All My Circuits the Mafia Game [GAME OVER]

[Dom]

sig-- i feel very stupid I didn't realize at all you were talking about a role.

[novaselinenever]

Yeah meta is trashy!

*here is the meta i would like to present you with about myself that totally absolves me*

Relying on your own meta instead of baddie hunting is a bad look.
Do better or get a noose.

I hate this post. It's sensationalism. It doesn't feel like Nanook was necessarily relying on his own meta or even using it to aggressively defend himself or "absolves" himself like you're saying, it rather was just a remark about what he'd have done in that scenario.

It's not necessarily a bad look to share that kind of stuff, just like people that don't know him aren't just going to buy it. There is a lot of wifom in that kind of stuff. The way you paint his behavior as being an alternative to baddie hunting, and the in your face attitude is a much worse look imo.

Also I don't think he's done much baddie hunting to being with lol.

[novaselinenever]

The remuntada PoE remains unchanged.

what word is this and why is it here

It means comeback. It's there 'cause I like to use it

[novaselinenever]

The only things I remember from Enrique was not believing Sig's behavior, having Rej as obvious scum and Creature as probable teammate. But ended up voting Creature over the obvious.

That was something I guess.

[novaselinenever]

He named 2 other members of the remuntada PoE

[novaselinenever]

I'm sending that post to the lab.

[novaselinenever]

[mention]Dom[/mention] thoughts on sig?

[Dom]

Yeah meta is trashy!

*here is the meta i would like to present you with about myself that totally absolves me*

Relying on your own meta instead of baddie hunting is a bad look.
Do better or get a noose.

I hate this post. It's sensationalism. It doesn't feel like Nanook was necessarily relying on his own meta or even using it to aggressively defend himself or "absolves" himself like you're saying, it rather was just a remark about what he'd have done in that scenario.

It's not necessarily a bad look to share that kind of stuff, just like people that don't know him aren't just going to buy it. There is a lot of wifom in that kind of stuff. The way you paint his behavior as being an alternative to baddie hunting, and the in your face attitude is a much worse look imo.

Also I don't think he's done much baddie hunting to being with lol.

Who is he?

nanook literally says it "proves" him civ, so I don't love that.

@Dom thoughts on sig?

Don't love him this game. I didn't like him saying sabie felt fake. It's just a lazy line of attack that he should be better than.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Yeah meta is trashy!

*here is the meta i would like to present you with about myself that totally absolves me*

Relying on your own meta instead of baddie hunting is a bad look.
Do better or get a noose.

I hate this post. It's sensationalism. It doesn't feel like Nanook was necessarily relying on his own meta or even using it to aggressively defend himself or "absolves" himself like you're saying, it rather was just a remark about what he'd have done in that scenario.

It's not necessarily a bad look to share that kind of stuff, just like people that don't know him aren't just going to buy it. There is a lot of wifom in that kind of stuff. The way you paint his behavior as being an alternative to baddie hunting, and the in your face attitude is a much worse look imo.

Also I don't think he's done much baddie hunting to being with lol.

Who is he?

nanook literally says it "proves" him civ, so I don't love that.

@Dom thoughts on sig?

Don't love him this game. I didn't like him saying sabie felt fake. It's just a lazy line of attack that he should be better than.

I don’t think I literally said that

It’s just the implication

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

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[tedxtr]

Rej is scum.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Quick someone ask me who's scum while I'm awake still

[tedxtr]

Creature
sabie12
Epignosis

novaselinenever


MacDougall
===========================

NanookTheGreatAndFearsome



Enrique

Rej
sig
Dom

sprityo probably Neutral

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

The answer is that mac needs to die, I still think creature needs to die, and Epi convinced me on nova. If one of those is wrong I’ll have to make a POE and that sounds like a lot of work tbh, so I’m just gonna stick to those names.

[Dom]

Still view the Tex/Nanook/Rej thing as NAI I think it's just culture clash going on and based around people with different playstyles. Especially since none are super used to TS culture.

Like I said above I'm not really reading it that much, still think there could be mafia among the people arguing what's basically semantics, but Tex seems the most genuine here.

Really not liking Nanook's post about how he'd act or his amendment to it, but besides that he hasn't done anything scummy in my mind.

Uh

Why?

I have proof on this site to back it up lol

I either save my partner or hard bus, I don’t intentionally fence ride.

k mate.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Stop picking on me you’re supposed to be in my circle of literacy!

[MacDougall]

The answer is that mac needs to die, I still think creature needs to die, and Epi convinced me on nova. If one of those is wrong I’ll have to make a POE and that sounds like a lot of work tbh, so I’m just gonna stick to those names.

But I am town. I don't think me dying is a good thing. Unless I get night killed.

I'm happy to get night killed though so I do encourage the scum to kill me because I am secretly solving the game really good like and just about have the whole thing wrapped up in a neat little package. You shouldn't risk leaving me alive.

[MacDougall]

Nova, Dom, Epi, Nanook are all town. We should make a pile.

[MacDougall]

Tedexter, Creature, Sig, Sabie12. Lynch this pile and win.

[tedxtr]

I think you have close to 3 town there.

[tedxtr]

Creature's role is obvious and it's town. Unless anyone else sees another scenario.

[novaselinenever]

The answer is that mac needs to die, I still think creature needs to die, and Epi convinced me on nova. If one of those is wrong I’ll have to make a POE and that sounds like a lot of work tbh, so I’m just gonna stick to those names.

LOL

[novaselinenever]

Creature
sabie12
Epignosis

novaselinenever


MacDougall
===========================

NanookTheGreatAndFearsome



Enrique

Rej
sig
Dom

sprityo probably Neutral

I'd switch Rej and Creature and we have the same PoE.

[novaselinenever]

Maybe Nanook on the other side of the half line as well, just underneath Mac

[tedxtr]

Great, so then can you make a case tomorrow on Dom? Actually, I think it’s better if you do it right now because there’s a high chance you’re dying tonight. Not for me, I’m voting him anyway, but for other people that town read him for no apparent reason. Maybe you can convince them.

[Rej]

[mention]Tedexter[/mention] are you entering some kind of tunnel mode after you moved your vote away?
let's say voting ET was kind of a civil festa. all people there did it for a civ spirit, then you moved away from it for "wagonomics", so you basically distanced from voting together with so many people.

it can be a scumtell you know, for example to avoid voting together with a team mate, increasing the mislynch density

I understand if you were working outside of the wagon like novas, but you seemingly distanced from the mislynch, my first interpretation

[tedxtr]

What question am I supposed to answer here? Are you even trying to figure me out or just painting me tunnely and “can’t think straight” prior to me pushing you tomorrow? Can’t really pinpoint the intent you had with this post, as it was definitely no question for me to answer, and you are asking a loaded question already.

Your question has nothing to do with your follow up. If you wanna say I’m scum, then say it. Don’t be afraid you’ll look bad because I just said I was gonna come at you tomorrow and you’re already shading me in advance.

What made you feel I was tunneling? I said I scum read you, asked nova for his read, commented nothing and then moved on to Dom. What?

[Rej]

What question am I supposed to answer here? Are you even trying to figure me out or just painting me tunnely and “can’t think straight” prior to me pushing you tomorrow? Can’t really pinpoint the intent you had with this post, as it was definitely no question for me to answer, and you are asking a loaded question already.

Your question has nothing to do with your follow up. If you wanna say I’m scum, then say it. Don’t be afraid you’ll look bad because I just said I was gonna come at you tomorrow and you’re already shading me in advance.

What made you feel I was tunneling? I said I scum read you, asked nova for his read, commented nothing and then moved on to Dom. What?

Oh no, I just try to tell you that there is a universe where you are definitely scum.

There was no question directed at you, I just gave you an option to explain yourself, because it seemed like you were avoiding to place your vote on a mislynch wagon and this after I joined it.

[tedxtr]

What if I told you I was working outside of the wagons, exactly like Nova? Also, why assume I was distancing from someone on that wagon and why wasn't nova distancing?

[sig]

@Dom thoughts on sig?

See this feels fake af

Why ask one of the players who openly expressed suspicion of me, it's fake hype and conformation biasish.

I don't like the way nova is reading me right now, not only is he not making a solid case but his prompts as seen above and for other people have been scummy.

Re Dom, and his point on me about Sab. That was an early game tone based read. I didn't try to lynch on it and when she posted more I shifted. Very weak reasoning to pursue a Sig lynch, but Dom always tries to get me lynched when I'm a civ.

Literally the only reason people have against me right now is something something no case (Mac)
Or he developed his read of Sab after a tone/poke early day 1 read. Neither is good enough to lynch.

[sig]

I also don't see why we're handing civs to mafia on a silver platter by making read lists at night ya know when they're deciding who to kill

[Rej]

What if I told you I was working outside of the wagons, exactly like Nova? Also, why assume I was distancing from someone on that wagon and why wasn't nova distancing?

what's the difference? I will tell you, novas was always distanced and so it didn't matter where he put his vote if it comes to the ET lynch
what you did was removing a vote from ET and put it on me, you distanced yourself from the ET wagon when there was no distance before

[novaselinenever]

@Dom thoughts on sig?

See this feels fake af

Why ask one of the players who openly expressed suspicion of me, it's fake hype and conformation biasish.

I don't like the way nova is reading me right now, not only is he not making a solid case but his prompts as seen above and for other people have been scummy.

Re Dom, and his point on me about Sab. That was an early game tone based read. I didn't try to lynch on it and when she posted more I shifted. Very weak reasoning to pursue a Sig lynch, but Dom always tries to get me lynched when I'm a civ.

Literally the only reason people have against me right now is something something no case (Mac)
Or he developed his read of Sab after a tone/poke early day 1 read. Neither is good enough to lynch.

He only did recently, and that's exactly why I asked him about you with both of you being in my very short PoE. He never mentioned you D1 at all, and even agreed with one of your post early D2.

What's wrong with asking someone his thoughts on another player? And how is it fake exactly? Not sure how it's confirmation bias and fake hype when I suspect both of you.

[novaselinenever]

Great, so then can you make a case tomorrow on Dom? Actually, I think it’s better if you do it right now because there’s a high chance you’re dying tonight. Not for me, I’m voting him anyway, but for other people that town read him for no apparent reason. Maybe you can convince them.

Nah I'm definitely not dying I think lol. He's in my short-list for tomorrow so I'll whip something up, what do you have going on that makes him the front runner over the others?

[novaselinenever]

What if I told you I was working outside of the wagons, exactly like Nova? Also, why assume I was distancing from someone on that wagon and why wasn't nova distancing?

what's the difference? I will tell you, novas was always distanced and so it didn't matter where he put his vote if it comes to the ET lynch
what you did was removing a vote from ET and put it on me, you distanced yourself from the ET wagon when there was no distance before

How does that work exactly as distancing? It's even more egregious lol, doesn't feel like there was a calculated scummy move behind it.

[novaselinenever]

I also don't see why we're handing civs to mafia on a silver platter by making read lists at night ya know when they're deciding who to kill

I think they probably have enough to make informed kills especially with them being front runners. Game solving at night with 24 hours day phases and legacy reads work in town favors.

[tedxtr]

It's the lack of anything that makes him town. If you contemplate on it, dom's only reason for being on et was him saying that thing with "i won't be active" and he piggybacked off Epignosis' case. No deduction on anyone whatsoever. He probed creature and then didn't follow through at all, therefore, he was not interested in Creature's alignment at all, because he probably already knew his alignment. All of his questions for ET were loaded and then it's really not a single deduction of anyone else. Just no interest in sorting anyone, only acts as if he does, but he expresses no genuine interest in sorting people. Even with ET, perhaps the first question with the active part was somehow probing, but everything afterwards screamed to me that his intention was burying him instead of actually sorting ET.

I don't get why you guys are reading him town, can anyone give any reasoning? Is it anything deep or just "gut". If it's something nuanced, that has deep roots, then I'm more than willing to debate it, but he just screams scum to me.

Also I believe in my town core, I don't see why I'd switch him with anyone there. Even sabie has been more town than Dom and that was only in one post of hers. Only one. This guy doesn't have a spark of towniness in all of his posts combined.

I can try and go deep on Rej as well if you don't see it, but the last few pages should be pretty self explanatory.

[Rej]

What if I told you I was working outside of the wagons, exactly like Nova? Also, why assume I was distancing from someone on that wagon and why wasn't nova distancing?

what's the difference? I will tell you, novas was always distanced and so it didn't matter where he put his vote if it comes to the ET lynch
what you did was removing a vote from ET and put it on me, you distanced yourself from the ET wagon when there was no distance before

How does that work exactly as distancing? It's even more egregious lol, doesn't feel like there was a calculated scummy move behind it.

The vote on me helped noone, he could have kept it for a surprise the upcomming DP

there is something fishy ya know, I just sense it, can't explain it

[tedxtr]

The simple fact he pretended to read Creature instead of literally anyone else that's 10 times easier to read than Creature is also a really big negative. That should make you ask yourselves questions.

Not only did he not follow through with Creature, but he also chose to read Creature instead of anyone else. If Dom has a high accuracy read on Creature in general and it can be proved based on past experiences, then I'm willing to change my opinion.

[tedxtr]

Rej, how would my vote have helped the people with lynching ET when he was sitting at 6 votes? I am chasing my scum reads, dude was gonna get lynched regardless.

If it's 7 votes instead of 6 would it have been okay? I am chasing my own reads, sitting on ET while doing nothing else is dumb and wasting time. How do you even get a "civ spirit" on that when everyone placed a naked vote then dipped on anything else?

[tedxtr]

Keeping my vote on ET still doesn't help anyone, why are you implying it does?

[Rej]

Rej, how would my vote have helped the people with lynching ET when he was sitting at 6 votes? I am chasing my scum reads, dude was gonna get lynched regardless.

If it's 7 votes instead of 6 would it have been okay? I am chasing my own reads, sitting on ET while doing nothing else is dumb and wasting time. How do you even get a "civ spirit" on that when everyone placed a naked vote then dipped on anything else?

you sounded too convinced on me being scum, the vote can be taken as a statement you know, a vote can mean anything.
A vote can mean "go investigate him cop", a vote can mean "go roleblock him". Especially if you try to manifest something into the votecount, so people can check it out.
Just saying. I am the careful person here.

[tedxtr]

Well yeah, that was my point. I think you're scum.

[Rej]

Well yeah, that was my point. I think you're scum.

A wasted call bro

[tedxtr]

I still think Dom is scummier than you though, fwiw.

[novaselinenever]

Hmmm, that's my general gripe with him. There doesn't seem to be much progression in his reads, just a lot of aggressive prods and bland questions with no very little follow up. It's that aggressive attitude that makes me think that he isn't trying to figure anyone out nor even hear them out, he's just in your face from the get-go. I don't see much for a train of thoughts and the post/quotes seem arbitrary 'cause there is no conclusion or anything.

A lot of the suspicion feels also like surface stuff with things such as activity excuses/being absent/referring to self-meta. It's like he's looking at easy ways to fake suspect people and rolls with them aggressively to appear like he's confident and solving. It's the kind of milking scum reads that scum uses to navigate the game.

The progression on Sig was also another that pinged me. He hadn't even mentioned him prior to EoD2 at all and then in a matter of a few quoted posts with bland questions/prod, he jumped to the top of list. It feels fake especially since the post that kickstarted was Sig theorycrafting about the Indie and just making a bet, like that shit is NAI. He then shoehorned sig's Sabie suspicion which he hadn't mentioned before at all. The latter is something that Enrique mentioned, he didn't believe Sig for it. Shit is racing in my head lol, all three are part of the remuntada PoE so it's pretty interesting.

Go deep on Rej if you got time. He's a lock from me so I'll see if I can help you see the light in case I kick the bucket.

[novaselinenever]

What if I told you I was working outside of the wagons, exactly like Nova? Also, why assume I was distancing from someone on that wagon and why wasn't nova distancing?

what's the difference? I will tell you, novas was always distanced and so it didn't matter where he put his vote if it comes to the ET lynch
what you did was removing a vote from ET and put it on me, you distanced yourself from the ET wagon when there was no distance before

How does that work exactly as distancing? It's even more egregious lol, doesn't feel like there was a calculated scummy move behind it.

The vote on me helped noone, he could have kept it for a surprise the upcomming DP

there is something fishy ya know, I just sense it, can't explain it

If you can't explain something, it doesn't mean that it's also bad. It ain't default lol. Weird/Unconventional is not necessarily scum indicative lol. I'd suggest trying to figure out what his scum motivation/gains for it are.

Like ask yourself what kind of distancing points does he get just because he was not on the wagon on a clear consensus lynch? Especially since he was on it earlier and he also had pegged him as scum early in the phase. People sometimes work in different way.

[tedxtr]

I also don't see why we're handing civs to mafia on a silver platter by making read lists at night ya know when they're deciding who to kill

Why are you assuming I'm town though?

[novaselinenever]

About Sig, think it was his easy brush off of our interactions + Rej as civ that didn't feel earned for me at all. It's too easy and seemed like he just wanted to avoid it. I also didn't like how he immediately gave you a negative ping afterwards. The prod of Sabie is a mess, I can see town!sig being pinged by her entrance, it's more about how he went about it. He didn't mention her in that initial post having his good/bad gut pings, mentioning with an @ later on feels weird especially since she hadn't posted any game content at the time. Like why not for her to show up. Then there is the question itself doesn't feel like natural prodding or trying to figure or get someone to talk. It's too specific and it doesn't really match his interest in that interaction since he brushed it off earlier and didn't engage anyone else on it at all nor continued with her about it. To add-on about him allegedly being pinged by Sabie's entrance, I interacted with him about her D1 and he didn't mention I believe. It was her not answering his question that was a negative ping mentioned.

I also don't care much for how he branded a few interactions as NAI from afar. It feels cheap, it doesn't feel like he isn't trying to look into the meat of the posts to figure out how someone is behaving. There was also a few progressions that seemed pretty wonky. Most of his reads have been pretty safe.

[novaselinenever]

Well yeah, that was my point. I think you're scum.

A wasted call bro

Lol you tell 'em