Hotdog Fingers Mafia [Game over, Mafia won]

[MacDougall]

Pyxxy d1 didn't vote.
Pyxxy d1 just sheeped you.
The strength of your Pyxxy scumread is massively overstated to where it should be. Pyxxy is nowhere near the wolfiest slot in this game and is being pushed by wolves in every wolf team combination i can create.

Also NUTELLA HAD PYXXY AS A STRONG TOWNREAD AND GOT SHOT AFTER VOTING OUT A TOWN.

For Pyxxy to be a wolf means Nutella was fear killed. That only comes from a wolf team that has 2 of Kate/WWA or SVS in it given Nutella's reads.

So if Pyxxy is mafia it's with 2 of these anyway. 2 of them are voting Pyxxy. Pyxxy is town.

[MacDougall]

Pyxxy d1 didn't vote.
Pyxxy d1 just sheeped you.
The strength of your Pyxxy scumread is massively overstated to where it should be. Pyxxy is nowhere near the wolfiest slot in this game and is being pushed by wolves in every wolf team combination i can create.

Also NUTELLA HAD PYXXY AS A STRONG TOWNREAD AND GOT SHOT AFTER VOTING OUT A TOWN.

For Pyxxy to be a wolf means Nutella was fear killed. That only comes from a wolf team that has 2 of Kate/WWA or SVS in it given Nutella's reads.

So if Pyxxy is mafia it's with 2 of these anyway. 2 of them are voting Pyxxy. Pyxxy is town.

D2 sheep.

Town please just listen to me. I am seeing the game clear because I ignored it for 2 days while the wolves sat in here weaving webs of bs around your heads.

[MacDougall]

Okay wagonomics breakdown.

Day 1 confirmed as t/t wagons increases chance of wolves being off wagon.

Kate and Wilgy cross vanity voting off wagon heavily implies a wolf between them. Confirmed town Falcon voting Wilgy. Confirmed town Lilypetal voting me.

If Kate is town Wilgy is mafia. Kate should be pushing Wilgy. Why is she not? Wilgy is probably mafia but Kate's actions are questionable too. Further argument for my dichotomy theory.

Nutella vote is 2 confirmed town to me and TSP. Is this wagon pure? Why would it be? Why would wolves avoid voting Nutella and instead push Rondo unless they were outside the vote entirely?

Rondo wagon is not resolved. 3 living slots voting there.

Day 2 I again suspect is t/t. If Neon is a wolf why not cross vote? If Neon is a wolf there are mafia, probably 2 mafia voting Falcon and Neon wagon is probably clean. Neon as town has a clear solve. Why is Neon not voting those pushing them? If Neon is mafia Wilgy is again a probable hit.

Everywhere I look Wilgy is mafia. Just vote out Wilgy.

Wilgy does not vote Falcon and Porscha in this game if he is town. Trust me.

So this is at top of page.

[MacDougall]

If Pyxxy is mafia. Wilgy is voting Porscha over him ergo is almost certainly a teammate.
Wilgy is also a wolf in world's without Pyxxy. Such as with WWA who is clearly different to Pyxxy.
Wilgy is a wolf in Neon wolf worlds due to his Falcon vote.

Wilgy is mafia in every world I think is valid with the sole exception of Kate/SVS+1 world. That is the only word he might not be and he still CAN be.

Wilgy voting town Falcon is egregious for him because his default town mode is that he views Falcon as a confusing enigma and leaves him alone. Falcon dances in front of town Wilgy and Wilgy just sits there like an old hound who cbf dealing with it. In this game he wolfread Falcon out the gate then votes Falcon at eod d2 over Neon.

[MacDougall]

Falcon ended d1 voting Wilgy and Falcon was not present. If Neon is town that is why Wilgy voted out Falcon and not Neon. Easier and more beneficial for his game long term.

[MacDougall]

Waiting for the "haha no you're definitely a wolf PR" rebuttal like I usually get
If I'm lucky it'll actually stir up something spicy

Haha no you're definitely a wolf PR

Neon why are you voting the counterwagon to someone you called a wolf PR?

[WindwardAway]

Ok I'm almost at Stonehenge so ttyl
I can either come back and powerwolf or I can sit back and let you guys vote the wrong wagon again

[WindwardAway]

Is my internet back

[MacDougall]

@MacDougall what I was more trying to ask is what do you find about SVS that is scummy because in Cosmere she was mostly afk wolfing after D1/D2 (iirc) and I didn't find her in my spec chat escapades with Scotty so I feel like I'm down to sr her being normal because I don't have a better baseline

@Dennis feel free to chime in here too

I prolly have almost as many posts here as I did there already lol

But Cosmere wasn’t the norm for me, I had a death in the family and was totally AFK for 4 days then only really answered my @s and maybe one or two posts a day. Robyn carried me.

So that game is a bad baseline to use for me tbh

"So that game is a bad baseline to use for me tbh"
That's what I was trying to say, I could have been clearer, sorry. Didn't want you to have to reexplain I remembered the situation. Sorry again.

If Pyxxy is mafia it is in a very specific world where SVS is nearly lock mafia. The other one probably would be TSP or ... again ... Dr fucken Wilgy.

[WindwardAway]

Ok nvm i see posts but it's raining out here so I'll catch up later lol

[MacDougall]

Ok I'm almost at Stonehenge so ttyl
I can either come back and powerwolf or I can sit back and let you guys vote the wrong wagon again

This is very wolfy ate. Why are you so sure Pyxxy is mafia?

[WindwardAway]

@MacDougall what I was more trying to ask is what do you find about SVS that is scummy because in Cosmere she was mostly afk wolfing after D1/D2 (iirc) and I didn't find her in my spec chat escapades with Scotty so I feel like I'm down to sr her being normal because I don't have a better baseline

@Dennis feel free to chime in here too

I prolly have almost as many posts here as I did there already lol

But Cosmere wasn’t the norm for me, I had a death in the family and was totally AFK for 4 days then only really answered my @s and maybe one or two posts a day. Robyn carried me.

So that game is a bad baseline to use for me tbh

"So that game is a bad baseline to use for me tbh"
That's what I was trying to say, I could have been clearer, sorry. Didn't want you to have to reexplain I remembered the situation. Sorry again.

If Pyxxy is mafia it is in a very specific world where SVS is nearly lock mafia. The other one probably would be TSP or ... again ... Dr fucken Wilgy.

I would buy a pyxxy/svs/Wilgy team
Will talk about it more later bbl

[WindwardAway]

Ok I'm almost at Stonehenge so ttyl
I can either come back and powerwolf or I can sit back and let you guys vote the wrong wagon again

This is very wolfy ate. Why are you so sure Pyxxy is mafia?

Why is it even AtE I've been trying to post that for a hot minute but phone reception out here is ass
I was being sarcastic but like I'm on a day trip so I won't be back for a while

[WindwardAway]

I think pyxxy is mafia because of his last game with me where I also thought he was mafia and he was mafia

[MacDougall]

For Pyxxy to be mafia likely requires SVS/Kate to be t/w and I frankly don't believe it. They are God read shielding each other. Their reads on each other ate verifiably sheepable. They won't be wrong. If one is town the other is. They are either wolves power shielding or t/t.

[WindwardAway]

Like what else do you want me to say
I literally have been saying for days that pyxxy skated by with doing barely anything as a wolf in the champs practice game and only I pushed him for two days, then neon took up the mantle after I died but neon got voted out instead of pyxxy in lylo

[MacDougall]

I think pyxxy is mafia because of his last game with me where I also thought he was mafia and he was mafia

I know you are a whip smart human being and I know that you know false equivalences like this are not persuasive nor valid.

Show me how they are similar?

Explain why Pyxxy is hard townreading you under this pressure instead of trying to dome you?

[WindwardAway]

For Pyxxy to be mafia likely requires SVS/Kate to be t/w and I frankly don't believe it. They are God read shielding each other. Their reads on each other ate verifiably sheepable. They won't be wrong. If one is town the other is. They are either wolves power shielding or t/t.

No, I don't buy this, because I fooled someone who was dead certain I was locktown off meta and we hard shielded each other but we were T/W
It absolutely happens, I think the townie would've sacrificed themselves over me
Disclaimer we did not have 15 years of meta on each other but my point is *occasionally* people will surprise you and break meta if they know what you tend to look for.

[WindwardAway]

I think pyxxy is mafia because of his last game with me where I also thought he was mafia and he was mafia

I know you are a whip smart human being and I know that you know false equivalences like this are not persuasive nor valid.

Show me how they are similar?

Explain why Pyxxy is hard townreading you under this pressure instead of trying to dome you?

BECAUSE HE FUCKING DID THIS IN THE OTHER GAME TOO

[WindwardAway]

Fucking spotty internet
OK fr i will elaborate on this later by continuing to scream that pyxxy spent last game townreading and offering to sheep me the entire time I was pushing on him when he was wofling

[Porscha]

Pyxxy d1 didn't vote.
Pyxxy d1 just sheeped you.
The strength of your Pyxxy scumread is massively overstated to where it should be. Pyxxy is nowhere near the wolfiest slot in this game and is being pushed by wolves in every wolf team combination i can create.

Also NUTELLA HAD PYXXY AS A STRONG TOWNREAD AND GOT SHOT AFTER VOTING OUT A TOWN.

For Pyxxy to be a wolf means Nutella was fear killed. That only comes from a wolf team that has 2 of Kate/WWA or SVS in it given Nutella's reads.

So if Pyxxy is mafia it's with 2 of these anyway. 2 of them are voting Pyxxy. Pyxxy is town.

D2 sheep.

Town please just listen to me. I am seeing the game clear because I ignored it for 2 days while the wolves sat in here weaving webs of bs around your heads.

maybe weaving webs of lies can apply to your poe in kate/svs or something but idk about wilgy who hardly talked lol

and that entire analysis hinges on why nutella was nk'd when nutella was obv town the night before she got killed. it's impossible to know why she was nk'd, especially to go so far as to say for certain a specific read was why she was nk'd to create this entire world. is there a specific reason you have chosen to see this exact timeline

[Porscha]

Okay wagonomics breakdown.

Day 1 confirmed as t/t wagons increases chance of wolves being off wagon.

Kate and Wilgy cross vanity voting off wagon heavily implies a wolf between them. Confirmed town Falcon voting Wilgy. Confirmed town Lilypetal voting me.

If Kate is town Wilgy is mafia. Kate should be pushing Wilgy. Why is she not? Wilgy is probably mafia but Kate's actions are questionable too. Further argument for my dichotomy theory.

Nutella vote is 2 confirmed town to me and TSP. Is this wagon pure? Why would it be? Why would wolves avoid voting Nutella and instead push Rondo unless they were outside the vote entirely?

Rondo wagon is not resolved. 3 living slots voting there.

Day 2 I again suspect is t/t. If Neon is a wolf why not cross vote? If Neon is a wolf there are mafia, probably 2 mafia voting Falcon and Neon wagon is probably clean. Neon as town has a clear solve. Why is Neon not voting those pushing them? If Neon is mafia Wilgy is again a probable hit.

Everywhere I look Wilgy is mafia. Just vote out Wilgy.

Wilgy does not vote Falcon and Porscha in this game if he is town. Trust me.

So this is at top of page.

acknowledged

[WindwardAway]

Fucking spotty internet
OK fr i will elaborate on this later by continuing to scream that pyxxy spent last game townreading and offering to sheep me the entire time I was pushing on him when he was wofling

[WindwardAway]

No mac you aren't seeing this clearly if you think I'm a wolf over pyxxy

[MacDougall]

Falcon Kate TSP is the new hotness let's go

Actually I changed my mind again i think TSP might be ok
Need to see more to really decide
Would yeet pyxxy tho
Might yeet Kate idk
Might yeet Mac cause my vote's there but I still prefer his posts over pyxxy's
I think falcon's posting was OK by the end of yesterday

This post mid day 2 is quite literally the first mention WWA makes of Pyxxy. For someone with this developed of a scumread and the volume of posts they have I find it quite remarkable.

[Porscha]

For Pyxxy to be mafia likely requires SVS/Kate to be t/w and I frankly don't believe it. They are God read shielding each other. Their reads on each other ate verifiably sheepable. They won't be wrong. If one is town the other is. They are either wolves power shielding or t/t.

ah that's the perspective you're using...... I always feel like it's possible to misread and even god reads can slip from the hands of heaven (be wrong) so I didn't actually consider that it's 99.99% likely they are accurate in the reciprocal read. still not sure I really believe that but I understand how you were thinking

[MacDougall]

Pyxxy d1 didn't vote.
Pyxxy d1 just sheeped you.
The strength of your Pyxxy scumread is massively overstated to where it should be. Pyxxy is nowhere near the wolfiest slot in this game and is being pushed by wolves in every wolf team combination i can create.

Also NUTELLA HAD PYXXY AS A STRONG TOWNREAD AND GOT SHOT AFTER VOTING OUT A TOWN.

For Pyxxy to be a wolf means Nutella was fear killed. That only comes from a wolf team that has 2 of Kate/WWA or SVS in it given Nutella's reads.

So if Pyxxy is mafia it's with 2 of these anyway. 2 of them are voting Pyxxy. Pyxxy is town.

D2 sheep.

Town please just listen to me. I am seeing the game clear because I ignored it for 2 days while the wolves sat in here weaving webs of bs around your heads.

maybe weaving webs of lies can apply to your poe in kate/svs or something but idk about wilgy who hardly talked lol

and that entire analysis hinges on why nutella was nk'd when nutella was obv town the night before she got killed. it's impossible to know why she was nk'd, especially to go so far as to say for certain a specific read was why she was nk'd to create this entire world. is there a specific reason you have chosen to see this exact timeline

Nonsense Wilgy has come up with a whole bunch of baseless bogus nonsense since I was gone and it's the only reason anyone is fucking townreading him.

Do you think I'm mafia?

[MacDougall]

For Pyxxy to be mafia likely requires SVS/Kate to be t/w and I frankly don't believe it. They are God read shielding each other. Their reads on each other ate verifiably sheepable. They won't be wrong. If one is town the other is. They are either wolves power shielding or t/t.

ah that's the perspective you're using...... I always feel like it's possible to misread and even god reads can slip from the hands of heaven (be wrong) so I didn't actually consider that it's 99.99% likely they are accurate in the reciprocal read. still not sure I really believe that but I understand how you were thinking

If you think they can be wrong on each other then the read is they are w/w because neither are remotely entertaining the likelihood on day 3 with 0 dead wolves.

[Porscha]

Pyxxy d1 didn't vote.
Pyxxy d1 just sheeped you.
The strength of your Pyxxy scumread is massively overstated to where it should be. Pyxxy is nowhere near the wolfiest slot in this game and is being pushed by wolves in every wolf team combination i can create.

Also NUTELLA HAD PYXXY AS A STRONG TOWNREAD AND GOT SHOT AFTER VOTING OUT A TOWN.

For Pyxxy to be a wolf means Nutella was fear killed. That only comes from a wolf team that has 2 of Kate/WWA or SVS in it given Nutella's reads.

So if Pyxxy is mafia it's with 2 of these anyway. 2 of them are voting Pyxxy. Pyxxy is town.

D2 sheep.

Town please just listen to me. I am seeing the game clear because I ignored it for 2 days while the wolves sat in here weaving webs of bs around your heads.

maybe weaving webs of lies can apply to your poe in kate/svs or something but idk about wilgy who hardly talked lol

and that entire analysis hinges on why nutella was nk'd when nutella was obv town the night before she got killed. it's impossible to know why she was nk'd, especially to go so far as to say for certain a specific read was why she was nk'd to create this entire world. is there a specific reason you have chosen to see this exact timeline

Nonsense Wilgy has come up with a whole bunch of baseless bogus nonsense since I was gone and it's the only reason anyone is fucking townreading him.

Do you think I'm mafia?

if you're referring to the first and only real posts he made earlier today then yes, I don't particularly understand them and do think some of the dichotomies he put forth could potentially be from a wolf trying to push thread into a bad direction early in the day

and no I doubt it

[MacDougall]

Kate had SVS dead to absolute rights the last game they both played. Remember? Literally saw through her like she was a complete noob. It was godly.

Kate will not be wrong on SVS if she is town. If SVS is mafia Kate is not town Kate is mafia.

Kate MAYBE pocketing SVS. But I would expect SVS to have at least humoured the thought given the situation we find ourselves in.

They are either wolves or they are town with absolutely disgustingly good meta reads on each other. If they are t/w I will be ... mildly annoyed at the town between them lol.

But seriously I am very confident it's not t/t.

The more I talk the more I am convincing myself especially that Nutella only dies over 1 of them if they are both mafia tbh. We are on day 3 and have had SVS and Kate mason town locking each other. Kate who BREAKS wolf teams with her soul reads. Zero wolf flips and both alive?

[MacDougall]

Why is Kate voting Pyxxy over Dennis?

@S~V~S are you absolutely sure Kate is town?

[Porscha]

For Pyxxy to be mafia likely requires SVS/Kate to be t/w and I frankly don't believe it. They are God read shielding each other. Their reads on each other ate verifiably sheepable. They won't be wrong. If one is town the other is. They are either wolves power shielding or t/t.

ah that's the perspective you're using...... I always feel like it's possible to misread and even god reads can slip from the hands of heaven (be wrong) so I didn't actually consider that it's 99.99% likely they are accurate in the reciprocal read. still not sure I really believe that but I understand how you were thinking

If you think they can be wrong on each other then the read is they are w/w because neither are remotely entertaining the likelihood on day 3 with 0 dead wolves.

I mean you most definitely know them better than I do, combined and individually, I just don't see why a town couldn't be getting fooled by a wolf in between them. like i'm not capable of understanding the confidence in the read you have of them because I haven't at any point witnessed them in a way that would make me believe what you believe about them being paired. and i'm not saying that's what is happening, but I do now see where your thought process is coming from and i'll keep it in mind

[Porscha]

Kate had SVS dead to absolute rights the last game they both played. Remember? Literally saw through her like she was a complete noob. It was godly.

Kate will not be wrong on SVS if she is town. If SVS is mafia Kate is not town Kate is mafia.

Kate MAYBE pocketing SVS. But I would expect SVS to have at least humoured the thought given the situation we find ourselves in.

They are either wolves or they are town with absolutely disgustingly good meta reads on each other. If they are t/w I will be ... mildly annoyed at the town between them lol.

But seriously I am very confident it's not t/t.

The more I talk the more I am convincing myself especially that Nutella only dies over 1 of them if they are both mafia tbh. We are on day 3 and have had SVS and Kate mason town locking each other. Kate who BREAKS wolf teams with her soul reads. Zero wolf flips and both alive?

I sincerely hadn't played with worlds where svs and kate would both be wolves when the hamster in my brain has been a lot more focused on other people. but that would also align with your idea that... the votes aren't... what was it? okay you said svs and kate on pyxxy so pyxxy is town. I'm not sold on that because of my individual read on pyxxy. but you also said wolf wilgy would likely be w wwa and town kate/svs... so if it's wolf kate/svs, then doesnt that also mean wilgy is less likely involved as the third wolf? who would the third be?

[Porscha]

I mean fuck it I guess wilgy could still be a third wolf in that scenario. my brain hurts and I have to sleep

[Porscha]

didn't tsp say something about kate/svs today? as a thought of who could be third with kate/svs

idk maybe i'm delusional i'll check for it tomorrow

[Porscha]

or maybe dennis. okay I need to stop thinking about this bye

[Porscha]

I will reconsider moving my vote tomorrow

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I see Dennis has yet to vote. I consider that outing.

Pick the wolf between Seanzie and Wilgy.

I think WWA is a wolf but i would actually prefer we go to the above 3 right now simply due to WWA level of effort and my earlier vibe read.

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine

the guy who hasn't showed up in like an entire day not voting is outing? lol

I think the guy skating by on his mother's read and doing nothing exactly the same way he abused a town read when we wolfed together is pretty outing honestly

ah well when you put it that way lol...... it doesnt look good

but I stand by the idea that he wouldn't have voted if he didnt come back to thread

whatever not coming back to thread means for his alignment is up for debate. I didn't find him particularly wolfy before, but his eod was objectively not good. but what are the chances both him and pyxxy biff the eod that drastically and both neglect thread the following day as w/w? idk i'm about to just start pre flipping pyxxy in my head even if I need to vote off him today lol if he isn't gonna play then he isn't much of a threat anyway

there's just no chance wolves are sitting back doing nothing today? or maybe they are and mac is right. pain

I'd say for Dennis who's under almost no pressure it's decently high

For Pyxxy who got to 4 votes it's less likely maybe but I don't know what type of woof Pyx is really.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Waiting for the "haha no you're definitely a wolf PR" rebuttal like I usually get
If I'm lucky it'll actually stir up something spicy

Haha no you're definitely a wolf PR

Neon why are you voting the counterwagon to someone you called a wolf PR?

That was a joke?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Like there's no way you don't realize that was a joke referencing what WWA just said right?

[S~V~S]

Sorry sorry sorry, for the super gigantic ugly post. I got lost in an ISO, and it was easier to make one big post than several smaller, and my spoiler tagging always seems to break.

Kate had SVS dead to absolute rights the last game they both played. Remember? Literally saw through her like she was a complete noob. It was godly.

Kate will not be wrong on SVS if she is town. If SVS is mafia Kate is not town Kate is mafia.

Kate MAYBE pocketing SVS. But I would expect SVS to have at least humoured the thought given the situation we find ourselves in.

They are either wolves or they are town with absolutely disgustingly good meta reads on each other. If they are t/w I will be ... mildly annoyed at the town between them lol.

But seriously I am very confident it's not t/t.

The more I talk the more I am convincing myself especially that Nutella only dies over 1 of them if they are both mafia tbh. We are on day 3 and have had SVS and Kate mason town locking each other. Kate who BREAKS wolf teams with her soul reads. Zero wolf flips and both alive?

When Kate tries to pocket me, she's very tentative not bold. She upped her wolf game overall in Scooby Doo, but not like this. Initially, I can fool her longer than she can fool me, but not much longer. She reads my meta better than I read hers, she can pick out stylistic differences I miss (and I mean this for everyone, not just me, she notices things like grammar and smiley usage. It's scary).

And you're over analyzing, it's why you have problems reading me, her, other old timey peeps. We're more chaos players and aren't very formulaic. It's easier to imagine worlds where we're bad.

Waiting for the "haha no you're definitely a wolf PR" rebuttal like I usually get
If I'm lucky it'll actually stir up something spicy

Haha no you're definitely a wolf PR

Neon why are you voting the counterwagon to someone you called a wolf PR?

Who was she voting for?

Why is Kate voting Pyxxy over Dennis?

@S~V~S are you absolutely sure Kate is town?

As above, yes.

Now you answer a question for me. When you lied to me the other day, when you were happy posting; (I saw someone else, Dennis I think, make a remark about dropping the schtick, and he stopped doing what he had been doing) and towards the end of that day you stopped doing it, were you compelled to happy post, where you doing it for shits and giggles, or is it a you cannot say thing?

Actually I want to know what @MacDougall has to say, too, since he also had falcon as scum and I'm pretty sure he tried to convince me of it

I am voting you and I am not unvoting you.

Why did this unhappen? From subsequent posts, you seem to still think Windward is bad, or at least thats the tone your're taking with her.

I also want you to tell me what are your thoughts on how day 2 ended, with Windward seemingly going to the walls to save Neon, resulting in Falcons yeet? You throw out a lot of different scenarios, and it can be hard for me to follow your train of thought. You're more of a big picture guy, I tend to focus on individuals.

I read Windward for Neon mentions, and Day One she quoted this:

I've decided to build a town core.

Lilypetal
Neon
Porscha
Seanzie
WindwardAway



Yeah that's the stuff right there...

Interesting

Since Windward has accused me and someone else I noticed but don't recall who os sheeping them, so I wasn't sure what interesting meant in this context.

I read her Day Two re Neon, and her progression is really interesting.

She starts out with this:

There is at least one wolf in Neon/Lily.

That's also my thought but idk how confident I am in it, probably less than you

hmmm

Oh thanks for reminding me lily flipped town
I was thinking one of those two names was gonna flip wolf with Seanzie
So I guess I'll look at neon again if Seanzie flips wolf which he probably will, if he doesn't, oh well

Would you look at neon if seanzie flips town though bc spoiler I definitely would

I would look at Neon regardless of Seanzie's flip tbh but especially if Seanzie flips town

Actually maybe I retract the "especially if Seanzie flips town" part
Neon was in my PoE anyway

Goes to this:

I know it is early in the day, but I am worried about the current gamestate, and based off it, I think I'm already a reasonable candidate for elim today, and I kind of doubt that is going to change (many people who can be heavy hitters are on the sidelines, and if that remains true, this threadstate will not significantly change by EoD).

Currently though the people pushing me are doing so with nothing. Nutella has "vibes" and "Mac and TSP" stuff. Kate is sheeping this, and WWA because I am different than a game which I played in a very different way than I usually play.

Can y'all help me encourage these people to actually come at me? If I'm a wolf, they have prime opporunities to spew themselves town on me, and if I'm town and we currently sleepwalk into a Seanzie elim with these sorts of cases, y'all don't learn anything from my flip.

why aren't you pushing neon today?

I cannot recall any feeling I've had towards Neon or anything they've done, so mostly they just aren't on my mind. I know you quoted a post where I said something about Neon, but clearly it wasn't that important to me since I don't remember making it or what I was feeling when I made it.

Well that's disappointing.

And is willing to vote pretty much anyone by EOD to save Neon.

I'm not going to quote Windwards whole ISO; but if you have time, open her ISO, search it for Neon, and read Day Two

I'm leaving my vote where it is.

Bai! Work calls!

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Vote: Dennis

[S~V~S]

Alright I won't vote wind today bc it will be a bigger loss if she is town bc she is solving and leading. We can determine if that's powerwolfing after more flips

And if she's wolf I now think she's more likely tmiing neon than saving her maybe. If she's town I can follow the read for today

So that all combined with letting up on Kate/SVS (though I still don't feel great about SVS) and with falcon still not really doing anything inspiring

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

Yeah but I'm solving and leading cause I'm gonna be mostly afk from Thursday through Sunday lol

ALSO if you have time, after Windwards ISO is open, and you searched for Neon, search THOSE results for Nutella.

I know everyone things "post post post MORE" but it's also easier to lose things people said three calendar days ago when they have a hundred posts a day.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Sorry sorry sorry, for the super gigantic ugly post. I got lost in an ISO, and it was easier to make one big post than several smaller, and my spoiler tagging always seems to break.

Kate had SVS dead to absolute rights the last game they both played. Remember? Literally saw through her like she was a complete noob. It was godly.

Kate will not be wrong on SVS if she is town. If SVS is mafia Kate is not town Kate is mafia.

Kate MAYBE pocketing SVS. But I would expect SVS to have at least humoured the thought given the situation we find ourselves in.

They are either wolves or they are town with absolutely disgustingly good meta reads on each other. If they are t/w I will be ... mildly annoyed at the town between them lol.

But seriously I am very confident it's not t/t.

The more I talk the more I am convincing myself especially that Nutella only dies over 1 of them if they are both mafia tbh. We are on day 3 and have had SVS and Kate mason town locking each other. Kate who BREAKS wolf teams with her soul reads. Zero wolf flips and both alive?

When Kate tries to pocket me, she's very tentative not bold. She upped her wolf game overall in Scooby Doo, but not like this. Initially, I can fool her longer than she can fool me, but not much longer. She reads my meta better than I read hers, she can pick out stylistic differences I miss (and I mean this for everyone, not just me, she notices things like grammar and smiley usage. It's scary).

And you're over analyzing, it's why you have problems reading me, her, other old timey peeps. We're more chaos players and aren't very formulaic. It's easier to imagine worlds where we're bad.

Waiting for the "haha no you're definitely a wolf PR" rebuttal like I usually get
If I'm lucky it'll actually stir up something spicy

Haha no you're definitely a wolf PR

Neon why are you voting the counterwagon to someone you called a wolf PR?

Who was she voting for?

Why is Kate voting Pyxxy over Dennis?

@S~V~S are you absolutely sure Kate is town?

As above, yes.

Now you answer a question for me. When you lied to me the other day, when you were happy posting; (I saw someone else, Dennis I think, make a remark about dropping the schtick, and he stopped doing what he had been doing) and towards the end of that day you stopped doing it, were you compelled to happy post, where you doing it for shits and giggles, or is it a you cannot say thing?

Actually I want to know what @MacDougall has to say, too, since he also had falcon as scum and I'm pretty sure he tried to convince me of it

I am voting you and I am not unvoting you.

Why did this unhappen? From subsequent posts, you seem to still think Windward is bad, or at least thats the tone your're taking with her.

I also want you to tell me what are your thoughts on how day 2 ended, with Windward seemingly going to the walls to save Neon, resulting in Falcons yeet? You throw out a lot of different scenarios, and it can be hard for me to follow your train of thought. You're more of a big picture guy, I tend to focus on individuals.

I read Windward for Neon mentions, and Day One she quoted this:

I've decided to build a town core.

Lilypetal
Neon
Porscha
Seanzie
WindwardAway



Yeah that's the stuff right there...

Interesting

Since Windward has accused me and someone else I noticed but don't recall who os sheeping them, so I wasn't sure what interesting meant in this context.

I read her Day Two re Neon, and her progression is really interesting.

She starts out with this:

That's also my thought but idk how confident I am in it, probably less than you

hmmm

Oh thanks for reminding me lily flipped town
I was thinking one of those two names was gonna flip wolf with Seanzie
So I guess I'll look at neon again if Seanzie flips wolf which he probably will, if he doesn't, oh well

Would you look at neon if seanzie flips town though bc spoiler I definitely would

I would look at Neon regardless of Seanzie's flip tbh but especially if Seanzie flips town

Actually maybe I retract the "especially if Seanzie flips town" part
Neon was in my PoE anyway

Goes to this:

I know it is early in the day, but I am worried about the current gamestate, and based off it, I think I'm already a reasonable candidate for elim today, and I kind of doubt that is going to change (many people who can be heavy hitters are on the sidelines, and if that remains true, this threadstate will not significantly change by EoD).

Currently though the people pushing me are doing so with nothing. Nutella has "vibes" and "Mac and TSP" stuff. Kate is sheeping this, and WWA because I am different than a game which I played in a very different way than I usually play.

Can y'all help me encourage these people to actually come at me? If I'm a wolf, they have prime opporunities to spew themselves town on me, and if I'm town and we currently sleepwalk into a Seanzie elim with these sorts of cases, y'all don't learn anything from my flip.

why aren't you pushing neon today?

I cannot recall any feeling I've had towards Neon or anything they've done, so mostly they just aren't on my mind. I know you quoted a post where I said something about Neon, but clearly it wasn't that important to me since I don't remember making it or what I was feeling when I made it.

Well that's disappointing.

And is willing to vote pretty much anyone by EOD to save Neon.

I'm not going to quote Windwards whole ISO; but if you have time, open her ISO, search it for Neon, and read Day Two

I'm leaving my vote where it is.

Bai! Work calls!

If anything WWA is playing with me since I am town. But I don't see why. What benefit is there for wolf WWA to save me unless we are exactly W/W which is not true.

Frankly WWA reminds me of the very last game I don't see any wolfy motivation for what they are doing and I think they believe their Pyxxy read after getting them early just last game and nobody listening. I believe it too... or I did but listening to Mac talk is really making me nervous that my Pyx read is just wrong.

Mac is someone far better than I am at scum reads and like the game in general and someone i deeply value the reads of in game and we have disagreed on everything so I have to assume Mac is either powerwolfing or I'm just wrong and I don't think this is Mac woofin.

I don't know what to do at this point and I fucking hate it.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Alright I won't vote wind today bc it will be a bigger loss if she is town bc she is solving and leading. We can determine if that's powerwolfing after more flips

And if she's wolf I now think she's more likely tmiing neon than saving her maybe. If she's town I can follow the read for today

So that all combined with letting up on Kate/SVS (though I still don't feel great about SVS) and with falcon still not really doing anything inspiring

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

Yeah but I'm solving and leading cause I'm gonna be mostly afk from Thursday through Sunday lol

ALSO if you have time, after Windwards ISO is open, and you searched for Neon, search THOSE results for Nutella.

I know everyone things "post post post MORE" but it's also easier to lose things people said three calendar days ago when they have a hundred posts a day.

What exactly are you trying to point out here?

[TonyStarkPrime]

The reason Wilgy isn’t a wolf is because some wolf made that crazy “wow this is helpful analysis” post that I think is roughly never w/w

I think that a wolf could easily make that post at another wolf

Yeah they could easily but they didn’t

[TonyStarkPrime]

Pxcyxycyxy strikes me as an ok vote but like does anyone think it’s gonna hit? We make that chop on day 4 after someone makes a big stink about trying to chop (redacted) for the first 36 hours

[TonyStarkPrime]

Dennis ? Wolf ?

[DrWilgy]

Yeah this is town and frustrated Porscha.

I do think Pyxxy is a hit but I think you are way off base with Porscha. This firey response from Porscha is something I strongly associate with her town game not her scum game. I don't know Porscha is kinda polarized...

I'm starting to agree with you after her string of replies
Willing to back off for a bit cause i think she's doing good stuff now

Yes

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Yeah this is town and frustrated Porscha.

I do think Pyxxy is a hit but I think you are way off base with Porscha. This firey response from Porscha is something I strongly associate with her town game not her scum game. I don't know Porscha is kinda polarized...

I'm starting to agree with you after her string of replies
Willing to back off for a bit cause i think she's doing good stuff now

Yes

Yes