RPG Mafia MAFIA WIN

[Syn]

Per what hk and Urist have said, figuring out if dunya is a wolf or town will hopefully also shed some light on Jack and/or TSP.

explain wrt TSP specifically?

hollowkatt posted a thunk that I liked that said something like "do town TSP and town Jack push town dunya in this gamestate", and I think that is a definite no, so if dunia is town I think it means at least one of them is a wolf.


TSP and Jack are both excellent players (as either alignment) and have plenty of history with dunia, so both of them being town and wrong on this would be very hard to believe.


You could probably add Syn and myself to the list with Jack and TSP, but I don't think Syn nor I are nearly as capable as pushing town!dunya if we're wolves.

why i gotta be included in the self slandering

[Syn]

which is why I'm landing on resolve dunya today and deal with that fallout tomorrow.
If dunya = wolf then by extension scotty and myself look poorly. I think syn might as well.
LP probably looks a touch better but I'm not discounting w/w wagons at all here.

TSP/Jack look really good off of that. Urist less good.

You and Raskol are probably the same tbh. Dya looks marginally better I think.
Wigley probs spewed town in that instance though someone still probably murks him at night anyways just to be sure.

marmot also probably looks about the same.

explain the bold

[LinearPoint]

LP is flailing here if she thinks I’m pussyfooting around, AND that I’m scumbuddies with TSP. Worst teammate ever.
You pair are literally my main scumreads since SoD

Flailing is not how I would describe it.
Frankly I'm having a lot more fun right now. It's quite thrilling of a play style.
I think I succeeded in what I set out to do this day stirring up enough controversy to force scum into more uncomfortable positions.

Like Petit is probably Mafia based on their progression towards their vote on me (or lack there of at times)
TSP has not handled the pressure I put on him very well and I think he's had fairly scummy responses to it.
I think the last solve is in NAA, Sig, Dya, and Wilgy.
Maybe Scooty or jack, but both have looked better in the last few pages.

[hollowkatt]

Per what hk and Urist have said, figuring out if dunya is a wolf or town will hopefully also shed some light on Jack and/or TSP.

explain wrt TSP specifically?

hollowkatt posted a thunk that I liked that said something like "do town TSP and town Jack push town dunya in this gamestate", and I think that is a definite no, so if dunia is town I think it means at least one of them is a wolf.


TSP and Jack are both excellent players (as either alignment) and have plenty of history with dunia, so both of them being town and wrong on this would be very hard to believe.


You could probably add Syn and myself to the list with Jack and TSP, but I don't think Syn nor I are nearly as capable as pushing town!dunya if we're wolves.

why i gotta be included in the self slandering

Felt right to write

[dunya]

@dunya What did u do N1?

Nothing.

[dunya]

I targeted dunya last night with druid level 2

hot take

this is a reason to kill dunya

hotter take: this is why I've been so reluctant to chop her today. I want to know what was done.

What

[dunya]

Should I have been alerted with some damage note if hk targeted me? Cos if so, he's lying.

[hollowkatt]

which is why I'm landing on resolve dunya today and deal with that fallout tomorrow.
If dunya = wolf then by extension scotty and myself look poorly. I think syn might as well.
LP probably looks a touch better but I'm not discounting w/w wagons at all here.

TSP/Jack look really good off of that. Urist less good.

You and Raskol are probably the same tbh. Dya looks marginally better I think.
Wigley probs spewed town in that instance though someone still probably murks him at night anyways just to be sure.

marmot also probably looks about the same.

explain the bold

I have the two of you tangentially linked together in my notes. My notes are in my brain btw not written down.
anyways, I don't think it's enough of a link for me to say "dunya flipped wolf lets get Syn" but definitely linked enough that dunya flipping wolf is going to make me ask myself "was syn wrong to defend or was syn defending a partner". GTH I think dunya wolf pockets town syn before syn and dunya as a pack conspire to "do bad things to town".
Mostly it's getting all my thoughts into the thread before eod so that if I do die ppl know what I was thinking and if I don't die ppl have things to engage me with

[dunya]

Level two: The Trees Whisper (informed what actions, if any, were taken against your target–you receive this report the following night)


Oh, nice HK. Sorry, forgot the druid wasn't KP

[hollowkatt]

LP is flailing here if she thinks I’m pussyfooting around, AND that I’m scumbuddies with TSP. Worst teammate ever.
You pair are literally my main scumreads since SoD

Flailing is not how I would describe it.
Frankly I'm having a lot more fun right now. It's quite thrilling of a play style.
I think I succeeded in what I set out to do this day stirring up enough controversy to force scum into more uncomfortable positions.

Like Petit is probably Mafia based on their progression towards their vote on me (or lack there of at times)
TSP has not handled the pressure I put on him very well and I think he's had fairly scummy responses to it.
I think the last solve is in NAA, Sig, Dya, and Wilgy.
Maybe Scooty or jack, but both have looked better in the last few pages.

"I caused controversy to force people into uncomfortable positions" is an incredibly wolfy thing to post. I know this b/c I've said as much several times as wolf.

[hollowkatt]

Should I have been alerted with some damage note if hk targeted me? Cos if so, he's lying.

I'm a druid lulz

[dunya]

HK reluctant to yeet me

HK voting me

[Syn]

which is why I'm landing on resolve dunya today and deal with that fallout tomorrow.
If dunya = wolf then by extension scotty and myself look poorly. I think syn might as well.
LP probably looks a touch better but I'm not discounting w/w wagons at all here.

TSP/Jack look really good off of that. Urist less good.

You and Raskol are probably the same tbh. Dya looks marginally better I think.
Wigley probs spewed town in that instance though someone still probably murks him at night anyways just to be sure.

marmot also probably looks about the same.

explain the bold

I have the two of you tangentially linked together in my notes. My notes are in my brain btw not written down.
anyways, I don't think it's enough of a link for me to say "dunya flipped wolf lets get Syn" but definitely linked enough that dunya flipping wolf is going to make me ask myself "was syn wrong to defend or was syn defending a partner". GTH I think dunya wolf pockets town syn before syn and dunya as a pack conspire to "do bad things to town".
Mostly it's getting all my thoughts into the thread before eod so that if I do die ppl know what I was thinking and if I don't die ppl have things to engage me with

i brought dunia to 7 votes and begged someone to hammer, wdym

i spent an entire page this morning painting a world where dunia is a wolf

you ignored it tho because you were included in that world

[Syn]

anyway i find it interesting that after my solo posting and specifically pointing out that w!dunia would set it up so LP and Scotty die after her that several people have come out to specifically say that if dunia flips wolf, they're going to immediately chop Scotty

[hollowkatt]

which is why I'm landing on resolve dunya today and deal with that fallout tomorrow.
If dunya = wolf then by extension scotty and myself look poorly. I think syn might as well.
LP probably looks a touch better but I'm not discounting w/w wagons at all here.

TSP/Jack look really good off of that. Urist less good.

You and Raskol are probably the same tbh. Dya looks marginally better I think.
Wigley probs spewed town in that instance though someone still probably murks him at night anyways just to be sure.

marmot also probably looks about the same.

explain the bold

I have the two of you tangentially linked together in my notes. My notes are in my brain btw not written down.
anyways, I don't think it's enough of a link for me to say "dunya flipped wolf lets get Syn" but definitely linked enough that dunya flipping wolf is going to make me ask myself "was syn wrong to defend or was syn defending a partner". GTH I think dunya wolf pockets town syn before syn and dunya as a pack conspire to "do bad things to town".
Mostly it's getting all my thoughts into the thread before eod so that if I do die ppl know what I was thinking and if I don't die ppl have things to engage me with

i brought dunia to 7 votes and begged someone to hammer, wdym

i spent an entire page this morning painting a world where dunia is a wolf

you ignored it tho because you were included in that world

oh yeah, that was a thing that happened. ok, you're town if dunya is a wolf.

[Syn]

also urist completely dropped his fake scum read on dunia entirely after the series of posts this morning and is hard committing to going elsewhere

[Syn]

hollowkatt also began to waffle, and is now going "maybe syn wolf if dunia is wolf?"

[hollowkatt]

HK reluctant to yeet me

HK voting me

I'm being a fickle filly today

[Syn]

why did all the people I specifically built a world around veer out of their way to be as scummy as possible afterward

[Syn]

surely it can't be naked openwolfing

[dunya]

What does pussyfootimh mean

Wild words

[Syn]

[VOTE: tsp] aubergine this is a useless vote because urist will switch his soon

[dunya]

[VOTE: tsp] aubergine

[hollowkatt]

why did all the people I specifically built a world around veer out of their way to be as scummy as possible afterward

this post and your avatar are a perfect match.

[Syn]

[VOTE: tsp] aubergine

lol

[Dolby]

hello again

I'm gonna have to read TSP's ISO aren't I

[dunya]

I mean it's a wagon thay isn't me or LP and I think tsp is wolfy in a vacuum.

[TonyStarkPrime]

it’s very towny

[dunya]

I haven't read anything beyond rask mention asking me.whay I did and the post above it where hk says he targeted me ftr

[TonyStarkPrime]

I mean it's a wagon thay isn't me or LP and I think tsp is wolfy in a vacuum.

[TonyStarkPrime]

smh

[dunya]

I hope you go over today, tsp. I really do.

[TonyStarkPrime]

[TonyStarkPrime]

I hope you go over today, tsp. I really do.

If you’re town this would be very stupid and so therefore idgi

[Dolby]

it’s very towny

ok thanks TSP, I don't need to read TSP's ISO anymore. I know it's towny bc TSP told me

[Syn]

hello again

I'm gonna have to read TSP's ISO aren't I

hi dolby you quoted a post of mine where I established a dichotomy between lp and dunia and said they were w/w

but this reply ignored my previous posts where i argued they would not be w/w

is it possible they are w/w? it feels unlikely to me. Dunia has refused to engage or push toward LP and has tried to get the vote off of her today with an attempted Wilgy push, but with LP just rolling over, would w!dunia expend so much energy trying to save a w!lp that has given up?

dunia also did this with scotty on d1 with her creature push.

however, it is also worth noting that dunia herself was a competing wagon around these times, so was she trying to get the vote off of her or off of a teammate?

what are your thoughts

[Jackofhearts2005]

It is interesting how there is so much chatter around Scotty, but the man has 0 votes.

A vote for Dunya today is a vote for Scotty tomorrow if Dunya flips wolf anyhow.

[VOTE: dunya] aubergine

Alright time for mass analysis.

Easy stuff out of the way.
Scotty and TSP are so obvious mafia it's not even funny. But I have a strange feeling they will not be lynched until day 4 minimum.
Marmot and HK are probably the only two people putting in an effort into this game that feel genuine and are pretty obvi Town.
Duyna is probably Town do to multiple odd wagonomics pointing towards Mafia!Duyna as an unlikely scenario.
Syn always shares an alignment with Duyna, so probably Town.

Difficult things.
Wilgy and NAA are impossible to read as they are doing a lot of their normal NAI stuff.
Sig still hasn't posted, so yeah...
Dya feels like they are in their scum meta atm. Pretty similar progressions to reads and approach to wagons as in GoC.
petit's votes and reads are really odd. I cannot tell their alignment easily as I haven't played with them. Could go either way with a scumlean.
Jack I've been trying to get a better read on today but I'm still equally as lost as i was early today when it came to reading him. I'm thinking Town, but their reasoning for reads isn't very good.
Urist feels Town since D1 and my confidence in this read has been steadily growing all of D2.
Dolby also feels a bit more like Town. They at least feel somewhat genuine, though I would be lying if I said I really was able to read their posts. They frankly go in one ear and out the other.

It’s posts like these that make me keep wanting you gone before anyone else.

[VOTE: LP] aubergine

I can’t shake this feeling

A new lap record.

[Syn]

alright it's 3 AM bye

gonna wake up to 30 notifications and cry in the club

I only woke up to 17

[Jackofhearts2005]

4 minutes got damn

[dunya]

Does pussyfooting mean wishy washy

How was that term coined

What brought it about is it a reference to cats on water

[dunya]

It is interesting how there is so much chatter around Scotty, but the man has 0 votes.

A vote for Dunya today is a vote for Scotty tomorrow if Dunya flips wolf anyhow.

So if I flip town Scotty is auto town ? Why?

[Jackofhearts2005]

I wonder if w/w wagons here just go for it or how much off ramp looking they do

You tell me. You and jack and even dunya have been part of
The Resistance to putting LP over.

Again with the dishonest assertion that I'm trying to protect a player I don't even have a reason townread rather than trying to yeet the player I've been casing all day. I flat asked you to make the argument twice and you passed. Yet you keep bringing it up anyway with nothing to back it up because....

You'reawolf

[Syn]

dunia and tsp suddenly duking it out is interesting, especially with dunia claiming to have read nothing

[Jackofhearts2005]

It is interesting how there is so much chatter around Scotty, but the man has 0 votes.

A vote for Dunya today is a vote for Scotty tomorrow if Dunya flips wolf anyhow.

So if I flip town Scotty is auto town ? Why?

I said nothing of the sort.

[Syn]

i have to go prep my stew

[Dolby]

hello again

I'm gonna have to read TSP's ISO aren't I

hi dolby you quoted a post of mine where I established a dichotomy between lp and dunia and said they were w/w

but this reply ignored my previous posts where i argued they would not be w/w

is it possible they are w/w? it feels unlikely to me. Dunia has refused to engage or push toward LP and has tried to get the vote off of her today with an attempted Wilgy push, but with LP just rolling over, would w!dunia expend so much energy trying to save a w!lp that has given up?

dunia also did this with scotty on d1 with her creature push.

however, it is also worth noting that dunia herself was a competing wagon around these times, so was she trying to get the vote off of her or off of a teammate?

what are your thoughts

I was trying to be funny but I do personally think that Dunya and LP have high partner potential.

That said, uh, in those three posts I am not seeing any compelling reasoning for them not being w/w.

I guess there's an arguement to be made that Dunya could switch to bussing LP after LP's first d2 appearance but eh, just think they're still partnered.

Also think that she isn't wolf if Scotty v from wagonomics

[TonyStarkPrime]

It is interesting how there is so much chatter around Scotty, but the man has 0 votes.

A vote for Dunya today is a vote for Scotty tomorrow if Dunya flips wolf anyhow.

So if I flip town Scotty is auto town ? Why?

this is bad logic


The contrapositive and logical equivalent of


IF DUNYA = WOLF THEN SCOTTY = WOLF

is

IF SCOTTY = TOWN THEN DUNYA = TOWN

which is not what you said

[TonyStarkPrime]

I think Dunya wolf and Scotty town is reasonably likely though

[Dolby]

TSP is just a w/e slot tbh

[Jackofhearts2005]

Jack sorry I think he’s town

Hee ho?

I mean he who?