The Syndicate

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:06 pm im too ashamed to play again on thesyndicate, im not stable enough for mafia and not smart enough too. im sorry for wasting everyones time and robbing multiple ppls chances of having fun. i feel frightened at the thought of leaving another community yet again like ive done so much times already bcuz i know self-isolation can be harmful but my sense of justice tells me this is right. i cant help but feel id just be a bother for everyone and id rather not be a bother. sorry

It sounds like a platitude to say "everyone makes mistakes", but it's true. Lord knows I've done far more egregiously terrible shit in mafia games, and I'm still somehow allowed to play this danged game.

Trust me when I say that I really really enjoyed playing with you, even at the end, and would be extremely sad if I never got to do so again. You're a lot of fun to be around. Can't have the Powerpuff Girls without Bubbles.

then again, something something mechanics

i'm more referring to earlygame tbh, when i was getting pushed even without mechanics

i thought i was hard to misdunk too zzz

either i no longer know how to project town or you people have very high opinions of my wolfgame

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:28 am

Amy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:25 am

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:23 am @tutuu i hope you’re ok and not beating yourself up too much. i don’t hold anything against you and no one else should either. mistakes happen. live and learn. gg

seconding

not that i wasn't salty initially [and not that i'm not still a LITTLE salty...]

but i think it's been agreed that the play was suboptimal and thus i don't want you to beat yourself up over it. 's just a game, at the end of the day

also the PPG meme was both excellent and hilariously accurate on all fronts

i enjoyed that meme immensely

amy, who thinks she's smarter than she actually is

tutuu, who's... definitely bubbly, that's for sure

hally, who can and will fight you

together we fight crime and lose mafia games

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:23 am @tutuu i hope you’re ok and not beating yourself up too much. i don’t hold anything against you and no one else should either. mistakes happen. live and learn. gg

seconding

not that i wasn't salty initially [and not that i'm not still a LITTLE salty...]

but i think it's been agreed that the play was suboptimal and thus i don't want you to beat yourself up over it. 's just a game, at the end of the day

also the PPG meme was both excellent and hilariously accurate on all fronts

iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:56 pm this setup in general was not a good "postcap light" setup


i mean i still dont think its a good setup in general but ESPECIALLY in postcap light


which im more and more questioning the concept of in general

60 wallposts is not light

60 iaafr posts is light

in my defense i frankly wasnt sure how else i could townclear myself

yall gotta slow down for these light games tho like forreal

proto hammer was just egregious

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:42 pm i correctly figured out amy’s peek on nanook wasn’t clearing at least and that tutuu actually was peeked clear by amy

and also that nanook Knew Too Much

but then i doubted myself after i ran out of posts and redirected tutuu to nanook instead of the other way, which is potentially what ended the game?

idk man

had to be exactly nanook to LC and winning the 1/5 die roll

cause tsp's a dweeb who wouldn't allow the 1-1-1 f3

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:39 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:31 pm Gg guys and gals

The day vig could only be used on mafia kek

what happened the night before? i redirected tutuu to amy, so she got italian

but then amy was blocked? so no jailkeep, just a roleblocker plus day vig?

and you just blocked amy and let me redirect tutuu?

tutuu manually targeted me

so probably either you were the one JK'd, or the JK only stopped killing actions from affecting the target and nanook was bullshitting to say otherwise

iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:37 pm

iaafr wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:48 am maybe the sole purpose of amys role was to misclear nanook

Amy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:50 am rabbit what the flying fuck are you doing

i understand you can't answer this question but jesus christ dude

19/30

in my defense

apparently all the wolves peeked as Yes

there just happened to be only one left, and he just happened to be the only italian claim in the game

i apologize if anything i said towards you was overly harsh but i was sincerely baffled at how you were scumreading me for literally the entire game

alright well we lost

gg tutuu nice wolfing

[mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention] if you're scum pls don't slowroll

i just got called into work so my day just got 10x more unpredictable. we'll see what happens

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:54 pm

Amy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:06 pm hally can you please post to confirm that you're town

i did already

but hi again

you love to see it

taking a nap and praying to god it's not nanook either and that the team is just already voting me

when i get back: towncasing myself and then scumcasing tutuu. possibly reverse order. we'll see what my brain wants

hally can you please post to confirm that you're town

unsurprising vote count is unsurprising

the way tutuu's playing makes me think tutuu/lc

if games still on when i wake up i reread to analyze that possibility

done wasting posts for now

if i call nanook v for peek related reasons

lc being 3p means tutuu/hally 100% w/w

lc being wolf means one villa in tutuu/hally

idk what correct play is tbh. headaches back

hally nanook hard deconfirmed

leaves:
tutuu/nanook
tutuu/lc
hally/lc

we learn morw when lc shows i guess

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:16 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:15 am Tutu if you’re town it probably is correct to not be voting yet fwiw

Nanook, if you're town, you should have listened to my reads ages ago.

I am not unvoting the wolf.

yeah hally/lc team rescinded this is a wolf glgl

way tutuu's pushing on me now feels SUPER super wolfy but i know I'm highkey vulnerable to omgus when it feels like the person pushing me is talking past me and just trying to get me dunked... which sadly is not always wolf indicative

idk if she's a wolf hopefully town finds me i can chill

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:07 am

Amy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:02 am and a KZA bus was NOT necessary at that stage of the game

He literally self-voted lmao

Amy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:02 am I absolutely would have tried to kill you N1 as a wolf

I know that's what you tried to do. Benson saved me N1.

You can't convince me that you're villager because I am immune to manipulation.

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Hally, if you're pretty damn sure Radishes is a wolf, surely Amy is finally outed scum from your PoV, right?

kza didn't fucking selfvote until nanook slammed him into the turf

i was on kza BEFORE nanook slammed him into the turf

you see what i'm saying? me pushing kza there would have been completely needless. "blah blah distancing" yeah but kza was on nobody's radar and me saying "i have no read on kza because he's not posting" would have been the easiest goddamn thing in the world

i'm done i'm out i'm sleeping. if you're town and you don't unvote me then you'll have to live with the consequences when LC checks in shrug

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:05 am posting to confirm i see the red check

now you know it’s not me/nanook as wolves

when long con checks in you’ll know i’m not wolves with him either and whether nanook/lc are wolves together

Amy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:40 amLC is presumably not 80% ascetic in this world. Actually I don't buy LC being 80% ascetic at all, because Colin and Proto both had actions succeed on him N2. Fuck. I actually AM an idiot. LC's just a wolf lmao.

how do you know that?

like, if they were blocked by LC’s asceticism, they’d get no result, right? what if they just interpreted “no result”
as “didn’t go anywhere?”

also im pretty damn sure radishes was a wolf and i know that i redirected him to lc. i also know lc claimed to be hit before i said that. this isn’t possible if radishes is a wolf and lc is also a wolf unless lc actually just fakeclaimed he was hit when he saw the failed nk without even knowing my action

i got an explicit fail result when my action failed. i suspect proto/colin would get the same. idr about colin but i remember proto specifically worded his as "target did not use an action"

also gonna point out that it's entirely possible to yolo fakeclaim a broken vest when your nk fails without knowing anything else that went down. just finished a game on DLP where i snapclaimed JOAT after our N3 kill failed and very nearly won the ensuing claim battle (wound up dunking outside the claims and then i killed my counterclaimant overnight). LC being a wolf pretty much demands he be competent at fakeclaiming, given all the crumbs, so that's not something i'm ruling out

and i'm still not 100% on radishes being a wolf, though i agree he looks v wolfy.

i have more thoughts but they're not coming oput coherently i'm gopnna sleep for real

I'm gonna go to bed.

If the game's over when I wake up, know that I tried my ass off when we got down to the wire and I'm not sure what else I could have done short of "not be multitabling for the first half of the game". And I sincerely apologize for constantly dropping huge bits of analysis and then fucking off to sleep before I can properly contextualize them. Sorry iaafr.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:46 am Thank god I told Amy she is supposed to be pushing for LC being Mafia cuz she couldnt seem to figure out how to fake her PoE on her own and I took pity on her and thought she could use some help!

@Hally how do you respond to this?

Surely you'll vote Amy here right?

Alright look. I'm about to waste a bunch of words if you're a wolf and you can just ignore them in that world. But I still think it's possible you're town, because you've played super villagery off tone and a Hally/LC world (or even a Hally/Nanook world I guess but I still want to believe Nanook's clear) explains the NK situation that I previously thought was largely only explainable by you being a wolf.

Pull up my ISO. Flick through it a bit. Note my position on KZA - very similar to that of Benson. On him before Nanook was. Do I do that if I'm a wolf? I'll tell you as a bit of self-meta that I wouldn't - I hate bussing, especially unnecessary bussing, and a KZA bus was NOT necessary at that stage of the game, since it was pre-Nanook. Not something I would do as a wolf.

I absolutely would have tried to kill you N1 as a wolf, and I absolutely wouldn't have Radishes carry KP if he were my partner, so there's no way the scum kill would have ever wound up breaking LC's vest if I were a wolf. You can believe I'm wolfing with LC, if you want... but if that's the case, let's just dunk LC? Because he can be a wolf fmpov too - and if we dunk him, and he flips wolf, and you smell a bus, we can do this same song and dance over again in f3 assuming neither of us is the NK.

Note my midgame complacency. Game seemed locked, yeah? Two wolves dead, very likely 3. Billions of seemingly mechanically clear folks running around. What more did I have to do than let the PoE run its course?

Note how I ramped up solving when it became clear that the PoE wasn't running its course correctly, and was going to land on me. Take a look at said solving. Note my perspective. Ask yourself if it legitimately seems like fake wolf solving.

I don't know what more I can do to convince you that I'm a villager. I don't know what more I can do to convince you that the nightkills look completely different if I'm a wolf - because, again, the PoE was always coming for me eventually; as a wolf, I'd need a way to widen the PoE, find people to kill before me. You think I'd choose to do so by tinfoiling the cop instead of just killing her and pushing on unconfirmed villagers?

So look. Don't snapvote. Let's chill and figure it out. I don't even know if I'm sold on LC wolf. I don't know WHAT I'm sold on. But it's 6 AM and I don't want to lose to a town on town vote while I'm asleep.

twentywhatever/60

[mention]tutuu[/mention] if you're town get your vote off me

if it's LC/hally we lose as soon as they wake up if your vote's still parked

take the time to THINK about it

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thinking further about 3rd parties or lack thereof

if it's 2/2/1 we've basically already lost, yeah? misdunk for sure ends the game, wolfdunk... sends LC home victorious? which also ends the game, because then we're just at regular parity instead of parity + a townsiding 3p

the only world in which the game isn't already over if LC is really 3p is one in which LC sticks around after his wolf dunks and can kingmaker town in the 1/1/1 f3. but that's... such a ridiculous long shot, and a really stupid way for that role to work imo. so i think if LC is town we might have already lost anyways? idk

the alternative, of course, is that it's 3/2 with LC wolf. which makes the game actually winnable

23/60

Actually I don't buy LC being 80% ascetic at all, because Colin and Proto both had actions succeed on him N2.

if you read literally nothing else i post, read this

and note that literally the only other person to ever target long con is hally

if long con is not 80% ascetic, hally's failure to redirect on n4 is confirmed not due to that

and becomes, fmpov, a straight up lie

[and becomes from everyone else's pov a possible indicator that I'M w/w with LC lmao. but. work with me on this one]

22/60

OK.

Night 2 proves that Hally is not a wolf roleblocker, as Dizzy's action would have failed if they were. It doesn't necessarily prove the redirect - there's actually, surprisingly enough, 0 hard evidence showing Hally to be a redirector - but it does indicate in that direction, regardless of their alignment.

tutuu's peek is unprovable because all of her cleared targets flavorclaimed before she peeked them

Hrm this is actually potentially notable. If Hally is ascetic, they MUST be a redirector, or else Colin's track would have failed. At this point I'm willing to assume w!Hally is ascetic in any world; ergo, Hally is a redirector regardless of alignment. Easy.

Only unaccounted for nightkill is Night 2. Possibilities:
- scum tried to kill tutuu
- scum tried to kill tim (probably the least likely world, i'd think?)
- scum tried to kill long con (this almost always requires hally wolf outside the realm of asinine coincidence)
- hally redirected a KP carrying radishes into long con

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So anyways maybe I'm an idiot for believing 3p claims and we should just dunk Long Con.

Night 1 in a tutuu/Long Con world: probably means that Hally successfully bonked the kill with their redirect. Dunno why they let Radishes carry KP but ok. Off chance they shot Tim, I guess. Either way: Long Con very early on claims a broken vest, before Hally's claim. Probably means that Hally targeting him with the redirect is sheer coincidence? Which is odd, and makes this perhaps the less likely world.

Night 1 in a Hally/Long Con world: honestly I think they try to shoot top town tutuu and get blocked by Benson. This explains tutuu's N1 survival better than pretty much any theory other than "tutuu wolf". Long Con sees this, claims vest broken. Hally claims to have redirected MR onto LC to back both the MR wolf narrative AND the LC vest broken narrative. MR's probably just a hapless villager in this world lol.

LC is presumably not 80% ascetic in this world. Actually I don't buy LC being 80% ascetic at all, because Colin and Proto both had actions succeed on him N2. Fuck. I actually AM an idiot. LC's just a wolf lmao.

And I think the Hally/LC world makes a surprising amount of sense.

This is all pending a reread of Day 5, though.

21/60

ALIVE:
Amy - Alternating Post Add/Subtract; parity flavor scan
NANOOK - 1x dayvig
tutuu - Nationality scan; mech knowledge that all wolves are Greek [effectively alignment cop]
Hally - full redirector; fails if redirecting mafia to mafia
Long Con - 3rd party; bulletproof vest, 80% ascetic; wins if participates in 2 wolf dunks [and survives? or just wins and exits? unclear]

DEAD:
KZA - wolf
Master Radishes - unknown, but likely wolf
colonialbob - wolf
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Alison - alternating tracker/doctor
Tim - unreliable inventor
Dyslexicon - 1x fullcop
Benson - 2x doctor
Colin - tracker
Proto - 1x... voyeur? w/ parity check between target and target's target
WWH - [1x? unclear] vote thief
iaafr - prevented from claiming via role mechanic
nutella - 1x cleaning nightvig; 80% chance to succeed if vs wolf, [20%?] chance to succeed if vs town

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NIGHT 1:
Amy - add posts to iaafr - succeeds/no parity
NANOOK - N/A
tutuu - peek colonialbob - peeks as Greek
Hally - redirect Master Radishes to Long Con
Long Con - N/A - BPV broken

Alison - no submission, randed protection to Tim
Tim - build soapbox (+posts) for iaafr
Dyslexicon - holster
Benson - protect tutuu
Colin - track LC - no visit
Proto - target LC - no action used
WWH - votesteal MR
iaafr - ??? - gains posts from both Amy and Tim
nutella - shoot MR

NIGHT 2:
Amy - subtract posts from Dizzy - succeeds/no parity
NANOOK - N/A
tutuu - peek WWH - peeks as French
Hally - redirect colin to WWH
Long Con - N/A

Tim - build security system for tutuu
Dyslexicon - peek WWH - peeks town | loses posts from Amy
Benson - protect tutuu
Colin - track Hally - visited Dizzy [explained by redirection to WWH]
Proto - N/A
WWH - votesteal Dizzy
iaafr - ???
nutella - N/A

NIGHT 3:
Amy - add posts to NANOOK - succeeds/parity
NANOOK - N/A - gains posts from Amy
tutuu - peek nutella - peeks German
Hally - redirect iaafr to WWH
Long Con - N/A

Colin - track Proto - nightkilled
Proto - N/A
WWH - N/A
iaafr - ???
nutella - N/A

NIGHT 4:
Amy - subtract posts from tutuu - succeeds/no parity
NANOOK - N/A
tutuu - peek Hally - fails | loses posts from Amy
Hally - redirect Amy to Long Con [fails via tutuu losing posts from Amy]
Long Con - N/A

iaafr - ???
nutella - N/A

NIGHT 5:
Amy - add posts to Hally - fails
NANOOK - N/A
tutuu - peek Amy - peeks Greek
Hally - redirect tutuu to Amy (who she was already targeting)
Long CON - N/A

nutella - N/A

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might stare at this for a bit

what if it's hally/long con

lemme finish this mech post first but

i was hit by thoughts

i'm marinating the possibility of scum!LC chill

workin on this mechpost first

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:35 am Actually can we just rule out tutu lone mafia world? Successful fake peek here doesn’t win her the game, not with her claiming manual target of Amy (so there’s no out of “Hally redirected me to herself and that’s where my red peek came from” in f3)

So she has to have a partner if she’s mafia

i already mentioned this

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:23 am

Amy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:21 am I'm. Somewhat inclined to think that w!Hally wouldn't suddenly pivot their action when they know that doing so means I'm gonna get a fail result? Unless they were banking on exactly me thinking tutuu is a roleblocker. I'm not gonna bank the game on it, though.

I guess really what it boils down to is that there's ALWAYS a wolf in Hally/tutuu, because either the peek is faked or the redirect went somewhere else. So really I just need to solve for X, I suppose.

Would they do this as w/w? I feel like they should know that if they went for the blatant frame job I'd wind up sussing both of them. Idk I need to reread how it all played out.

13/60

If that’s their play they don’t really care about you, yeah? They’re just trying to buy a Nanook or LC vote and power through

Mm yeah I guess.

World just seems weird to me after how yesterday played out, mostly.

...what purpose is there to a mafia ascetic redirector? What roles did we have?

I'm gonna compile a mechpost.

15/60

I hate that we're in a gamestate where I can't just crossvote the person with an incorrect redpeek on me because they still might be town.

Delete redirectors.

14/60

I'm. Somewhat inclined to think that w!Hally wouldn't suddenly pivot their action when they know that doing so means I'm gonna get a fail result? Unless they were banking on exactly me thinking tutuu is a roleblocker. I'm not gonna bank the game on it, though.

I guess really what it boils down to is that there's ALWAYS a wolf in Hally/tutuu, because either the peek is faked or the redirect went somewhere else. So really I just need to solve for X, I suppose.

Would they do this as w/w? I feel like they should know that if they went for the blatant frame job I'd wind up sussing both of them. Idk I need to reread how it all played out.

13/60

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:14 am Ok so the claims from last night are

Hally redirects Tutu to Amy
Tutu targets Amy herself, reports red check
Amy targets (I don’t remember?) gets (not mafia check IIRC)


@Amy remind me who your claimed check is on?

I targeted Hally and my action failed.

12/60

Scenario:
- Amy targets Hally with postcount boost/flavor parity check; action fails
- Hally redirects tutuu to Amy
- tutuu manually peeks Amy; claims redpeek

I'm working with the advantage of knowing the redpeek is not correct. This means that either tutuu is lying, or was redirected onto someone who is Greek. I also know that tutuu cannot be the lone wolf via Hally's aforementioned redirect.

Possibility 1:
- Hally solo wolf (ascetic redirector); Hally redirects tutuu to Hally

The biggest issue with this world is whether or not Hally can self-target with the redirect. Places I've played previously would have fairly universally said no, I think, but I have no idea if that's syndicate-standard; wondering if [mention]Long Con[/mention] is able to weigh in at all. Still, think this is one of the less likely ones at a glance.

Possibility 2:
- tutuu wolfing with Nanook; Nanook carries KP, tutuu fakes redcheck, one of them roleblocks Amy

Obviously any w!Nanook world requires believing Nanook to be both a godfather and a dayvig; this world SPECIFICALLY requires believing that Bob was absolutely turbobussed D2. Notably I THINK this is the only world fmpov in which Hally's a villager.

Possibility 3:
- Hally wolfing with Nanook; Hally ascetic redirector, redirects tutuu to [self/Nanook]

This one would be galaxy brain play from the Hally/Nanook team tbh, but it's not entirely out of the realm of possibility. See all above caveats about wolf Nanook.

Possibility 4:
- Hally wolfing with tutuu; Hally ascetic redirector, does whatever, tutuu fakes redcheck

Weird world given how yesterday played out, but mechanically possible.

So:

Hally
Hally/Nanook
Hally/tutuu
tutuu/Nanook

are the worlds fmpov.

I'm rereading before I do any voting.

On the plus side, I also have the advantage of knowing that if tutuu parks and it's Hally/Nanook I'm getting quickhammered as soon as they're both online, so that's nice (and it'll be nice to confirm them not the team if they don't)

LC, strongly requesting you wait before voting. I'm town; dunking me will not advance your wincon.

11/60

linki: Nanook, from your perspective I think that covers it aside from the "Hally can self-redirect" world

I'm also realizing I'm excluding "LC is a lying liar who lied" worlds but. I don't really know what to do about him, tbh.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:56 am It means that you are going to die.

i wouldn't be surprised

whoever the wolves are have taken great care to set me up

i do, however, detest being the game-losing misdunk, and will fight to prevent it from happening

dropping this post to say that i have acklowledged your redcheck and refute it

parsing to figure out what this means, since you're hardconfirmed not lone wolfing

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:57 pm Sorry, solo mafia godfather roleblocker with a silent day shot I didn’t use on the claimed cop

yeah it's. certainly not the likely world. i'm just making sure i have all my bases covered.

dunno i'm prolly just gonna chill until tutuu shows up/until hally gets back re: what their submitted action was

8/60 i accidentally did 6 twice oops

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:53 pm Yep, that’s me, the solo godfather with a silent day shot I elected not to use on the claimed cop.

Gg you got me

...actually, if you're the solo godfather you MIGHT want the cop to live

but yeah idk man game is hard.

might be stuck in a tunnel of not wanting to have been snowed by hally idk

but like... all my worlds have things that make them hard to wrap my head around. so what gives?

6/60

mm

if nanook is the lone wolf, he'd have to be a roleblocker intentionally framing me (and/or tutuu, based on yesterday's results)

but then we get to the question of "why didn't he start blocking tutuu earlier"

or like "why didn't any town investigative get roleblocked at any point"

or "why didn't any town role that would give any kind of result whatsoever get roleblocked before tutuu claimed roleblocked"

god what the fuck is going on in this game

6/60

actually is there a world where tutuu/hally are v/v and nanook is a solo wolf

i THINK that if i'm willing to doubt my peek i feel like it's mechanically possible

but like... lol.

5/60

or rather just tutuu's, i guess. hally you did do tutuu=>me yeah?

4/60

nutella hardconfirmed v means radishes w very very likely

which means... what, exactly?

hally radishes looked super not w/w

hrm. i'll consider the 2 wolf world still possible because LC still needs to dunk a wolf for his wincon, assuming he's telling the truth

so the question becomes: assuming i'm not overlooking any possible worlds, who do we dunk to effectively lock the game?

CAN we dunk someone to effectively lock the game? i become less certain of nanook's alignment the longer he lives, if only because i expected him to die 2 nights ago and he just. hasn't.

if we dunk nanook:
- a v flip hardconfirms that we're in the solo hally world
- a w flip confirms nothing, but points more strongly to the tutuu world

if we dunk hally:
- a v flip ends the game in a loss
- a w flip either ends the game in a win or points to the nanook world

if we dunk tutuu:
- a w flip points to the nanook world
- a v flip points to the hally world... but also ends the game in a loss, if nanook and hally are both wolves

based on that nanook is the safest dunk but that's like. S tier infodunking. i'm not dunking solely off of that. want to hear tutuu and hally's results.

tutuu hardconfirmed not solo wolf.

nutella dying over nanook is. interesting.

amy, LC, nanook, hally, tutuu remain

LC still almost always 3p, imo.

possible worlds:

A. nanook/tutuu w/w, hally v. nanook is wolf dayvig, tutuu is wolf roleblocker. nanook carried KP and tutuu's roleblock was redirected to me by hally

B. hally ascetic wolf redirector, tutuu v. can't not redirect tutuu, because any result tutuu got that wasn't a result on me is outing. forced to stick to the redirect plan and hope i misinterpret my action failing. no idea on nanook's alignment in this world - possibly still v?

2/60

...so my action failed.

1/60

part of me wants to waste all my posts so i can force myself to take the night off

one of those days, fellas

27/30

i have effectively a greenpeek on nanook, in that he claimed italy as his country and i have a result confirming that he shares either country or school with me (i'm italian/classical)

26/30 i counted my posts

idk when the cap's lifting because idk when day ends lol