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Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:29 am
by ilario
I don’t really plan on influencing any of the wagons today, my own reads feel like it’s In a mess rn and I think any flip is helpful at this point

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:29 am
by anne
Marmot wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:26 am Also, if Jay lists 6 townreads and 1 of them is actually a wolf, that means there are probably 2 other players among the other 9 in the game who are also wolf.

I like my odds picking 2 from the other 9, especially given that Jay's TRs were overall agreeable enough with the gamestate totday
there are 4 wolves in the game

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:29 am
by NotAnAxehole
Marmot wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:28 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:26 am
Marmot wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:21 am Ok I think nutella's town, but I still don't think iaafr is a woof
I think your read accuracy here is exactly 50%.
I'll take those odds
Accuracy =/= odds. If you are accurate on one of 2 players, both reads being town reads, you lose the game 100% of the time.

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:29 am
by staypositivefriend
actually nah i still think the mac wagon is better lol

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:29 am
by Marmot
cassandra wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:29 am we should just chop all jay's townreads because surely he included a wolf there

This is also an option

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:29 am
by Lime Coke
leetic wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:26 am
nutella wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:25 am
staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:22 am what if iaafr/mac are wolves and mac made that sudden case on iaafr on d1 to distance from him?

lol
possible

i can see a team of anne/iaafr/esooa or anne/iaafr/mac


anyway lets just flip anne today
I still have not seen a good reason from you why JJJ would prefer anne to die over Wilgy, Axehole, and MR (the lattermost of which is confirmed town)
It was the leading wagon at the time.

Wilgy was like only 2 votes, MR wasn't even a wagon, and yeah other reasons he didn't join other wagons.

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:29 am
by cassandra
anne wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:28 am i acted naive about it for one post and me saying anything about that is NAI to begin with so you're free to vote me still.
what. you voted falcon, i explained to you why mac was a better vote, you refuted it, then later on the logic was laid out to you and you still waffled lol

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:30 am
by leetic
@Lime Coke Why aren't you voting anybody right now

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:30 am
by NotAnAxehole
I think Esooa is an underrated option for today.

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:30 am
by Esooa
this rly is just going to be a game where a wolf dies day 1 and people go off on tunnels for fun and we lose

anne shouldn't be a top wagon

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:30 am
by anne
cassandra wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:29 am
anne wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:28 am i acted naive about it for one post and me saying anything about that is NAI to begin with so you're free to vote me still.
what. you voted falcon, i explained to you why mac was a better vote, you refuted it, then later on the logic was laid out to you and you still waffled lol
i did not refute it, i agreed with you. there is no hammer in this game though so im free to keep my vote on someone else until EOD, it's as simple as that.

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:30 am
by Esooa
NotAnAxehole wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:30 am I think Esooa is an underrated option for today.
I think you're a wolf

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:30 am
by staypositivefriend
Esooa wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:30 am this rly is just going to be a game where a wolf dies day 1 and people go off on tunnels for fun and we lose

anne shouldn't be a top wagon
who should be?

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:31 am
by Marmot
anne wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:29 am
Marmot wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:26 am Also, if Jay lists 6 townreads and 1 of them is actually a wolf, that means there are probably 2 other players among the other 9 in the game who are also wolf.

I like my odds picking 2 from the other 9, especially given that Jay's TRs were overall agreeable enough with the gamestate totday
there are 4 wolves in the game

That is the assumption I'm making, though I don't know if it's clearly stated anywhere

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:31 am
by NotAnAxehole
Esooa wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:30 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:30 am I think Esooa is an underrated option for today.
I think you're a wolf
Nah you don't.

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:31 am
by ilario
Esooa wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:30 am this rly is just going to be a game where a wolf dies day 1 and people go off on tunnels for fun and we lose

anne shouldn't be a top wagon
If you had sole control of the wagons which 3 would you prefer to see at the top?

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:31 am
by DrWilgy
So like. If I'm wrong on Anne that makes Nutella hard town, making Iaafr hard scum.

Mac killing Falcon on yeet is a risk I'm willing to take 100% of the time. Mostly because it's funny regardless of flip that Falcon would get cheesed like that IF TRUE.

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:31 am
by Lime Coke
leetic wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:30 am @Lime Coke Why aren't you voting anybody right now
Chaotic EOD and wagons are just shifting and we got 30 minutes left still. Don't worry I'll plant my vote on a wagon.

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:31 am
by nutella
i might miss part of the last half hour, can hopefully pop in at least once or twice more but ultimately im fine with any of anne/mac/naa going over ig

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:31 am
by anne
i even said i was voting falcon because he was voting me. i did not waffle, people just called that suspicious for no reason

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:31 am
by Esooa
staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:30 am
Esooa wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:30 am this rly is just going to be a game where a wolf dies day 1 and people go off on tunnels for fun and we lose

anne shouldn't be a top wagon
who should be?
I don't care, not iaafr or anne

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:31 am
by leetic
Lime Coke wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:29 am
leetic wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:26 am
nutella wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:25 am
staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:22 am what if iaafr/mac are wolves and mac made that sudden case on iaafr on d1 to distance from him?

lol
possible

i can see a team of anne/iaafr/esooa or anne/iaafr/mac


anyway lets just flip anne today
I still have not seen a good reason from you why JJJ would prefer anne to die over Wilgy, Axehole, and MR (the lattermost of which is confirmed town)
It was the leading wagon at the time.

Wilgy was like only 2 votes, MR wasn't even a wagon, and yeah other reasons he didn't join other wagons.
All three had significant levels of suspicion, nobody would have blamed Jay if he went after any of them, the fact that he thought anne was the best option AND he seemed really calm at EoD while w/w wagons usually cause scum to be at each other's throats tells me what I need to know

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:32 am
by DrWilgy
NotAnAxehole wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:30 am I think Esooa is an underrated option for today.
Good take.

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:32 am
by staypositivefriend
anne who do u want to kill today?

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:32 am
by cassandra
anne is a wolf

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:32 am
by leetic
Esooa wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:31 am
staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:30 am
Esooa wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:30 am this rly is just going to be a game where a wolf dies day 1 and people go off on tunnels for fun and we lose

anne shouldn't be a top wagon
who should be?
I don't care, not iaafr or anne
We need more people in here advocating better ideas. Hedging isn't helping anyone.

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:32 am
by Esooa
ilario wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:31 am
Esooa wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:30 am this rly is just going to be a game where a wolf dies day 1 and people go off on tunnels for fun and we lose

anne shouldn't be a top wagon
If you had sole control of the wagons which 3 would you prefer to see at the top?
rn only wanting to vote like NAA/Marmot

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:32 am
by Lime Coke
leetic wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:31 am
Lime Coke wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:29 am
leetic wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:26 am
nutella wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:25 am
staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:22 am what if iaafr/mac are wolves and mac made that sudden case on iaafr on d1 to distance from him?

lol
possible

i can see a team of anne/iaafr/esooa or anne/iaafr/mac


anyway lets just flip anne today
I still have not seen a good reason from you why JJJ would prefer anne to die over Wilgy, Axehole, and MR (the lattermost of which is confirmed town)
It was the leading wagon at the time.

Wilgy was like only 2 votes, MR wasn't even a wagon, and yeah other reasons he didn't join other wagons.
All three had significant levels of suspicion, nobody would have blamed Jay if he went after any of them, the fact that he thought anne was the best option AND he seemed really calm at EoD while w/w wagons usually cause scum to be at each other's throats tells me what I need to know
Was JJJ even at EOD? I thought he disappeared after he voted Anne.

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:32 am
by leetic
nutella wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:31 am i might miss part of the last half hour, can hopefully pop in at least once or twice more but ultimately im fine with any of anne/mac/naa going over ig
Hedging

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:32 am
by ilario
I thought I saw iaafr post

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:33 am
by NotAnAxehole
WHy is sloonei still in the poll over Esooa.

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:33 am
by anne
staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:32 am anne who do u want to kill today?
the person im voting and if i cant get that then NAA

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:33 am
by NotAnAxehole
ilario wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:32 am I thought I saw iaafr post
They did

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:33 am
by Esooa
cassandra wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:32 am anne is a wolf
what is your accuracy when calling anne a wolf?

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:33 am
by staypositivefriend
cassandra wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:32 am anne is a wolf
how confident are you?

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:33 am
by Marmot
Esooa wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:32 am
ilario wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:31 am
Esooa wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:30 am this rly is just going to be a game where a wolf dies day 1 and people go off on tunnels for fun and we lose

anne shouldn't be a top wagon
If you had sole control of the wagons which 3 would you prefer to see at the top?
rn only wanting to vote like NAA/Marmot

[VOTE: marmot] aubergine


lets go!!!

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:33 am
by cassandra
esooa is probably not with anne bc dont think she'd bother defending her in this way as W/W

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:34 am
by Marmot
iaafr said he could only post the one time

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:34 am
by cassandra
Esooa wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:33 am
cassandra wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:32 am anne is a wolf
what is your accuracy when calling anne a wolf?
about 50%

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:34 am
by cassandra
staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:33 am
cassandra wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:32 am anne is a wolf
how confident are you?
60%

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:34 am
by ilario
My marmot tinfoil is all gone btw, I meant to say this 12 hours ago but post cap is a thing

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:34 am
by leetic
Lime Coke wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:32 am
leetic wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:31 am
Lime Coke wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:29 am
leetic wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:26 am
nutella wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:25 am
staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:22 am what if iaafr/mac are wolves and mac made that sudden case on iaafr on d1 to distance from him?

lol
possible

i can see a team of anne/iaafr/esooa or anne/iaafr/mac


anyway lets just flip anne today
I still have not seen a good reason from you why JJJ would prefer anne to die over Wilgy, Axehole, and MR (the lattermost of which is confirmed town)
It was the leading wagon at the time.

Wilgy was like only 2 votes, MR wasn't even a wagon, and yeah other reasons he didn't join other wagons.
All three had significant levels of suspicion, nobody would have blamed Jay if he went after any of them, the fact that he thought anne was the best option AND he seemed really calm at EoD while w/w wagons usually cause scum to be at each other's throats tells me what I need to know
Was JJJ even at EOD? I thought he disappeared after he voted Anne.
Well, kind of, last post was at 7 which was around thirty minutes after restrictions had been eased

He wouldn't have been able to predict the last ten minutes turning against him

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:35 am
by NotAnAxehole
@Esooa You're just open wolf, so this probably is a pointless endeavour, but you love spew... Which part of my spew reads are accurate, and which parts are bad?

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:35 am
by staypositivefriend
let's have thread naptime and come back to this in like 24 hours imo

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:35 am
by NotAnAxehole
ilario wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:34 am My marmot tinfoil is all gone btw, I meant to say this 12 hours ago but post cap is a thing
Same

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:35 am
by Esooa
NotAnAxehole wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:35 am @Esooa You're just open wolf, so this probably is a pointless endeavour, but you love spew... Which part of my spew reads are accurate, and which parts are bad?
Your judging my play by one game if you're town

I don't care

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:35 am
by anne
staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:35 am let's have thread naptime and come back to this in like 24 hours imo
no

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:36 am
by leetic
Marmot wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:33 am
Esooa wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:32 am
ilario wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:31 am
Esooa wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:30 am this rly is just going to be a game where a wolf dies day 1 and people go off on tunnels for fun and we lose

anne shouldn't be a top wagon
If you had sole control of the wagons which 3 would you prefer to see at the top?
rn only wanting to vote like NAA/Marmot

[VOTE: marmot] aubergine


lets go!!!
[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine Fuck self voters

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:36 am
by staypositivefriend
cassandra wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:33 am esooa is probably not with anne bc dont think she'd bother defending her in this way as W/W
i dunno about that, ive seen esooa defend her partners pretty aggressively before, especially when theyre in danger of being chopped. my main concern about esooa rn is just how wildly different our perspectives are, and i dont like that she's pushing on marmot still when i think he's pretty clearly town

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:36 am
by nutella
leetic wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:32 am
nutella wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:31 am i might miss part of the last half hour, can hopefully pop in at least once or twice more but ultimately im fine with any of anne/mac/naa going over ig
Hedging
Like A shut the goddamn fuck up and B I clearly prefer anne