The Syndicate

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:20 pm**

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:07 pm Oh are we actually going to kill Wilgy on this day?

Let's kill you first IMO

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:22 pm**

Neon isn't around for much of last RD, and they come outta the gates to push Wilgy?

That's an easy wagon for a wolf to push right now, easy with a capital E

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:26 pm**

There are literally 5 loud town voices against Wilgy in the graveyard at this point (Seanzie, Lucy, Schiavetto, Anne, now Pyxxy)), this can not go unresolved another day

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:28 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:22 pm Neon isn't around for much of last RD, and they come outta the gates to push Wilgy?

That's an easy wagon for a wolf to push right now, easy with a capital E

This is what I thought the other day with what Porcha did but I think Wilgy is just outed now

I wouldn't be super shocked if Porscha progression was W/W

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:30 pm**

Also Neon was calling Wilgy outed yesterday and I don't think they're ever made EOD so I don't think that's fair critique.

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:32 pm**

This is why I should just refrain from voting at all.

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:36 pm**

I'm between Wilgy and Porscha.

I'm being forced to grapple with myself only being alive because Wilgz is town and I'm completely wrong and shielding mafia.

But I can't compartmentalize that against how many people have died arguing to kill Wilgy.

But I'm very loudly arguing to kill Wilgy and I'm not dead so the choices here are

1. I'm mafia (spoiler I'm not)

2. I'm right on Wilgy but hard shielding the deep woof that mafia put all their eggs in the basket of

3. I'm just completely wrong on everything

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:37 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:22 pm Neon isn't around for much of last RD, and they come outta the gates to push Wilgy?

That's an easy wagon for a wolf to push right now, easy with a capital E

I... what?

This is actually awful lol.

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:38 pm**

You're probably alive because you've been wagoned so seem pushable. They tried to wagon you last eod

I think me being alive matters more (sounds selfish but seriously) and it's because I shielded Wilgy.

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:40 pm**

obscurity wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:38 pm You're probably alive because you've been wagoned so seem pushable. They tried to wagon you last eod

I think me being alive matters more (sounds selfish but seriously) and it's because I shielded Wilgy.

I do not disagree with the you part

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:42 pm**

obscurity wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:28 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:22 pm Neon isn't around for much of last RD, and they come outta the gates to push Wilgy?

That's an easy wagon for a wolf to push right now, easy with a capital E
This is what I thought the other day with what Porcha did but I think Wilgy is just outed now

I wouldn't be super shocked if Porscha progression was W/W

To be fair, I also can see Porscha/Wilgy team

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:42 pm**

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:37 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:22 pm Neon isn't around for much of last RD, and they come outta the gates to push Wilgy?

That's an easy wagon for a wolf to push right now, easy with a capital E
I... what?

This is actually awful lol.

Nah

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:44 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:42 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:37 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:22 pm Neon isn't around for much of last RD, and they come outta the gates to push Wilgy?

That's an easy wagon for a wolf to push right now, easy with a capital E
I... what?

This is actually awful lol.
Nah

Neon activity takes are almost always weak sauce. I very openly pushed Wilgz yesterday nothing changed lol.

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:46 pm**

I just remembered I almost started yesterday off exactly as I did today with the Wilgy vote and push there ignoring myself and listening to dead people but then the claim stuff happened and I saw his posting and got convinced otherwise. So it was actually 2 days ago that Porcha opened up pushing Wilgy then shifted somewhere each day.

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:49 pm**

I'm gonna vote Wilgy or Porscha.

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:49 pm**

My gut on Schia was right.

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:49 pm**

Btw Wilgy did try to self pres I literally saw it like a minute before EOD he only switched when it was clear Schia was dying lol.

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:56 pm**

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:37 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:22 pm Neon isn't around for much of last RD, and they come outta the gates to push Wilgy?

That's an easy wagon for a wolf to push right now, easy with a capital E
I... what?

This is actually awful lol.

It's not that bad. I know you've been pushing Wilgy, but you also had like 8 posts last RD. You'd think you'd want to do some solving.

And Wilgy leaves you alive? Why? You can't push his wagon if you're dead

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:58 pm**

obscurity wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:49 pm Btw Wilgy did try to self pres I literally saw it like a minute before EOD he only switched when it was clear Schia was dying lol.

Town self-pres too.

Tho I'm very OK w/ Wilgy & Porscha flipping.

What if we wagon them both?

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:00 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:58 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:49 pm Btw Wilgy did try to self pres I literally saw it like a minute before EOD he only switched when it was clear Schia was dying lol.
Town self-pres too.

Yes they do but I'm pointing out he tried to make himself look towny by acting like he wasn't self-pressing and switching to Neon when right before that I refreshed and he was.

But yes I'd like to kill Wilgy and Porscha. Wilgy first though because of wagons and dead people.

Tho I'm very OK w/ Wilgy & Porscha flipping.

What if we wagon them both?

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:01 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:58 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:49 pm Btw Wilgy did try to self pres I literally saw it like a minute before EOD he only switched when it was clear Schia was dying lol.
Town self-pres too.

Tho I'm very OK w/ Wilgy & Porscha flipping.

What if we wagon them both?

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

Sorry the formatting got messed up on that, it should've been:

Yes they do but I'm pointing out he tried to make himself look towny by acting like he wasn't self-pressing and switching to Neon when right before that I refreshed and he was.

But yes I'd like to kill Wilgy and Porscha. Wilgy first though because of wagons and dead people.

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:07 pm**

obscurity wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:49 pm Btw Wilgy did try to self pres I literally saw it like a minute before EOD he only switched when it was clear Schia was dying lol.

I did nothing of the sort?

Actually confused by this one.

I voted Neon several hours before EoD when I was still tied as the Falcon vote was incorrect. I did advise that I was around during EoD, but still felt no need to vote elsewhere.

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:08 pm**

That's what I thought I saw. I admittedly could've been wrong. But I was really confused when I saw you landed off wagon.

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:10 pm**

I think a Porscha wagon coming out of nowhere is poor play today.

Yeet within me or Neon today.

Also there's a vibe within Ruri's vote for me, but it's probably just Shia's flip making me want to reassess the PoE.

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:10 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:56 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:37 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:22 pm Neon isn't around for much of last RD, and they come outta the gates to push Wilgy?

That's an easy wagon for a wolf to push right now, easy with a capital E
I... what?

This is actually awful lol.
It's not that bad. I know you've been pushing Wilgy, but you also had like 8 posts last RD. You'd think you'd want to do some solving.

And Wilgy leaves you alive? Why? You can't push his wagon if you're dead

I'm like almost 100% sure I had more than 8 posts

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:11 pm**

I did sleep 16 hours once day though so maybe I'm wrong... but I'm pretty sure I had more than 8 posts lol

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:13 pm**

obscurity wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:08 pm That's what I thought I saw. I admittedly could've been wrong. But I was really confused when I saw you landed off wagon.

Don't spew objectively false data.

I'm still good with going over. It I think gives us the best practical lylo, but this does nothing but murks up the water.

I don't think W Obs feels the need to push with something like that, but I'd be lying if I said it didn't affect my base gut read.

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:18 pm**

I didn't realize it was false. It was a minor detail though, I saw Schia say "inb4 wilg self presses" then thought I saw you self pres but I could've been wrong. Creature is clear Ruri is basically clear and Neon is my strongest townread soi think you're just outed. My POE would be Wilgy/Porcha/Falcon/NANOOK. Falcon has the positive track in his favor. NANOOK I'm a little sketched out by his claim and I'd take his wagon over Neon but Wilgy I'm sure is mafia now. Sorry to all the dead people for scumsiding for awhile etc.

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:18 pm**

Pyxxy said that* not Schia

Ok I'm going to try to sleep

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:18 pm**

Those voting Porscha,

Does Porscha only look W if they are on a team with me on it? All of Porscha's reactions to me while we were bickering does not feel wolf. Porscha should be assessed, but I don't think is the first of remaining wolves we get, if we get there. I think the order of Neon > Ruri > Porscha is correct, otherwise we miss.

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:19 pm**

Pyxxy is a somewhat good kill for me and crystallizes some things because I had some lingering paranoia.

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:20 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:18 pm Those voting Porscha,

Does Porscha only look W if they are on a team with me on it? All of Porscha's reactions to me while we were bickering does not feel wolf. Porscha should be assessed, but I don't think is the first of remaining wolves we get, if we get there. I think the order of Neon > Ruri > Porscha is correct, otherwise we miss.

Pyxxy was drilling Porscha last end of day so yes it is independent. If there's no wolves in you/Porscha I'll eat a shoe.

I'm going to assume you're in antispew now because Ruri is basically clear. Schia's role had no reason to exist without hers and scum hit outside of Creature.

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:32 pm**

obscurity wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:20 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:18 pm Those voting Porscha,

Does Porscha only look W if they are on a team with me on it? All of Porscha's reactions to me while we were bickering does not feel wolf. Porscha should be assessed, but I don't think is the first of remaining wolves we get, if we get there. I think the order of Neon > Ruri > Porscha is correct, otherwise we miss.
Pyxxy was drilling Porscha last end of day so yes it is independent. If there's no wolves in you/Porscha I'll eat a shoe.

I'm going to assume you're in antispew now because Ruri is basically clear. Schia's role had no reason to exist without hers and scum hit outside of Creature.

Shia flipping town only means that I'm wrong in one slot.

Your point on Ruri is correct and I acknowledge that I still feel very foily about that slot.

But that leads me to think it's between you/Nook/Porscha that I'm wrong on.

If I reassess all my PoE:
Creature is spewed via Jack
Falcon is spewed via Jack

Ruri is likely clear via mechanics

Obs I tr but could be wrong
Nook I tr but could be wrong
Porscha I tr but could be wrong

Now, if I'm wrong, it's within those last three, but I'm still really not wanting to be wrong. Perhaps Ruri is the one I'm ok with being wrong on as it's not really a read that came from me, I just don't think I want to be wrong on the three reads that come from me.

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:36 pm**

I do think it's worth pointing out, it does feel that there is a momentum shift within your slot Obs and I don't know what to make of it.

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:40 pm**

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:37 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:22 pm Neon isn't around for much of last RD, and they come outta the gates to push Wilgy?

That's an easy wagon for a wolf to push right now, easy with a capital E
I... what?

This is actually awful lol.

Why is this awful?

You've done it twice now, yelled Wilgy and then dipped. Makes perfect sense for the wolf on me to do and to just keep getting away with it.

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:41 pm**

I think you're outed and you can imagine I've replied to everything you say with "idontbelieveyou.gif". You left me alive thinking I'd keep defending you but I'm not a fool and I'm not letting another villager die for my own idioticy. Make the wagons between me and you if you want, I literally do not intend to spend another day alive with you alive. Yes this is dramatic but I'm mad at myself for how I've played.

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:43 pm**

Living this long also sucks I did not know the games lasted this long or i wouldn't have played but that's not anyone else's fault.

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:48 pm**

obscurity wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:41 pm I think you're outed and you can imagine I've replied to everything you say with "idontbelieveyou.gif". You left me alive thinking I'd keep defending you but I'm not a fool and I'm not letting another villager die for my own idioticy. Make the wagons between me and you if you want, I literally do not intend to spend another day alive with you alive. Yes this is dramatic but I'm mad at myself for how I've played.

Obs, I don't think you are a fool. I do in fact think you are a very good player with a strong voice and what I think is strong solving skill.

I don't think I can or it would be wise to make the wagons you and me. As I advised, I think it should be between Neon and I. When I flip, just get Neon the next day and then their teammate.

Like this game has been in a state of "let's get through the PoE" and that's just it.

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:50 pm**

And to be fair Obs, I think you were also shielding Neon yesterday as well. I see that as plenty of reason why you are still around.

Also I don't think anyone who defended Jack is going to be NK'd.

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:52 pm**

Further, can you describe to me as to why it's not Neon?

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:59 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:52 pm Further, can you describe to me as to why it's not Neon?

Only thing neon has going for her is she looked really unaligned with sabi early on

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:00 pm**

K I'm at work just popped in. Glad pyxxy died tbh I was about to tinfoil a case today

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:00 pm**

Oscar speaking of dead towns who had wilgy in poe. So did multiple of them also have you in poe. I have not forgotten and you should not either

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:05 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:40 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:37 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:22 pm Neon isn't around for much of last RD, and they come outta the gates to push Wilgy?

That's an easy wagon for a wolf to push right now, easy with a capital E
I... what?

This is actually awful lol.
Why is this awful?

You've done it twice now, yelled Wilgy and then dipped. Makes perfect sense for the wolf on me to do and to just keep getting away with it.

Reading someone for activity is scummy.

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:05 pm**

Sure but I'm town. Plus they didn't just have Wilgy POE. They wanted his neck. Anne and Pyxxy had me town. Schia had me town. Seanzie had me tinfoil territory but town. Lucy had me POE but wanted to kill Wilgy first.

Nice of you to soft defend him though, it is doing nothing but confirm my suspicions.

I've explained why I came to Neon hard town after pushing on them, but I can talk about it more tomorrow.

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:06 pm**

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:59 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:52 pm Further, can you describe to me as to why it's not Neon?
Only thing neon has going for her is she looked really unaligned with sabi early on

I really disagree with this assessment and it actually hurts my soul.

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:06 pm**

(Those are the 5 people, all recent deaths, who wanted Wilgy dead)

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:07 pm**

Like I've posted substantially less the last 3 ish days but I've tried substantially harder and only focused on trying to evolve the game and solve it.

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:34 pm**

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:05 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:40 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:37 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:22 pm Neon isn't around for much of last RD, and they come outta the gates to push Wilgy?

That's an easy wagon for a wolf to push right now, easy with a capital E
I... what?

This is actually awful lol.
Why is this awful?

You've done it twice now, yelled Wilgy and then dipped. Makes perfect sense for the wolf on me to do and to just keep getting away with it.
Reading someone for activity is scummy.

I wonder if anybody has made a read on me this game that's activity related...

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:36 pm**

obscurity wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:06 pm (Those are the 5 people, all recent deaths, who wanted Wilgy dead)

Sorry, who are the 5 players who wanted Wilgy lynched?

All NKs, or MLs as well?

Did these 5 have any other currently alive players in their POE?

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