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Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:57 pm
by nutella
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:54 pm
DkKoba wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:36 pm i literaly dont care what u think that kind of post is always town
I keep returning to this in my head, because I make a post like Alison's literally every time I am mafia and on the chopping block.
also this yeah and especially for alison

they'll just say "meta is trash" again but that kind of post absolutely fits as a scum alison tactic

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:58 pm
by nutella
here's the thing

meta isn't trash

be salty about it all you want but it is demonstrably true that the more you have played with a player and become familiar with their style the more accuracy you will have reading them

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:59 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
nutella wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:57 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:54 pm
DkKoba wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:36 pm i literaly dont care what u think that kind of post is always town
I keep returning to this in my head, because I make a post like Alison's literally every time I am mafia and on the chopping block.
also this yeah and especially for alison

they'll just say "meta is trash" again but that kind of post absolutely fits as a scum alison tactic
It's a general idea that I've toyed with in my head, but I try to avoid to much ME reads -- Alison and I have a lot of stylistic similarities, and her post history reminds me of my mafia self. Sometimes.

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:01 pm
by DkKoba
nutella wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:58 pm here's the thing

meta isn't trash

be salty about it all you want but it is demonstrably true that the more you have played with a player and become familiar with their style the more accuracy you will have reading them
thats only if they are terribad at scum and dont do anything to improve to play against the expectations for their town meta. spf has been limmed many a time from "meta' reasons from players when she was town with many games with her bc her scum game is decent enough where she can manipulate it.

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:02 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
DkKoba wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:01 pm
nutella wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:58 pm here's the thing

meta isn't trash

be salty about it all you want but it is demonstrably true that the more you have played with a player and become familiar with their style the more accuracy you will have reading them
thats only if they are terribad at scum and dont do anything to improve to play against the expectations for their town meta. spf has been limmed many a time from "meta' reasons from players when she was town with many games with her bc her scum game is decent enough where she can manipulate it.
Is Esooa's scum game terribad?

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:03 pm
by DkKoba
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:02 pm
DkKoba wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:01 pm
nutella wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:58 pm here's the thing

meta isn't trash

be salty about it all you want but it is demonstrably true that the more you have played with a player and become familiar with their style the more accuracy you will have reading them
thats only if they are terribad at scum and dont do anything to improve to play against the expectations for their town meta. spf has been limmed many a time from "meta' reasons from players when she was town with many games with her bc her scum game is decent enough where she can manipulate it.
Is Esooa's scum game terribad?
no.
but she doesnt know the meta i have on her to manipulate against her.

u have to be self aware enough as a player to manip ur own meta like that.

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:04 pm
by nutella
DkKoba wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:01 pm
nutella wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:58 pm here's the thing

meta isn't trash

be salty about it all you want but it is demonstrably true that the more you have played with a player and become familiar with their style the more accuracy you will have reading them
thats only if they are terribad at scum and dont do anything to improve to play against the expectations for their town meta. spf has been limmed many a time from "meta' reasons from players when she was town with many games with her bc her scum game is decent enough where she can manipulate it.
ok well I'm terribad at scum bc i'm too spammy as town and can't imitate it as scum without digging myself a hole


some people are good at imitating their meta to fool people, sure. but it's still reliable more often than not.

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:04 pm
by Esooa
@DkKoba did u read my stormtossed game uwu

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:06 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
~secret meta~

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:13 pm
by DaughterOfOmega
Kind of wish we kill Koba first, but Alison is mafia too so who cares

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:13 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
@nutella what would you call your best mafia-aligned performance ever?

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:18 pm
by nutella
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:13 pm @nutella what would you call your best mafia-aligned performance ever?
Uh

Really hard to say bc my meta evolved significantly a couple years ago and I had some quite good scum games before then when I didn't have such polarized townplay quality lol (Fire Emblem, Mass Effect, and Mortal Kombat come to mind as very strong ones)

As for more recent, the bar is so much lower lol, FTL was decent but as you know it was low volume and town kinda ate itself. My Hydra Mash performance from a month ago on MU was also sort of okay in that I lasted probably longer than I should have.

P much all of these relied on bussing lol.

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:20 pm
by Esooa
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:13 pm @nutella what would you call your best mafia-aligned performance ever?
http://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?f=100&t=2006

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:20 pm
by nutella
Oh I forgot S6 scrimmage which you know all about :p

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:22 pm
by DkKoba
Esooa wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:20 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:13 pm @nutella what would you call your best mafia-aligned performance ever?
http://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?f=100&t=2006
LMFAO

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:23 pm
by nutella
DkKoba wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:22 pm
Esooa wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:20 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:13 pm @nutella what would you call your best mafia-aligned performance ever?
http://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?f=100&t=2006
LMFAO
I don't think it's clever or funny

Esooa hasn't even justified her change to thinking I'm mafia other than "Alison's post was believable"

And she hasn't done any of her own solving today

So snarky stuff like this isn't impressive

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:25 pm
by nutella
Believe me I really wish I could pull a scum performance where I played like I have here

But I think that's a ways out in my evolution as a player lol

I used to be way less polarized but I got stronger as a villager and it'll take a lot of practice to level up my scum game

And I keep randing villager (except in mashes :p) so not getting a ton of that practice

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:26 pm
by DkKoba
i think its hilarious.
the gamestate was easy enough to pass by unnoticed. from your pov as scum so far.

the actions thus far prove it.

the fact we cant find votes for u show that partners are avoiding bussing u rn.

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:26 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:23 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME what are your feelings about nutella right this moment?
Still have her locked, I’ll reassess at f3 if necessary/applicable but ime early reads on nutella are the most accurate

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:26 pm
by DkKoba
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:26 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:23 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME what are your feelings about nutella right this moment?
Still have her locked, I’ll reassess at f3 if necessary/applicable but ime early reads on nutella are the most accurate
cmon dude

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:27 pm
by nutella
I've been pretty much caught D1 in all of my recent scumgames fwiw

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:28 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
DkKoba wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:26 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:26 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:23 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME what are your feelings about nutella right this moment?
Still have her locked, I’ll reassess at f3 if necessary/applicable but ime early reads on nutella are the most accurate
cmon dude
Shouldn’t be a surprise

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:31 pm
by DkKoba
whatever lol

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:34 pm
by DaughterOfOmega
I just want to lock in Koba, and then Ali tomorrow, since I am slightly less confident on her lol

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:37 pm
by nutella
DaughterOfOmega wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:34 pm I just want to lock in Koba, and then Ali tomorrow, since I am slightly less confident on her lol
Meh, I still think koba's tunnel on me has decent likelihood to be wrong town committing to it for bad reasons

They can be mafia but I feel better going for Alison here

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:43 pm
by nutella
Hm

Argument for koba mafia is (a) they've really committed to appearing they don't have TMI on me, (b) they're sticking with it because they already have the excuse to vote for me instead of alison

trouble is i really don't think mafia should have any hope left that my wagon overtakes alison's at this point

eh. I can see their commitment to the tunnel on me both ways

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:07 pm
by DaughterOfOmega
Koba is a good enough town player to recognize what Alison is doing, and come to the realization that Nutella is more likely town of the two. Also should realize that I am never with nutella or Ali, and they have kept their vote on me the entire day and not cared to read me.

There is no real evaluation from Koba. Def mafia

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:15 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
DaughterOfOmega wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:07 pm Koba is a good enough town player to recognize what Alison is doing, and come to the realization that Nutella is more likely town of the two. Also should realize that I am never with nutella or Ali, and they have kept their vote on me the entire day and not cared to read me.

There is no real evaluation from Koba. Def mafia
I’m the only one who’s had a vote on you all day

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:16 pm
by DaughterOfOmega
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:15 pm
DaughterOfOmega wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:07 pm Koba is a good enough town player to recognize what Alison is doing, and come to the realization that Nutella is more likely town of the two. Also should realize that I am never with nutella or Ali, and they have kept their vote on me the entire day and not cared to read me.

There is no real evaluation from Koba. Def mafia
I’m the only one who’s had a vote on you all day
Are you blind or trolling?

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:24 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
DaughterOfOmega wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:16 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:15 pm
DaughterOfOmega wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:07 pm Koba is a good enough town player to recognize what Alison is doing, and come to the realization that Nutella is more likely town of the two. Also should realize that I am never with nutella or Ali, and they have kept their vote on me the entire day and not cared to read me.

There is no real evaluation from Koba. Def mafia
I’m the only one who’s had a vote on you all day
Are you blind or trolling?
Are you

Are you serious ??

You also apparently thought three mafia could hammer someone at four votes today tho, so

Maybe you should pay a bit closer attention to the poll

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:30 pm
by DaughterOfOmega
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:24 pm
DaughterOfOmega wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:16 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:15 pm
DaughterOfOmega wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:07 pm Koba is a good enough town player to recognize what Alison is doing, and come to the realization that Nutella is more likely town of the two. Also should realize that I am never with nutella or Ali, and they have kept their vote on me the entire day and not cared to read me.

There is no real evaluation from Koba. Def mafia
I’m the only one who’s had a vote on you all day
Are you blind or trolling?
Are you

Are you serious ??

You also apparently thought three mafia could hammer someone at four votes today tho, so

Maybe you should pay a bit closer attention to the poll
Two things. DkKoba had their vote on me for over 12 hours, and was swapped in the last 2 hours. You are wrong, I am sorry to tell you. Not trying to be mean.

Also the OP said 12 living players, which would mean majority is 7, Alison had 4 votes, and I believed all were town. So three mafia would be 7 votes.

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:31 pm
by Grogu
Did Alison just give up?

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:33 pm
by Grogu
Hi omega, who do you want dead

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:33 pm
by Grogu
Nanook who are the scum?

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:34 pm
by Grogu
It shows Alison is here... I don’t see any posts from her. Is this normal?

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:36 pm
by nutella
hammer is 2/3 which is 8

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:42 pm
by DaughterOfOmega
nutella wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:36 pm hammer is 2/3 which is 8
So yeah, I don't know the norms of this site, but being mocked for thinking of previous sites I played on don't make me feel that good

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:43 pm
by DaughterOfOmega
Grogu wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:33 pm Hi omega, who do you want dead
Alison Koba Nanook

honestly now I think Esooa has more mafia equity than you/jay so she'd be my fourth

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:43 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Hammers aren't all that common here. Most games are plurality. Hammers have become more popular in recent memory.

Let's all be kind. Whatever it'll be, this day is almost over.

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:44 pm
by Marmot
I've added the number of votes required to hammer in the poll title.

Oven is preheating. Baking will take place in at most 3 hours 16 minutes.

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:47 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Image

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:47 pm
by DkKoba
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:43 pm Hammers aren't all that common here. Most games are plurality. Hammers have become more popular in recent memory.

Let's all be kind. Whatever it'll be, this day is almost over.
plurality is for noobs

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:50 pm
by DaughterOfOmega
The don't kill list is
DOOM
Made
SPF
Michelle
Tutuu
Nutella

The outsiders who I don't want to kill

Grogu
Jay

Auto POE
Koba
Alison
Nanook
Esooa

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:02 pm
by DkKoba
DaughterOfOmega wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:07 pm Koba is a good enough town player to recognize what Alison is doing, and come to the realization that Nutella is more likely town of the two. Also should realize that I am never with nutella or Ali, and they have kept their vote on me the entire day and not cared to read me.

There is no real evaluation from Koba. Def mafia
oh im sorry, my poe hasnt been flipped at all and now i need to reeval?
lol get real.

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:14 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
You have a POE?

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:16 pm
by nutella
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:14 pm You have a POE?
lmao mindmeld

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:16 pm
by DkKoba
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:14 pm You have a POE?
always had.

no ones queried me about it.

i dont out reads unless asked or i feel its relevant on principle.

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:17 pm
by DkKoba
just bc i dont constantly talk about it and only show it via my pushes / interactiojns with ppl doenst mean it doesnt exist.

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:17 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
All y’all swell gang should head on down to the Job sign-ups forum and click “yes” in that Spiderverse poll. :nicenod:

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:17 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
DkKoba wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:16 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:14 pm You have a POE?
always had.

no ones queried me about it.

i dont out reads unless asked or i feel its relevant on principle.
I asked you for reads and you threw a fit lol