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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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KZA wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:29 pm I want to flip Odd so I can lazily clear LC when he's a wolf
How did you get to 86 posts?
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BoKnows wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:31 pm
KZA wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:29 pm I want to flip Odd so I can lazily clear LC when he's a wolf
How did you get to 86 posts?
I gave up on the game because I wasn't having fun so now I'm in my broken meta where I don't think about anything I post
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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KZA wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:33 pm
BoKnows wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:31 pm
KZA wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:29 pm I want to flip Odd so I can lazily clear LC when he's a wolf
How did you get to 86 posts?
I gave up on the game because I wasn't having fun so now I'm in my broken meta where I don't think about anything I post
Have fun KZA!!!!
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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KZA wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:33 pm
BoKnows wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:31 pm
KZA wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:29 pm I want to flip Odd so I can lazily clear LC when he's a wolf
How did you get to 86 posts?
I gave up on the game because I wasn't having fun so now I'm in my broken meta where I don't think about anything I post
u call it broken i call it powering up to super saiyan 2
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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How is the game progresing?
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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tutuu wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:34 pm
KZA wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:33 pm
BoKnows wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:31 pm
KZA wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:29 pm I want to flip Odd so I can lazily clear LC when he's a wolf
How did you get to 86 posts?
I gave up on the game because I wasn't having fun so now I'm in my broken meta where I don't think about anything I post
u call it broken i call it powering up to super saiyan 2
you're going to love this, trust me. what you're seeing now is my normal state. this is a super saiyan. and this. this is what is known as a super saiyan that has ascended above a super saiyan. or, you could just call this a super saiyan two.
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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KZA wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:35 pm
tutuu wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:34 pm
KZA wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:33 pm
BoKnows wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:31 pm
KZA wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:29 pm I want to flip Odd so I can lazily clear LC when he's a wolf
How did you get to 86 posts?
I gave up on the game because I wasn't having fun so now I'm in my broken meta where I don't think about anything I post
u call it broken i call it powering up to super saiyan 2
you're going to love this, trust me. what you're seeing now is my normal state. this is a super saiyan. and this. this is what is known as a super saiyan that has ascended above a super saiyan. or, you could just call this a super saiyan two.
LMAO
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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BoKnows wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:35 pm How is the game progresing?
i think its much better than how it used to be
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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tutuu wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:36 pm
BoKnows wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:35 pm How is the game progresing?
i think its much better than how it used to be
Game is powering up to Super Saiyan 2.
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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tutuu wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:28 pm i just checked post count jjj is 1st in 2nd bo is 3rd. i need to townclear bo based off volume

so we got some problems guys our poe was rly bad and its still not good i think
tutuu wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:36 pm
BoKnows wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:35 pm How is the game progresing?
i think its much better than how it used to be
Huh. Broken PoE that's still bad, but the game is progressing better.


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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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it was bad, now it's not good. that's colloquially progressive
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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it's not like it got worse
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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on a second stab, if a poe of nine names has 2-3 town that doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad poe
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:44 pm on a second stab, if a poe of nine names has 2-3 town that doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad poe
what are you talking about
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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tutuu wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:28 pm i just checked post count jjj is 1st in 2nd bo is 3rd. i need to townclear bo based off volume

so we got some problems guys our poe was rly bad and its still not good i think
i feel like i just need a tsp translator
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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tutuu wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:36 pm
BoKnows wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:35 pm How is the game progresing?
i think its much better than how it used to be
Long Con wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:38 pm
tutuu wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:36 pm
BoKnows wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:35 pm How is the game progresing?
i think its much better than how it used to be
Game is powering up to Super Saiyan 2.
Kicking up this game into high gear!
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:49 pm
tutuu wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:28 pm i just checked post count jjj is 1st in 2nd bo is 3rd. i need to townclear bo based off volume

so we got some problems guys our poe was rly bad and its still not good i think
i feel like i just need a tsp translator
Please... A lot of your posts don't make sense to me
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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i understand all tsp's posts i am his official translator
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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KZA wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:48 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:44 pm on a second stab, if a poe of nine names has 2-3 town that doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad poe
what are you talking about
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:49 pm
tutuu wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:28 pm i just checked post count jjj is 1st in 2nd bo is 3rd. i need to townclear bo based off volume

so we got some problems guys our poe was rly bad and its still not good i think
i feel like i just need a tsp translator
he is elaborating more on his reaction to my statement that our poe was bad (since even after he made this post i know it wasnt very clear)

i think our poe was of 5 ppl though not 9. i personally had a poe of 3 and im townreading 2 of those 3
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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tutuu wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:52 pm
KZA wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:48 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:44 pm on a second stab, if a poe of nine names has 2-3 town that doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad poe
what are you talking about
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:49 pm
tutuu wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:28 pm i just checked post count jjj is 1st in 2nd bo is 3rd. i need to townclear bo based off volume

so we got some problems guys our poe was rly bad and its still not good i think
i feel like i just need a tsp translator
he is elaborating more on his reaction to my statement that our poe was bad (since even after he made this post i know it wasnt very clear)

i think our poe was of 5 ppl though not 9. i personally had a poe of 3 and im townreading 2 of those 3
What's your case for Sloonei?
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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9 players is the POE target I have aimed for based upon game theory.

I don't think a smaller space is necessary.
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:43 pm it was bad, now it's not good. that's colloquially progressive
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:44 pm it's not like it got worse
I don't think any of this makes sense
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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BoKnows wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:54 pm
tutuu wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:52 pm
KZA wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:48 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:44 pm on a second stab, if a poe of nine names has 2-3 town that doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad poe
what are you talking about
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:49 pm
tutuu wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:28 pm i just checked post count jjj is 1st in 2nd bo is 3rd. i need to townclear bo based off volume

so we got some problems guys our poe was rly bad and its still not good i think
i feel like i just need a tsp translator
he is elaborating more on his reaction to my statement that our poe was bad (since even after he made this post i know it wasnt very clear)

i think our poe was of 5 ppl though not 9. i personally had a poe of 3 and im townreading 2 of those 3
What's your case for Sloonei?
nada; i just have a lot of town cases
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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tutuu wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:56 pm
BoKnows wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:54 pm
tutuu wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:52 pm
KZA wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:48 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:44 pm on a second stab, if a poe of nine names has 2-3 town that doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad poe
what are you talking about
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:49 pm
tutuu wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:28 pm i just checked post count jjj is 1st in 2nd bo is 3rd. i need to townclear bo based off volume

so we got some problems guys our poe was rly bad and its still not good i think
i feel like i just need a tsp translator
he is elaborating more on his reaction to my statement that our poe was bad (since even after he made this post i know it wasnt very clear)

i think our poe was of 5 ppl though not 9. i personally had a poe of 3 and im townreading 2 of those 3
What's your case for Sloonei?
nada; i just have a lot of town cases
Okay so you're just voting for him for no reason?
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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falcon45ca wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:56 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:43 pm it was bad, now it's not good. that's colloquially progressive
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:44 pm it's not like it got worse
I don't think any of this makes sense
That's the point... with a dash of smarmy TSP hu our!
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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BoKnows wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:57 pm
tutuu wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:56 pm
BoKnows wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:54 pm
tutuu wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:52 pm
KZA wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:48 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:44 pm on a second stab, if a poe of nine names has 2-3 town that doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad poe
what are you talking about
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:49 pm
tutuu wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:28 pm i just checked post count jjj is 1st in 2nd bo is 3rd. i need to townclear bo based off volume

so we got some problems guys our poe was rly bad and its still not good i think
i feel like i just need a tsp translator
he is elaborating more on his reaction to my statement that our poe was bad (since even after he made this post i know it wasnt very clear)

i think our poe was of 5 ppl though not 9. i personally had a poe of 3 and im townreading 2 of those 3
What's your case for Sloonei?
nada; i just have a lot of town cases
Okay so you're just voting for him for no reason?
well no and also yes
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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staypositivefriend wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:05 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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tutuu wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:58 pm
BoKnows wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:57 pm
tutuu wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:56 pm
BoKnows wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:54 pm
tutuu wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:52 pm
KZA wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:48 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:44 pm on a second stab, if a poe of nine names has 2-3 town that doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad poe
what are you talking about
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:49 pm
tutuu wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:28 pm i just checked post count jjj is 1st in 2nd bo is 3rd. i need to townclear bo based off volume

so we got some problems guys our poe was rly bad and its still not good i think
i feel like i just need a tsp translator
he is elaborating more on his reaction to my statement that our poe was bad (since even after he made this post i know it wasnt very clear)

i think our poe was of 5 ppl though not 9. i personally had a poe of 3 and im townreading 2 of those 3
What's your case for Sloonei?
nada; i just have a lot of town cases
Okay so you're just voting for him for no reason?
well no and also yes
Is sloonei just down in your PoE because you have town read a bunch of people already and Sloonei isn't one of them?
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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This is why I am working with a POE pool of 9 players:

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:14 pm I'd like to determine an ideal POE pool target size. 22 players presents some awkward alignment ratios, so it's difficult to project. For now I am ignoring talk of multiple mafia teams and operating under the assumption there is only one. If so, I see three arrangements that could be reasonably plausible:

a) 16:4:1:1
b) 16:5:1
c) 17:5

The correct answer, if it's any of those, is dependent upon role strength. I have no idea. I think a safe starting point would be to work with (b) -- I'd expect at least one third party faction, and most hosts seem to favor ratios closer to 3:1 than to 4:1, for better or for worse. So on that basis:

5 mafia, 17 non-mafia

In a world with normal killing pace and a non-hostile independent, that'd set up 5 mischops allowable before MiCho/ChoLo. That would demand a POE pool of 10 (5 mafia + 5 mischops). I'm going to reduce that to 9 immediately in anticipation of at least some non-standard night phase killing power.

So my efforts are to get to a comfortable POE pool of 9, or at least as close as I can. That will be an ambitious undertaking, because it requires removing 12 not-JJJs from the mafia pool. I probably won't be able to manage that confidently, but the effort should still be a net positive if it can be reasonably attempted.
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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falcon45ca wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:56 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:43 pm it was bad, now it's not good. that's colloquially progressive
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:44 pm it's not like it got worse
I don't think any of this makes sense
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:56 pm 9 players is the POE target I have aimed for based upon game theory.

I don't think a smaller space is necessary.
poe is such a multi-use word

it can be used for "list of suspects"

it can also be used for "process of elimination"

list of suspects and process of elimination are two things that are not the same
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:59 pm This is why I am working with a POE pool of 9 players:

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:14 pm I'd like to determine an ideal POE pool target size. 22 players presents some awkward alignment ratios, so it's difficult to project. For now I am ignoring talk of multiple mafia teams and operating under the assumption there is only one. If so, I see three arrangements that could be reasonably plausible:

a) 16:4:1:1
b) 16:5:1
c) 17:5

The correct answer, if it's any of those, is dependent upon role strength. I have no idea. I think a safe starting point would be to work with (b) -- I'd expect at least one third party faction, and most hosts seem to favor ratios closer to 3:1 than to 4:1, for better or for worse. So on that basis:

5 mafia, 17 non-mafia

In a world with normal killing pace and a non-hostile independent, that'd set up 5 mischops allowable before MiCho/ChoLo. That would demand a POE pool of 10 (5 mafia + 5 mischops). I'm going to reduce that to 9 immediately in anticipation of at least some non-standard night phase killing power.

So my efforts are to get to a comfortable POE pool of 9, or at least as close as I can. That will be an ambitious undertaking, because it requires removing 12 not-JJJs from the mafia pool. I probably won't be able to manage that confidently, but the effort should still be a net positive if it can be reasonably attempted.
Who's in your group of 9?
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:59 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:56 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:43 pm it was bad, now it's not good. that's colloquially progressive
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:44 pm it's not like it got worse
I don't think any of this makes sense
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@falcon45ca tsp is saying that before it was really bad and now its less bad
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:58 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:05 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine
What moved you?
i no longer felt comfortable with my vote on fingersplints, and the concerns that i had about marmot yesterday have not been alleviated in the slightest by his posting today.. i got the impression that he may have been trying to play up the dichotomy of tutuu/myself
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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tutuu wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:59 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:56 pm 9 players is the POE target I have aimed for based upon game theory.

I don't think a smaller space is necessary.
poe is such a multi-use word

it can be used for "list of suspects"

it can also be used for "process of elimination"

list of suspects and process of elimination are two things that are not the same
at least i use poe synonymously with list of suspects more often than process of elimination (i was just saying how i find the word, i wasnt trying to correct u or anything @JaggedJimmyJay )
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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tutuu wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:59 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:56 pm 9 players is the POE target I have aimed for based upon game theory.

I don't think a smaller space is necessary.
poe is such a multi-use word

it can be used for "list of suspects"

it can also be used for "process of elimination"

list of suspects and process of elimination are two things that are not the same
Well if your PoE doesn't contain a fair chunk of your suspects, then I don't think you're doing it right
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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@staypositivefriend

what do you think about the way your earlier voters moved off you

honestly there's way too much random posting rn that's so tangential I can't actually work through it atm and my current opinion is just lynch into them so I'm starting with tsp like mac suggested

plus he's been scummy
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literally none of tutuus reads feel real to me and they're both static but extremely volatile, idk how but I don't like that either
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I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night. :doh:
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22 players or whatever is just too fkn many
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I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night. :doh:
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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Esooa wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:05 pm literally none of tutuus reads feel real to me and they're both static but extremely volatile, idk how but I don't like that either
I'm beginning to feel the same way. Also of thought/explanations isn't very comforting.
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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Esooa wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:05 pm literally none of tutuus reads feel real to me and they're both static but extremely volatile, idk how but I don't like that either
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I'm gonna hard town read spf, jjj, mac and filter three game through them
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I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night. :doh:
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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Esooa wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:06 pm I'm gonna hard town read spf, jjj, mac and filter three game through them
What do you mean by filter three game through them?
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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Esooa wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:06 pm 22 players or whatever is just too fkn many
You're right.


Let's lynch them one at a time til Town wins.


Who are your 3 top scum leans and who are your 3 top town leans?
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falcon45ca wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:00 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:59 pm This is why I am working with a POE pool of 9 players:

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:14 pm I'd like to determine an ideal POE pool target size. 22 players presents some awkward alignment ratios, so it's difficult to project. For now I am ignoring talk of multiple mafia teams and operating under the assumption there is only one. If so, I see three arrangements that could be reasonably plausible:

a) 16:4:1:1
b) 16:5:1
c) 17:5

The correct answer, if it's any of those, is dependent upon role strength. I have no idea. I think a safe starting point would be to work with (b) -- I'd expect at least one third party faction, and most hosts seem to favor ratios closer to 3:1 than to 4:1, for better or for worse. So on that basis:

5 mafia, 17 non-mafia

In a world with normal killing pace and a non-hostile independent, that'd set up 5 mischops allowable before MiCho/ChoLo. That would demand a POE pool of 10 (5 mafia + 5 mischops). I'm going to reduce that to 9 immediately in anticipation of at least some non-standard night phase killing power.

So my efforts are to get to a comfortable POE pool of 9, or at least as close as I can. That will be an ambitious undertaking, because it requires removing 12 not-JJJs from the mafia pool. I probably won't be able to manage that confidently, but the effort should still be a net positive if it can be reasonably attempted.
Who's in your group of 9?
I just asked myself "which 9 do I feel least comfortable calling town?" and ended up with 10:

AL_sama
BoKnows
Dom
JPIC
KZA
Long Con
Marmot
Michelle
tedxtr
Tony

This reflects most previous lists. Michelle returns after being out briefly just for lack of content. I am presently working through my mental conception of the game to determine if/where any swaps are necessary. Next one in is probably SPF.
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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BoKnows wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:07 pm
Esooa wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:06 pm I'm gonna hard town read spf, jjj, mac and filter three game through them
What do you mean by filter three game through them?
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BoKnows wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:07 pm
Esooa wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:06 pm I'm gonna hard town read spf, jjj, mac and filter three game through them
What do you mean by filter three game through them?
the, not three
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I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night. :doh:
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

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BoKnows wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:06 pm
Esooa wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:05 pm literally none of tutuus reads feel real to me and they're both static but extremely volatile, idk how but I don't like that either
I'm beginning to feel the same way. Also of thought/explanations isn't very comforting.
Uh oh, you're gonna make her sad face I bet
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brb
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I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night. :doh:
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