The Elder Scrolls [GAME OVER]

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Who is Molag Bal's Champion?

Poll ended at Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:00 pm

DaisyCloud
0
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Enrique / Vulgard
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No votes
Gavial
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Long Con
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Timsup2nothin
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TonyStarkPrime
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No elimination
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The Adoring Fan (Host/dead/non-players)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 5]

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Scotty wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 10:53 am So I did a perusal of gavial.

I was wrong about a few things.

First of all, his reads haven’t been too inconsistent. When he puts out reads, they’re on a linear path. Sure, they’re all based on astrological charts or some shit but the progression is there.

If he’s a wolf, he’s walking a fine line- I do see an angle.
See, he started with this stupid D1 wheel. This sets up the precedent to invalidate a lot of his opinions down the line. That he continues to lolvote based on the wheel past D1 confirms this.
He firmly reads falcon as scum D1 all the way until falcon is lynched. That’s some hardcore bussing. He also loves his lists of team makeups, and Mac started getting added d2. D2 had: “falcon/mac/Flanders team. Book it” rule of 3 be damned, he included 2/3. That’s ballsy.

if gavial is a wolf, he’s perpetually calling out his partners, but because he mixes them in with others that aren’t bad and also gives no real cases on why they’re bad, who would take him seriously? It’s a viable play, I guess. The WIFOM is so strong that he’s spilled the wine all over the table.

If he is town, he is doing nothing to further the town, built no legit cases on anyone. “But I called out the teams multiple times!” You also have lumped in most people to those teams more than that. Just because a broken clock is right twice a day doesn’t mean I’m gonna follow that clock when prepping a pie in the oven.

I think Gav is the 3p, and at best, mafia. I don’t think we’d miss him if he were to be lynched.
I mean if it’s MYLO/LYLO you’d be missing the chance to win. (Assuming your town)
Because MLing me results in town lost at that point.
Plus I got a watcher check tonight.
Just vote Vulgard tbh.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 5]

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I’m more confident in Vulgard then Radish but I wouldn’t entirely oppose to a Radish yeet but I’m gonna stay on Vulgard here.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 5]

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Gavial wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 10:58 am I’m more confident in Vulgard then Radish but I wouldn’t entirely oppose to a Radish yeet but I’m gonna stay on Vulgard here.
Remind me of your case on Vulgard or else why you are voting them?
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Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 5]

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@KZA
Foo I’m town.
Be productive and vote someone who actually might be scum!
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Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 5]

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Scotty wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 10:59 am
Gavial wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 10:58 am I’m more confident in Vulgard then Radish but I wouldn’t entirely oppose to a Radish yeet but I’m gonna stay on Vulgard here.
Remind me of your case on Vulgard or else why you are voting them?
I GTG Ping me later and I’ll re-inform you.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 5]

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Gavial wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 10:59 am @KZA
Foo I’m town.
Be productive and vote someone who actually might be scum!
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Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 5]

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DaisyCloud wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 8:53 am heads up im a nervous wreck. I have an interview in about 2hrs and im prepping. I will try to be here and scum hunt and everything but I can't focus. that is mainly why I was inactive yesterday. hopefully it goes well and I can focus on the game after the interview
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Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 5]

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[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine
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Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 5]

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We tied. 3-3-3-3

Thems pretty numbers
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Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 5]

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Scotty wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 11:19 am We tied. 3-3-3-3

Thems pretty numbers
Visually appealing, but let's appreciate it and then move on to consolidation.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 5]

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Long Con wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 11:47 am
Scotty wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 11:19 am We tied. 3-3-3-3

Thems pretty numbers
Visually appealing, but let's appreciate it and then move on to consolidation.
If prefer if the 3 no-votes did something with their vote 1st
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Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 5]

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I don’t know what to do. 😭
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Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 5]

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I’d like to imagine KZA has a better bird’s eye view of the game than us, since they’re no longer entrenched. So a part of me wants to follow suit with that lead.

This whole game is a session of self-doubt. I just want to successfully get a read right before I get NK’d
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Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 5]

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Let's ask the dead villagers for reads.

Who was the role that allowed a dead villager to vote each day? It could've guided us.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 5]

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Vulgard wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 11:56 am Let's ask the dead villagers for reads.

Who was the role that allowed a dead villager to vote each day? It could've guided us.
Made..killed last night
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Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 5]

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You could say that kill made the game more difficult.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 5]

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Another thing that is making this game difficult is as we get lower in numbers all I want to do is get an edge wherever I can, and I’m starting to resort to angleshooting. And I don’t know what to do about that. It’s frankly pissing me off
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Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 5]

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Vulgard wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 12:02 pm You could say that kill made the game more difficult.
:suspish:
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Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 5]

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Scotty wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 12:02 pm Another thing that is making this game difficult is as we get lower in numbers all I want to do is get an edge wherever I can, and I’m starting to resort to angleshooting. And I don’t know what to do about that. It’s frankly pissing me off
I really think LC is a hit. I really, really do.

But I'll look like a clown if I'm wrong, and I know I'm town. That's why I'm trying to vote with my townreads.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 5]

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[VOTE: lostmonkey] aubergine

Anxiously awaiting you to come back into this game
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Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 5]

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Vulgard wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 12:04 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 12:02 pm Another thing that is making this game difficult is as we get lower in numbers all I want to do is get an edge wherever I can, and I’m starting to resort to angleshooting. And I don’t know what to do about that. It’s frankly pissing me off
I really think LC is a hit. I really, really do.

But I'll look like a clown if I'm wrong, and I know I'm town. That's why I'm trying to vote with my townreads.
LC has been sus of you and looking your way since d4.
I’d normally just say ya he’s probably omgus’ing you, but he’s followed this line.
Meanwhile you came to your conclusion on him later, so yours looks more advantageous
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Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 5]

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Ugh I’m with jack.

I hate this game
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Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 5]

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Scotty wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 12:11 pm
Vulgard wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 12:04 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 12:02 pm Another thing that is making this game difficult is as we get lower in numbers all I want to do is get an edge wherever I can, and I’m starting to resort to angleshooting. And I don’t know what to do about that. It’s frankly pissing me off
I really think LC is a hit. I really, really do.

But I'll look like a clown if I'm wrong, and I know I'm town. That's why I'm trying to vote with my townreads.
LC has been sus of you and looking your way since d4.
I’d normally just say ya he’s probably omgus’ing you, but he’s followed this line.
Meanwhile you came to your conclusion on him later, so yours looks more advantageous
I'm not sure what you mean by this part - does Vulgard have the advantage, or is he taking advantage...?
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Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 5]

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Scotty wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 12:12 pm Ugh I’m with jack.

I hate this game
In my heart of hearts, I think you are a wolf, Scotty. Don't Final 3 with me if you are.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 5]

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Long Con wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 12:14 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 12:11 pm
Vulgard wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 12:04 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 12:02 pm Another thing that is making this game difficult is as we get lower in numbers all I want to do is get an edge wherever I can, and I’m starting to resort to angleshooting. And I don’t know what to do about that. It’s frankly pissing me off
I really think LC is a hit. I really, really do.

But I'll look like a clown if I'm wrong, and I know I'm town. That's why I'm trying to vote with my townreads.
LC has been sus of you and looking your way since d4.
I’d normally just say ya he’s probably omgus’ing you, but he’s followed this line.
Meanwhile you came to your conclusion on him later, so yours looks more advantageous
I'm not sure what you mean by this part - does Vulgard have the advantage, or is he taking advantage...?
Synonymous with opportunistic
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Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 5]

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Long Con wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 12:15 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 12:12 pm Ugh I’m with jack.

I hate this game
In my heart of hearts, I think you are a wolf, Scotty. Don't Final 3 with me if you are.
How about in your jack hearts
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Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 5]

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Scotty wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 12:27 pm
Long Con wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 12:15 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 12:12 pm Ugh I’m with jack.

I hate this game
In my heart of hearts, I think you are a wolf, Scotty. Don't Final 3 with me if you are.
How about in your jack hearts
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Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 5]

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Scotty wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 12:27 pm
Long Con wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 12:15 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 12:12 pm Ugh I’m with jack.

I hate this game
In my heart of hearts, I think you are a wolf, Scotty. Don't Final 3 with me if you are.
How about in your jack of hearts
I'm keeping One Eye on him. ;)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 5]

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Long Con wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 12:15 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 12:12 pm Ugh I’m with jack.

I hate this game
In my heart of hearts, I think you are a wolf, Scotty. Don't Final 3 with me if you are.
Also I don’t know if you’re joking or not with this but if you think I’m going to final 3 in any capacity with the way I’m playing, you’re being disingenuous.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 5]

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Scotty wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 12:28 pm
Long Con wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 12:15 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 12:12 pm Ugh I’m with jack.

I hate this game
In my heart of hearts, I think you are a wolf, Scotty. Don't Final 3 with me if you are.
Also I don’t know if you’re joking or not with this but if you think I’m going to final 3 in any capacity with the way I’m playing, you’re being disingenuous.
It was said in a vacuum I guess, not as a holistic gamestate analysis. I just tinfoil you, my gut has told me multiple times that you're bad despite some good feels. Let's hope the game doesn't have to reach that point either way.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 5]

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Oh, by the way. There's a mechanical problem.
If I survive today, I don't know what to do. My options are all negative utility in this gamestate like the jailkeep on Gavial.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 3]

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I know I’m flitting around a lot this phase, but it’s time to revisit jack.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 2:31 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 12:39 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 12:34 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 12:20 pm I feel like I caught jack in a web, and falcon is also slipping into that web.

If your supatown read is KZA, you should trust that Made is also town, not backpedal like jack or flat out be fine with made’s lynch like falcon
I totally forgot Kaz has a green check on Made. I am smrt
How do you forget that. You even quoted that post 12 hours ago.

It can be easy to forget who is confirmed town if you know who the town already is
Congrats, Scotty. You caught two wolves who both forgot the same green peek. :haha:

Now let’s get serious. Talk more about Marmot.
What if? I did catch falcon forgetting this read, and then also suspected jack for missing it too.

Why do we townread jacks again?
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Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 3]

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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 10:54 pm So I’m somewhere like


Townread
KZA
Bo
Mac
Made
Falcon

Townlean (these reads are all stupid)
Kyle
Scotty
Tony
LC

???
Enrique
Nacho (yeet if Daisy is a wolf)
Marmot
Quin
anyone else if forgotten

Scumread
Tim
Flanders
Daisy
D3. Look at that sexy list. Jack, I know neither of us have had good reads but damn
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Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 5]

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That list may be TOO awful to come from a wolf.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 5]

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Jack > falcon
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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 11:54 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 10:16 pm Fwiw I really like nacho’s entrance. I feel like he just started playing- we’re playing twister and it’s back foot green and we’re both jockeying for that spot!
Yeah, he feels town. Which is another minor hole in my Daisy suspicion.

I’m
Pondering the likelihood of a world where Daisy and Tim are town and Marmot and Flanders are not.

Need to work out in my head who another three wolves would be with that.
I’m gonna work out in my head a world in which I’m just tunneling you (with apparently daisy) since I’m apparently wrong about your guilt according to *everyone else*

How do you see falcon fitting in to that arrangement?
Idk.

I’ve felt Falcon has had a good tone all game but idk if I’ve seen their scum game ever. Falcon briefly pursued the “yeet someone I think is town” strategy but he got off it pretty damn quick in a way that felt not like a wolf backpedaling.
Falcon meh
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 12:59 pm
Vulgard wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 8:55 am Nachomamma's ISO I could best describe as inoffensive. There's nothing in it that definitively told me they have no TMI. But it is not a dumpster fire and I do not want to kill this yet.

Falcon's ISO is a step below that. He spent most of the game pushing LHF. The push on Marmot is especially notable because he's tunneled on it hard. If Marmot's mafia, then this looks better for him, but I currently don't think Marmot's a wolf.
Vibbing with these reads.
Falcon meh
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 1:23 pm Idk who I wanna yeet but if I did, it would probably be Tim.

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Vul
Tony
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Kyle
Radishes
Falcon
Nacho
Monkey
Tim

I hate this list.
Falcon somewhere on bottom
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 6:29 pm Let’s go @Kylemii

Tim yeet. Maybe Falcon tomorrow
Falcon not priority
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 6:35 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 6:34 pm vote for falcon or you're a wolf it's as easy as that
Falcon has less votes than Tim and one is Nacho.

Is there a case for why Falcon over Tim?
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 6:37 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 6:36 pm maybe I'm thinking about this completely wrong
From a strategic standpoint, yeah.

Falcon could still be a wolf but if only 1 or 2 townies are voting there....
Falcon maaaaybe but doubtful
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 6:39 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 6:37 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 6:36 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 6:35 pm the marmot wagon probably has four towns which I think makes marmot significantly more likely to be town
If everyone on the Marmot wagon AND Marmot are town, who is your poe?
the falcon wagon, falcon, vulgard, maybe you
Lol 4/5 of Kyle/Falcon/Nacho/Vulgard/Jack.

Jesus, Tony. I think you got probably 2-3 wolves on that list.
Casting doubt on falcon wagon
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 6:53 pm I’ll vote Falcon if Tim will.
Vote for falcon...if your top scum read...will? This makes absolutely no sense
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 8:37 pm Like I didn’t see a Tim fighting his ass off to get Falcon chopped. Not even close. I saw a Tim hoping Tim would run out and a Marmot yeet would go through.
Nor you, lol
Something doesn’t add up with Jack’s vote do falcon. This could absolutely be a bus
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Long Con wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 12:54 pm That list may be TOO awful to come from a wolf.
Maybe. It does seem too awful
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Vulgard wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 12:43 pm Oh, by the way. There's a mechanical problem.
If I survive today, I don't know what to do. My options are all negative utility in this gamestate like the jailkeep on Gavial.
I don’t understand this, but I’m sure you have options. The design wouldn’t be that damning
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Scotty wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 10:21 am At this point, based on what Vulgard posted, he’s got no read on MR and it is purely a self pres. they could still be aligned
If Radishes flips red I will defend Vulgard and probably just follow his reads. I don't think that TWO wolves case Falcon and wind up voting me...that's a wolf and a town that the wolf wants to look like.
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Scotty wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 12:46 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 10:54 pm So I’m somewhere like


Townread
KZA
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Mac
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Falcon

Townlean (these reads are all stupid)
Kyle
Scotty
Tony
LC

???
Enrique
Nacho (yeet if Daisy is a wolf)
Marmot
Quin
anyone else if forgotten

Scumread
Tim
Flanders
Daisy
D3. Look at that sexy list. Jack, I know neither of us have had good reads but damn
Yeah, but I turned around on two of the townies at the bottom and one wolf at the top because I am very smart.
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Vulgard wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 12:43 pm Oh, by the way. There's a mechanical problem.
If I survive today, I don't know what to do. My options are all negative utility in this gamestate like the jailkeep on Gavial.
What are they? Maybe we can brainstorm a creative way to use one beneficially.

I am starting to look for benefits in leaving you and Radish to twist in the wind. I'm getting more and more locked in on one, and only one, of you being a wolf. That leaves two other wolves out in the wild. Rather than take the 50/50/90 between you and Radish, there may be merit in trying to bang out some other wolf that could resolve the issue between the two of you for us.

Now I want to clarify something that I think we as town are largely looking at wrong. The "wolf PR" line of thinking. Falcon should not be treated as a wolf PR. He held the Razor. That was his main thing. He had some other power (I haven't checked back to see what it is) but I am sure the bulk of his power was the Razor and the wolves didn't lose that. So if the wagons came down to Falcon v another wolf (Marmot?) and that wolf was a serious power that would be lost then, yeah, Falcon can just die, bet hellbussed for cred, take his low posting low effort wolf carcass and go.
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Scotty wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 12:57 pm Jack > falcon
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Scotty wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 12:43 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 11:55 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 11:54 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 10:16 pm Fwiw I really like nacho’s entrance. I feel like he just started playing- we’re playing twister and it’s back foot green and we’re both jockeying for that spot!
Yeah, he feels town. Which is another minor hole in my Daisy suspicion.

I’m
Pondering the likelihood of a world where Daisy and Tim are town and Marmot and Flanders are not.

Need to work out in my head who another three wolves would be with that.
I’m gonna work out in my head a world in which I’m just tunneling you (with apparently daisy) since I’m apparently wrong about your guilt according to *everyone else*

How do you see falcon fitting in to that arrangement?
Idk.

I’ve felt Falcon has had a good tone all game but idk if I’ve seen their scum game ever. Falcon briefly pursued the “yeet someone I think is town” strategy but he got off it pretty damn quick in a way that felt not like a wolf backpedaling.
Falcon meh
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 12:59 pm
Vulgard wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 8:55 am Nachomamma's ISO I could best describe as inoffensive. There's nothing in it that definitively told me they have no TMI. But it is not a dumpster fire and I do not want to kill this yet.

Falcon's ISO is a step below that. He spent most of the game pushing LHF. The push on Marmot is especially notable because he's tunneled on it hard. If Marmot's mafia, then this looks better for him, but I currently don't think Marmot's a wolf.
Vibbing with these reads.
Falcon meh
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 1:23 pm Idk who I wanna yeet but if I did, it would probably be Tim.

Made
Scotty
Daisy
Marmot
Vul
Tony
Gavil
LC
Kyle
Radishes
Falcon
Nacho
Monkey
Tim

I hate this list.
Falcon somewhere on bottom
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 6:29 pm Let’s go @Kylemii

Tim yeet. Maybe Falcon tomorrow
Falcon not priority
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 6:35 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 6:34 pm vote for falcon or you're a wolf it's as easy as that
Falcon has less votes than Tim and one is Nacho.

Is there a case for why Falcon over Tim?
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 6:37 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 6:36 pm maybe I'm thinking about this completely wrong
From a strategic standpoint, yeah.

Falcon could still be a wolf but if only 1 or 2 townies are voting there....
Falcon maaaaybe but doubtful
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 6:39 pm
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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 6:36 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 6:35 pm the marmot wagon probably has four towns which I think makes marmot significantly more likely to be town
If everyone on the Marmot wagon AND Marmot are town, who is your poe?
the falcon wagon, falcon, vulgard, maybe you
Lol 4/5 of Kyle/Falcon/Nacho/Vulgard/Jack.

Jesus, Tony. I think you got probably 2-3 wolves on that list.
Casting doubt on falcon wagon
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 6:53 pm I’ll vote Falcon if Tim will.
Vote for falcon...if your top scum read...will? This makes absolutely no sense
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 8:37 pm Like I didn’t see a Tim fighting his ass off to get Falcon chopped. Not even close. I saw a Tim hoping Tim would run out and a Marmot yeet would go through.
Nor you, lol
Something doesn’t add up with Jack’s vote do falcon. This could absolutely be a bus
You’re misinterpreting a couple things here.

First off, the vote count when I asked people to move off Falcon and only Tim were like

Marmot (strong townread) - Scotty (absent), Vulgard (absent), Long Con? (absent, not trusted), Tim (not trusted)

Falcon (scumread, partly by scummy behavior and partly by poe) - Nacho (absent, not trusted), Tony (present townread), Kyle (present townread)

Tim (biggest scumread) - Jack, Radishes? (townlean at the time iirc but not present), someone else

So I came in an hour from eod and saw probably a townie being yeeted over probably two wolves and if there was just one wolf, it was Tim. So I pinged iirc the four townreads I had who were present. Marmot(off wagon), Daisy (off wagon?), Tony (Falcon) and Kyle (Falcon) to consolidate to yeet preferably Tim but at least Falcon over Marmot.

Kyle and Tony refused to move to Tim and stated they basically hasn’t read my case on him because it was too long (it was probably wrong anywho). So I was very frustrated by this and voted Falcon while encouraging Daisy and Marmot to do the same because I genuinely wanted to yeet Falcon over Marmot if those were my two choices.

You’re worried you’re seeing me try to move votes from w!Falcon to t!Tim. What you’re seeing is me try to move present townreads to one wagon on a player I suspected. First, Tim and when that failed, Falcon. This caused Falcon to go over instead of Marmot. Maybe Tony would have consolidated those votes without me. Idk.
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Tony says 4 wolves here Kyle/Falcon/Nacho/Vulgard/Jack.
Jack says no, 2-3 wolves.
Scotty says that is Jack defending Falcon.
But if you look at Jack’s readlist, it’s
Jack
Vulgard
Kyle
Falcon/Nacho.

So I’m not defending Falcon. I’m agreeing Falcon is likely a wolf.
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Scotty says Jack says “Vote for falcon...if your top scum read...will?” wrt me wanting Tim to vote Falcon instead of Marmot. “This makes absolutely no sense”

That’s me trying to consolidate votes. I was voting for Tim. Tim was voting for Marmot. I think Falcon and Tim are wolves and Marmot is town.

Town Tim (in theory) will be willing to switch from town Marmot to wolf Falcon. Wolf Tim (in theory) will be willing to do the same so as to look townie, especially if he’s worried Falcon will flip anyway without his vote, making him look super scummy.

So in theory, making this proposition protects a townread (Marmot) and a wolfread (Tim) to ensure the death of a wolfread (Falcon).

It’s not a nonsensical stall. It’s me trying to save a townie and yeet a wolf which, in the end, I did.
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NGL, I want Radish to be the wolf so I can just sheep Vulgard...
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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 1:57 pm Scotty says Jack says “Vote for falcon...if your top scum read...will?” wrt me wanting Tim to vote Falcon instead of Marmot. “This makes absolutely no sense”

That’s me trying to consolidate votes. I was voting for Tim. Tim was voting for Marmot. I think Falcon and Tim are wolves and Marmot is town.

Town Tim (in theory) will be willing to switch from town Marmot to wolf Falcon. Wolf Tim (in theory) will be willing to do the same so as to look townie, especially if he’s worried Falcon will flip anyway without his vote, making him look super scummy.

So in theory, making this proposition protects a townread (Marmot) and a wolfread (Tim) to ensure the death of a wolfread (Falcon).

It’s not a nonsensical stall. It’s me trying to save a townie and yeet a wolf which, in the end, I did.
What if Marmot was a wolf all along tho?
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Timsup2nothin wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 1:20 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 10:21 am At this point, based on what Vulgard posted, he’s got no read on MR and it is purely a self pres. they could still be aligned
If Radishes flips red I will defend Vulgard and probably just follow his reads. I don't think that TWO wolves case Falcon and wind up voting me...that's a wolf and a town that the wolf wants to look like.
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Timsup2nothin wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 1:58 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 1:57 pm Scotty says Jack says “Vote for falcon...if your top scum read...will?” wrt me wanting Tim to vote Falcon instead of Marmot. “This makes absolutely no sense”

That’s me trying to consolidate votes. I was voting for Tim. Tim was voting for Marmot. I think Falcon and Tim are wolves and Marmot is town.

Town Tim (in theory) will be willing to switch from town Marmot to wolf Falcon. Wolf Tim (in theory) will be willing to do the same so as to look townie, especially if he’s worried Falcon will flip anyway without his vote, making him look super scummy.

So in theory, making this proposition protects a townread (Marmot) and a wolfread (Tim) to ensure the death of a wolfread (Falcon).

It’s not a nonsensical stall. It’s me trying to save a townie and yeet a wolf which, in the end, I did.
What if Marmot was a wolf all along tho?
Well then I’m an even bigger idiot and Marmot did exactly what I was trying to make you do.

But I don’t think so. Mac’s treatment of Marmot is suicide for no good reason if they’re partnered.
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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 2:03 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 1:58 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 1:57 pm Scotty says Jack says “Vote for falcon...if your top scum read...will?” wrt me wanting Tim to vote Falcon instead of Marmot. “This makes absolutely no sense”

That’s me trying to consolidate votes. I was voting for Tim. Tim was voting for Marmot. I think Falcon and Tim are wolves and Marmot is town.

Town Tim (in theory) will be willing to switch from town Marmot to wolf Falcon. Wolf Tim (in theory) will be willing to do the same so as to look townie, especially if he’s worried Falcon will flip anyway without his vote, making him look super scummy.

So in theory, making this proposition protects a townread (Marmot) and a wolfread (Tim) to ensure the death of a wolfread (Falcon).

It’s not a nonsensical stall. It’s me trying to save a townie and yeet a wolf which, in the end, I did.
What if Marmot was a wolf all along tho?
Well then I’m an even bigger idiot and Marmot did exactly what I was trying to make you do.

But I don’t think so. Mac’s treatment of Marmot is suicide for no good reason if they’re partnered.
how would you describe "Mac's treatment of Marmot"?
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Scotty wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 12:57 pm Jack > falcon
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Scotty wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 12:43 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 11:55 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 11:54 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 10:16 pm Fwiw I really like nacho’s entrance. I feel like he just started playing- we’re playing twister and it’s back foot green and we’re both jockeying for that spot!
Yeah, he feels town. Which is another minor hole in my Daisy suspicion.

I’m
Pondering the likelihood of a world where Daisy and Tim are town and Marmot and Flanders are not.

Need to work out in my head who another three wolves would be with that.
I’m gonna work out in my head a world in which I’m just tunneling you (with apparently daisy) since I’m apparently wrong about your guilt according to *everyone else*

How do you see falcon fitting in to that arrangement?
Idk.

I’ve felt Falcon has had a good tone all game but idk if I’ve seen their scum game ever. Falcon briefly pursued the “yeet someone I think is town” strategy but he got off it pretty damn quick in a way that felt not like a wolf backpedaling.
Falcon meh
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 12:59 pm
Vulgard wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 8:55 am Nachomamma's ISO I could best describe as inoffensive. There's nothing in it that definitively told me they have no TMI. But it is not a dumpster fire and I do not want to kill this yet.

Falcon's ISO is a step below that. He spent most of the game pushing LHF. The push on Marmot is especially notable because he's tunneled on it hard. If Marmot's mafia, then this looks better for him, but I currently don't think Marmot's a wolf.
Vibbing with these reads.
Falcon meh
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 1:23 pm Idk who I wanna yeet but if I did, it would probably be Tim.

Made
Scotty
Daisy
Marmot
Vul
Tony
Gavil
LC
Kyle
Radishes
Falcon
Nacho
Monkey
Tim

I hate this list.
Falcon somewhere on bottom
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 6:29 pm Let’s go @Kylemii

Tim yeet. Maybe Falcon tomorrow
Falcon not priority
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 6:35 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 6:34 pm vote for falcon or you're a wolf it's as easy as that
Falcon has less votes than Tim and one is Nacho.

Is there a case for why Falcon over Tim?
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 6:37 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 6:36 pm maybe I'm thinking about this completely wrong
From a strategic standpoint, yeah.

Falcon could still be a wolf but if only 1 or 2 townies are voting there....
Falcon maaaaybe but doubtful
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 6:39 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 6:37 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 6:36 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 6:35 pm the marmot wagon probably has four towns which I think makes marmot significantly more likely to be town
If everyone on the Marmot wagon AND Marmot are town, who is your poe?
the falcon wagon, falcon, vulgard, maybe you
Lol 4/5 of Kyle/Falcon/Nacho/Vulgard/Jack.

Jesus, Tony. I think you got probably 2-3 wolves on that list.
Casting doubt on falcon wagon
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 6:53 pm I’ll vote Falcon if Tim will.
Vote for falcon...if your top scum read...will? This makes absolutely no sense
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 8:37 pm Like I didn’t see a Tim fighting his ass off to get Falcon chopped. Not even close. I saw a Tim hoping Tim would run out and a Marmot yeet would go through.
Nor you, lol
Something doesn’t add up with Jack’s vote do falcon. This could absolutely be a bus
I mean I’m telling you there scum but you clearly don’t like my Playstyle at all!
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