staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 1:24 pm
also i actually went back and looked at the practice game that you're referring to: https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ame-Thread (this one, right?), and your tone seems completely normal to me. i don't get the sense that you were trying to change the way you sound at all, at least based on the first page of your ISO
And a slight V lean here for not taking my explanation about my tone at face value, tbh.
I don't get how you're not seeing my tone shift there? I tried intentionally to seem more jokingish/friendly there and got like 3 villagers on my wagon at RVS.
to be more specific i dont like how quickly Camilla conceded to calling me towny for interrogating her, when she is generally a lot more skeptical toward me and (to my memory) OMGUSed me very hard when i interrogated her on d1 of the CFC game we just played
felt a bit like she was trying to defuse my suspicions of her by calling me towny at a point when it wasn't really warranted by my questioning, especially since i was keeping my cards pretty close to my chest at that point and hadn't really posted much game related content
Re: Summer Sh*t Day 1
Posted: Thu May 04, 2023 3:09 am
by staypositivefriend
i also cant really shake the feeling that Camilla was gimmick posting at the beginning of the game bcuz she was playing on a secret alt and then tried to cover for it by saying that she was Trying To Change Her Tone when the more obvious explanation is that she was just talking differently because no one knew who she was
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 8:30 pm
I only started play mafia in super late 2021 and I've never played with Arete
Are you Lumi? I'm assuming so because of the PFP.
Oh no, I am not Lumi. I didn't even know she used this PFP previously since I've played with her when she used a different one. However it's proving to be somewhat of an issue over here so I might change it tbh. We've never met. I'm PSV, and I usually play on SDN. I'm just dabbling over here before I start vet school.
Oh, so I got it mixed up since they also use King as their PFP. Sorry =P
kind of difficult to imagine camillia organically making posts like this even in an effort to change her tone because theyre so out of character for her
i was planning on let this go because i dont want to turn the thread into a meta discussion, but it's been bothering me
Re: Summer Sh*t Day 1
Posted: Thu May 04, 2023 3:13 am
by staypositivefriend
i townlean potentialsheltervet because she seems unfettered by the pressure on her and has maintained a consistent feeling of comfort even tho a lot of the thread so far has revolved around people accusing her and bcuz the nuance of the way she is reading the ppl pushing her (ie: townreading neon and seanzie for a perceived sincerity in their read on her but then not extending the same to ted) feels organic to me
Re: Summer Sh*t Day 1
Posted: Thu May 04, 2023 3:15 am
by staypositivefriend
im not actually sure if i townlean neon anymore because the specific stuff i was soul townreading (like comfort/consistency in her wolfread on me and psv) is something that is likely to be more playstyle indicative for neon than alignment indicative. i stand by the other reads that i said in the last page
Re: Summer Sh*t Day 1
Posted: Thu May 04, 2023 3:15 am
by staypositivefriend
hopefully that's enough content to make the thread more interesting when i wake up
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 6:18 pm
But I also feel like several people have barely been here and are but ghosts skulking in the background. What do they think? What do they feel? I know not.
Hi there, I'm here now gonna read through the few pages.
Why are people voting you?
I talked him into this game, don't be rude syndicaters!
Who's him? Am I him? I'm her
As for voting me, Neon thinks I reacted scummily to Seanzie's reaction test.
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 3:01 am
slow game. i have a light townlean on seanzie and psv and (possibly) neon but that's pretty much it so far
I'm the towniest player in this game duh.
Re: Summer Sh*t Day 1
Posted: Thu May 04, 2023 4:12 am
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 3:15 am
im not actually sure if i townlean neon anymore because the specific stuff i was soul townreading (like comfort/consistency in her wolfread on me and psv) is something that is likely to be more playstyle indicative for neon than alignment indicative. i stand by the other reads that i said in the last page
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 7:04 pm[VOTE:
dennis ] aubergine
his interactions seem to me to be designed with ulterior motives in mind
let me know if he’s just generally super friendly tho. still feel like the way he’s going about it to influence somehow rather than just doing it for the sake of being friendly
Which interactions in particular are you talking about?
Dennis is friendly, but idk if I would say "super friendly".
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 1:41 pm
fwiw i feel like giving reads rn would be a LEAK due to 2 non posters
but i’ll add a wolfy remark of i kinda like where things are headed and have noticed nothing that i was going “huh wat” in my head to
a bit of a thing i spotted was alice stating a rand v read on seanzie and then making a post to spf saying she shouldn’t give him an easy villa pass, gth it feels bad but if i’m thinking about it, i don’t see what point it accomplishes as a wolf. might be a villagery progression
What do you mean by you like where things are headed?
I don’t disagree with any reads stated etc is what i meant, tho i didn’t read with too much caution
i’m a very lazy d1 player. and this isn’t even d1 yet tbh
This guy gets me
this one is probably the most relevant one
just felt like a combination of chumminess while also potentially establishing the fact that he will lay it low in the beginning by using me as a propeller for it, indirectly. (associating his play with that of a villager)
rather than just stating it out loud that he won't be solving early, or just completely saying nothing about it and just say it if he gets prodded with it
has a hint of getting ahead of the curve to me a bit
Re: Summer Sh*t Day 1
Posted: Thu May 04, 2023 6:46 am
by tedxtr
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 3:13 am
i townlean potentialsheltervet because she seems unfettered by the pressure on her and has maintained a consistent feeling of comfort even tho a lot of the thread so far has revolved around people accusing her and bcuz the nuance of the way she is reading the ppl pushing her (ie: townreading neon and seanzie for a perceived sincerity in their read on her but then not extending the same to ted) feels organic to me
i picked up on the same thing, except i was unsure if that was villagery. i voted cuz i have a habit of
as for your camilla vote, my gut feeling was to kinda "ehhh do i really buy this angle" on her reads upon me skimming again, but for some reason i don't feel compelled to vote
i'll say having psv as her highest wolf read and neon as villagery were some of the reads i kinda found a bit weird, not for the reads themselves just how she got to them. the neon read seemed off, i don't see why her posting couldn't have been that of a wolf
i mean the reason she gave for neon could be said of mostly everyone, including dennis / kate / maybe even falcon
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 3:13 am
i townlean potentialsheltervet because she seems unfettered by the pressure on her and has maintained a consistent feeling of comfort even tho a lot of the thread so far has revolved around people accusing her and bcuz the nuance of the way she is reading the ppl pushing her (ie: townreading neon and seanzie for a perceived sincerity in their read on her but then not extending the same to ted) feels organic to me
i picked up on the same thing, except i was unsure if that was villagery. i voted cuz i have a habit of*
as for your camilla vote, my gut feeling was to kinda "ehhh do i really buy this angle" on her reads upon me skimming again, but for some reason i don't feel compelled to vote
i'll say having psv as her highest wolf read and neon as villagery were some of the reads i kinda found a bit weird, not for the reads themselves just how she got to them. the neon read seemed off, i don't see why her posting couldn't have been that of a wolf
i mean the reason she gave for neon could be said of mostly everyone, including dennis / kate / maybe even falcon
*dismissing wolf reads cuz of twtbaw and i wanted to take the opposite approach this time, vote on things that seem wolfy and decide after if they become more villagery
except she already had 3 votes with mine and nobody else had any so i went with voting my pet read
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 1:24 pm
also i actually went back and looked at the practice game that you're referring to: https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ame-Thread (this one, right?), and your tone seems completely normal to me. i don't get the sense that you were trying to change the way you sound at all, at least based on the first page of your ISO
And a slight V lean here for not taking my explanation about my tone at face value, tbh.
I don't get how you're not seeing my tone shift there? I tried intentionally to seem more jokingish/friendly there and got like 3 villagers on my wagon at RVS.
to be more specific i dont like how quickly Camilla conceded to calling me towny for interrogating her, when she is generally a lot more skeptical toward me and (to my memory) OMGUSed me very hard when i interrogated her on d1 of the CFC game we just played
felt a bit like she was trying to defuse my suspicions of her by calling me towny at a point when it wasn't really warranted by my questioning, especially since i was keeping my cards pretty close to my chest at that point and hadn't really posted much game related content
[VOTE:
Camilla] aubergine
I also was kind of weirded out by Camilla's townread of me and their focus on the whole "3 names" thing, which kinda felt like just a way to justify/backtrack on the fact that they were pushing you for the same reason they townread me. Most people who first meet me default to scumreading me because I'm kind of aggressive, especially when getting the game going since I'm throwing shit at nothing.
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 7:04 pm[VOTE:
dennis ] aubergine
his interactions seem to me to be designed with ulterior motives in mind
let me know if he’s just generally super friendly tho. still feel like the way he’s going about it to influence somehow rather than just doing it for the sake of being friendly
Which interactions in particular are you talking about?
Dennis is friendly, but idk if I would say "super friendly".
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 1:41 pm
fwiw i feel like giving reads rn would be a LEAK due to 2 non posters
but i’ll add a wolfy remark of i kinda like where things are headed and have noticed nothing that i was going “huh wat” in my head to
a bit of a thing i spotted was alice stating a rand v read on seanzie and then making a post to spf saying she shouldn’t give him an easy villa pass, gth it feels bad but if i’m thinking about it, i don’t see what point it accomplishes as a wolf. might be a villagery progression
What do you mean by you like where things are headed?
I don’t disagree with any reads stated etc is what i meant, tho i didn’t read with too much caution
i’m a very lazy d1 player. and this isn’t even d1 yet tbh
This guy gets me
this one is probably the most relevant one
just felt like a combination of chumminess while also potentially establishing the fact that he will lay it low in the beginning by using me as a propeller for it, indirectly. (associating his play with that of a villager)
rather than just stating it out loud that he won't be solving early, or just completely saying nothing about it and just say it if he gets prodded with it
has a hint of getting ahead of the curve to me a bit
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 1:24 pm
also i actually went back and looked at the practice game that you're referring to: https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ame-Thread (this one, right?), and your tone seems completely normal to me. i don't get the sense that you were trying to change the way you sound at all, at least based on the first page of your ISO
And a slight V lean here for not taking my explanation about my tone at face value, tbh.
I don't get how you're not seeing my tone shift there? I tried intentionally to seem more jokingish/friendly there and got like 3 villagers on my wagon at RVS.
to be more specific i dont like how quickly Camilla conceded to calling me towny for interrogating her, when she is generally a lot more skeptical toward me and (to my memory) OMGUSed me very hard when i interrogated her on d1 of the CFC game we just played
felt a bit like she was trying to defuse my suspicions of her by calling me towny at a point when it wasn't really warranted by my questioning, especially since i was keeping my cards pretty close to my chest at that point and hadn't really posted much game related content
Are you actually reading my posts or not?
I didn't call you towny for interrogating me as this is something you'd do as either alignment. I called you villagery because you bothered to go into the Practice Game to read my tone there while as a wolf I'd think that you'd just go "Oh good so you're trying to reform your behavior" being that I know how your mindset is towards toxicity/wholesomeness in FM games and there wouldn't be any reason for you to doubt it since you'd know my alignment so you'd just accept it.
I don't engage in this sort of diffuse/appease behavior as a wolf because I know that people will wolfread me for it so my usual wolf response to pressure is to lash out, as you should perfectly be aware of. (https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ost5138703)
I OMGUS'd you in the CFC game because your main argument against me being a wolf was based on the fallacious premise being that I do not worldbuild d1 and you were pushing me for not doing so while you should be familiar with my play style as we've played together several times. I don't see the point in OMGUS'ing you here being that I've seen no signs of you pushing me in what I see to be bad faith and your skepticism towards my original reasoning was good enough that I don't want to vote you right now.
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 3:15 am
im not actually sure if i townlean neon anymore because the specific stuff i was soul townreading (like comfort/consistency in her wolfread on me and psv) is something that is likely to be more playstyle indicative for neon than alignment indicative. i stand by the other reads that i said in the last page
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 3:13 am
i townlean potentialsheltervet because she seems unfettered by the pressure on her and has maintained a consistent feeling of comfort even tho a lot of the thread so far has revolved around people accusing her and bcuz the nuance of the way she is reading the ppl pushing her (ie: townreading neon and seanzie for a perceived sincerity in their read on her but then not extending the same to ted) feels organic to me
i picked up on the same thing, except i was unsure if that was villagery. i voted cuz i have a habit of
as for your camilla vote, my gut feeling was to kinda "ehhh do i really buy this angle" on her reads upon me skimming again, but for some reason i don't feel compelled to vote
i'll say having psv as her highest wolf read and neon as villagery were some of the reads i kinda found a bit weird, not for the reads themselves just how she got to them. the neon read seemed off, i don't see why her posting couldn't have been that of a wolf
i mean the reason she gave for neon could be said of mostly everyone, including dennis / kate / maybe even falcon
I reversed my PSV read as the way that they've been handling pressure seems ~fine enough that I chalked her previous behavior to likely an anxious/jittery villager.
I singled out Neon as I have a lot of meta experienced with her and as a wolf she tends to be fairly forceful and far less organic. I've never played with Kate and Dennis while I've only played once with Falcon and I've accidentally ML'd him d1.
What exactly is your read on me rn?
Re: Summer Sh*t Day 1
Posted: Thu May 04, 2023 12:06 pm
by Camilla
[VOTE: Lemonfairy]
Re: Summer Sh*t Day 1
Posted: Thu May 04, 2023 12:08 pm
by Camilla
[VOTE: tedxtr]
Nvm.
Re: Summer Sh*t Day 1
Posted: Thu May 04, 2023 12:14 pm
by tedxtr
Camilla wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 12:04 pm
What exactly is your read on me rn?
Camilla wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 12:18 pm
excessive levels of caution.
how so? i've just said i don't feel like voting you but that you had some off things
what's cautious about that? is it cuz they both voted, but i didn't?
Mixture of that and this paragraph.
as for your camilla vote, my gut feeling was to kinda "ehhh do i really buy this angle" on her reads upon me skimming again, but for some reason i don't feel compelled to vote
i'll say having psv as her highest wolf read and neon as villagery were some of the reads i kinda found a bit weird, not for the reads themselves just how she got to them. the neon read seemed off, i don't see why her posting couldn't have been that of a wolf
i mean the reason she gave for neon could be said of mostly everyone, including dennis / kate / maybe even falcon
Ultimately it felt like you were hedging on me and just didn't bother to poke me further despite that you clearly felt that I was off to a certain level.
Re: Summer Sh*t Day 1
Posted: Thu May 04, 2023 1:00 pm
by Camilla
Shit, I thought that the highlighter color wouldn't be so blinding.
Sorry about that.
Re: Summer Sh*t Day 1
Posted: Thu May 04, 2023 1:15 pm
by Camilla
Also is it possible to reference post numbers in this site ala MU by p#XXX?
Would save a lot of time for me since I tend to do this over quoting posts.
Re: Summer Sh*t Day 1
Posted: Thu May 04, 2023 1:53 pm
by pyxxy
Camilla wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 1:00 pm
Shit, I thought that the highlighter color wouldn't be so blinding.
Sorry about that.
we live and we learn
Re: Summer Sh*t Day 1
Posted: Thu May 04, 2023 2:00 pm
by pyxxy
Camilla - idk
Dennis - it's dennis
falcon - posting a lot again, sus
Kate - maybe this is the game where I try to learn to read Kate?
Lemonfairy - hi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i wont get murderous so quickly this time around :3
Neon - it's Zenon
potentialsheltervet - sure
Pyxxy - me
Seanzie - fine
sig - eh
SixStrings - who?
staypositivefriend - favorable
tedxtr - meh
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 7:04 pm[VOTE:
dennis ] aubergine
his interactions seem to me to be designed with ulterior motives in mind
let me know if he’s just generally super friendly tho. still feel like the way he’s going about it to influence somehow rather than just doing it for the sake of being friendly
Which interactions in particular are you talking about?
Dennis is friendly, but idk if I would say "super friendly".
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 1:41 pm
fwiw i feel like giving reads rn would be a LEAK due to 2 non posters
but i’ll add a wolfy remark of i kinda like where things are headed and have noticed nothing that i was going “huh wat” in my head to
a bit of a thing i spotted was alice stating a rand v read on seanzie and then making a post to spf saying she shouldn’t give him an easy villa pass, gth it feels bad but if i’m thinking about it, i don’t see what point it accomplishes as a wolf. might be a villagery progression
What do you mean by you like where things are headed?
I don’t disagree with any reads stated etc is what i meant, tho i didn’t read with too much caution
i’m a very lazy d1 player. and this isn’t even d1 yet tbh
This guy gets me
this one is probably the most relevant one
just felt like a combination of chumminess while also potentially establishing the fact that he will lay it low in the beginning by using me as a propeller for it, indirectly. (associating his play with that of a villager)
rather than just stating it out loud that he won't be solving early, or just completely saying nothing about it and just say it if he gets prodded with it
has a hint of getting ahead of the curve to me a bit
I never solve early and I often get multiple votes for it early, which is why I said that
It takes me a bit of time to get into games, which is also why I'm shrugging off your vote on me. It's based purely on just how my personality is, which is evidently incompatible with mafia lol
