The Syndicate

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:49 pm Ok dya to br clear technically your CC doesn’t make sense and you should check it for details

I’m missing it

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:49 pm Ok so dya/LP are not aligned.

I think continuation says I should think it’s LP just because I have all day

*day = game

Ok so dya/LP are not aligned.

I think continuation says I should think it’s LP just because I have all day

[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:35 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 9:43 am I don’t think scum LP comes out of the gate today claiming Druid Lev 2 actions. I believe she used those how she used those.

Mafia aren’t picking Druid class
I think scum LP does just that because I blocked them yesterday and they're full of shit

Spoiler: show

I’m also fine with TSP dying by EoD for the record

Quick, someone else put a vote on NAA to bring him within 3 of hammer and see if mafia make some moves

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:59 am Actually, I assumed it was lylo because people were talking about losing, but I haven't fact checked any of it.

mmhmm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:58 am
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:56 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:52 am 3 is within hammer range for mafia.
ok but they are unlikely to out like that imo (hence I am not following u re wagon composition)
They are unlikely to out in lylo?

*Potential* lylo, if my theory holds up.

Does this mean you agree that we’re in lylo

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:50 am @scotty: NAA is a TR mostly out of his D1/D2 play. Moreso because he actually dropped his case on you

Why does that make him town? He never ‘dropped’ his case on me, and as a matter of fact, his wording was vague and keeping the door open on D1, (paraphrasing) ‘I might have to reassess if he’s wolf, he might be town’

Meanwhile; here we are on D3, and he’s back to scumreading me, and dropping lines like ‘we should’ve killed Scotty D1’

And even if he DID drop his case on me, why does that make him town? Wolves give townreads all the time

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:53 am
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:50 am @scotty: NAA is a TR mostly out of his D1/D2 play. Moreso because he actually dropped his case on you
Scotty basically said he tr me by saying the tsp poisoner is town, but he's still voting me.

Why wouldn’t I be? You literally just posted that claim and I was away from thread.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:16 am Tsp can you post that poison meme?

This?

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:15 am Maybe I'm wrong, but my assumption is that if was used by town, they would claim it

Well.

dya hasn’t checked in.

Also, the day just started

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:13 am Has anyone claimed the poison on TSP?

Nope. And it wasn’t you, me or LP
And urist is sure acting like it wasn’t him

Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:09 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:39 am TSP is only wolf if Sig is also wolf, that's my associative read, if Sig is wolf, we deserve to lose. We've had so many opportunities to kill Sig in the night.
If this is about the poison, the warrior who poisoned him used war1 on n1 and then skipped straight to war3 on n2.

I think the associative to make is that if tsp was poisoned by wolves, then sig is mafia.

I don’t think mafia ever do poison. It’s inefficient in a team. I think for sure this is a town action on ?tsp

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:05 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:04 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:02 am Checking in briefly to say I was probably blocked last night (or just rolled a critical miss, but probably the former), so whoever did that is rude.

I'll be back later today.
What did you {try to} do last night?

[redacted]

Yeah, I kinda feel we’re past the point of confidentiality here and need to be a bit more urgent

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:51 am I think town is getting steamrolled as well if both HK and LP are both Druids.

I am also a Druid

If I could go back and redo N0, seeing Druid in action, it’s just incredibly unbalanced in comparison to the other roles and I wouldn’t have picked it. I just figured no one else would. ‘Twas wrong.

Paladin 1 is an instant use, and can be used in conjunction with others in the same cycle. AND you get a CP for successfully healing. It wouldn’t surprise me if TSP were instahealed by a player just to get that extra CP, regardless of if they found him guilty.
Warrior 1 is super useful with 95% success rate and can kill by N3.

This is all fruitless on D3 and should have been touched on more D1 or something so whatever

Mod just confirmed that you can only use one action a cycle, so I take back everything I said here.

The healing is probably not a good play.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:02 am Checking in briefly to say I was probably blocked last night (or just rolled a critical miss, but probably the former), so whoever did that is rude.

I'll be back later today.

What did you {try to} do last night?

I’m pretty deflated rn not gonna lie.

I wish I cared less about winning the game

I’ve taken Druid 2 twice now and I’ve hit nothing btw. So I’m essentially a waste of space.

Also the easiest strategy that I just thought of:
Stay Warrior 1. Successfully attack N1 and N2.

You suddenly have 3 CP by N3 to spend. Put it all into Warrior and instantly become Warrior 4.
Free NK on top of factional kill, albeit at 55% success rate.

Why spend CP anywhere else?

Game is actually broken. If Druid had a 100% success rate I’d still take the Warrior only path. And it’s only broken because town didn’t all do the same thing, and Mafia could plan their actions.

I’m very certain this is what has been devised.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:46 am We're so far at odds on our reads, I don't see any point engaging unless you or I independently come around. I won't have much time today.

Well you just calling a watermelon a vegetable isn’t helping.

I’m open to changing my views, but you are seemingly obstinate in helping town. Ergo, why should I just trust your surface level reads?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:46 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:41 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:39 am TSP is only wolf if Sig is also wolf, that's my associative read, if Sig is wolf, we deserve to lose. We've had so many opportunities to kill Sig in the night.
Why don’t you respond to direct questions I’m asking if you instead of just more associative reads without any supportive substance
Because if I'm right and it's Urist + LP + 2 then we lose

If you're right and it's jack + tsp then we lose

The game state requires one of us to be mafia in order to win.

I don’t understand this logic. Can you break it down for me like I’m a dog?

I think town is getting steamrolled as well if both HK and LP are both Druids.

I am also a Druid

If I could go back and redo N0, seeing Druid in action, it’s just incredibly unbalanced in comparison to the other roles and I wouldn’t have picked it. I just figured no one else would. ‘Twas wrong.

Paladin 1 is an instant use, and can be used in conjunction with others in the same cycle. AND you get a CP for successfully healing. It wouldn’t surprise me if TSP were instahealed by a player just to get that extra CP, regardless of if they found him guilty.
Warrior 1 is super useful with 95% success rate and can kill by N3.

This is all fruitless on D3 and should have been touched on more D1 or something so whatever

The mislynches this game haven’t all been errant town making unfortunate reads. There have been too many voices steering the thread and sewing chaos and doubt in particular reads that it seems very unlikely that the 4th wolf is a 0 poster

Also lol case in point RE: sig

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:39 am TSP is only wolf if Sig is also wolf, that's my associative read, if Sig is wolf, we deserve to lose. We've had so many opportunities to kill Sig in the night.

Why don’t you respond to direct questions I’m asking if you instead of just more associative reads without any supportive substance

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:39 am Further, the amount of people that continue to be up in arms about sig not being dead lead me to further believe sig is just a lame fuck town

GRRR &lame DUCK town

Further, the amount of people that continue to be up in arms about sig not being dead lead me to further believe sig is just a lame fuck town

It’s very hard for me to scumread TSP without also scumreding jack as wolf too. I have them invariably linked for how they have shielded each other and given terrible reads all game.
TSP: jack is town unless I’m being pocketed
Jack: tsp is obvtown, just trust me. I can read him.
Also jack: dunya is obvwolf, just trust me. I can read her.

Those that read NAA as town: Why? Please show your work.

Those that read Wilgy as town: Why? Please show your work.

Here’s the thing: today could conceivably be MYLO if things click into place for mafia. I think we all have to solidify and form cohesive reads. Towncore needs to be more towncore.

Town reading urist today

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 9:18 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 9:14 am
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:26 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:22 am given the number of poisons I would unironically like to assert that it is almost guaranteed that I have been poisoned by the mafia (as well as, plausibly, the town) and I am therefore clear
I'd frankly assume Mafia is 4 Level 1 Warriors and tonight they will get 5 kills.
TSP is also likely poisoned by a town, based on how yesterday went.

If TSP is wolf, wolves are most likely healing him anyway, so it doesn’t matter. I doubt TSP is dying today.

Yeah, I still think my original theory here is correct.
We should chop him otherwise this is prolly lost

Yeah, probably, actually.

I’d be down to lynch him today. I think he has enough equity what with his countwrwagon for a time there yesterday that dissipated and his general spam posting. He’s talking like it’s spur of the moment but it’s coming off as intentionally chaotic and hypocritical. Like he can’t keep track of what he thought 30 minutes prior.

[VOTE: NAA] aubergine

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:29 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:50 am I remember ISOing Wilgy last night and coming to the conclusion that he’s just a wolf. Look at his reads on D1. Someone else (marmot?) called them out as surface level and that’s the best word to describe them. I would even go so far as to say he gets confused in who he trusts and suspects. I’ll go into more detail later once I’ve had my coffee and did my morning routine.

Jack can also just be a wolf. That uberconfidence in his casing of dunya is easily motivated by a wolf agenda to try and take out a player that can be very beneficial as town.
I’ll do more looking into this later too.

NAA can also die.

The 4th can be aaaaaanyone
You have a morning routine?

Yep!
7:30: wake up
7:45: wake up again
8:05: morning poop
8:07: chase the dog to get her harness on
8:15: take the dog out
9:00: get coffee and a bagel from the cart outside
9:05: give the dog a bath because she a goddamned filth monster
9:30: watch a silly video
9:40: wake up again
10:15: vote NAA
10:17: get ready for work
10:20: go to work

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 5:47 am
Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:56 am @NotAnAxehole do you have any reason to townread wilgy?
I think he's town.

why

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:58 am scotty where are you, i think you're town now, let's be friends and win the game

looks at watch
Oh shit I’m town now? Well HOWDYDOO TIME TO GO HOLD SOME BABIES AND DRINK MY MILK

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:17 am
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:06 am Ok. I do really want to know your reasonings for those reads though. I want you to convince me that you actually reached those reads legit and don’t just throw names togetherz
Scotty's emotionally charged moments throughout the game have felt legitimate and towny, and I have had times that I've vibed hard with a read of his on D2 that I've come to the conclusion that the man is just pure. At the start of the game I felt that his posts did not hold under scrutiny, but the way he's expressed himself later outweighs that.

Welcome to a game with me. I’m always a candidate to die D1 and I’m usually easier to read the longer the game goes on.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:01 am
Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:08 am
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:04 am Like I had to put in a ton of work to even reach the conclusion Duyna was town. Petit Scotty and Syn have also been hard reads. Wilvg is still an implausible read. Jack has been off and on scum and town posts. Urist is also someone you said was just fluffing
rask and syn are from my home forum i think I can read them well

Wilgy's entire ISO has been harping on a illogical Urist/Dunya w/v read. I don't think that man is town

Urist and TSP imo are pretty equivalent in the tone that I get from them but also not w/w. Also similar contribution levels. I frankly can't say that I don't TR TSP more as a consequence of the existence of his wagon and your presence on it but I really don't like that type of read while you're still alive. They're tone and the way they express themselves leaves them as black holes
So why not get off your LP high horse and vote Billy with me?

Wilgy*

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:08 am
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:04 am Like I had to put in a ton of work to even reach the conclusion Duyna was town. Petit Scotty and Syn have also been hard reads. Wilvg is still an implausible read. Jack has been off and on scum and town posts. Urist is also someone you said was just fluffing
rask and syn are from my home forum i think I can read them well

Wilgy's entire ISO has been harping on a illogical Urist/Dunya w/v read. I don't think that man is town

Urist and TSP imo are pretty equivalent in the tone that I get from them but also not w/w. Also similar contribution levels. I frankly can't say that I don't TR TSP more as a consequence of the existence of his wagon and your presence on it but I really don't like that type of read while you're still alive. They're tone and the way they express themselves leaves them as black holes

So why not get off your LP high horse and vote Billy with me?

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:37 am wouldn't it be funny if I said LP was town

I think it’d be even funnier if I said she were town.

Which I do.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:27 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:23 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:55 am Wilgy obviously looks worse with the revelation that Dunya was honest about that read.

Also, why is Sig still alive wtf? And only one poison? I'm gonna have to respec.
Bullshit it does.

That doesn't change the read. The capacity to judge the read was well and valid when Dunya was alive.
Idk man. I got some vibe from this JoH post as I skimmed. This feels like a premeditated post.

I think you’re wolf but I also agree with this post

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:50 am You are jus tmaking up excuses as to why the Mafia would leave you alive.
THEY SHOULD NOT LEAVE YOU ALIVE IF YOU ARE TOWN SYN.
NEVER!

Who is scarier early game? Mac or Syn?
Why should town Syn be killed early in this player group?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:35 am I'm all done with compromising on my reads this game. I'm only voting lp, urist, Scotty untill the three are dead.

You never got back to me on my request yesterday. You disappeared. That request was a means to help me better think you are town.

That you are ignoring that and continue to just vomit names without any backing makes me firmly scumread you.

Why am I scum? Any new insight?

I don’t think scum LP comes out of the gate today claiming Druid Lev 2 actions. I believe she used those how she used those.

Mafia aren’t picking Druid class

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:33 am LP simultaneously arguing that the wolves are gonna mega kill tonight and that she'll be able to tell us whether or not sig, a zero poster, is wolf tomorrow

which if she says she tracked sig to hk, guarantees the chop target

hmmm

LP has acted townier this start of day than you have with your actions all game

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:31 am I 100% believe Syn entered D2 knowing the Mafia night kill and going to push to mislynch Scotty and blame it on Dunya.
It's really just too convenient that Mac scum read Scotty, died N1, and Syn came out the bat ready to off Scotty and Dunya.

Plausible

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:25 am
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:24 am NAA Syn guarentees minimum 1 Mafia they mindmelded the whole EoD and it was a scummy menuvre from both.
I very much disagree with everything about this, and I don't believe there was a conspiracy to tie the votes

like, Dunya was always gonna be the yeet

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:37 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:36 pm I think people still want to yeet LP tomorrow if Dunya flips town. I don't think I want to yeet Scotty if she does.
LP should be yeeted before Dunya imo

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