Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:41 pm
i am simultaneously pleased and confused by the activity generated since this morning
build a world around t!dunya
who is the team?
a serious answer after you took my bait list seriously is that I still largely believe my earlier post where I said that the chopping of one probably results in the chopping of the other (in between dunia/lp)
I would probably try to argue to not chop lp tomorrow if you die today and flip wolf, but I don't think I would argue that if you flip town
which feels like a waste and extremely suboptimal if the wolf team has set you two up as t/t wagons
Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:38 pm
I scum-read TSP because he's handling everything with kid gloves despite being in the thick of it, and I think his play is very compatible with urist and dunia. he is firmly in the middle no matter how you look at him
I dunno what you want me to do Dunia’s called me rude like three times
I scum-read TSP because he's handling everything with kid gloves despite being in the thick of it, and I think his play is very compatible with urist and dunia. he is firmly in the middle no matter how you look at him
Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:30 pm
hello again
I'm gonna have to read TSP's ISO aren't I
hi dolby you quoted a post of mine where I established a dichotomy between lp and dunia and said they were w/w
but this reply ignored my previous posts where i argued they would not be w/w
Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:31 am
is it possible they are w/w? it feels unlikely to me. Dunia has refused to engage or push toward LP and has tried to get the vote off of her today with an attempted Wilgy push, but with LP just rolling over, would w!dunia expend so much energy trying to save a w!lp that has given up?
Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:32 am
dunia also did this with scotty on d1 with her creature push.
Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:32 am
however, it is also worth noting that dunia herself was a competing wagon around these times, so was she trying to get the vote off of her or off of a teammate?
anyway i find it interesting that after my solo posting and specifically pointing out that w!dunia would set it up so LP and Scotty die after her that several people have come out to specifically say that if dunia flips wolf, they're going to immediately chop Scotty
which is why I'm landing on resolve dunya today and deal with that fallout tomorrow.
If dunya = wolf then by extension scotty and myself look poorly. I think syn might as well.
LP probably looks a touch better but I'm not discounting w/w wagons at all here.
TSP/Jack look really good off of that. Urist less good.
You and Raskol are probably the same tbh. Dya looks marginally better I think.
Wigley probs spewed town in that instance though someone still probably murks him at night anyways just to be sure.
marmot also probably looks about the same.
explain the bold
I have the two of you tangentially linked together in my notes. My notes are in my brain btw not written down.
anyways, I don't think it's enough of a link for me to say "dunya flipped wolf lets get Syn" but definitely linked enough that dunya flipping wolf is going to make me ask myself "was syn wrong to defend or was syn defending a partner". GTH I think dunya wolf pockets town syn before syn and dunya as a pack conspire to "do bad things to town".
Mostly it's getting all my thoughts into the thread before eod so that if I do die ppl know what I was thinking and if I don't die ppl have things to engage me with
i brought dunia to 7 votes and begged someone to hammer, wdym
i spent an entire page this morning painting a world where dunia is a wolf
you ignored it tho because you were included in that world
which is why I'm landing on resolve dunya today and deal with that fallout tomorrow.
If dunya = wolf then by extension scotty and myself look poorly. I think syn might as well.
LP probably looks a touch better but I'm not discounting w/w wagons at all here.
TSP/Jack look really good off of that. Urist less good.
You and Raskol are probably the same tbh. Dya looks marginally better I think.
Wigley probs spewed town in that instance though someone still probably murks him at night anyways just to be sure.
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:09 am
Per what hk and Urist have said, figuring out if dunya is a wolf or town will hopefully also shed some light on Jack and/or TSP.
explain wrt TSP specifically?
hollowkatt posted a thunk that I liked that said something like "do town TSP and town Jack push town dunya in this gamestate", and I think that is a definite no, so if dunia is town I think it means at least one of them is a wolf.
TSP and Jack are both excellent players (as either alignment) and have plenty of history with dunia, so both of them being town and wrong on this would be very hard to believe.
You could probably add Syn and myself to the list with Jack and TSP, but I don't think Syn nor I are nearly as capable as pushing town!dunya if we're wolves.
Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:49 am
i associate dunia's wolf game with ... b) strategic usage of AtE and camaraderie to receive personality-based town reads
b was present, but a was not
Do you have an example of this as her meta? I was actually thinking the opposite last night, that she's still salty from Mac's play in space invaders and would steer away from AtE-like things as mafia.
keep in mind that I do not mean excessive AtE
go back to when she self-voted. she dropped all emotion the moment she achieved what she wanted. when she said she wasn't feeling emotional, she wasn't lying... because it was manufactured for manipulation
anyway, she used this to great success in just robbed a bank on cfc, which won her best mafioso of the year in my community
Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:33 am
w!dunia could pick someone besides scotty or lp for competing cases as a means of generating wifom
if she flips wolf, we'll spend future chops wasting them on scotty and lp because she advocated so heavily for their wagons to dissipate
i associate dunia's wolf game with a) an overarching agenda and b) strategic usage of AtE and camaraderie to receive personality-based town reads
b was present, but a was not
is the above significant enough to count as a?
scotty's post about as many of the wolves as possible needing to survive until a certain phase to maximize kills is of interest when placed next to my wifom theory regarding dunia
this would also explain w!hollowkatt's enthusiastic reply to scott's mech post
you are in marmot territory rn (theory crafting). I guess it's self-resolving since HK claimed SOD anyway. (in case you have any doubt, this is not wolf HK because that would be a big gamble on nobody picking the druid route)
this is irrelevant with delayed reports, no role cop, and re-spec
Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:33 am
w!dunia could pick someone besides scotty or lp for competing cases as a means of generating wifom
if she flips wolf, we'll spend future chops wasting them on scotty and lp because she advocated so heavily for their wagons to dissipate
i associate dunia's wolf game with a) an overarching agenda and b) strategic usage of AtE and camaraderie to receive personality-based town reads
b was present, but a was not
is the above significant enough to count as a?
scotty's post about as many of the wolves as possible needing to survive until a certain phase to maximize kills is of interest when placed next to my wifom theory regarding dunia
this would also explain w!hollowkatt's enthusiastic reply to scott's mech post
i regret to inform myself that this world means scotty is town
Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:33 am
w!dunia could pick someone besides scotty or lp for competing cases as a means of generating wifom
if she flips wolf, we'll spend future chops wasting them on scotty and lp because she advocated so heavily for their wagons to dissipate
i associate dunia's wolf game with a) an overarching agenda and b) strategic usage of AtE and camaraderie to receive personality-based town reads
b was present, but a was not
is the above significant enough to count as a?
scotty's post about as many of the wolves as possible needing to survive until a certain phase to maximize kills is of interest when placed next to my wifom theory regarding dunia
this would also explain w!hollowkatt's enthusiastic reply to scott's mech post
Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:33 am
w!dunia could pick someone besides scotty or lp for competing cases as a means of generating wifom
if she flips wolf, we'll spend future chops wasting them on scotty and lp because she advocated so heavily for their wagons to dissipate
i associate dunia's wolf game with a) an overarching agenda and b) strategic usage of AtE and camaraderie to receive personality-based town reads
b was present, but a was not
is the above significant enough to count as a?
scotty's post about as many of the wolves as possible needing to survive until a certain phase to maximize kills is of interest when placed next to my wifom theory regarding dunia
i don't really care about wilgy and am solely basing my opinion on his alignment off of the case against him, which was low tier and about as rigorous as the case on creature
