The Syndicate

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:49 am Man it is hard to get up for this.

Gramps is bad. But killing him just drags on the game into an F3 where whoever id left alive joins the wolf in killing me no matter who they are...and I don't even think I'll know who the wolf is then. Game has been...not my best, to say the least.

At least the wolves finally killed Skinner, but that makes me wonder why? I honestly just can't even tinfoil Hugh...but that leaves the wolves laughing at his reads winning the game for them. I don't have the energy to fight you Hugh.

[VOTE: Grampa] aubergine

The Grumple wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:52 am @Mr. Burns who is gramps partner? is it me, krusty, or jass

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:53 am

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:49 am Man it is hard to get up for this.

Gramps is bad. But killing him just drags on the game into an F3 where whoever id left alive joins the wolf in killing me no matter who they are...and I don't even think I'll know who the wolf is then. Game has been...not my best, to say the least.

At least the wolves finally killed Skinner, but that makes me wonder why? I honestly just can't even tinfoil Hugh...but that leaves the wolves laughing at his reads winning the game for them. I don't have the energy to fight you Hugh.

[VOTE: Grampa] aubergine

GTH who is the third?

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:59 am

The Grumple wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:52 am @Mr. Burns who is gramps partner? is it me, krusty, or jass

I dunno. If Jass somehow makes it to F3 I'd have to think it could be him I guess. Kinda surprised to see him alive now. He's the only one left with any energy and the wolves should have killed him even though Skinner was a lock town. If they skip him again they'd have to be wifom crazy I think.

So we chop Grampa and assuming we're right about him...which yesterday's lie-a-pallooza says we are...then Hugh dies and it's you, me, and Krusty at F3 and both of you wanna kill me.

Hey Hugh, are you the Doc, or are these two gonna be doc counterclaiming on me at F3 to add to my troubles?

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:00 am

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:53 am

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:49 am Man it is hard to get up for this.

Gramps is bad. But killing him just drags on the game into an F3 where whoever id left alive joins the wolf in killing me no matter who they are...and I don't even think I'll know who the wolf is then. Game has been...not my best, to say the least.

At least the wolves finally killed Skinner, but that makes me wonder why? I honestly just can't even tinfoil Hugh...but that leaves the wolves laughing at his reads winning the game for them. I don't have the energy to fight you Hugh.

[VOTE: Grampa] aubergine

GTH who is the third?

GTH Krusty, but if it's you me and Krusty at F3 no promises I don't change my mind in a fit of paranoia.

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:00 am I didn't lie tho

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:00 am I didn't lie tho

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:06 am

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:00 am I didn't lie tho

Your order of vote changes in the great EoD fracas doesn't match what I saw Gramps. Plus I already had you as a partner candidate for Allison anyway...not that there's anyone who isn't at least kind of a candidate.

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:06 am there is nothing to talk about, none of us has receipts and everyone involved has a different idea of the sequence of events

just because you and krusty went "yeah but I choose to believe anyways" doesn't mean you're right and I'm a big liar

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:08 am

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:06 am

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:00 am I didn't lie tho

Your order of vote changes in the great EoD fracas doesn't match what I saw Gramps. Plus I already had you as a partner candidate for Allison anyway...not that there's anyone who isn't at least kind of a candidate.

and what you saw doesn't match what Hugh saw

so we all saw different things somehow

although krusty seems content to just adopt Hugh's recollection

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:51 am

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:46 am Alison & Gramps flipped votes in the dying seconds to lynch Otto. Gramps had me as a scum read all game, and TR Otto all game. It makes no sense whatsoever that he switched to Otto last second.



It's Gramps, then Burns.

That explains why Gramps is a wolf like I said last phase and I agree. But it doesn't justify the order. Why do you care about it now?

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:03 am

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:59 am

The Grumple wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:52 am @Mr. Burns who is gramps partner? is it me, krusty, or jass

I dunno. If Jass somehow makes it to F3 I'd have to think it could be him I guess. Kinda surprised to see him alive now. He's the only one left with any energy and the wolves should have killed him even though Skinner was a lock town. If they skip him again they'd have to be wifom crazy I think.

So we chop Grampa and assuming we're right about him...which yesterday's lie-a-pallooza says we are...then Hugh dies and it's you, me, and Krusty at F3 and both of you wanna kill me.

Hey Hugh, are you the Doc, or are these two gonna be doc counterclaiming on me at F3 to add to my troubles?

Why is it surprising if you say at least one of my read is wrong? Can't I be here because of it and especially because I have some energy and would be vocal?

I'd have outed D4 if I were as I asked the Doc to come out.

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:13 am

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:51 am

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:46 am Alison & Gramps flipped votes in the dying seconds to lynch Otto. Gramps had me as a scum read all game, and TR Otto all game. It makes no sense whatsoever that he switched to Otto last second.



It's Gramps, then Burns.

That explains why Gramps is a wolf like I said last phase and I agree. But it doesn't justify the order. Why do you care about it now?

I guess I don't ultimately. I think Gramps first cuz his vote switch is inherently more scummy than Burns.

You'll recall I said Alison first last RD cuz I felt she was a stronger town presence and had more ability to sew doubt in the thread.


All 3 are wolves. So I dont really care.

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:14 am

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:03 am

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:59 am

The Grumple wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:52 am @Mr. Burns who is gramps partner? is it me, krusty, or jass

I dunno. If Jass somehow makes it to F3 I'd have to think it could be him I guess. Kinda surprised to see him alive now. He's the only one left with any energy and the wolves should have killed him even though Skinner was a lock town. If they skip him again they'd have to be wifom crazy I think.

So we chop Grampa and assuming we're right about him...which yesterday's lie-a-pallooza says we are...then Hugh dies and it's you, me, and Krusty at F3 and both of you wanna kill me.

Hey Hugh, are you the Doc, or are these two gonna be doc counterclaiming on me at F3 to add to my troubles?

Why is it surprising if you say at least one of my read is wrong? Can't I be here because of it and especially because I have some energy and would be vocal?

I'd have outed D4 if I were as I asked the Doc to come out.

I figured they would kill you and low key pump your legacy rather than leaving you alive to keep running the game...loose cannon. Talking to you I feel like I have at least a thread of a chance...Skinner would have vote posted and dipped and left me arguing with your legacy.

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:31 am

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:17 pm So when I flip town, dont buy any bullshit shuck and jive talk that's certainly gonna come out.

This was his last post on EoD4. Were you still around after following the thread?

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:18 am

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:14 am

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:03 am

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:59 am

The Grumple wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:52 am @Mr. Burns who is gramps partner? is it me, krusty, or jass

I dunno. If Jass somehow makes it to F3 I'd have to think it could be him I guess. Kinda surprised to see him alive now. He's the only one left with any energy and the wolves should have killed him even though Skinner was a lock town. If they skip him again they'd have to be wifom crazy I think.

So we chop Grampa and assuming we're right about him...which yesterday's lie-a-pallooza says we are...then Hugh dies and it's you, me, and Krusty at F3 and both of you wanna kill me.

Hey Hugh, are you the Doc, or are these two gonna be doc counterclaiming on me at F3 to add to my troubles?

Why is it surprising if you say at least one of my read is wrong? Can't I be here because of it and especially because I have some energy and would be vocal?

I'd have outed D4 if I were as I asked the Doc to come out.

I figured they would kill you and low key pump your legacy rather than leaving you alive to keep running the game...loose cannon. Talking to you I feel like I have at least a thread of a chance...Skinner would have vote posted and dipped and left me arguing with your legacy.

So that's why you didn't kill me? Got him

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:33 am

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:31 am

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:17 pm So when I flip town, dont buy any bullshit shuck and jive talk that's certainly gonna come out.

This was his last post on EoD4. Were you still around after following the thread?

I popped in and out, and tried to switch to Alison at EoD when I read your post about them switching, but the thread was locked.

You're locked town for me. No way you call out the last minute switch if your wolf.

The Grumple wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:18 am burns fishing for information about power role information is a bad look

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:34 am

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:18 am

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:14 am

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:03 am

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:59 am

The Grumple wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:52 am @Mr. Burns who is gramps partner? is it me, krusty, or jass

I dunno. If Jass somehow makes it to F3 I'd have to think it could be him I guess. Kinda surprised to see him alive now. He's the only one left with any energy and the wolves should have killed him even though Skinner was a lock town. If they skip him again they'd have to be wifom crazy I think.

So we chop Grampa and assuming we're right about him...which yesterday's lie-a-pallooza says we are...then Hugh dies and it's you, me, and Krusty at F3 and both of you wanna kill me.

Hey Hugh, are you the Doc, or are these two gonna be doc counterclaiming on me at F3 to add to my troubles?

Why is it surprising if you say at least one of my read is wrong? Can't I be here because of it and especially because I have some energy and would be vocal?

I'd have outed D4 if I were as I asked the Doc to come out.

I figured they would kill you and low key pump your legacy rather than leaving you alive to keep running the game...loose cannon. Talking to you I feel like I have at least a thread of a chance...Skinner would have vote posted and dipped and left me arguing with your legacy.

So that's why you didn't kill me? Got him

LOL...you already had me, remember? Like I said, I'm too tired to fight you. If I was a wolf I'd MUCH rather fight your legacy with a bunch of low energy players. You think if you were dead I couldn't just thread flood and dominate the narrative here? I'm only worn out because I'm town and Allison buried me so deep there is no way out.

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:35 am

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:33 am

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:31 am

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:17 pm So when I flip town, dont buy any bullshit shuck and jive talk that's certainly gonna come out.

This was his last post on EoD4. Were you still around after following the thread?

I popped in and out, and tried to switch to Alison at EoD when I read your post about them switching, but the thread was locked.

You're locked town for me. No way you call out the last minute switch if your wolf.

Yeah that was my follow up question 'cause I wanted you to self preserv on Alison

The Grumple wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:25 am allison mentions and talks about Krusty about 200 times over the course of 3 pages of posts

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:39 am

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:34 am

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:18 am

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:14 am

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:03 am

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:59 am

The Grumple wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:52 am @Mr. Burns who is gramps partner? is it me, krusty, or jass

I dunno. If Jass somehow makes it to F3 I'd have to think it could be him I guess. Kinda surprised to see him alive now. He's the only one left with any energy and the wolves should have killed him even though Skinner was a lock town. If they skip him again they'd have to be wifom crazy I think.

So we chop Grampa and assuming we're right about him...which yesterday's lie-a-pallooza says we are...then Hugh dies and it's you, me, and Krusty at F3 and both of you wanna kill me.

Hey Hugh, are you the Doc, or are these two gonna be doc counterclaiming on me at F3 to add to my troubles?

Why is it surprising if you say at least one of my read is wrong? Can't I be here because of it and especially because I have some energy and would be vocal?

I'd have outed D4 if I were as I asked the Doc to come out.

I figured they would kill you and low key pump your legacy rather than leaving you alive to keep running the game...loose cannon. Talking to you I feel like I have at least a thread of a chance...Skinner would have vote posted and dipped and left me arguing with your legacy.

So that's why you didn't kill me? Got him

LOL...you already had me, remember? Like I said, I'm too tired to fight you. If I was a wolf I'd MUCH rather fight your legacy with a bunch of low energy players. You think if you were dead I couldn't just thread flood and dominate the narrative here? I'm only worn out because I'm town and Allison buried me so deep there is no way out.

Try to find some energy and towncase yourself. Also maybe case your third pick

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:49 am

The Grumple wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:25 am allison mentions and talks about Krusty about 200 times over the course of 3 pages of posts

What does that tell you?

The Grumple wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:02 am

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:49 am

The Grumple wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:25 am allison mentions and talks about Krusty about 200 times over the course of 3 pages of posts

What does that tell you?

allison only mentions grampa about 60 times

she votes for both at different times, her treatment of granmpa is... um... what's the word. what's the word where you move things from here to there with tongs?

the amount she talks to and about krusty is either some extreme hardcore distancing or, (more likely, imo) not that.

allison asks direct questions to burns in the thread a couple times. otherwise almost exclusively townreads him, and mentions him a few times as a deepwolf candidate, switches to talking about burns being a serious suspect around the time she was in the boiling water

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:55 am

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:39 am

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:34 am

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:18 am

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:14 am

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:03 am

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:59 am

I dunno. If Jass somehow makes it to F3 I'd have to think it could be him I guess. Kinda surprised to see him alive now. He's the only one left with any energy and the wolves should have killed him even though Skinner was a lock town. If they skip him again they'd have to be wifom crazy I think.

So we chop Grampa and assuming we're right about him...which yesterday's lie-a-pallooza says we are...then Hugh dies and it's you, me, and Krusty at F3 and both of you wanna kill me.

Hey Hugh, are you the Doc, or are these two gonna be doc counterclaiming on me at F3 to add to my troubles?

Why is it surprising if you say at least one of my read is wrong? Can't I be here because of it and especially because I have some energy and would be vocal?

I'd have outed D4 if I were as I asked the Doc to come out.

I figured they would kill you and low key pump your legacy rather than leaving you alive to keep running the game...loose cannon. Talking to you I feel like I have at least a thread of a chance...Skinner would have vote posted and dipped and left me arguing with your legacy.

So that's why you didn't kill me? Got him

LOL...you already had me, remember? Like I said, I'm too tired to fight you. If I was a wolf I'd MUCH rather fight your legacy with a bunch of low energy players. You think if you were dead I couldn't just thread flood and dominate the narrative here? I'm only worn out because I'm town and Allison buried me so deep there is no way out.

Try to find some energy and towncase yourself. Also maybe case your third pick

My case is shit and we both know it. Pushed bad wagons, got bad chops. Sussed hard by various...who conveniently wound up dead and flipped town so I was more sus the next day but always managed to stay alive. Plus I always sound like a wolf...that's like the story of my Mafia career. I have to either spike wolves or scare them into killing me, or I am gonna end game with everyone hating on me.

You think I'm gonna suddenly turn up some post and say "but look how towny I sounded here" and change the facts?

You guys are either gonna buy the crazy narrative that I've been set up here and just made a self pres vote right into the wolves hands...or you are gonna buy the crazy narrative that rather than just bus me the entire wolf team outted into your waiting hands. I really have no way to sell you on either one...because I know they are both just crazy.

As to my third pick...I'm going out on a limb here...Grumple is the doc and Krusty is the wolf. Grumple fretting about "PR fishing" deems to confirm, and Krusty was already my choice for third wolf.

For case...hell, I was on Krusty the day we somehow got played into killing Otto. I had a case then. I was on the "there is a wolf in Otto/Krusty based on their interaction with each other" and look, it ain't Otto. I've need too busy defending myself ever since to give it much thought, but Krusty is a wolf, period.

Plus his whole "Oh, cool, you got the tean...yeah yeah, any order is fine, whatever" is pretty typical bus to the win, don't rock the boat behavior.

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:06 am There are only 3 worlds I'm seeing.

Burns/Krusty
Burns/Gramps
Gramps/Krusty

The least likely world is the third one 'cause I feel it's an easy self preserv by Krusty on Burns who would be a wolf. Alison doesn't out, Bart and I eat some if not most of the blame for the mischop since we CFD'd there first. I don't think in this world Alison ever get the idea of switching late minute to out and frame Burns which he's saying. There wasn't a lot of time and it happened way too fast.