Modern Family Hydra Mafia [GAME END]

[Bottom Text]

if katze and seth randed wolf together i will laugh for the rest of my life

start laughing

Spoiler: show

cause chloe randed W with seth in her first two wolf games
watching it and talking to her/feeling it throug her; i'd probably hellbus them without a single shroud of doubt and esooa would not be able to stop me

obviously though this is just wifom im going to defend him all game glgl

[Akemi Hazelnut]

obviously though this is just wifom im going to defend him all game glgl

[TwoAndThrough]

obviously though this is just wifom im going to defend him all game glgl

Arrrrrrgggggghhhhhh!!!!!!!!!

Tim

[trans rights]

On second thoughts, not providing a thought on the vote triangle is mildly wolfy i guess

What was I supposed to think about the vote triangle? I think it was unusual, and I made that pretty clear. I actually don't recall seeing that before. With no previous experience of it I have no earthly idea what to make of it. I think what makes it unusual is that it's kind of typical for people to think the person voting them might be a wolf, and that someone voting for that person could be right in doing so...or at the least take kind of an unconscious "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" path. So generally when you have someone voting you and then someone votes for them the reaction is to pile on, not make a triangle. But as I said I am not claiming to "know what it means," I'm just doing my usual drift through day one and noted an oddity.

Of course, my usual drift through day one has all the usual complainers complaining. The people who throw random "reads" based on whatever feelie they get from some obscure bit of wording want me to do the same, and since I don't they cry wolf. The people who want to ascribe some deep meaning to "they opened with a copy pasta" when the player most likely always opens with a copy pasta are upset that I am not having a deeply meaningful conversation about the copy pasta, and they cry wolf. Syn is no doubt gonna death tunnel me again because he is always crying wolf when I come around. It's just another day one in the life.

So here's the deal. I'm town. As I just showed in Nanook's game, if you give me some flips to work with I will happily solve the game and die. I know no one is gonna let me end game. No one should ever let me end game. But at this point I think you should start looking at why so many people are willing to say "oh, one of them misspelled first in their matching one word entry posts...that's a wolf tell for sure" or whatever dumb nonsense is being pitched here. Because somewhere in there are the usual opportunists thinking that this time...finally this time...they are gonna be the wolves that get a day one chop on me.

newsflash my friend

that's like the only productive thing you've done all game, so of course if your only observation is a complete nothingburger, you're not going to get a good response. your only other contributions have been some read on the falconknows slot with... not even sure if that was serious because you were answering for someone else and the answer wasn't even definitive, and you engaging in with mist regarding a discussion of godreads. i won't disagree that godreads can be unreliable because i've seen many a godread be wrong before! but it seems like you were specifically taking the line to try and discredit mist when all she was doing was talking about how people can't reliably read her and the process required to be able to reliably read her.

mist clearly was not fishing for a "godread". who do you actually think would have a godread on mist in this game? hyena or something? no, what was actually happening was mist being annoyed about bottom text thinking they could read her when their read wasn't good.

So, you are wolf reading me because I engaged in a conversation? Is that the gist here?

this is such a misrep lol

~mawile

[Toopy and Binoo]

Looking at percentage wise of 13 Players.
Removing our hydra = 12 Players
Looking at 4/12 of the players I suspect to be Mafia:

Two and Through
TonyStarkPlaysItCool
Timsup2gettinserious
Poop Explosions

Here’s the percentage those for players contain:
3 Mafia - 23.4%
2 Mafia - 38.4%
1 Mafia - 36.9%
0 Mafia - 1.3%

-Toopy

[trans rights]

@trans rights do I need to bully you into townreading the Bo slot?

yes

~mawile

[Akemi Hazelnut]

Looking at percentage wise of 13 Players.
Removing our hydra = 12 Players
Looking at 4/12 of the players I suspect to be Mafia:

Two and Through
TonyStarkPlaysItCool
Timsup2gettinserious
Poop Explosions

Here’s the percentage those for players contain:
3 Mafia - 23.4%
2 Mafia - 38.4%
1 Mafia - 36.9%
0 Mafia - 1.3%

-Toopy

thank you very cool

[Bottom Text]

Looking at percentage wise of 13 Players.
Removing our hydra = 12 Players
Looking at 4/12 of the players I suspect to be Mafia:

Two and Through
TonyStarkPlaysItCool
Timsup2gettinserious
Poop Explosions

Here’s the percentage those for players contain:
3 Mafia - 23.4%
2 Mafia - 38.4%
1 Mafia - 36.9%
0 Mafia - 1.3%

-Toopy

i love you

[trans rights]

Looking at percentage wise of 13 Players.
Removing our hydra = 12 Players
Looking at 4/12 of the players I suspect to be Mafia:

Two and Through
TonyStarkPlaysItCool
Timsup2gettinserious
Poop Explosions

Here’s the percentage those for players contain:
3 Mafia - 23.4%
2 Mafia - 38.4%
1 Mafia - 36.9%
0 Mafia - 1.3%

-Toopy

what am i reading

~mawile

[TwoAndThrough]

Looking at percentage wise of 13 Players.
Removing our hydra = 12 Players
Looking at 4/12 of the players I suspect to be Mafia:

Two and Through
TonyStarkPlaysItCool
Timsup2gettinserious
Poop Explosions

Here’s the percentage those for players contain:
3 Mafia - 23.4%
2 Mafia - 38.4%
1 Mafia - 36.9%
0 Mafia - 1.3%

-Toopy

This is new. Usually we go for word salads. Sometimes a player salad, sometimes a read salad. This is the first time I remember that someone coughed up a number salad. Does this really mean anything at all?

[Akemi Hazelnut]

i think bo is towny so far but has had a couple good scum games recently tonewise. i wanna see supa falcon

[Bottom Text]

im dropping the shield on toopy/binoo i just love having them around

[VOTE: toopy and binoo] aubergine

[trans rights]

On second thoughts, not providing a thought on the vote triangle is mildly wolfy i guess

What was I supposed to think about the vote triangle? I think it was unusual, and I made that pretty clear. I actually don't recall seeing that before. With no previous experience of it I have no earthly idea what to make of it. I think what makes it unusual is that it's kind of typical for people to think the person voting them might be a wolf, and that someone voting for that person could be right in doing so...or at the least take kind of an unconscious "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" path. So generally when you have someone voting you and then someone votes for them the reaction is to pile on, not make a triangle. But as I said I am not claiming to "know what it means," I'm just doing my usual drift through day one and noted an oddity.

Of course, my usual drift through day one has all the usual complainers complaining. The people who throw random "reads" based on whatever feelie they get from some obscure bit of wording want me to do the same, and since I don't they cry wolf. The people who want to ascribe some deep meaning to "they opened with a copy pasta" when the player most likely always opens with a copy pasta are upset that I am not having a deeply meaningful conversation about the copy pasta, and they cry wolf. Syn is no doubt gonna death tunnel me again because he is always crying wolf when I come around. It's just another day one in the life.

So here's the deal. I'm town. As I just showed in Nanook's game, if you give me some flips to work with I will happily solve the game and die. I know no one is gonna let me end game. No one should ever let me end game. But at this point I think you should start looking at why so many people are willing to say "oh, one of them misspelled first in their matching one word entry posts...that's a wolf tell for sure" or whatever dumb nonsense is being pitched here. Because somewhere in there are the usual opportunists thinking that this time...finally this time...they are gonna be the wolves that get a day one chop on me.

Yes, it's a good thought to have but on the grand scheme of things but it's kind of a meaningless observation if you don't know, or don't at least have a thought of what it means

fwiw i think this post is a decent look for tspic. at this point it's obvious i had a similar thought process to tim's triangulation read on us/poop explosions/bottom text and how he didn't do anything with the read

/meta in cov, tim made a read on esooa early on regarding the townreads she was getting early on in the game based on her read on tim. he later made a post that, even though it gave him bad vibes, he couldn't find an agenda in it at all. this might be the same type of thing. throwing light shade onto something while not committing to the point where you're stepping on toes.

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

Looking at percentage wise of 13 Players.
Removing our hydra = 12 Players
Looking at 4/12 of the players I suspect to be Mafia:

Two and Through
TonyStarkPlaysItCool
Timsup2gettinserious
Poop Explosions

Here’s the percentage those for players contain:
3 Mafia - 23.4%
2 Mafia - 38.4%
1 Mafia - 36.9%
0 Mafia - 1.3%

-Toopy

Why do you suspect those four as mafia

[trans rights]

hyena is probably my most confident village read this game. it seems fairly clear to me that he's approaching the game from a solving perspective here.

~ninetales

[Poop Explosions]

So to preflip, what do you need? Confidence, right?

on a sidenote, i think julinook is a villager for nanook's push onto two and through. it's in the sweetspot where it probably isn't a bus if two and through is a wolf and i generally like the aggression and persistence of the read

i kinda get the feeling that there's a wolf in two and through and mana. again mana's vote on two and through is kinda bad regarding of the latter's alignment. they also went into commentary mode regarding my interactions with bottom text in a wolfy way. if mana is a wolf, bottom text is probably a villager i think.

The preflip on TAT is almost a "whoops I preflipped" preflip. Like you're barely supposed to notice van's already counting TAT as a pelt.

Up to now van's regularly called that one thing TAT did wolfy, but hasn't really gone past that. She clearly isn't sure on TAT in the second quote. She's already considering Nook spewed by TAT.

The Mana preflip has all the same problems. First of all, why the fuck does there even need to be a dichotomy again, especially when she says the reads have nothing to do with each other, and then again, the preflip on the unconfident scumread. She hedged on the read when it first came up too, saying it could be TWTBAW.

The whole thing just feels like she's putting worldbuilding in front of plain reads in an agenda'y way. Like, she's not diving headfirst all the way into either read, but she's playing with that plan in mind anyway.

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

On second thoughts, not providing a thought on the vote triangle is mildly wolfy i guess

What was I supposed to think about the vote triangle? I think it was unusual, and I made that pretty clear. I actually don't recall seeing that before. With no previous experience of it I have no earthly idea what to make of it. I think what makes it unusual is that it's kind of typical for people to think the person voting them might be a wolf, and that someone voting for that person could be right in doing so...or at the least take kind of an unconscious "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" path. So generally when you have someone voting you and then someone votes for them the reaction is to pile on, not make a triangle. But as I said I am not claiming to "know what it means," I'm just doing my usual drift through day one and noted an oddity.

Of course, my usual drift through day one has all the usual complainers complaining. The people who throw random "reads" based on whatever feelie they get from some obscure bit of wording want me to do the same, and since I don't they cry wolf. The people who want to ascribe some deep meaning to "they opened with a copy pasta" when the player most likely always opens with a copy pasta are upset that I am not having a deeply meaningful conversation about the copy pasta, and they cry wolf. Syn is no doubt gonna death tunnel me again because he is always crying wolf when I come around. It's just another day one in the life.

So here's the deal. I'm town. As I just showed in Nanook's game, if you give me some flips to work with I will happily solve the game and die. I know no one is gonna let me end game. No one should ever let me end game. But at this point I think you should start looking at why so many people are willing to say "oh, one of them misspelled first in their matching one word entry posts...that's a wolf tell for sure" or whatever dumb nonsense is being pitched here. Because somewhere in there are the usual opportunists thinking that this time...finally this time...they are gonna be the wolves that get a day one chop on me.

Yes, it's a good thought to have but on the grand scheme of things but it's kind of a meaningless observation if you don't know, or don't at least have a thought of what it means

fwiw i think this post is a decent look for tspic. at this point it's obvious i had a similar thought process to tim's triangulation read on us/poop explosions/bottom text and how he didn't do anything with the read

/meta in cov, tim made a read on esooa early on regarding the townreads she was getting early on in the game based on her read on tim. he later made a post that, even though it gave him bad vibes, he couldn't find an agenda in it at all. this might be the same type of thing. throwing light shade onto something while not committing to the point where you're stepping on toes.

My meta read on Tim is if he hasn't gone out of his way to piss off the entire towncore then lock him in as scum.

[Poop Explosions]

van preflipping here looks incredibly unnatural. Ask me why after I've eaten.

I've eaten.

[VOTE: trans rights] aubergine

as is tradition. i mean if you wolfread me every game of course you're going to be right every once and a while. not here though.

for the record, i actually tend to emphasize a lack of information more as a wolf. i can't tell you how many times i've seen villagers do EXACTLY what i just did and wolf!me saying "i don't like pre-flips rawr"

Most definitely wrong head lmao

[trans rights]

van preflipping here looks incredibly unnatural. Ask me why after I've eaten.

I've eaten.

[VOTE: trans rights] aubergine

as is tradition. i mean if you wolfread me every game of course you're going to be right every once and a while. not here though.

for the record, i actually tend to emphasize a lack of information more as a wolf. i can't tell you how many times i've seen villagers do EXACTLY what i just did and wolf!me saying "i don't like pre-flips rawr"

Most definitely wrong head lmao

sounds like you're c4. in that case we're just done here. i think pre-flipping is actually more indicative of a villager that believes in their reads more than anything else.

[Toopy and Binoo]

Looking at percentage wise of 13 Players.
Removing our hydra = 12 Players
Looking at 4/12 of the players I suspect to be Mafia:

Two and Through
TonyStarkPlaysItCool
Timsup2gettinserious
Poop Explosions

Here’s the percentage those for players contain:
3 Mafia - 23.4%
2 Mafia - 38.4%
1 Mafia - 36.9%
0 Mafia - 1.3%

-Toopy

Why do you suspect those four as mafia

You’d say “Us”
Why do you suspect “us” as Mafia.
As your 1 of the 4.

[Toopy and Binoo]

-Toopy

[Poop Explosions]

i think pre-flipping is actually more indicative of a villager that believes in their reads more than anything else.

Except you don't

[TwoAndThrough]

Okay, enough.

A votes B, B votes C, C votes A...a vote triangle.

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN???????????????????????

There seems to be no shortage of people who want to make something out of me not having a fucking clue what it means...so show me how it is some great revelatory mechanism. Go ahead.

I look at voting so I saw something, and I mentioned it. Maybe someone else sees me point it out and has some meaning to offer. Maybe someone says "huh, interesting, never seen that either." And maybe a bunch of people saying that I am a wolf for not having a clue what it means should put up or shut up, because I think they have no idea what it means either.

[Toopy and Binoo]

Tony you say stuff like this.
That’s why I suspect you.
Plus I also did the math...

-Toopy

[Akemi Hazelnut]

Okay, enough.

A votes B, B votes C, C votes A...a vote triangle.

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN???????????????????????

There seems to be no shortage of people who want to make something out of me not having a fucking clue what it means...so show me how it is some great revelatory mechanism. Go ahead.

I look at voting so I saw something, and I mentioned it. Maybe someone else sees me point it out and has some meaning to offer. Maybe someone says "huh, interesting, never seen that either." And maybe a bunch of people saying that I am a wolf for not having a clue what it means should put up or shut up, because I think they have no idea what it means either.

what if i dont give a shit

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

Looking at percentage wise of 13 Players.
Removing our hydra = 12 Players
Looking at 4/12 of the players I suspect to be Mafia:

Two and Through
TonyStarkPlaysItCool
Timsup2gettinserious
Poop Explosions

Here’s the percentage those for players contain:
3 Mafia - 23.4%
2 Mafia - 38.4%
1 Mafia - 36.9%
0 Mafia - 1.3%

-Toopy

Why do you suspect those four as mafia

You’d say “Us”
Why do you suspect “us” as Mafia.
As your 1 of the 4.

OK, that doesn't really answer the question.

[Poop Explosions]

i think pre-flipping is actually more indicative of a villager that believes in their reads more than anything else.

Except you don't

This was the exact fucking point I made smh

[Akemi Hazelnut]

So to preflip, what do you need? Confidence, right?

on a sidenote, i think julinook is a villager for nanook's push onto two and through. it's in the sweetspot where it probably isn't a bus if two and through is a wolf and i generally like the aggression and persistence of the read

i kinda get the feeling that there's a wolf in two and through and mana. again mana's vote on two and through is kinda bad regarding of the latter's alignment. they also went into commentary mode regarding my interactions with bottom text in a wolfy way. if mana is a wolf, bottom text is probably a villager i think.

The preflip on TAT is almost a "whoops I preflipped" preflip. Like you're barely supposed to notice van's already counting TAT as a pelt.

Up to now van's regularly called that one thing TAT did wolfy, but hasn't really gone past that. She clearly isn't sure on TAT in the second quote. She's already considering Nook spewed by TAT.

The Mana preflip has all the same problems. First of all, why the fuck does there even need to be a dichotomy again, especially when she says the reads have nothing to do with each other, and then again, the preflip on the unconfident scumread. She hedged on the read when it first came up too, saying it could be TWTBAW.

The whole thing just feels like she's putting worldbuilding in front of plain reads in an agenda'y way. Like, she's not diving headfirst all the way into either read, but she's playing with that plan in mind anyway.

theres too many levels to this i dont think it's conclusive

[Bottom Text]

Tony you say stuff like this.
That’s why I suspect you.
Plus I also did the math...

-Toopy

Spoiler: show

i also did the math, though

and the graphs

what do you think about my analysis (the red is alison/nutella, the purple is me)

[Akemi Hazelnut]

i think pre-flipping is actually more indicative of a villager that believes in their reads more than anything else.

Except you don't

This was the exact fucking point I made smh

idk i make preflips on reads im not confident in all the time

[TwoAndThrough]

So to preflip, what do you need? Confidence, right?

on a sidenote, i think julinook is a villager for nanook's push onto two and through. it's in the sweetspot where it probably isn't a bus if two and through is a wolf and i generally like the aggression and persistence of the read

i kinda get the feeling that there's a wolf in two and through and mana. again mana's vote on two and through is kinda bad regarding of the latter's alignment. they also went into commentary mode regarding my interactions with bottom text in a wolfy way. if mana is a wolf, bottom text is probably a villager i think.

The preflip on TAT is almost a "whoops I preflipped" preflip. Like you're barely supposed to notice van's already counting TAT as a pelt.

Up to now van's regularly called that one thing TAT did wolfy, but hasn't really gone past that. She clearly isn't sure on TAT in the second quote. She's already considering Nook spewed by TAT.

The Mana preflip has all the same problems. First of all, why the fuck does there even need to be a dichotomy again, especially when she says the reads have nothing to do with each other, and then again, the preflip on the unconfident scumread. She hedged on the read when it first came up too, saying it could be TWTBAW.

The whole thing just feels like she's putting worldbuilding in front of plain reads in an agenda'y way. Like, she's not diving headfirst all the way into either read, but she's playing with that plan in mind anyway.

Put another way, by making all her reads preflips based on me being a wolf she is really not going on the record at all. If I don't flip, which I probably won't, she's not committed to anything. If I do flip she can say "huh, was wrong" and just starts over because it flushes all her "reads."

[TwoAndThrough]

On second thoughts, not providing a thought on the vote triangle is mildly wolfy i guess

What was I supposed to think about the vote triangle? I think it was unusual, and I made that pretty clear. I actually don't recall seeing that before. With no previous experience of it I have no earthly idea what to make of it. I think what makes it unusual is that it's kind of typical for people to think the person voting them might be a wolf, and that someone voting for that person could be right in doing so...or at the least take kind of an unconscious "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" path. So generally when you have someone voting you and then someone votes for them the reaction is to pile on, not make a triangle. But as I said I am not claiming to "know what it means," I'm just doing my usual drift through day one and noted an oddity.

Of course, my usual drift through day one has all the usual complainers complaining. The people who throw random "reads" based on whatever feelie they get from some obscure bit of wording want me to do the same, and since I don't they cry wolf. The people who want to ascribe some deep meaning to "they opened with a copy pasta" when the player most likely always opens with a copy pasta are upset that I am not having a deeply meaningful conversation about the copy pasta, and they cry wolf. Syn is no doubt gonna death tunnel me again because he is always crying wolf when I come around. It's just another day one in the life.

So here's the deal. I'm town. As I just showed in Nanook's game, if you give me some flips to work with I will happily solve the game and die. I know no one is gonna let me end game. No one should ever let me end game. But at this point I think you should start looking at why so many people are willing to say "oh, one of them misspelled first in their matching one word entry posts...that's a wolf tell for sure" or whatever dumb nonsense is being pitched here. Because somewhere in there are the usual opportunists thinking that this time...finally this time...they are gonna be the wolves that get a day one chop on me.

Yes, it's a good thought to have but on the grand scheme of things but it's kind of a meaningless observation if you don't know, or don't at least have a thought of what it means

fwiw i think this post is a decent look for tspic. at this point it's obvious i had a similar thought process to tim's triangulation read on us/poop explosions/bottom text and how he didn't do anything with the read

/meta in cov, tim made a read on esooa early on regarding the townreads she was getting early on in the game based on her read on tim. he later made a post that, even though it gave him bad vibes, he couldn't find an agenda in it at all. this might be the same type of thing. throwing light shade onto something while not committing to the point where you're stepping on toes.

My meta read on Tim is if he hasn't gone out of his way to piss off the entire towncore then lock him in as scum.

I haven't identified the towncore yet so I'm pretty much stuck with pissing off everyone.

[Poop Explosions]

i think pre-flipping is actually more indicative of a villager that believes in their reads more than anything else.

Except you don't

This was the exact fucking point I made smh

idk i make preflips on reads im not confident in all the time

Sure, unaligned reads are harmless, but do you give people pelts based on reads you're not confident on all the time?

[trans rights]

Okay, enough.

A votes B, B votes C, C votes A...a vote triangle.

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN???????????????????????

There seems to be no shortage of people who want to make something out of me not having a fucking clue what it means...so show me how it is some great revelatory mechanism. Go ahead.

I look at voting so I saw something, and I mentioned it. Maybe someone else sees me point it out and has some meaning to offer. Maybe someone says "huh, interesting, never seen that either." And maybe a bunch of people saying that I am a wolf for not having a clue what it means should put up or shut up, because I think they have no idea what it means either.

look. point out an observation, fine. that's perfectly okay! maybe one of us will get something out of it! i personally do not think it's very useful because it's hard to make a correlation between any of the votes, and there usually aren't going to be in those types of scenarios. the fact of the matter is that was still the only relevant read you had given the entire game up until that point, disregarding anything regarding mist's godread which was only shade at best, and nothing came of that.

listen to what i just mentioned though. correlation between any of the votes. this is what you should be looking for if you make the observation! why did i vote poop explosions? why did bottom text vote me? why did poop explosions vote bottom text? and are these related in a way that's meaningful? this is the point. if you're going to make an observation, investigate it to its fullest. just making the observation and leaving it at that like your work was done isn't actually that helpful.

[TwoAndThrough]

Okay, enough.

A votes B, B votes C, C votes A...a vote triangle.

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN???????????????????????

There seems to be no shortage of people who want to make something out of me not having a fucking clue what it means...so show me how it is some great revelatory mechanism. Go ahead.

I look at voting so I saw something, and I mentioned it. Maybe someone else sees me point it out and has some meaning to offer. Maybe someone says "huh, interesting, never seen that either." And maybe a bunch of people saying that I am a wolf for not having a clue what it means should put up or shut up, because I think they have no idea what it means either.

what if i dont give a shit

Then according to at least a few people you are wolfy like me...despite the fact that they also apparently don't give a shit. Kinda weird, eh?

[TwoAndThrough]

Okay, enough.

A votes B, B votes C, C votes A...a vote triangle.

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN???????????????????????

There seems to be no shortage of people who want to make something out of me not having a fucking clue what it means...so show me how it is some great revelatory mechanism. Go ahead.

I look at voting so I saw something, and I mentioned it. Maybe someone else sees me point it out and has some meaning to offer. Maybe someone says "huh, interesting, never seen that either." And maybe a bunch of people saying that I am a wolf for not having a clue what it means should put up or shut up, because I think they have no idea what it means either.

look. point out an observation, fine. that's perfectly okay! maybe one of us will get something out of it! i personally do not think it's very useful because it's hard to make a correlation between any of the votes, and there usually aren't going to be in those types of scenarios. the fact of the matter is that was still the only relevant read you had given the entire game up until that point, disregarding anything regarding mist's godread which was only shade at best, and nothing came of that.

listen to what i just mentioned though. correlation between any of the votes. this is what you should be looking for if you make the observation! why did i vote poop explosions? why did bottom text vote me? why did poop explosions vote bottom text? and are these related in a way that's meaningful? this is the point. if you're going to make an observation, investigate it to its fullest. just making the observation and leaving it at that like your work was done isn't actually that helpful.

Tim's not being helpful!!!!

Must be a wolf!!!!

Have you ever played with Tim?

[trans rights]

i think pre-flipping is actually more indicative of a villager that believes in their reads more than anything else.

Except you don't

This was the exact fucking point I made smh

okay then follow through. what about my posts indicates that i don't actually believe my reads? point out the relation between my reads and them being pre-flips, and how the nature of that relation indicates that i don't believe said reads.

this is basic mafia my friend.

[Akemi Hazelnut]

I think trans rights is fine for now. Not interested in pushing there today and I don't really care about vanity preflipping because that doesn't sound out of their townrange at all.

I think it's a crap look that I told TAT to pick out the wolves on their wagon only to have them throw blanket mud at everyone on it.

Toppy and Binoo's post analyzing the probability of their guess for the mafia team being 3/2/1/0 mafia is absurd and reinforces my scumread on them.

[trans rights]

Okay, enough.

A votes B, B votes C, C votes A...a vote triangle.

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN???????????????????????

There seems to be no shortage of people who want to make something out of me not having a fucking clue what it means...so show me how it is some great revelatory mechanism. Go ahead.

I look at voting so I saw something, and I mentioned it. Maybe someone else sees me point it out and has some meaning to offer. Maybe someone says "huh, interesting, never seen that either." And maybe a bunch of people saying that I am a wolf for not having a clue what it means should put up or shut up, because I think they have no idea what it means either.

look. point out an observation, fine. that's perfectly okay! maybe one of us will get something out of it! i personally do not think it's very useful because it's hard to make a correlation between any of the votes, and there usually aren't going to be in those types of scenarios. the fact of the matter is that was still the only relevant read you had given the entire game up until that point, disregarding anything regarding mist's godread which was only shade at best, and nothing came of that.

listen to what i just mentioned though. correlation between any of the votes. this is what you should be looking for if you make the observation! why did i vote poop explosions? why did bottom text vote me? why did poop explosions vote bottom text? and are these related in a way that's meaningful? this is the point. if you're going to make an observation, investigate it to its fullest. just making the observation and leaving it at that like your work was done isn't actually that helpful.

Tim's not being helpful!!!!

Must be a wolf!!!!

Have you ever played with Tim?

how is this a defense.

[Poop Explosions]

i think pre-flipping is actually more indicative of a villager that believes in their reads more than anything else.

Except you don't

This was the exact fucking point I made smh

okay then follow through. what about my posts indicates that i don't actually believe my reads? point out the relation between my reads and them being pre-flips, and how the nature of that relation indicates that i don't believe said reads.

this is basic mafia my friend.

I had a whole post for that

[Akemi Hazelnut]

You’d say “Us”
Why do you suspect “us” as Mafia.
As your 1 of the 4.

holy shit

[Bottom Text]

Toppy and Binoo's post analyzing the probability of their guess for the mafia team being 3/2/1/0 mafia is absurd and reinforces my scumread on them.

have you ever played with them

cause like

lol, tbh, im in wolfchat with them just generating random sentences and telling them to send them and its pretty funny

is what i would say if i were their teammate but this is p ordinary seth lol

[Akemi Hazelnut]

Sure, unaligned reads are harmless, but do you give people pelts based on reads you're not confident on all the time?

ftr I interpreted that post as "I like the confidence and persistence of this read, it's townie in general, and it's even townier if TAT is scum which is a very salient possibility".

[Akemi Hazelnut]

Toppy and Binoo's post analyzing the probability of their guess for the mafia team being 3/2/1/0 mafia is absurd and reinforces my scumread on them.

have you ever played with them

cause like

lol, tbh, im in wolfchat with them just generating random sentences and telling them to send them and its pretty funny

is what i would say if i were their teammate but this is p ordinary seth lol

I have played with Gavial and in the game we played together, he intentionally came up with an absurd theory about the gamestate (specifically that me and Tony were signalling to each other) and pushed it for 3 day phases in a row to conceal the fact that he was not doing any solving as mafia and was just repeating himself like a broken record.

[Bottom Text]

Toppy and Binoo's post analyzing the probability of their guess for the mafia team being 3/2/1/0 mafia is absurd and reinforces my scumread on them.

have you ever played with them

cause like

lol, tbh, im in wolfchat with them just generating random sentences and telling them to send them and its pretty funny

is what i would say if i were their teammate but this is p ordinary seth lol

I have played with Gavial and in the game we played together, he intentionally came up with an absurd theory about the gamestate (specifically that me and Tony were signalling to each other) and pushed it for 3 day phases in a row to conceal the fact that he was not doing any solving as mafia and was just repeating himself like a broken record.

oh no maybe his village and wolf meta aren't as polarized as they used to be

[TwoAndThrough]

Okay, enough.

A votes B, B votes C, C votes A...a vote triangle.

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN???????????????????????

There seems to be no shortage of people who want to make something out of me not having a fucking clue what it means...so show me how it is some great revelatory mechanism. Go ahead.

I look at voting so I saw something, and I mentioned it. Maybe someone else sees me point it out and has some meaning to offer. Maybe someone says "huh, interesting, never seen that either." And maybe a bunch of people saying that I am a wolf for not having a clue what it means should put up or shut up, because I think they have no idea what it means either.

look. point out an observation, fine. that's perfectly okay! maybe one of us will get something out of it! i personally do not think it's very useful because it's hard to make a correlation between any of the votes, and there usually aren't going to be in those types of scenarios. the fact of the matter is that was still the only relevant read you had given the entire game up until that point, disregarding anything regarding mist's godread which was only shade at best, and nothing came of that.

listen to what i just mentioned though. correlation between any of the votes. this is what you should be looking for if you make the observation! why did i vote poop explosions? why did bottom text vote me? why did poop explosions vote bottom text? and are these related in a way that's meaningful? this is the point. if you're going to make an observation, investigate it to its fullest. just making the observation and leaving it at that like your work was done isn't actually that helpful.

Tim's not being helpful!!!!

Must be a wolf!!!!

Have you ever played with Tim?

how is this a defense.

Because it points out that your tunnel is completely lacking in any real basis, but you are making it the basis of your entire game of preflip world building.

Tim is never "helpful" on day one. Everyone who has played with him, or read a game he was in, or even talked about him in spec chat knows that. You are using "not helpful" to fake a wolf read, and then building a whole world view out of pre-flips, and it seems like it all comes back to "Tim asked Mist a question we don't wanna talk about so let's hack at him."

The pretending you don't see how that is a "defense" is I think the final log on the fire.

[VOTE: Trans Rights] aubergine

[TwoAndThrough]

i think pre-flipping is actually more indicative of a villager that believes in their reads more than anything else.

Except you don't

This was the exact fucking point I made smh

okay then follow through. what about my posts indicates that i don't actually believe my reads? point out the relation between my reads and them being pre-flips, and how the nature of that relation indicates that i don't believe said reads.

this is basic mafia my friend.

Because your reads are freaking unbelievable?

[Timsup2gettinserious]

Okay, enough.

A votes B, B votes C, C votes A...a vote triangle.

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN???????????????????????

There seems to be no shortage of people who want to make something out of me not having a fucking clue what it means...so show me how it is some great revelatory mechanism. Go ahead.

I look at voting so I saw something, and I mentioned it. Maybe someone else sees me point it out and has some meaning to offer. Maybe someone says "huh, interesting, never seen that either." And maybe a bunch of people saying that I am a wolf for not having a clue what it means should put up or shut up, because I think they have no idea what it means either.

look. point out an observation, fine. that's perfectly okay! maybe one of us will get something out of it! i personally do not think it's very useful because it's hard to make a correlation between any of the votes, and there usually aren't going to be in those types of scenarios. the fact of the matter is that was still the only relevant read you had given the entire game up until that point, disregarding anything regarding mist's godread which was only shade at best, and nothing came of that.

listen to what i just mentioned though. correlation between any of the votes. this is what you should be looking for if you make the observation! why did i vote poop explosions? why did bottom text vote me? why did poop explosions vote bottom text? and are these related in a way that's meaningful? this is the point. if you're going to make an observation, investigate it to its fullest. just making the observation and leaving it at that like your work was done isn't actually that helpful.

Tim's not being helpful!!!!

Must be a wolf!!!!

Have you ever played with Tim?

how is this a defense.

Because it points out that your tunnel is completely lacking in any real basis, but you are making it the basis of your entire game of preflip world building.

Tim is never "helpful" on day one. Everyone who has played with him, or read a game he was in, or even talked about him in spec chat knows that. You are using "not helpful" to fake a wolf read, and then building a whole world view out of pre-flips, and it seems like it all comes back to "Tim asked Mist a question we don't wanna talk about so let's hack at him."

The pretending you don't see how that is a "defense" is I think the final log on the fire.

[VOTE: Trans Rights] aubergine

man you are just lock scum

this isn't about being helpful, it's about you two pretending to be helpful

what in the good god hell is the point of a VOTE TRIANGLE ZOMG!!!!!!!!!!!! observation

meaningless

it's loud noises

cue meta reply from tim/hk saying "that's just how we be" coupled with some self-important quip to "hey wolf chat" or "hey spec chat" and some nonsense about how we should know better, tim/hk aren't going to endgame (despite frequently endgaming), how they'll get the solve if we just let them be, yada yada yada yada

bye

[Timsup2gettinserious]

oh tbh i didn't even read your entire post but i see you already made a "spec chat" quip in it

guess that's one thing on the list checked off

[TwoAndThrough]

I think trans rights is fine for now. Not interested in pushing there today and I don't really care about vanity preflipping because that doesn't sound out of their townrange at all.

I think it's a crap look that I told TAT to pick out the wolves on their wagon only to have them throw blanket mud at everyone on it.

Toppy and Binoo's post analyzing the probability of their guess for the mafia team being 3/2/1/0 mafia is absurd and reinforces my scumread on them.

I gave opinions on everyone. If you expected me to throw flowers get a grip.

However, if you take off the conf bias glasses and read what I actually said you might find that some of the "mud" included "this is typical and NAI" while other "mud" was pretty serious "could be woofin' here." I know the conf bias glasses are pretty opaque, but c'mon.