The Syndicate

If it goes to f3 with odd/ted/spf then just kill odd obviously

Otherwise he’s more clear than anyone else so it’s fine imo

Mac you also pushed LC and didn’t push anywhere else that I recall so

Big meh

Naw it's a pretty much locked POE rn, me/you/mac and PC if the game isn't over by then

Just the way the game is rn. Tbh I feel like we're headed towards a nanook/mac 1v1 but I'm not entirely sure that's the correct solve.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 9:49 am Mechanically cleared people

SPF -

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We have deduced she is the song Magpie from the album King Of The Limbs. Herm was tracked to Master Radishes' house the night he checked for the album King Of The Limbs. Herm only checks songs. That implies that Master Radishes was the civilian notified of Herm's check, thus, there are not any non-civillians on the album King Of The Limbs.

Herm wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:01 am
Herm wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:18 pm My album is also The King of Limbs, so I assume me and Rasishes are the only ones with that album, which probably explains why I was seen visiting.

So once I'm miseliminated, just continue the game with that info in mind.
Oh lol, sorry about that typo Radish.

Herm wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:05 pm The King of Limbs (0 Scum, Radishes)
Note : Read herm's flip, by "0 scum" he means that he didn't get a rolepeek of any card while checking the album, which means there are no NON-CIVILLIANS on that album. Herm was using "scum" here to refer to both 3p and mafia.

tedxtr -

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I claimed a song from the album Kid A. Herm told us that there aren't any non-civillians on Kid A, and my claim was proven to be true by Poison.

Herm wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:38 pm To start off, my role sounds a bit similar to Poison's role, but I assume it's not entirely the same.

I'm some kind of Song Cop.

I scan albums each night, looking for roles.

N1 I scanned the Amnesiac Album, but I didn't get any results. I'm supposed to get results if there's any scum roles on this album. If town is on this album they should be notified of my search. Not sure how this works tbh.

N2 I scanned Kid A. No results this time either. So I assume there's no scum on this album.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 5:10 am Hard claim album Kid A, song Optimist or whatever it is, Optimistic

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:27 am Ted didn't lie about his song.

Oddmerta -

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Herm checked Amnesiac and Kid A. Nobody from the album Amnesiac or Kid A claimed to have received a notification from Herm, but Oddmerta heavily hinted to receiving one. As a 3p, he'd have to have a role peek on Herm and also gambit on whether the person from Kid A or Amnesiac were dead or alive. Thus, Occam's razor suggests that he's just the town from one of those albums that also happened to receive the notification.

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:20 am
Herm wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:38 pm To start off, my role sounds a bit similar to Poison's role, but I assume it's not entirely the same.

I'm some kind of Song Cop.

I scan albums each night, looking for roles.

N1 I scanned the Amnesiac Album, but I didn't get any results. I'm supposed to get results if there's any scum roles on this album. If town is on this album they should be notified of my search. Not sure how this works tbh.

N2 I scanned Kid A. No results this time either. So I assume there's no scum on this album.

My role also has this Day 1 thing tailored to it, that if I don't have any votes at EOD of D1, then I'm bp for N1.

I was successful, but I think I was too scummy to be targeted N1 lol.
Ok so Herm is town, I know it. We need to get rid of Dyachei for faking tracker results

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:27 am Best to start thinking of a world where Herm is town amd dyachei is scum

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:31 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:30 am
Herm wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:28 am Yes, but it is randomized. So only one townie on an album gets notified of the search.
Lol.

I commend you trying, but like no. =p
I think he is telling the truth

Dizzy -

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Poison chose to inspect the song High and Dry from the album "The Bends". Poison claimed that this specific song is civilian aligned and Dizzy's claims fits the description of that song to a T. Here's how :

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:06 am I used The role card and got High and Dry. Civ. Conditional tracker and can make a post upon their death. I'll elaborate on it later.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:02 pm You can yeet me if you want. I can post (but maybe only once don't remember) after I'm dead too. Not that I would be helpful lol. =p
Also, we know Dizzy is a conditional tracker, but the detail there being the "make one post after you die" seals the deal.
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Clarifications :

I have previously mentioned that SPF should be outed 3p if Poison doesn't have the songs to pick from tonight. That is actually incorrect.

If our assumption of SPF being Magpie is correct, then she's always lock cleared. Truth is, if 3p had a visiting role, they probably DID actually visit Poison, but it's not SPF.

Again, whether Poison has the songs tomorrow or not doesn't matter for SPF's alignment as long as our assumption of her song is correct. 3P could be another person and SPF got caught in the crossfire, but as long as she's Magpie, it doesn't matter because of the point I've made about her.

[mention]juliets[/mention]

Welp

I guess I’ll actually have to try tomorrow, RIP

If they have a last man standing wincon and/or can’t win until f3, then it’s locked

If not then order might matter. Idk kinda just want to kill LC and figure it out from there if the game isn’t over

I mean yeah, it’s probably not 100% mech solved

So order matters probably but idc enough to figure out what the correct order is. Probably something like LC>Jules>you, but idk

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:24 pm On phone, if you type something for like a minute or two and you don’t hit send, once you do, the site shuts down. Is that an issue just for me?

Yeh that happens to me too. Back button then post again works for me

*enough to fight

Yeah man idc enough time fight lol

I don’t think my dying loses the game so it’s whatever, we have enough clears to win regardless I think

If I were 3p I’d probably be conceding kek

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:08 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME I have decided to bash you

I think we have a 90% chance of winning this game, so....ok

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:01 pm I'm surprised to see nobody has tinfoiled him.

He’s hard checked town dude

Like 100% mech confirmed

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:51 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:14 am Probably nobody will die

Btw we’re not considering killing poison until her shots are used up, if she’s town and we kill it’s basically gamethrowing
so basically you'll yeet me after using me. that sounds bad ~

That isn’t what I said? I just said you’re off the table until you’re out of shots, that doesn’t imply I want to kill you as soon as that happens lol

If they’re a survivor with no NK they can’t win tho, two clears would lock it and we have three

If it’s something fucky I guess we still need to pay attention

Eh guess it depends what 3p wincon is

This game is just locked if there’s no NK isn’t it kek

Idk I’m pretty deep in Mac’s pocket at this point

Lolololol

So SPF just clear, nice

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:38 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:14 am Nook really didn't ever outright state that he thought Tutuu was the 3p. There was no actual fear of her flipping 3p. He just sheeped Alison's policy yeet notion. I can see the real 3p doing that.
No I didn’t

I explicitly thought she was town and I would kill her anyways

Not for whatever Alison’s policy thing was

Because it was annoying and I had the time to be petty

*EBWOP

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:14 am Nook really didn't ever outright state that he thought Tutuu was the 3p. There was no actual fear of her flipping 3p. He just sheeped Alison's policy yeet notion. I can see the real 3p doing that.

No I didn’t

I explicitly thought she was town and I would kill her anyways

Not for whatever Alison’s policy though was

Because it was annoying and I had the time to be petty

Good enough for me tbh

I’m actually curious what you’re clearing me for

Not that I mind obviously

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:25 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:20 am In a game with the amount of town clears this one has had “I did too much scumhunting so I can’t be 3p” isn’t a thing

Cause 3p was forced by gamestate to townside or be pushed into a narrow POE
And yet, it's Long Con and he didn't really townside at all. Interesting that.

I mean sure, that’s also possible! I’m just saying that a defense of “but I townsided!” is meh given how this game has gone. Cause the alternative to 3p townsiding is what’s happened to LC where he’s in a narrow POE

In a game with the amount of town clears this one has had “I did too much scumhunting so I can’t be 3p” isn’t a thing

Cause 3p was forced by gamestate to townside or be pushed into a narrow POE

That being said getting full rolecard is janky af tbh and makes me wonder why poison has waited so long to use it, but idk

Or maybe it’ll be RNGed? Unclear.

Probably nobody will die

Btw we’re not considering killing poison until her shots are used up, if she’s town and we kill it’s basically gamethrowing

I have a noted lack of a sense of humor

Presumably voting the rogue will work, or this game would be over since we don't have any town KP left and mafia are all dead lol

Correct yeah

It’s poooooosible I misread his flip at first

Man it really sucks that we killed herm lmao

Idk man I’m tired. Just dictate it tbh I’m too tired to think good mechanics lll

Ehhh what I was thinking doesn’t work actually, nvm. If someone has a song on the cleared albums that’s who should be checked, otherwise it’s not that helpful lol

I think I’d like poison to check me tbh

juliets wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:54 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:34 am What do you mean what mech

The stuff I’ve been talking about re: what roles/claims make sense as 3p
Maybe I'm thinking about this all wrong but couldn't the role claims only be part of the story? Like with dya/Logic, they did have tracks but they also had kills. Couldn't that be true of anyone? And we don't even have claims for Mac and SPF. Straighten me out if I'm not understanding or my logic is faulty (anyone is welcome to straighten me out!).

Sure. But logic’s claim didn’t stop us from killing them, did it?

What do you mean what mech

The stuff I’ve been talking about re: what roles/claims make sense as 3p

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:21 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:59 amBut rn we’re basically in D1 with an inno child in ted
What does this mean?

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:08 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:26 pm And obviously Joseph and I are still not within the ranks of the magpie, but if it is a recruitment, I'd like to volunteer tonight!
Well, mac cannot be magpie cause he was targeted by magpie. But why can't you be magpie exactly?
I'm talking about people who have said the Magpie phrase, I thought Mac had NOT said it, like me. He could BE the Magpie role.

Ted is checked to be on a record that only contains town. So he’s functionally an innocent child (confirmed town). Otherwise we’re approaching this as if it’s D1 for the most part*

*im still considering mech tho cause I literally cannot help myself/it’s still somewhat helpful

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:45 am
Herm wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:05 pm Pablo Honey
The Bends
OK Computer (JPIC, Tim)
Kid A (0 Scum, Hally)
Amnesiac (0 Scum)
Hail to the Thief (Nutella)
In Rainbows (1 Scum)
The King of Limbs (0 Scum, Radishes)
A Moon Shaped Pool (Sprityo)
i was wrong

Oh nice

I’m clear too xD

I don’t think we have time to get rid of all the unknowns

Idk how you can look at this game with scum getting rekt by mechanics left and right and go “the cultured view is that mech sux”

Speculation over mechanics caught three or four scum so

Meh

I disagree that it’s particularly flimsy, some role claims have considerably more 3p equity than others. I’m not going to gamble the game entirely on that but ignoring it completely seems stupid to me, YMMV

I get that you’re going to push magpie as not being 3p cause there’s a good chance you are magpie but FMPOV I think there’s a solid chance it is

I mean moving forward it’s basically scumhunting

But rn we’re basically in D1 with an inno child in ted, none of our other clears are meaningful AFAIK

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:55 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:39 am Magpie makes some sense as 3p I think

PC’s bunch of stuff role also makes sense as a 3p role to me

I am but a simple man tbh
this seems like an extremely bad way to hunt for the 3p but in fairness to you, i dont see many other feasible ways to hunt for the 3p other than identifying who was the most "out of place" in the game overall

I mean

Do you have a better way than “who has a role that makes sense as 3p”

Cause I don’t think I do kek

Magpie makes some sense as 3p I think

PC’s bunch of stuff role also makes sense as a 3p role to me

I am but a simple man tbh

They clearly weren’t faking the track results but trackers can be mafia too lol

Hell yeah we did

So my 3p pool is like

Spf/PC

And fuck me if it’s not one of those yeah?

I guess LC maybe I haven’t read Jules’ thing there yet idk if it makes sense or not

Hell yeah

I hate 3p tbh 3p hunting is the worst

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:02 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:48 am LC is green checked tho
He could be 3P though. I have the following thoughts about that possibility:

1) his original claim that he was vanilla before claiming he was a vote nullifier. I know he says he was high but it still doesn't sit well with me. Can you be so high that you think your role claim says "vanilla town" instead of having an explanation of a role? He claimed vanilla at 1:49, then a pr at 1:51 at the same time saying he would take a look at me and nut, then at 1:56 said he probably forgot his role because it was so weak. How could he take a look at me and nutella if he's so high he can't read his role card? At 2:07 he said nutella should probably be yeeted, which was the truth but how did he evaluate that being so drunk/high? The whole thing just doesn't sit well with me. It seems like a slip.

2) his role claim seems weak. Who does it benefit besides himself? It keeps him from voting for someone but that someone could be town or mafia. I suspect it is a part of his role but not the whole thing. It just doesn't seem on par with the other roles people have claimed.

3) targeted Radishes N3, the night he died

4) I just don't see a lot of townie helpfulness in his posts

5) chose to vote himself (which was a vote for tutuu) after I explained twice - once to him, once to Mac - why tutuu must be town. It was clear cut. He didn't cite any policy chop beliefs, just voted her to "be sure". As I explained to him, it was a sure thing she was not scum or 3P.

The one thing that kept me from thinking he was rogue was that he claimed the album In Rainbows which was on Herm's list as "1 Scum". He only said that though because PC had said the mafia role blocker was on In Rainbows which was true (Samu). But does that mean there weren't any more non-civilians on that album? @Poison Chan can you answer this? If you say there are definitely no more non-civilians on In Rainbows then my suspicion here is wrong.

Sure maybe, tbh I don’t really care about 3p rn

Idk maybe it isn’t a thing

Cause if logic is mafia he presumably doesn’t want to have to deal with “alison was checking logic and then she died, must be cause she was going to red check him”

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