The Syndicate

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:53 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:51 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:41 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:40 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:37 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:35 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:34 pm

I don't form reads quickly at all, i can't give you such a list this quickly

What do you think about my anti Dizzy thoughts and pro Seanzie thoughts in isolation?

seanzie wouldn't be a inactive wolf, dizzy will turn up and if not then the catapult, I'm fine with pressuring her though because if town she'll clarify

What makes you draw this conclusion?

he just doesn't seem like the type

@Lucy he is an inactive wolf.

Look at this game:

viewtopic.php?t=2333

He had almost as many posts day 1 as he did in that entire game ;o

But look at the posts itself. He's phoning it in

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:54 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:53 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:51 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:41 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:40 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:37 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:35 pm

What do you think about my anti Dizzy thoughts and pro Seanzie thoughts in isolation?

seanzie wouldn't be a inactive wolf, dizzy will turn up and if not then the catapult, I'm fine with pressuring her though because if town she'll clarify

What makes you draw this conclusion?

he just doesn't seem like the type

@Lucy he is an inactive wolf.

Look at this game:

viewtopic.php?t=2333

He had almost as many posts day 1 as he did in that entire game ;o

But look at the posts itself. He's phoning it in

Day 1 this game didn't feel phoned in. Note my quoting of a few posts earlier this page where I thought he was engaged.

Like if Seanzie is really low energy all of today fair enough, but I think it's early to say their lack of appearance day 2 is suspect.

I guess I can do Seanzie.
Nook looking okay lately.

Seanzie, Dizzy?
Maybe that's why Dizzy is low efforting and came into the game with a sigh? Low activity partners?

Feels like a good thread sentiment to follow here.

I will say I see no similarity between the wolf game sabi linked with seanzie's day 1.

This doesn't feel like a hit tbh

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:02 pm I will say I see no similarity between the wolf game sabi linked with seanzie's day 1.

This doesn't feel like a hit tbh

What makes you feel that way?

Vivax wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:03 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:02 pm I will say I see no similarity between the wolf game sabi linked with seanzie's day 1.

This doesn't feel like a hit tbh

What makes you feel that way?

Well I made a post talking about Seanzie's engagement feeling good earlier last page, so that's a start.

But there is a long stretch of posts in this game where Seanzie is like 'eh' a lot. Very mitigating, unsure language as scum here. He had 80 posts over three days vs 60 in one day, so a volume tell is very untrue at this point, and the nature of their posts in this scum game are almost all half hearted with no real fire.

Lots of questioning in that game, not a lot of assertions. He had nothing like the nuanced read he gave for suspecting me and his handling of Mac is very different.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:40 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:36 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:34 am [VOTE: Fingersplints] aubergine

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

See now I have an issue cuz like you've been right about me being mafia so many times and here you're sussing me when I'm town so like... what do I do with that? I think I wanna maybe town read you for it because I feel like if you were mafia you would want to project your correct godread and pocket me rather than tilt me and encourage me to omgus. So yeah I'm gonna town read you for this garbage. Happy days for you.

Have you not figured out that I just scumread you every game regardless of what is going on, and just by the luck of the rand we've only ended up t/t for 1 day of 1 game through all of the games we've played together?

Anyways, I am less confident on you, Fingers is super wolfy on how she was approaching Porscha re:Falcon. I think Fingers REALLY wants a falcon elim, and reading Finger's ISO your name pops up in many awkward ways.

I can smell the fear from scum Seanzie here. It's dripping off of every word. Mac looks his way and he goes "haha, don't you know, I always do this!"

Very, very different than how he handles Mac here.

Also Seanzie had almost as many posts day 1... and the day was cut almost in half by ending early.

Okay I can get behind that. Back to Dyslexicon as any sane townie should from wagonomics.
And I take it back about Nook, can still be mafia, can still be not.

Going Dyslexicon here is rational, simple reasoning unless you can argue why both Wilgie and Seanzie wagons are mafia.
But I'd also keep in mind that Rondo and Axe are voting off wagons and that's pro-scum, so could be another possible pair.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:23 am Why is Sean's wolf meta?

Why indeed.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:28 pm Basically in regards to Seanzie and Wilgy if they come in super flat, dispirited, and don't contribute it's obviously fair to throw them off a bridge. However, considering about half of you came in various levels of not sober last night I don't really believe in viewing "people aren't here" as naturally suspicious given that it is very easy to wait until the final 4-6 hours of a day, go "guess that answers that" and pile onto them.

But Seanzie's day 1 was fine from my view.

Aww, but flat and not contributing is what I got right now.

I'm like 15 pages behind and a chance of catchup is pretty low, so I'm probably going to just vibe in the thread.

I think my response to your wall achro will likely amount to "ok. Sure."

Not really sure why Achromatic is hard defending me here, but since I do have a few votes on me, I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth.

Their thoughts on me seem pretty nuanced and reasonable, and if they're actually doing the work to look up old games on me to defend me, even after I was suspecting them for them calling me obvtown yesterday, I'mma go ahead and say they're probably fine.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:54 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:53 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:51 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:41 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:40 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:37 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:35 pm

What do you think about my anti Dizzy thoughts and pro Seanzie thoughts in isolation?

seanzie wouldn't be a inactive wolf, dizzy will turn up and if not then the catapult, I'm fine with pressuring her though because if town she'll clarify

What makes you draw this conclusion?

he just doesn't seem like the type

@Lucy he is an inactive wolf.

Look at this game:

viewtopic.php?t=2333

He had almost as many posts day 1 as he did in that entire game ;o

But look at the posts itself. He's phoning it in

Which posts am I phoning in, exactly?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:34 pm Not really sure why Achromatic is hard defending me here, but since I do have a few votes on me, I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth.

Looool

Okay this is mafia.

Vivax wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:40 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:34 pm Not really sure why Achromatic is hard defending me here, but since I do have a few votes on me, I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth.

Looool

Okay this is mafia.

Oh this is someone who just got into the thread, isn't caught up, and sees someone towncasing them pretty darn hard. One of the two.

Seanzie is it that hard to read my posts and see the thoughts I have given on you. My progression on you is crystal clear.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 11:33 am [VOTE: sean] aubergine

Sabi's confidence has swayed me

I'd like to hear your thoughts though. Why me?

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:42 pm Seanzie is it that hard to read my posts and see the thoughts I have given on you. My progression on you is crystal clear.

I mean, did you see my follow up after I actually thought about how your actions fit into the current threadstate?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:44 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 11:33 am [VOTE: sean] aubergine

Sabi's confidence has swayed me

I'd like to hear your thoughts though. Why me?

Did you read the part of the post that said sabi swayed me

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:45 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:44 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 11:33 am [VOTE: sean] aubergine

Sabi's confidence has swayed me

I'd like to hear your thoughts though. Why me?

Did you read the part of the post that said sabi swayed me

Do you remember that I'm not the type of person that lets you get away with not actually giving your own thoughts on things?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:45 pm [VOTE: porscha] aubergine

Weaksauce

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:46 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:45 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:44 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 11:33 am [VOTE: sean] aubergine

Sabi's confidence has swayed me

I'd like to hear your thoughts though. Why me?

Did you read the part of the post that said sabi swayed me

Do you remember that I'm not the type of person that lets you get away with not actually giving your own thoughts on things?

Ok boomer

I see vivax voted me without calling it in the thread.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:47 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:46 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:45 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:44 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 11:33 am [VOTE: sean] aubergine

Sabi's confidence has swayed me

I'd like to hear your thoughts though. Why me?

Did you read the part of the post that said sabi swayed me

Do you remember that I'm not the type of person that lets you get away with not actually giving your own thoughts on things?

Ok boomer

Now that I'm actually here, how do you read me?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:41 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:40 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:34 pm Not really sure why Achromatic is hard defending me here, but since I do have a few votes on me, I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth.

Looool

Okay this is mafia.

Oh this is someone who just got into the thread, isn't caught up, and sees someone towncasing them pretty darn hard. One of the two.

Yeah as town I'm always particularly most conscious about the ones towncasing me.Not.
Reacting to Achro defense as snap reaction implies you care too much about not looking like scum. Been there, done that.
And probably spews Achro town, not that it was needed.

Cueueing the Nanook vote Change from Sean to Porscha.

hi @Sabiplz

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:48 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:47 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:46 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:45 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:44 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 11:33 am [VOTE: sean] aubergine

Sabi's confidence has swayed me

I'd like to hear your thoughts though. Why me?

Did you read the part of the post that said sabi swayed me

Do you remember that I'm not the type of person that lets you get away with not actually giving your own thoughts on things?

Ok boomer

Now that I'm actually here, how do you read me?

I moved my vote

I'm here reading. Not home right now but I see Sean is here and I will Unvote for now.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:36 pm Their thoughts on me seem pretty nuanced and reasonable, and if they're actually doing the work to look up old games on me to defend me, even after I was suspecting them for them calling me obvtown yesterday, I'mma go ahead and say they're probably fine.

Ah there we go.

Also nanook going for porscha is an f

Current team poe is dizzy/axe/wilgy. Waiting on nanook to power up tomorrow for now.

Vivax wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:48 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:41 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:40 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:34 pm Not really sure why Achromatic is hard defending me here, but since I do have a few votes on me, I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth.

Looool

Okay this is mafia.

Oh this is someone who just got into the thread, isn't caught up, and sees someone towncasing them pretty darn hard. One of the two.

Yeah as town I'm always particularly most conscious about the ones towncasing me.Not.
Reacting to Achro defense as snap reaction implies you care too much about not looking like scum. Been there, done that.
And probably spews Achro town, not that it was needed.

Cueueing the Nanook vote Change from Sean to Porscha.

This is a deeply silly read, some people are more self aware/self conscious than others

Will engaged in a couple of hours and let Sean breathe

Vivax wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:48 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:41 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:40 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:34 pm Not really sure why Achromatic is hard defending me here, but since I do have a few votes on me, I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth.

Looool

Okay this is mafia.

Oh this is someone who just got into the thread, isn't caught up, and sees someone towncasing them pretty darn hard. One of the two.

Yeah as town I'm always particularly most conscious about the ones towncasing me.Not.
Reacting to Achro defense as snap reaction implies you care too much about not looking like scum. Been there, done that.
And probably spews Achro town, not that it was needed.

Cueueing the Nanook vote Change from Sean to Porscha.

I'm happy for you that you don't suspect people whose motivations for defending you are unclear. I do, and vehemently try to avoid being buddied or WK'd.

Are you going to judge me based on how you play, or are you going to try to figure out what actually makes me tick and see if you can find my alignment from there?

Vivax wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:48 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:41 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:40 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:34 pm Not really sure why Achromatic is hard defending me here, but since I do have a few votes on me, I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth.

Looool

Okay this is mafia.

Oh this is someone who just got into the thread, isn't caught up, and sees someone towncasing them pretty darn hard. One of the two.

Yeah as town I'm always particularly most conscious about the ones towncasing me.Not.
Reacting to Achro defense as snap reaction implies you care too much about not looking like scum. Been there, done that.
And probably spews Achro town, not that it was needed.

Cueueing the Nanook vote Change from Sean to Porscha.

This does track based on our interaction yesterday though where he was suspicious I was tmi'ing them town.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:50 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:36 pm Their thoughts on me seem pretty nuanced and reasonable, and if they're actually doing the work to look up old games on me to defend me, even after I was suspecting them for them calling me obvtown yesterday, I'mma go ahead and say they're probably fine.

Ah there we go.

Also nanook going for porscha is an f

Current team poe is dizzy/axe/wilgy. Waiting on nanook to power up tomorrow for now.

Uninteresred in dizzy atm, sean looks townie

Porscha is a fine option, possibly a placeholder

I'm more interested in townreads atp

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:50 pm I'm here reading. Not home right now but I see Sean is here and I will Unvote for now.

Boring! Come at me! If you do, I'll likely be able to sort you.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:51 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:50 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:36 pm Their thoughts on me seem pretty nuanced and reasonable, and if they're actually doing the work to look up old games on me to defend me, even after I was suspecting them for them calling me obvtown yesterday, I'mma go ahead and say they're probably fine.

Ah there we go.

Also nanook going for porscha is an f

Current team poe is dizzy/axe/wilgy. Waiting on nanook to power up tomorrow for now.

Uninteresred in dizzy atm, sean looks townie

Porscha is a fine option, possibly a placeholder

I'm more interested in townreads atp

Town reads are literally everyone i didn't name.

Don't really care if your interested in dizzy or not tbh. Vote on seanzie is an f. Porscha vote is an f. Show me a strong case or bend the knee tbh

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:51 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:50 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:36 pm Their thoughts on me seem pretty nuanced and reasonable, and if they're actually doing the work to look up old games on me to defend me, even after I was suspecting them for them calling me obvtown yesterday, I'mma go ahead and say they're probably fine.

Ah there we go.

Also nanook going for porscha is an f

Current team poe is dizzy/axe/wilgy. Waiting on nanook to power up tomorrow for now.

Uninteresred in dizzy atm, sean looks townie

Porscha is a fine option, possibly a placeholder

I'm more interested in townreads atp

What exactly made you change your mind on me?

Sabi/sean/mac/axe all town

Wilgy still leaning town but its not the godread

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:50 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:48 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:41 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:40 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:34 pm Not really sure why Achromatic is hard defending me here, but since I do have a few votes on me, I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth.

Looool

Okay this is mafia.

Oh this is someone who just got into the thread, isn't caught up, and sees someone towncasing them pretty darn hard. One of the two.

Yeah as town I'm always particularly most conscious about the ones towncasing me.Not.
Reacting to Achro defense as snap reaction implies you care too much about not looking like scum. Been there, done that.
And probably spews Achro town, not that it was needed.

Cueueing the Nanook vote Change from Sean to Porscha.

This is a deeply silly read, some people are more self aware/self conscious than others

Nope. He reacted EXACTLY the same way I did when subbing in as scum in terminator mafia on mafiascum. There you go. https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13433543
First thing I did was jump at someone defending me. It's typical 'Look at me doing something mafia would probably not do'.
That's why it comes to me as an easy read.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:53 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:51 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:50 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:36 pm Their thoughts on me seem pretty nuanced and reasonable, and if they're actually doing the work to look up old games on me to defend me, even after I was suspecting them for them calling me obvtown yesterday, I'mma go ahead and say they're probably fine.

Ah there we go.

Also nanook going for porscha is an f

Current team poe is dizzy/axe/wilgy. Waiting on nanook to power up tomorrow for now.

Uninteresred in dizzy atm, sean looks townie

Porscha is a fine option, possibly a placeholder

I'm more interested in townreads atp

What exactly made you change your mind on me?

Your recent posting

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:52 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:50 pm I'm here reading. Not home right now but I see Sean is here and I will Unvote for now.

Boring! Come at me! If you do, I'll likely be able to sort you.

What I felt about pushing your name was people were all quick to jump on it which kinda gave me doubts. The fact there wasn't a counter to being on the spotlight makes me feel like mafia sitting back.

Besides that, please explain your weird post to Porscha and Tommy

Vivax wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:53 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:50 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:48 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:41 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:40 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:34 pm Not really sure why Achromatic is hard defending me here, but since I do have a few votes on me, I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth.

Looool

Okay this is mafia.

Oh this is someone who just got into the thread, isn't caught up, and sees someone towncasing them pretty darn hard. One of the two.

Yeah as town I'm always particularly most conscious about the ones towncasing me.Not.
Reacting to Achro defense as snap reaction implies you care too much about not looking like scum. Been there, done that.
And probably spews Achro town, not that it was needed.

Cueueing the Nanook vote Change from Sean to Porscha.

This is a deeply silly read, some people are more self aware/self conscious than others

Nope. He reacted EXACTLY the same way I did when subbing in as scum in terminator mafia on mafiascum. There you go. https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13433543
First thing I did was jump at someone defending me. It's typical 'Look at me doing something mafia would probably not do'.
That's why it comes to me as an easy read.

If you did it id be concerned

But, and this may surprise you, Sean is not you

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:53 pm Sabi/sean/mac/axe all town

Wilgy still leaning town but its not the godread

Need to know the two wolves in your world view because we ain't matching atm

If it's not Sean, it's Porscha but Porscha catch up was meh but like idk if I want to go there because what info would we get out of that. I'm just confused because ahhhhh

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:55 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:53 pm Sabi/sean/mac/axe all town

Wilgy still leaning town but its not the godread

Need to know the two wolves in your world view because we ain't matching atm

Do you expect me to actually give a team here? Lol

I have half a town core and this guys asking for the team smh