I like sloon’s suggestion of keeping a strong town voice or two, but might it also be a good move to try and kill obvious town when we see it?

Mafia still has to kill at night, and they might as well kill the towniest like usual, decreasing our odds of finding towniest. So each day will start anew finding our towniest voices. Is that a viable strategy? Hmm

Luckbox is my current towniest read. Cant place why

Hot take: This is wolf Sloonei's attempt to slot himself as the "Obvious town leader to murder in F5" given how he is generally viewed/read in mafia games.

as an awkward post to make if his team is just gonna kill sloonei N1. He asks questions, and has been involved.

I’m with gavial. Probably town.

And then there’s gavial. He’s had a command of the game since he entered to an extent. Came in dumbtelling, has grounded himself to logical reasoning. Not as bouncy and frenetic as I seem to remember last time we played together, but that was a no-post-limit game so maybe that has something to do with it.
Tend to agree with a lot of what he’s saying. Probably town.

NAA I’ve say my both ways recently as I’ve done a more thorough iso. If there’s a deep wolf, it could be him.

Wilgy is probably town for reasons I stated at the beginning of the day

Ignoramus has some posts entering today that are very green. More importantly, the post where he starts casing tess after tess had already died? Suuuuper dumbtell that I don’t think he fakes here. I’d almost call ignoramus as supatown for that.


Then things get muddy


Dolby: for some reason I had some good pings, but looking back through the iso, I don’t remember why.

Scotty doesn't have a good SoD2

Gav and NAA town

endorse NAA's 337

Wilgy a wolf but not with Scotty

Tess is w/e

I don't remember a singular TSP post

Marmot can be good

I have 0 WIM this game

this post inspires no confidence. BUT at least he has provided actual reads, even if there is no substance behind them.

luckbox I viewed as having a good D1, but upon inspection, none of his posts have been pointed in any direction. This could be just how he wants to play- wishy washy and giving nothing away- but it’s doing town no favors if he is town.

Doom: has calculus exams to study for.

I definitely find Ruri sketch

Since I'm finally on break, I took some time to read and I have town something like Sabie Gavial Wigly (that other guy as well)

I'd probably kill something like Ruri or TSP

these are posts from someone who forgot what game we’re playing but I’m not certain this dumbtell is alignment indicative. Please post more

Ruri: Has parroted prevailing strategies but everything is surface level. Self-professed ‘always sketch’. Absolute nightmare fuel if left in an f3. Either Ruri has to post more reads and content, or we’re gonna have to lynch them at some point before endgame. Please for the love of god.


In conclusion:
Confident town:
-wilgy
-ignoramus
-marmot
-gavial

Could be deepwolf:
-NAA
-wilgy* if his plan is to be the n3 NK

Not giving enough to be a townread:
-Dolby
-Doom

Giving enough to be too blendy and need to see more of before I would ever consent to lynching, and my current mafia list:
-luckbox
-sabie
-Ruri

[Scotty]

Have you not seen me GOAT?
I think “don’t vote me or else you can’t win” is a pretty wolfy reason that your using here.

lol thanks gav

[Gavial]

Have you not seen me GOAT?
I think “don’t vote me or else you can’t win” is a pretty wolfy reason that your using here.

lol thanks gav

Hey I’m fine with you going over as long as Marmot goes over tomorrow.

[Scotty]

Have you not seen me GOAT?
I think “don’t vote me or else you can’t win” is a pretty wolfy reason that your using here.

Here’s another reason tho if you need more convincing

[Gavial]

I already said yeeted a wolf on days like these.
Day 3, Day 5.
Are fine because a wolf is going to get closer during the night anyway.
It’s better to see who they decide to kill for a better view on whom their buddies are.

[Scotty]

Have you not seen me GOAT?
I think “don’t vote me or else you can’t win” is a pretty wolfy reason that your using here.

lol thanks gav

Hey I’m fine with you going over as long as Marmot goes over tomorrow.

Why not reverse the order of operations? PEDMAS and all that

[Scotty]

Anyway, {M}armot comes before {S}cotty in PEMDAS I just realized.

How bout them apples, calculus professor @DaughterOfOmega ?

[Gavial]

Have you not seen me GOAT?
I think “don’t vote me or else you can’t win” is a pretty wolfy reason that your using here.

lol thanks gav

Hey I’m fine with you going over as long as Marmot goes over tomorrow.

Why not reverse the order of operations? PEDMAS and all that

Wolfy should die Day 3 and Day 5.
So Marmot dies Day 4.

[Scotty]

Counterpoint, Gav- Marmot hasn’t posted this phase, and there’s no telling if he will again. In my profession, you’re graded less on what you’ve done over time and more on what you’ve done for me recently (thank you Janet Jackson)

[Scotty]

Have you not seen me GOAT?
I think “don’t vote me or else you can’t win” is a pretty wolfy reason that your using here.

lol thanks gav

Hey I’m fine with you going over as long as Marmot goes over tomorrow.

Why not reverse the order of operations? PEDMAS and all that

Wolfy should die Day 3 and Day 5.
So Marmot dies Day 4.

Give me something to defend against as to why I’m the most wolfy person on your list of posters

[Scotty]

And if it’s ‘well, I just want him to shut up because I’m trying to have a chill game’ then stick a fork in it, buster brown.

Why on earth would I as mafia be so averse to being lynched? I could just as easily Kill myself tonight if we lynch a town.

Now, half the town thinks I’m bad and what have we learned when I’m revealed town?

[Marmot]

iH

[Marmot]

And if it’s ‘well, I just want him to shut up because I’m trying to have a chill game’ then stick a fork in it, buster brown.

Why on earth would I as mafia be so averse to being lynched? I could just as easily Kill myself tonight if we lynch a town.

Now, half the town thinks I’m bad and what have we learned when I’m revealed town?

Counterpoint. Why, as town, would you be averse to it?

[Marmot]

It’s been over 24 hours and I don’t think marmot or NAA have posted.

Dunno what that means.

I worked yesterday and was out late afterward, that's what it means.

[Marmot]

We really should be making mafia kill their own this night phase, giving an obv town more time to talk d4, as opposed to mafia getting a free pass today, killing obv town tonight, and losing a potential helpful voice. Scummiest player should not be voted out today.

Maybe Marmot should be the chop today for that reason.

Marmot and Wilgy wanted my head for a while now, and I can’t actually remember what reads NAA has pushed

Scotty argues we should try to chop a townie today.

Scotty also argues against him being today's chop.


These two thoughts together, unless I'm missing a switch in cognitive processing, suggest to me that you are mafia Scotty.

[Marmot]

I don't like Scotty at all this game, but Gaviale posting seems towny

Stating the obvious?

Which is obvious? That gav’s post seem towny or that she doesn’t like me

Yeah, which makes me wonder why Gav is choosing this interaction (with you)... Maybe I have it backward.

I'll have to read the thread (probably N2 if I'm not dispatched today).

Well Gav is probably engaging with me because I’m engaging with him and he just wants to be involved. This hot potato game he’s suggesting is probably NAI but it also screams ‘I want to appear like I’m being productive’

Not scum reading him right now, but he’s not super town to me yet.

I feel like wolves probably feel a need to be a bit more vocal today since that seems to be the way we’re lynching. I’m still wary of Wilgy, and…honestly, even marmot.

If luckbox is wolf, his posts have been intentionally milquetoast.

Marmot is on my potential wolf list.

Ruri actually seems town to me

okieee heres my current list, in order of least confident to lynch > cannons away

DaughterOfOmega
Wilgy
Marmot
sabie

Gavial
Ruri
Dolby

Poison
Luckbox
NAA
tess
TSP

Scotty talking about me on Day 2.



Why am I your vote today Scotty? You're voting me because you think I'm town right?

[Gavial]

Have you not seen me GOAT?
I think “don’t vote me or else you can’t win” is a pretty wolfy reason that your using here.

lol thanks gav

Hey I’m fine with you going over as long as Marmot goes over tomorrow.

Why not reverse the order of operations? PEDMAS and all that

Wolfy should die Day 3 and Day 5.
So Marmot dies Day 4.

Give me something to defend against as to why I’m the most wolfy person on your list of posters

You legit just gave a wolfy defence on why you shouldn’t be voted and then sent me an image of a wolf.

[Gavial]

And if it’s ‘well, I just want him to shut up because I’m trying to have a chill game’ then stick a fork in it, buster brown.

Why on earth would I as mafia be so averse to being lynched? I could just as easily Kill myself tonight if we lynch a town.

Now, half the town thinks I’m bad and what have we learned when I’m revealed town?

Why would I have a problem with your contribution? Lol.
It’s NAI and I don’t care if you keep talking.

Yeah you could kill yourself tonight but if there are weaker mafia you would be more inclined to want them to die instead of yourself and thus try to avoid yourself from dying today.

Your not revealed Town but if you do flip Town upon this days exile then I’ll tell you what.
I’ll follow your reads but only after Marmot goes over tomorrow.

[Gavial]

We really should be making mafia kill their own this night phase, giving an obv town more time to talk d4, as opposed to mafia getting a free pass today, killing obv town tonight, and losing a potential helpful voice. Scummiest player should not be voted out today.

Maybe Marmot should be the chop today for that reason.

Marmot and Wilgy wanted my head for a while now, and I can’t actually remember what reads NAA has pushed

Scotty argues we should try to chop a townie today.

Scotty also argues against him being today's chop.


These two thoughts together, unless I'm missing a switch in cognitive processing, suggest to me that you are mafia Scotty.

Exactly!

[Marmot]

Why don't we yeet a low-poster today? If they're town, great for us! If not, then it's a wash since mafia will have to kill town tonight anyway. Either way, it'll be easier to do that now than waiting until F3.

Just thinking ahead, town can't win this game at all before F3, so yeeting obvious town every single day will make our lives harder in the future. I know we talked about Day 3 and Day 5 being better gamble days for us, what about a gamble in that direction?

[Marmot]

If Scotty really is mafia, he'll almost certainly keep talking the next couple days (unless he's killed tonight), and we can broach it again Day 5. That's my main argument for not chopping him today.

[Marmot]

I nominate Dolby. They haven't posted today, but a couple of their reads I find nuanced enough to be more town-associated.

NAA works too. He hasn't been low-posting in general, but he hasn't posted yet today.

Ruri, I have very little confident in being town.

DoO I'm middling on. She's offered just enough engagement and discussion to not look like my memory of her scumplay, there's just not a lot of it. GTH, I'd call her town.

sabie appears to be having trouble formulating a strategy in this game or doing much, but she's being open about all of this, and I think that's slightly towny. I'd be ok yeeting her today.

Luckbox's Day 3 I find kinda scummy. He has made many posts that look like "I don't really know about so-and-so, but I also haven't read" or "Player X could be this, but I haven't really read their posts" There is a number of instances of adding excuses to his engagements/statements. Example 1, Example 2, Example 3. I perceive this as offering back doors for their reads so they can walk away from them. I'm curious about other players' thoughts on this.

Poison/ignoramus. Poison fell off the face of the earth, and ignoramus hasn't become engaged enough in the game for me to TR him, but I gather that he will be.


DrWilgy, Scotty, and Sonny/Gavial don't qualify, being avid posters this game. (Sonny hasn't but Gav has)

[Marmot]

My current scum team appears to look like Scotty/Luckbox/Ruri.

I do think Scotty and Luckbox are compatible scummates.

I guess I would be interested to know what alignment either wilgy or scotty is after all their back and forth. That might give us some info to go off of.

Wilgy seems pretty natural and Scotty seems fine too- but if one is a wolf I'd guess Scotty but I don't see any particular reason why he should be singled out amongst the other posters here either, fwiw

This post from Luckbox, it's quite waffly when talking about Scotty, and doesn't come to any sort of conclusion.

@Luckbox Inc what's your current take on Scotty? Do you think we should chop him today?

Well I start a new job today so my posting is going to be sporadic. I'm fine with Poison and Sonny as wolves though-- still working on the third.

You are my top townread

Am I doing this right?

Real talk, m8s

I like sloon’s suggestion of keeping a strong town voice or two, but might it also be a good move to try and kill obvious town when we see it?

Mafia still has to kill at night, and they might as well kill the towniest like usual, decreasing our odds of finding towniest. So each day will start anew finding our towniest voices. Is that a viable strategy? Hmm

Luckbox is my current towniest read. Cant place why

Scotty went through Day 1 with Luckbox as his top townread. No reason for it. He even admitted that. It wasn't until today when he decided to question it. I do find that convenient, in that we've talked about chopping scum today, and scum are gonna start nightkilling each other soon if the former doesn't happen. It could be coincidence though, as a town player will hopefully reconsider their reads at some point. I don't think that's the case here though.

[Marmot]

Alright, I'll put down the tinfoil now and wait and see what scum flips first.

[Scotty]

My current scum team appears to look like Scotty/Luckbox/Ruri.

I do think Scotty and Luckbox are compatible scummates.

I guess I would be interested to know what alignment either wilgy or scotty is after all their back and forth. That might give us some info to go off of.

Wilgy seems pretty natural and Scotty seems fine too- but if one is a wolf I'd guess Scotty but I don't see any particular reason why he should be singled out amongst the other posters here either, fwiw

This post from Luckbox, it's quite waffly when talking about Scotty, and doesn't come to any sort of conclusion.

@Luckbox Inc what's your current take on Scotty? Do you think we should chop him today?

Well I start a new job today so my posting is going to be sporadic. I'm fine with Poison and Sonny as wolves though-- still working on the third.

You are my top townread

Am I doing this right?

Real talk, m8s

I like sloon’s suggestion of keeping a strong town voice or two, but might it also be a good move to try and kill obvious town when we see it?

Mafia still has to kill at night, and they might as well kill the towniest like usual, decreasing our odds of finding towniest. So each day will start anew finding our towniest voices. Is that a viable strategy? Hmm

Luckbox is my current towniest read. Cant place why

Scotty went through Day 1 with Luckbox as his top townread. No reason for it. He even admitted that. It wasn't until today when he decided to question it. I do find that convenient, in that we've talked about chopping scum today, and scum are gonna start nightkilling each other soon if the former doesn't happen. It could be coincidence though, as a town player will hopefully reconsider their reads at some point. I don't think that's the case here though.

If you look at my recent read post you’ll see I agree with everything you’ve said RE luckbox. Very waffly and non-commital as the game’s gone on. I think I’m being pretty transparent with my evolving reads, and I’m notoriously shit at D1’s. Ruri is also on my radar too, so I’m aligned with your thinking there.

You’re a good man, Charlie Brown marmot. Just wrong about me, but at least I can take solace that you’re present and can pick up the slack when I’m gone

NAA being MIA today is a bad look, even though it might just be RL things. It seems convenient in case mafia have to chop him tonite.

[Scotty]

@Marmot what is your opinion of Wilgy?

[Scotty]

prediction-
I go over,
someone totally scummy like luckbox is killed tonight.

In that case, I think an ambiguous Under the radar person like Dolby should get lynched tomorrow.

I just fear that one of Wilgy or NAA is the deepwolf and it’s gonna come down to opting to lynch them D6

[Gavial]

Why don't we yeet a low-poster today? If they're town, great for us! If not, then it's a wash since mafia will have to kill town tonight anyway. Either way, it'll be easier to do that now than waiting until F3.

Just thinking ahead, town can't win this game at all before F3, so yeeting obvious town every single day will make our lives harder in the future. I know we talked about Day 3 and Day 5 being better gamble days for us, what about a gamble in that direction?

I nominate Dolby. They haven't posted today, but a couple of their reads I find nuanced enough to be more town-associated.

NAA works too. He hasn't been low-posting in general, but he hasn't posted yet today.

Ruri, I have very little confident in being town.

DoO I'm middling on. She's offered just enough engagement and discussion to not look like my memory of her scumplay, there's just not a lot of it. GTH, I'd call her town.

sabie appears to be having trouble formulating a strategy in this game or doing much, but she's being open about all of this, and I think that's slightly towny. I'd be ok yeeting her today.

Luckbox's Day 3 I find kinda scummy. He has made many posts that look like "I don't really know about so-and-so, but I also haven't read" or "Player X could be this, but I haven't really read their posts" There is a number of instances of adding excuses to his engagements/statements. Example 1, Example 2, Example 3. I perceive this as offering back doors for their reads so they can walk away from them. I'm curious about other players' thoughts on this.

Poison/ignoramus. Poison fell off the face of the earth, and ignoramus hasn't become engaged enough in the game for me to TR him, but I gather that he will be.


DrWilgy, Scotty, and Sonny/Gavial don't qualify, being avid posters this game. (Sonny hasn't but Gav has)

Oh I’m definitely down with this.
NAA or Luck works for me!

[Scotty]

Why don't we yeet a low-poster today? If they're town, great for us! If not, then it's a wash since mafia will have to kill town tonight anyway. Either way, it'll be easier to do that now than waiting until F3.

Just thinking ahead, town can't win this game at all before F3, so yeeting obvious town every single day will make our lives harder in the future. I know we talked about Day 3 and Day 5 being better gamble days for us, what about a gamble in that direction?

I nominate Dolby. They haven't posted today, but a couple of their reads I find nuanced enough to be more town-associated.

NAA works too. He hasn't been low-posting in general, but he hasn't posted yet today.

Ruri, I have very little confident in being town.

DoO I'm middling on. She's offered just enough engagement and discussion to not look like my memory of her scumplay, there's just not a lot of it. GTH, I'd call her town.

sabie appears to be having trouble formulating a strategy in this game or doing much, but she's being open about all of this, and I think that's slightly towny. I'd be ok yeeting her today.

Luckbox's Day 3 I find kinda scummy. He has made many posts that look like "I don't really know about so-and-so, but I also haven't read" or "Player X could be this, but I haven't really read their posts" There is a number of instances of adding excuses to his engagements/statements. Example 1, Example 2, Example 3. I perceive this as offering back doors for their reads so they can walk away from them. I'm curious about other players' thoughts on this.

Poison/ignoramus. Poison fell off the face of the earth, and ignoramus hasn't become engaged enough in the game for me to TR him, but I gather that he will be.


DrWilgy, Scotty, and Sonny/Gavial don't qualify, being avid posters this game. (Sonny hasn't but Gav has)

Oh I’m definitely down with this.
NAA or Luck works for me!

I’m down
[VOTE: NAA] aubergine