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Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 7:59 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
WELCOME TO PHILOSOPHERS MAFIA: A game for 17 players.

Host ISO

Alive players (4/17):

Long Con
NANOOK
Scirrus --> Hally
Tutuu

Dead players (12/17):

KZA, chopped day 1:
Spoiler: show
Aristotle, Mafia
Master Radishes killed night 1:
Spoiler: show
????????????
Colonialbob killed day 2:
Spoiler: show
Plato, Mafia
Alison chopped day 2:
Spoiler: show
Descartes, Town
Timsup2nothin killed night 2:
Spoiler: show
Nietzsche, Town
Dyslexicon killed day 3:
Spoiler: show
Kierererekkagegrd, Town
Benson killed day 3:
Spoiler: show
Marcus Aurelius, Town
coliniscool killed night 3:
Spoiler: show
Camus, Town


Protocultures quickhammered day 4:
Spoiler: show
Lao-Tzu, Town
WerewolfHunter killed night 4:
Spoiler: show
Sartre, Town
iaafr modkilled day 5:
Spoiler: show
Rousseau, town


nutella killed night 5:
Spoiler: show
Bonhoffer, town
Amy chopped day 6:
Spoiler: show
Aquinas, Town


Polls:
Day 1:
Spoiler: show
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Day 2:
Spoiler: show
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:18 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Standard Rules:

1) Don't talk about the game outside of the game thread if you are not given permission to do so. I will modkill you.

2) Don't quote your role PM or try to discuss with wording or grammar. I will modkill you.

3) Days are 48 hours, nights are 24 hours.

4) This is a light game, so players have post counts. Players may post 60 times during the day and 30 times during the night. This restriction is lifted one hour before end of day. There may be roles that can exceed or lower these caps. If you go over your post count, I will probably be lenient and only make your action fail. But I might modkill you. Don't do it on purpose or repeatedly or I will modkill you.

5) You may character claim, role claim, and infodump with relative impunity. There may be roles that makes this disadvantaged, but this is also a fun game so roleplaying is encouraged. There is one exception. Do not talk about your decisions ability. See below for more details. If you have questions about this, ask me. I will be very forthcoming and will try to make these guidelines as clear as possible. I do not want to have to modkill anyone.

6) There are two factions in this game at the start.

7) Where applicable, non-town members get fake claims.

8) This isn't a rule per se, but don't try to match up flavor with roles. The flavor is flavor.

9) If you try anything angleshooty, I will warn you once. Then I will modkill you. Don't try to break the game.

10) Because of the busier season and tumultuous times in real life, there might be reasons for players to sub out. If this happens, I will request that subs are not discussed.

11) Mechanics:
a) Double targeting is allowed.
b) Self targeting is not allowed where roles don't allow otherwise, but it doesn't hurt to ask.
c) All names submitted by a player are considered to be targets of that player.
d) You will not be told if your action fails or is altered.
e) Ties in day polls will kill the weakest mind.
f) Majority is enabled starting day 2.
g) If you have questions, direct them to me via pm.
h) All actions are night actions unless obviously not night actions or as otherwise specified.
i) TSP order of operations: JK>[guided action]>busdrive/teleporter>controlled md>random md>roleblock>push>other actions, with time stamp being the determining factor should any other paradoxes occur. This only applies when the intuitive action solve doesn't exist or in any other way I am confused about why actions are broken.

12) SPECIAL MECHANIC: Every player in this game has a decision to make. That decision is listed in the role pm after the words "Decisions, decisions". Unless specified otherwise, these decisions must be made by the end of day zero.
IMPORTANT: these decisions may not be discussed in game. This serves two reasons. The first is that some cannot be easily falsified and thus would present the opportunity for clears. The second is that one of the purposes of this game is to force people to think about mechanics individually and privately. I don't want a big mass claim on day zero and then someone figures out what's optimal for everything.

That said, I am willing to lend my services as a mechanical thinker as necessary and can provide some gentle assistance in thinking through decisions if requested. And even if I choose not to provide assistance, it might be nice just to type up a few thoughts and recieve an answer of "hmm" back just to have a space to go over your thoughts.

13) Off topic in green, dead players may post one "aw shucks" post in red and then may continue VERY off topic conversations in red. Please don't push it.

14) The town wins by eliminating all threats to the town. The mafia win by reaching parity with the town.

15) I think that's all, but if you have any questions please pm me. Do not discuss mod communication.

16) It may be cliched, but this is supposed to be a fun game. These are site rules, but I will be policing a little harder on getting overly toxic in the thread. If you have a difficulty, contact the moderator on duty.

17) reserved for more rules

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:19 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Reserved for day 0 flavor

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:07 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
The game starts now.
Day 0 will end when everyone has checked in and has made their decision or on Monday, July 20, at 9:00 PM Eastern.

Day 0 has a post cap of 30.
[mention]Alison[/mention]
[mention]Amy[/mention]
[mention]Benson[/mention]
[mention]ColinIsCool[/mention]
[mention]colonialbob[/mention]
[mention]Dyslexicon[/mention]
[mention]iaafr[/mention]
[mention]KZA[/mention]
[mention]Long Con[/mention]
[mention]Master Radishes[/mention]
[mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention]
[mention]nutella[/mention]
[mention]protocultures[/mention]
[mention]Scirrus[/mention]
[mention]Timsup2nothin[/mention]
[mention]tutuu[/mention]
[mention]WerewolfHunter[/mention]

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:07 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
The thread is unlocked.

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:08 pm
by tutuu
hiii

town once again. never maf. livin the good life

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:08 pm
by iaafr
haha im a civvie haha

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:09 pm
by Benson
Hi. I'm Benson (aka Beluga Whale) and I hate losing.

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:09 pm
by iaafr
this is my second of sixty posts for day 0

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:10 pm
by tutuu
noooo! please dont go over the cap!!! i dont want u to get modkilled :(

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:11 pm
by Benson
I think some deity is sending me a message because I randed the character whose book I just happened to pick up the other day.

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:12 pm
by iaafr
Image

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:13 pm
by Timsup2nothin
I wouldn't waste a post on just a greeting, but I expect we will all get checked in and make our decisions so that day zero ends early so not worrying.

Hey everybody! Glad to be playing. Glad to have a new to me forum, and a host with a game, and just feeling good!

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:14 pm
by iaafr
hi tim!

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:15 pm
by Benson
iaafr wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:09 pm this is my second of sixty posts for day 0
Good to see you again rabbit. How will you survive with this postcap? lol

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:15 pm
by nutella
hey philosopals

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:15 pm
by iaafr
Benson wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:15 pm
iaafr wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:09 pm this is my second of sixty posts for day 0
Good to see you again rabbit. How will you survive with this postcap? lol
good to see you as well benson.

i probably won't, but i appreciate the concern.

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:16 pm
by Benson
iaafr wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:15 pm
Benson wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:15 pm
iaafr wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:09 pm this is my second of sixty posts for day 0
Good to see you again rabbit. How will you survive with this postcap? lol
good to see you as well benson.

i probably won't, but i appreciate the concern.
Same tbh.

Maybe I'll save my energy for a furious EoD each phase.

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:17 pm
by iaafr
oh no day 0 is actually thirty oh i see now

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:18 pm
by Benson
But like, we expect Day 0 to end pretty soon, right? Let's hope.

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:18 pm
by tutuu
in the sign up thread it says it gets lifted 1 hour before eod but it doesnt say this in this thread so i dunno

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:18 pm
by iaafr
anyway how are we feeling about the concept of property rights today?

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:21 pm
by Amy
I am so supremely confident in my abilities, and so thunderously calm + relaxed, that I will make a single irrelevant post at SOD then peace out for hours on end. I won't do anything villagery, I won't make any reads, I'll make 29 shitposts over the next 23 hours, then once D1 rolls around I'll make an unspecified number of additional shitposts. No cogent thought will escape these handsome lips. I will be illogical, haphazard, superfluous, inessential, pointless, redundant, uncalled for, unwarranted, unjustified, and gratuitous. The effen theorem will catch me with my pants betwixt my ankles. I'll vote off-wagon, talk about random nonsense, and make inappropriate japes concerning my relation to wolfchat. I am preemptively declaring any responses to this post "fair enough". I'll complain about a lack of WIM, the cause of which is nebuluous, obscure, and entirely insufficient. I will fabricate excuses and pretend I am busy to avoid posting in this thread, when in fact I will be watching cartoons and eating cheeto puffs in my underwear. More specifically, black boxer-briefs. You can't stop me. You can't misyeet me. You're powerless. I laugh in your face. I'm a villager, therefore I can do whatever the fuck I want. Go cry in wolfchat, you big baby. While you're poring over the thread, searching for any clue at all to help you in the seer hunt, know that I am still watching those cartoons and eating those cheeto puffs, nary a care in the world. My armpits are bone dry. I'm a villager, what are you going to do about it? Nothing; you will do nothing about it, because that's all you can do. Ligma. What's ligma? Ligma balls.

[VOTE: Sleep] aubergine

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:21 pm
by iaafr
didnt realize zack was a philosopher

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:21 pm
by Benson
iaafr wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:18 pm anyway how are we feeling about the concept of property rights today?
That the wolves shouldn't be allowed to own any property in my thread.

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:21 pm
by nutella
iaafr wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:21 pm didnt realize zack was a philosopher
only the best

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:22 pm
by iaafr
Benson wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:21 pm
iaafr wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:18 pm anyway how are we feeling about the concept of property rights today?
That the wolves shouldn't be allowed to own any property in my thread.
doesnt sound very principled idk mind writing a treatise on this?

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:22 pm
by tutuu
i think therefore i am

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:23 pm
by Benson
iaafr wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:22 pm
Benson wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:21 pm
iaafr wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:18 pm anyway how are we feeling about the concept of property rights today?
That the wolves shouldn't be allowed to own any property in my thread.
doesnt sound very principled idk mind writing a treatise on this?
Sure. But can you read latin?

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:24 pm
by iaafr
Benson wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:23 pm
iaafr wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:22 pm
Benson wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:21 pm
iaafr wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:18 pm anyway how are we feeling about the concept of property rights today?
That the wolves shouldn't be allowed to own any property in my thread.
doesnt sound very principled idk mind writing a treatise on this?
Sure. But can you read latin?
a quick control-f on my wikipedia article does not indicate so but latin was pretty commonly taught to all the educated class back in my day so maybe i can im not sure

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:24 pm
by nutella
i will not be writing any treatises


i will not be thinking


i will not be

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:25 pm
by nutella
oh shit my dude is actually a badass

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:26 pm
by Amy
iaafr wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:21 pm didnt realize zack was a philosopher
i've always preferred the classics

anyways: hello and sorry and advance to those who don't know me. i help run mafia universe and i assure you it's not a position i attained through prowess at the game

there's like a 70% chance i'm legit just gonna fuck off until d1 glgl

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:28 pm
by tutuu
im innocent town thats all i know

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:29 pm
by Timsup2nothin
Amy wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:26 pm
iaafr wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:21 pm didnt realize zack was a philosopher
i've always preferred the classics

anyways: hello and sorry and advance to those who don't know me. i help run mafia universe and i assure you it's not a position i attained through prowess at the game

there's like a 70% chance i'm legit just gonna fuck off until d1 glgl
As long as we have provided the answers Tony needs to advance the game to day one this seems like the legit best strat tbh.

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:30 pm
by iaafr
Timsup2nothin wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:29 pm
Amy wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:26 pm
iaafr wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:21 pm didnt realize zack was a philosopher
i've always preferred the classics

anyways: hello and sorry and advance to those who don't know me. i help run mafia universe and i assure you it's not a position i attained through prowess at the game

there's like a 70% chance i'm legit just gonna fuck off until d1 glgl
As long as we have provided the answers Tony needs to advance the game to day one this seems like the legit best strat tbh.
how so? do you not believe in day 0 intros being readable?

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:32 pm
by Alison
Pretty fucked up that I went to the trouble to get into this game with tutuu just to have her roll scum.

[VOTE: tutuu] aubergine

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:33 pm
by ColinIsCool
There is only one serious philosophical problem, and that is why I don’t have a girlfriend.

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:33 pm
by tutuu
Alison wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:32 pm Pretty fucked up that I went to the trouble to get into this game with tutuu just to have her roll scum.

[VOTE: tutuu] aubergine
WOW WTF

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:34 pm
by tutuu
ColinIsCool wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:33 pm There is only one serious philosophical problem, and that is why I don’t have a girlfriend.
thats an axiom. it doesnt need explanation but apart from that WTF ALISON

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:35 pm
by Alison
tutuu wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:33 pm
Alison wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:32 pm Pretty fucked up that I went to the trouble to get into this game with tutuu just to have her roll scum.

[VOTE: tutuu] aubergine
WOW WTF
Town tutuu D0: is excited to play the game, tells all the people she likes to play with how much she wants to play with them, pre-emptively townreads people based on town and/or enthusiasm so she can start forming a towncore of people she trusts.

Scum tutuu D0: I'm TOWN everyone. I'm innocent TOWN. Have I mentioned I'm TOWN?

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:36 pm
by iaafr
im town btw

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:36 pm
by ColinIsCool
tutuu wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:34 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:33 pm There is only one serious philosophical problem, and that is why I don’t have a girlfriend.
thats an axiom. it doesnt need explanation but apart from that WTF ALISON
Well, I for one would appreciate an explanation :p

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:36 pm
by KZA
Benson wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:09 pm Hi. I'm Benson (aka Beluga Whale) and I hate losing.
But you're so good at it!

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:36 pm
by iaafr
jesus kza wtf is that avatar

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:37 pm
by nutella
iaafr wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:36 pm jesus kza wtf is that avatar
it's PURUPU HAZE

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:37 pm
by Timsup2nothin
iaafr wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:30 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:29 pm
Amy wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:26 pm
iaafr wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:21 pm didnt realize zack was a philosopher
i've always preferred the classics

anyways: hello and sorry and advance to those who don't know me. i help run mafia universe and i assure you it's not a position i attained through prowess at the game

there's like a 70% chance i'm legit just gonna fuck off until d1 glgl
As long as we have provided the answers Tony needs to advance the game to day one this seems like the legit best strat tbh.
how so? do you not believe in day 0 intros being readable?
They are on par with the early day one RVS and shiptoasting stage, which we will have plenty of time for day one.

I guess I was thinking more in terms of getting our answers in and moving on as opposed to stretching day zero looking for benefits...but you raise a valid point. If you want to stretch it out and have an extended meet and greet that can be fun and maybe productive. I'm in.

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:38 pm
by tutuu
Alison wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:35 pm
tutuu wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:33 pm
Alison wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:32 pm Pretty fucked up that I went to the trouble to get into this game with tutuu just to have her roll scum.

[VOTE: tutuu] aubergine
WOW WTF
Town tutuu D0: is excited to play the game, tells all the people she likes to play with how much she wants to play with them, pre-emptively townreads people based on town and/or enthusiasm so she can start forming a towncore of people she trusts.

Scum tutuu D0: I'm TOWN everyone. I'm innocent TOWN. Have I mentioned I'm TOWN?
well i wasnt like jumping up and down but i was lowkey pleasant sensation from seeing i rolled town and then i tried to talk to ppl but they were all friends in between themselves and they were talking to each other and i didnt know how to interject without being too awkward so i just said the stuff i said in case someone wanted to maybe start a conversation with me or something

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:38 pm
by tutuu
also u've never seen me scum

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:38 pm
by Benson
Kaz needs to go back to the avatar that made him famous.
Image