Re: ɒiʇɒM: Mafia Wins

[Scotty]

I’m feeling pretty confident Doom is bad tho lol

[Scotty]

If I’m the consensus lynch today to see if I really am mafia however, I’m down. Because if I’m bad Wilgy is probably dying tonight in retaliation.

Damn Wilgy might just be town YALL im slightly buzzed and feel Ahandsome

[Luckbox Inc]

Since we are actually scum hunting today, I propose we yeet Scotty for generally scummy behavior.

Wait we are trying to kill wolves today for real?

[Gavial]

Hmm
Luck how do you feel about being the hit for today?

[Dolby]

Since we are actually scum hunting today, I propose we yeet Scotty for generally scummy behavior.

Wait we are trying to kill wolves today for real?

Yeah, scum just kills their scummies person tnight. Really we should be trying to kill a town that never gets voted out normally (scummiest townie). But voting out a mafia does lead to maf being forced to kill our towniest person in steward of their scummiest

[Gavial]

If Luck’s scum he’s in the best position.
He isn’t Scummy enough to be last pick and isn’t Townie enough to be first pick.
Being in the middle usually means your never gonna get picked and a decent position for mafia in this situation.
Let’s change up the odds about then shall we?
Let’s get Luck!

[DaughterOfOmega]

I'm not scum, but I can't blame anyone for thinking

[Gavial]

Vote luck with me?

[ignoramus]

Ho hum

Hi ramus, welcome.

Also tess was killed last night.

We got another dumbtell player here lol

Hi Scotty! Also yep! Resident dumbtell player here B]

Vote luck with me?

I
Don't see why they gotta be voted out? Will read then will see
Also why do we gotta yeet a mafia today? I don't get it

[ignoramus]

I read Luck's ISO and part of my brain says "probably mafia because little content and tone feels wolfy for reasons I can't place" but another part is saying "what if their tone and minimal content is just what they always have regardless of alignment" but another part is going "what if they're doing this to get yeeted early?"
I can't decide on them :cantlook:
Also my back is cracking a lot ouch
Is this what being old feels like
So TLDR I don't want them voted out rn

[sabie12]

Ho hum

Hi ramus, welcome.

Also tess was killed last night.

We got another dumbtell player here lol

Hi Scotty! Also yep! Resident dumbtell player here B]

Vote luck with me?

I
Don't see why they gotta be voted out? Will read then will see
Also why do we gotta yeet a mafia today? I don't get it

The thought was that if we end up voting out a mafia then they don't get to choose one of thier own to nk. Night 3 and night 5 if no mafia get voted out then they can choose one of their own to nk.

[Luckbox Inc]

So yeah I'm a villager. If I'm actually under the microscope today then I'll try to do more as I do actually have a little time...but can someone explain why we want to kill a wolf specifically today now? And it doesn't actually matter if I'm mislynched either I assume?

Nor sure why people think I'm wolfy although I get I haven't done much.

[sabie12]

I don't think in general people have done a lot this game so far (myself included for just some real life things). I think with this game style being kind of out of the norm people have been a little hesitant and unsure. I think now that we've gotten this far we should try to work together as best we can to figure out what to do. Either way if we vote out a mafia or mafia kills one of their own we will have at least something to go off of after night 3 which might help us get on the same page more than we have been. It's just a matter of do we choose or do they choose and what's better? I guess going for someone we are less sure about may be the better way to get more info.

[sabie12]

I guess I would be interested to know what alignment either wilgy or scotty is after all their back and forth. That might give us some info to go off of.

[ignoramus]

Ho hum

Hi ramus, welcome.

Also tess was killed last night.

We got another dumbtell player here lol

Hi Scotty! Also yep! Resident dumbtell player here B]

Vote luck with me?

I
Don't see why they gotta be voted out? Will read then will see
Also why do we gotta yeet a mafia today? I don't get it

The thought was that if we end up voting out a mafia then they don't get to choose one of thier own to nk. Night 3 and night 5 if no mafia get voted out then they can choose one of their own to nk.

Ohh

I guess I would be interested to know what alignment either wilgy or scotty is after all their back and forth. That might give us some info to go off of.

I will admit I haven't read much but GTH their back and forth doesn't feel not w/w, reason probably being Scotty's tone/how he's treating Wilgy - it's like he's treating doctor (?) with kid gloves or something but that may just be what he does regardless of alignment
The way he responded to me feels kinda...flat, which could pretty much also be said for how he reacted to Wilgy's arguments with him, if that makes sense
Anyway goodnight!

[Luckbox Inc]

I guess I would be interested to know what alignment either wilgy or scotty is after all their back and forth. That might give us some info to go off of.

Wilgy seems pretty natural and Scotty seems fine too- but if one is a wolf I'd guess Scotty but I don't see any particular reason why he should be singled out amongst the other posters here either, fwiw

[Luckbox Inc]

Ho hum

Hi ramus, welcome.

Also tess was killed last night.

We got another dumbtell player here lol

Hi Scotty! Also yep! Resident dumbtell player here B]

Vote luck with me?

I
Don't see why they gotta be voted out? Will read then will see
Also why do we gotta yeet a mafia today? I don't get it

I'd like it explained too but trying to yeet a wolf sounds like a fun challenge so I'm up for it. Yeeting villagers too easy.

[Scotty]

I have a theory that’s been forming:

Wolves are the ones lying low and not pushing too many varied reads/ keeping a tight ship, so that they won’t spew anyone when they do eventually get lynched.

In this theory, Gav and Wilgy are town.
Luckbox could be wolf.

If we lynch luck, and he’s wolf, we actually don’t learn a whole lot in the scheme of things. His activity has been married to following the path of least resistance and looking unaggressive.

[Scotty]

If I’m wolf, I’m an open book in my reads I think. It’s just bad play, and I’m aware of that. I’d like to think I wouldn’t be that dumb as a wolf. Loose lips sink ships, and I can’t seem to shut up this game.

I’d like to lynch a town today and see who mafia tars and feathers from their ranks. If that be me, then so be it, but it should be someone who is in the upper Eschelon of talkers, or else we learn nothing.

So that would mean Me, Wilgy, Marmot and NAA

[Scotty]

[VOTE: Axehole] aubergine

Just off of gut, I am most confident in, from town->wolf:
Wilgy > NAA > Marmot

Again, I feel like Wilgy isn’t bad in this scenario only because I know I’m good and it doesn’t serve a bad Wilgy to push me early today UNLESS he’s just ready to die tonight

[Luckbox Inc]

I have a theory that’s been forming:

Wolves are the ones lying low and not pushing too many varied reads/ keeping a tight ship, so that they won’t spew anyone when they do eventually get lynched.

In this theory, Gav and Wilgy are town.
Luckbox could be wolf.

If we lynch luck, and he’s wolf, we actually don’t learn a whole lot in the scheme of things. His activity has been married to following the path of least resistance and looking unaggressive.

you not calling me the most villagery person anymore makes me better about you fwiw

[Luckbox Inc]

[VOTE: Axehole] aubergine

Just off of gut, I am most confident in, from town->wolf:
Wilgy > NAA > Marmot

Again, I feel like Wilgy isn’t bad in this scenario only because I know I’m good and it doesn’t serve a bad Wilgy to push me early today UNLESS he’s just ready to die tonight

Why are you so confident that NAA is a villager? I haven't really paid any attention to his posts so just curious there.

[Scotty]

[VOTE: Axehole] aubergine

Just off of gut, I am most confident in, from town->wolf:
Wilgy > NAA > Marmot

Again, I feel like Wilgy isn’t bad in this scenario only because I know I’m good and it doesn’t serve a bad Wilgy to push me early today UNLESS he’s just ready to die tonight

Why are you so confident that NAA is a villager? I haven't really paid any attention to his posts so just curious there.

Gut, mostly.

As he would say,

T o N e R e A d S

something about marmot’s involvement seems sus to me.

Most things will be tone until we get a wolf flip

[Scotty]

I have a theory that’s been forming:

Wolves are the ones lying low and not pushing too many varied reads/ keeping a tight ship, so that they won’t spew anyone when they do eventually get lynched.

In this theory, Gav and Wilgy are town.
Luckbox could be wolf.

If we lynch luck, and he’s wolf, we actually don’t learn a whole lot in the scheme of things. His activity has been married to following the path of least resistance and looking unaggressive.

you not calling me the most villagery person anymore makes me better about you fwiw

do you agree or disagree with my theory tho?

[Luckbox Inc]

I have a theory that’s been forming:

Wolves are the ones lying low and not pushing too many varied reads/ keeping a tight ship, so that they won’t spew anyone when they do eventually get lynched.

In this theory, Gav and Wilgy are town.
Luckbox could be wolf.

If we lynch luck, and he’s wolf, we actually don’t learn a whole lot in the scheme of things. His activity has been married to following the path of least resistance and looking unaggressive.

you not calling me the most villagery person anymore makes me better about you fwiw

do you agree or disagree with my theory tho?

I think there could also be a try-hardy wolf (someone like Marmot I guess-- although really I haven't been reading so I've missed a bunch of posts)-- but if a bunch of villagers are doing little then it makes sense that wolves would be playing the same.

[Gavial]

[VOTE: Axehole] aubergine

Just off of gut, I am most confident in, from town->wolf:
Wilgy > NAA > Marmot

Again, I feel like Wilgy isn’t bad in this scenario only because I know I’m good and it doesn’t serve a bad Wilgy to push me early today UNLESS he’s just ready to die tonight

Why are you so confident that NAA is a villager? I haven't really paid any attention to his posts so just curious there.

Gut, mostly.

As he would say,

T o N e R e A d S

something about marmot’s involvement seems sus to me.

Most things will be tone until we get a wolf flip

I’m cool with this.
I’m still sus of Luckbox but both Luck and NAA seems like the ones trying to stay in the middle.

[Gavial]

I have a theory that’s been forming:

Wolves are the ones lying low and not pushing too many varied reads/ keeping a tight ship, so that they won’t spew anyone when they do eventually get lynched.

In this theory, Gav and Wilgy are town.
Luckbox could be wolf.

If we lynch luck, and he’s wolf, we actually don’t learn a whole lot in the scheme of things. His activity has been married to following the path of least resistance and looking unaggressive.

you not calling me the most villagery person anymore makes me better about you fwiw

do you agree or disagree with my theory tho?

I think there could also be a try-hardy wolf (someone like Marmot I guess-- although really I haven't been reading so I've missed a bunch of posts)-- but if a bunch of villagers are doing little then it makes sense that wolves would be playing the same.

Yeah I’m actually not voting NAA because I TR them FYI Scotty.
I’m voting them basically because of this and the fact both them and Luck seemed to be trying to receive the middle position and that in itself makes them both good choices for today as both have a decent chance of flipping wolf so we can avoid the wolves from being in a good position for late game.

[Gavial]

I think it’s better to remove one potential “Deep” sorta wolf or more like “middle” wolf today and then see who’s kill during the night to get a better clear idea where the wolves probably are.

[Luckbox Inc]

[VOTE: Axehole] aubergine

Just off of gut, I am most confident in, from town->wolf:
Wilgy > NAA > Marmot

Again, I feel like Wilgy isn’t bad in this scenario only because I know I’m good and it doesn’t serve a bad Wilgy to push me early today UNLESS he’s just ready to die tonight

Why are you so confident that NAA is a villager? I haven't really paid any attention to his posts so just curious there.

Gut, mostly.

As he would say,

T o N e R e A d S

something about marmot’s involvement seems sus to me.

Most things will be tone until we get a wolf flip

I’m cool with this.
I’m still sus of Luckbox but both Luck and NAA seems like the ones trying to stay in the middle.

What makes you suss of me?

I should be suss of you know given that I was completely wrong about you last game. But what are your thoughts on me exactly and how can I read you?

[Gavial]

So yeah I'm a villager. If I'm actually under the microscope today then I'll try to do more as I do actually have a little time...but can someone explain why we want to kill a wolf specifically today now? And it doesn't actually matter if I'm mislynched either I assume?

Nor sure why people think I'm wolfy although I get I haven't done much.

It’s more like your not overly Townie or overly wolfy and fit nicely in the middle. A position that a wolf would want to be in for this setup.

[Gavial]

I’d say the best way to read me is watch how I say/do stuff, how genuine do I sound and how LAMIST am I? Because I’m a bit over LAMIST as Wolf. Least I usually am.

[Luckbox Inc]

So yeah I'm a villager. If I'm actually under the microscope today then I'll try to do more as I do actually have a little time...but can someone explain why we want to kill a wolf specifically today now? And it doesn't actually matter if I'm mislynched either I assume?

Nor sure why people think I'm wolfy although I get I haven't done much.

It’s more like your not overly Townie or overly wolfy and fit nicely in the middle. A position that a wolf would want to be in for this setup.

that's just a coincidence though

[Luckbox Inc]

I’m feeling pretty confident Doom is bad tho lol

probably completely NAI I'll guess

[Ruri]

Mafia is just offing those obvtown. Leaves lurky players for late-game. My original suggestion is still a good one. Will be looking for mafia to vote for this phase, so as to prevent them from choosing their weakest link to win.

[Ruri]

[VOTE: NNA] aubergine

[Scotty]

I have a theory that’s been forming:

Wolves are the ones lying low and not pushing too many varied reads/ keeping a tight ship, so that they won’t spew anyone when they do eventually get lynched.

In this theory, Gav and Wilgy are town.
Luckbox could be wolf.

If we lynch luck, and he’s wolf, we actually don’t learn a whole lot in the scheme of things. His activity has been married to following the path of least resistance and looking unaggressive.

you not calling me the most villagery person anymore makes me better about you fwiw

do you agree or disagree with my theory tho?

I think there could also be a try-hardy wolf (someone like Marmot I guess-- although really I haven't been reading so I've missed a bunch of posts)-- but if a bunch of villagers are doing little then it makes sense that wolves would be playing the same.

Yeah I’m actually not voting NAA because I TR them FYI Scotty.
I’m voting them basically because of this and the fact both them and Luck seemed to be trying to receive the middle position and that in itself makes them both good choices for today as both have a decent chance of flipping wolf so we can avoid the wolves from being in a good position for late game.

That’s fair. Despite being one of the top posters, NAA’s involvement can be broken down to
-removing negative utilities
-stapling papers with the word ‘angleshooter’ to telephone poles
-bringing the taste of the rainbow

I guess what I’m saying is NAA is a leprechaun
-

[Scotty]

I think it’s better to remove one potential “Deep” sorta wolf or more like “middle” wolf today and then see who’s kill during the night to get a better clear idea where the wolves probably are.

Agreed, because if we can remove that ‘not sure’ towny player, we can learn more from their posts than one towing the line.

If Axe is indeed town like I suspect, I’m just waiting in anticipation of who mafia will want to kill.

[Luckbox Inc]

[VOTE: NNA] aubergine

I'll probably vote NNA with you but do you have a rationale for it?

[Scotty]

Mafia is just offing those obvtown. Leaves lurky players for late-game. My original suggestion is still a good one. Will be looking for mafia to vote for this phase, so as to prevent them from choosing their weakest link to win.

Wait I’m confused what you’re saying here.
What was your original suggestion? Are you saying you’re voting NAA because he’s top of your potential mafia list and we should be voting scummiest players?

[Scotty]

We really should be making mafia kill their own this night phase, giving an obv town more time to talk d4, as opposed to mafia getting a free pass today, killing obv town tonight, and losing a potential helpful voice. Scummiest player should not be voted out today.

Maybe Marmot should be the chop today for that reason.

Marmot and Wilgy wanted my head for a while now, and I can’t actually remember what reads NAA has pushed

[Scotty]

Ok besides a lot of NAA’s d1 posts calling me bad, we get this:

Yeah still not a whole lot going on. I guess no one wants to to use up their allotted posts too soon.

I volunteer to be killed today. I'm a villager and won't be super active

Scotty is the mafia, are you his partner?

What say you about Ruri outright voting me for no reason today?

I don't think putting a vote on someone beginning of day 1 is that unusual. I don't do it but I know a lot of people do including you voting for tsp. What say you about it? Or maybe a good question is what does ruri have to say about it?

Why are you responding on my behalf?

Why did you change the text in scotty's post to make it seem like that's what I did? He was asking it to anyone.

Also, drunk scotty posts are amusing.

I changed nothing, why are you arguing with me, we're on the same team, aren't we?

Tmi?

[Scotty]

Also, Falcon is an anti-town player, best to get him out.

Hmm NAA was the originator of the falcon lynch as far as I can tell. Fine look, but getting a town lynched on d1 doesn’t give extreme cred, because they as populous as bunnies.

Not buying Gavial at all. Sonny aside, not everyone here can be genuine dumbtelling

Then don’t “buy” me.
You shouldn’t TR me for misinformation anyway that’s borderline Null and not a valid reason to TR someone.

I wouldn’t buy you, I’d probably be gifted you by my mom.

Which, listen, you’re better than socks. And you’re super shiny.

I’d call that a bargain my dude

LOL WTF IS THIS

I am not killing Scotty this game, if only for the comedic value. Him being scum is just an added benefit.

He’s not personally killing me this game, huh?
More openwolfing? Maybe

[Scotty]

@Scotty I think the appropriate scum strat is to just kill off townies all day every day, and leave an ambiguous finale? I think it's basically impossible for mafia to win this otherwise barring a ridiculous performance by ALL members of the mafia?

The issue for mafia is they all have to die right? So N3 & N5 have to be used to kill off scum players who suck, voting out the good scum players during the day is just bad play for mafia and probably the only way they lose.

Ok, this post is very well thought out, which is NAI but he is NAA, which is only a letter away from NAI, so it’s probably NAI BUT IT COULD BE NAH

[Scotty]

In conclusion I’m going to work, but in my iso of NAA I’m less bullish on him being town.

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

[Luckbox Inc]

We really should be making mafia kill their own this night phase, giving an obv town more time to talk d4, as opposed to mafia getting a free pass today, killing obv town tonight, and losing a potential helpful voice. Scummiest player should not be voted out today.

Maybe Marmot should be the chop today for that reason.

Marmot and Wilgy wanted my head for a while now, and I can’t actually remember what reads NAA has pushed

the first part seems reasonable

[Scotty]

We really should be making mafia kill their own this night phase, giving an obv town more time to talk d4, as opposed to mafia getting a free pass today, killing obv town tonight, and losing a potential helpful voice. Scummiest player should not be voted out today.

Maybe Marmot should be the chop today for that reason.

Marmot and Wilgy wanted my head for a while now, and I can’t actually remember what reads NAA has pushed

the first part seems reasonable

But not the second part?

If you stand for nothing, Burr, what'll you fall for?

[Gavial]

In conclusion I’m going to work, but in my iso of NAA I’m less bullish on him being town.

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

No we yeet him tomorrow!

[Gavial]

Marmot is the Obv town that should Yeet on the day where it’s important to yeet Town!

[Ruri]

Mafia is just offing those obvtown. Leaves lurky players for late-game. My original suggestion is still a good one. Will be looking for mafia to vote for this phase, so as to prevent them from choosing their weakest link to win.

Wait I’m confused what you’re saying here.
What was your original suggestion? Are you saying you’re voting NAA because he’s top of your potential mafia list and we should be voting scummiest players?

Just checked the list of options. Haven't been seeing much of the game, but I don't remember NAA's posts.

[ignoramus]

If we're going the vote a town route, I'm voting Dolby
If we're going the vote a mafia route, I think I'm voting Scotty
Still unsure on Scotty but he's the strongest mafia read I got rn