The Syndicate

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:31 pm**

KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:29 pm I want to flip Odd so I can lazily clear LC when he's a wolf

How did you get to 86 posts?

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:33 pm**

BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:31 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:29 pm I want to flip Odd so I can lazily clear LC when he's a wolf
How did you get to 86 posts?

I gave up on the game because I wasn't having fun so now I'm in my broken meta where I don't think about anything I post

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:33 pm**

KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:33 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:31 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:29 pm I want to flip Odd so I can lazily clear LC when he's a wolf
How did you get to 86 posts?
I gave up on the game because I wasn't having fun so now I'm in my broken meta where I don't think about anything I post

Have fun KZA!!!!

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:34 pm**

KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:33 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:31 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:29 pm I want to flip Odd so I can lazily clear LC when he's a wolf
How did you get to 86 posts?
I gave up on the game because I wasn't having fun so now I'm in my broken meta where I don't think about anything I post

u call it broken i call it powering up to super saiyan 2

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:35 pm**

How is the game progresing?

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:35 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:34 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:33 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:31 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:29 pm I want to flip Odd so I can lazily clear LC when he's a wolf
How did you get to 86 posts?
I gave up on the game because I wasn't having fun so now I'm in my broken meta where I don't think about anything I post
u call it broken i call it powering up to super saiyan 2

you're going to love this, trust me. what you're seeing now is my normal state. this is a super saiyan. and this. this is what is known as a super saiyan that has ascended above a super saiyan. or, you could just call this a super saiyan two.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:36 pm**

KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:35 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:34 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:33 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:31 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:29 pm I want to flip Odd so I can lazily clear LC when he's a wolf
How did you get to 86 posts?
I gave up on the game because I wasn't having fun so now I'm in my broken meta where I don't think about anything I post
u call it broken i call it powering up to super saiyan 2
you're going to love this, trust me. what you're seeing now is my normal state. this is a super saiyan. and this. this is what is known as a super saiyan that has ascended above a super saiyan. or, you could just call this a super saiyan two.

LMAO

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:36 pm**

BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:35 pm How is the game progresing?

i think its much better than how it used to be

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:38 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:36 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:35 pm How is the game progresing?
i think its much better than how it used to be

Game is powering up to Super Saiyan 2.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:42 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:28 pm i just checked post count jjj is 1st in 2nd bo is 3rd. i need to townclear bo based off volume

so we got some problems guys our poe was rly bad and its still not good i think

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:36 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:35 pm How is the game progresing?
i think its much better than how it used to be

Huh. Broken PoE that's still bad, but the game is progressing better.

Sure, that makes sense...in BIZZARO WORLD

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:43 pm**

it was bad, now it's not good. that's colloquially progressive

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:44 pm**

it's not like it got worse

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:44 pm**

on a second stab, if a poe of nine names has 2-3 town that doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad poe

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:48 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:44 pm on a second stab, if a poe of nine names has 2-3 town that doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad poe

what are you talking about

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:49 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:28 pm i just checked post count jjj is 1st in 2nd bo is 3rd. i need to townclear bo based off volume

so we got some problems guys our poe was rly bad and its still not good i think

i feel like i just need a tsp translator

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:50 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:36 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:35 pm How is the game progresing?
i think its much better than how it used to be

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:38 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:36 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:35 pm How is the game progresing?
i think its much better than how it used to be
Game is powering up to Super Saiyan 2.

Kicking up this game into high gear!

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:50 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:49 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:28 pm i just checked post count jjj is 1st in 2nd bo is 3rd. i need to townclear bo based off volume

so we got some problems guys our poe was rly bad and its still not good i think
i feel like i just need a tsp translator

Please... A lot of your posts don't make sense to me

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:51 pm**

i understand all tsp's posts i am his official translator

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:52 pm**

KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:48 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:44 pm on a second stab, if a poe of nine names has 2-3 town that doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad poe
what are you talking about

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:49 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:28 pm i just checked post count jjj is 1st in 2nd bo is 3rd. i need to townclear bo based off volume

so we got some problems guys our poe was rly bad and its still not good i think
i feel like i just need a tsp translator

he is elaborating more on his reaction to my statement that our poe was bad (since even after he made this post i know it wasnt very clear)

i think our poe was of 5 ppl though not 9. i personally had a poe of 3 and im townreading 2 of those 3

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:54 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:52 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:48 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:44 pm on a second stab, if a poe of nine names has 2-3 town that doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad poe
what are you talking about

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:49 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:28 pm i just checked post count jjj is 1st in 2nd bo is 3rd. i need to townclear bo based off volume

so we got some problems guys our poe was rly bad and its still not good i think
i feel like i just need a tsp translator
he is elaborating more on his reaction to my statement that our poe was bad (since even after he made this post i know it wasnt very clear)

i think our poe was of 5 ppl though not 9. i personally had a poe of 3 and im townreading 2 of those 3

What's your case for Sloonei?

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:56 pm**

9 players is the POE target I have aimed for based upon game theory.

I don't think a smaller space is necessary.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:56 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:43 pm it was bad, now it's not good. that's colloquially progressive

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:44 pm it's not like it got worse

I don't think any of this makes sense

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:56 pm**

BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:54 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:52 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:48 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:44 pm on a second stab, if a poe of nine names has 2-3 town that doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad poe
what are you talking about

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:49 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:28 pm i just checked post count jjj is 1st in 2nd bo is 3rd. i need to townclear bo based off volume

so we got some problems guys our poe was rly bad and its still not good i think
i feel like i just need a tsp translator
he is elaborating more on his reaction to my statement that our poe was bad (since even after he made this post i know it wasnt very clear)

i think our poe was of 5 ppl though not 9. i personally had a poe of 3 and im townreading 2 of those 3
What's your case for Sloonei?

nada; i just have a lot of town cases

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:57 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:56 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:54 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:52 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:48 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:44 pm on a second stab, if a poe of nine names has 2-3 town that doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad poe
what are you talking about

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:49 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:28 pm i just checked post count jjj is 1st in 2nd bo is 3rd. i need to townclear bo based off volume

so we got some problems guys our poe was rly bad and its still not good i think
i feel like i just need a tsp translator
he is elaborating more on his reaction to my statement that our poe was bad (since even after he made this post i know it wasnt very clear)

i think our poe was of 5 ppl though not 9. i personally had a poe of 3 and im townreading 2 of those 3
What's your case for Sloonei?
nada; i just have a lot of town cases

Okay so you're just voting for him for no reason?

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:57 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:56 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:43 pm it was bad, now it's not good. that's colloquially progressive

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:44 pm it's not like it got worse
I don't think any of this makes sense

That's the point... with a dash of smarmy TSP hu our!

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:57 pm**

*humour

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:58 pm**

BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:57 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:56 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:54 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:52 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:48 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:44 pm on a second stab, if a poe of nine names has 2-3 town that doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad poe
what are you talking about

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:49 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:28 pm i just checked post count jjj is 1st in 2nd bo is 3rd. i need to townclear bo based off volume

so we got some problems guys our poe was rly bad and its still not good i think
i feel like i just need a tsp translator
he is elaborating more on his reaction to my statement that our poe was bad (since even after he made this post i know it wasnt very clear)

i think our poe was of 5 ppl though not 9. i personally had a poe of 3 and im townreading 2 of those 3
What's your case for Sloonei?
nada; i just have a lot of town cases
Okay so you're just voting for him for no reason?

well no and also yes

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:58 pm**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:05 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

What moved you?

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:59 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:58 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:57 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:56 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:54 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:52 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:48 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:44 pm on a second stab, if a poe of nine names has 2-3 town that doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad poe
what are you talking about

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:49 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:28 pm i just checked post count jjj is 1st in 2nd bo is 3rd. i need to townclear bo based off volume

so we got some problems guys our poe was rly bad and its still not good i think
i feel like i just need a tsp translator
he is elaborating more on his reaction to my statement that our poe was bad (since even after he made this post i know it wasnt very clear)

i think our poe was of 5 ppl though not 9. i personally had a poe of 3 and im townreading 2 of those 3
What's your case for Sloonei?
nada; i just have a lot of town cases
Okay so you're just voting for him for no reason?
well no and also yes

Is sloonei just down in your PoE because you have town read a bunch of people already and Sloonei isn't one of them?

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:59 pm**

This is why I am working with a POE pool of 9 players:

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:59 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:56 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:43 pm it was bad, now it's not good. that's colloquially progressive

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:44 pm it's not like it got worse
I don't think any of this makes sense

@tutuu translate

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:59 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:56 pm 9 players is the POE target I have aimed for based upon game theory.

I don't think a smaller space is necessary.

poe is such a multi-use word

it can be used for "list of suspects"

it can also be used for "process of elimination"

list of suspects and process of elimination are two things that are not the same

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:00 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:59 pm This is why I am working with a POE pool of 9 players:

Spoiler: show
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:14 pm I'd like to determine an ideal POE pool target size. 22 players presents some awkward alignment ratios, so it's difficult to project. For now I am ignoring talk of multiple mafia teams and operating under the assumption there is only one. If so, I see three arrangements that could be reasonably plausible:

a) 16:4:1:1
b) 16:5:1
c) 17:5

The correct answer, if it's any of those, is dependent upon role strength. I have no idea. I think a safe starting point would be to work with (b) -- I'd expect at least one third party faction, and most hosts seem to favor ratios closer to 3:1 than to 4:1, for better or for worse. So on that basis:

5 mafia, 17 non-mafia

In a world with normal killing pace and a non-hostile independent, that'd set up 5 mischops allowable before MiCho/ChoLo. That would demand a POE pool of 10 (5 mafia + 5 mischops). I'm going to reduce that to 9 immediately in anticipation of at least some non-standard night phase killing power.

So my efforts are to get to a comfortable POE pool of 9, or at least as close as I can. That will be an ambitious undertaking, because it requires removing 12 not-JJJs from the mafia pool. I probably won't be able to manage that confidently, but the effort should still be a net positive if it can be reasonably attempted.

Who's in your group of 9?

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:00 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:59 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:56 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:43 pm it was bad, now it's not good. that's colloquially progressive

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:44 pm it's not like it got worse
I don't think any of this makes sense
@tutuu translate

@falcon45ca tsp is saying that before it was really bad and now its less bad

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:02 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:58 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:05 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine
What moved you?

i no longer felt comfortable with my vote on fingersplints, and the concerns that i had about marmot yesterday have not been alleviated in the slightest by his posting today.. i got the impression that he may have been trying to play up the dichotomy of tutuu/myself

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:02 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:59 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:56 pm 9 players is the POE target I have aimed for based upon game theory.

I don't think a smaller space is necessary.
poe is such a multi-use word

it can be used for "list of suspects"

it can also be used for "process of elimination"

list of suspects and process of elimination are two things that are not the same

at least i use poe synonymously with list of suspects more often than process of elimination (i was just saying how i find the word, i wasnt trying to correct u or anything @JaggedJimmyJay )

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:02 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:59 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:56 pm 9 players is the POE target I have aimed for based upon game theory.

I don't think a smaller space is necessary.
poe is such a multi-use word

it can be used for "list of suspects"

it can also be used for "process of elimination"

list of suspects and process of elimination are two things that are not the same

Well if your PoE doesn't contain a fair chunk of your suspects, then I don't think you're doing it right

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:04 pm**

@staypositivefriend

what do you think about the way your earlier voters moved off you

honestly there's way too much random posting rn that's so tangential I can't actually work through it atm and my current opinion is just lynch into them so I'm starting with tsp like mac suggested

plus he's been scummy

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:05 pm**

literally none of tutuus reads feel real to me and they're both static but extremely volatile, idk how but I don't like that either

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:06 pm**

22 players or whatever is just too fkn many

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:06 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:05 pm literally none of tutuus reads feel real to me and they're both static but extremely volatile, idk how but I don't like that either

I'm beginning to feel the same way. Also of thought/explanations isn't very comforting.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:06 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:05 pm literally none of tutuus reads feel real to me and they're both static but extremely volatile, idk how but I don't like that either

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:06 pm**

I'm gonna hard town read spf, jjj, mac and filter three game through them

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:07 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:06 pm I'm gonna hard town read spf, jjj, mac and filter three game through them

What do you mean by filter three game through them?

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:07 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:06 pm 22 players or whatever is just too fkn many

You're right.

Let's lynch them one at a time til Town wins.

Who are your 3 top scum leans and who are your 3 top town leans?

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:08 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:00 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:59 pm This is why I am working with a POE pool of 9 players:

Spoiler: show
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:14 pm I'd like to determine an ideal POE pool target size. 22 players presents some awkward alignment ratios, so it's difficult to project. For now I am ignoring talk of multiple mafia teams and operating under the assumption there is only one. If so, I see three arrangements that could be reasonably plausible:

a) 16:4:1:1
b) 16:5:1
c) 17:5

The correct answer, if it's any of those, is dependent upon role strength. I have no idea. I think a safe starting point would be to work with (b) -- I'd expect at least one third party faction, and most hosts seem to favor ratios closer to 3:1 than to 4:1, for better or for worse. So on that basis:

5 mafia, 17 non-mafia

In a world with normal killing pace and a non-hostile independent, that'd set up 5 mischops allowable before MiCho/ChoLo. That would demand a POE pool of 10 (5 mafia + 5 mischops). I'm going to reduce that to 9 immediately in anticipation of at least some non-standard night phase killing power.

So my efforts are to get to a comfortable POE pool of 9, or at least as close as I can. That will be an ambitious undertaking, because it requires removing 12 not-JJJs from the mafia pool. I probably won't be able to manage that confidently, but the effort should still be a net positive if it can be reasonably attempted.

Who's in your group of 9?

I just asked myself "which 9 do I feel least comfortable calling town?" and ended up with 10:

AL_sama
BoKnows
Dom
JPIC
KZA
Long Con
Marmot
Michelle
tedxtr
Tony

This reflects most previous lists. Michelle returns after being out briefly just for lack of content. I am presently working through my mental conception of the game to determine if/where any swaps are necessary. Next one in is probably SPF.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:08 pm**

BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:07 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:06 pm I'm gonna hard town read spf, jjj, mac and filter three game through them
What do you mean by filter three game through them?

the

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:08 pm**

BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:07 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:06 pm I'm gonna hard town read spf, jjj, mac and filter three game through them
What do you mean by filter three game through them?

the, not three

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:08 pm**

BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:06 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:05 pm literally none of tutuus reads feel real to me and they're both static but extremely volatile, idk how but I don't like that either
I'm beginning to feel the same way. Also of thought/explanations isn't very comforting.

Uh oh, you're gonna make her sad face I bet

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:08 pm**

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