Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [GAME OVER - TOWN WIN]

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Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [Day 3]

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rondo/ender/porscha/belzy?
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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:18 pm
MacDougall wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:17 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:11 pm
MacDougall wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:09 pm I just... should ... scumread the players here most capable of snowing me?

Neon, Rondo, Nanook?
I've spent no meaningful time trying to fool you specifically lol, this is exactly the sort of game you tr me for
yeah well if you notice I'm currently reaching hard to figure this shit out so I'm looking past my basic reasons to townread literally the entire playerlist
Always level 1 me, you know this :p
ok you're a wolf for openly preventing Alison from using her role
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I see a "let me do this for my role" request and I cock block it, im a simple man
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top 2 town and top 2 mafia?
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MacDougall wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:20 pm top 2 town and top 2 mafia?
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MacDougall wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:20 pm top 2 town and top 2 mafia?
ilario and you

belzy and maybe ender?
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Millium wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:17 pm wolves are all just not playing or barely playing while we are all dying
with a bunch of egos destroying themselves from the inside out, yes
but no one really falls under that except betzy/Nanook/Rondo at this point
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take belzy out soz
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Who are the towniest towns of all time? Think about it man. Nanook, nanook, nanook, nanook, and nanook, because i spit hot fire
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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:20 pm I see a "let me do this for my role" request and I cock block it, im a simple man
i dont ever recall you playing the game that way as town
I've never seen you this obnoxious
half the time u are just obvious and get night killed by wolves
/shrug
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im not confident in my mafia reads after belzy. but probably rondo/ender

I think neon and lily are...idk how to put this. too egocentric to be wolves?
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Millium wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:24 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:20 pm I see a "let me do this for my role" request and I cock block it, im a simple man
i dont ever recall you playing the game that way as town
I've never seen you this obnoxious
half the time u are just obvious and get night killed by wolves
/shrug
Idk I feel like this is not really an uncommon style for me, particularly in high volume high melodrama games
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Millium wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:21 pm
Millium wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:17 pm wolves are all just not playing or barely playing while we are all dying
with a bunch of egos destroying themselves from the inside out, yes
but no one really falls under that except betzy/Nanook/Rondo at this point
your constant attacking this idea of people having too much ego is pretty tiresome... can you come up with some new material to make everyone collectively feel inferior to you?
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dyachei wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:24 pm im not confident in my mafia reads after belzy. but probably rondo/ender

I think neon and lily are...idk how to put this. too egocentric to be wolves?
Did you know Rondo and Ender are irl personal friends with extensive irl mafia experience together?
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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:24 pm
Millium wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:24 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:20 pm I see a "let me do this for my role" request and I cock block it, im a simple man
i dont ever recall you playing the game that way as town
I've never seen you this obnoxious
half the time u are just obvious and get night killed by wolves
/shrug
Idk I feel like this is not really an uncommon style for me, particularly in high volume high melodrama games
well I have no experience with that, but at the same time, I'd expect decent use of your time, when you are around
I dont expect walls, but I dont expect you to meme on the players trying to interact with you
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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:22 pm Who are the towniest towns of all time? Think about it man. Nanook, nanook, nanook, nanook, and nanook, because i spit hot fire
ngl this is the first actual scummy post you've made lol
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MacDougall wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:25 pm
dyachei wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:24 pm im not confident in my mafia reads after belzy. but probably rondo/ender

I think neon and lily are...idk how to put this. too egocentric to be wolves?
Did you know Rondo and Ender are irl personal friends with extensive irl mafia experience together?
no, i did not know that
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Millium wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:26 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:24 pm
Millium wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:24 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:20 pm I see a "let me do this for my role" request and I cock block it, im a simple man
i dont ever recall you playing the game that way as town
I've never seen you this obnoxious
half the time u are just obvious and get night killed by wolves
/shrug
Idk I feel like this is not really an uncommon style for me, particularly in high volume high melodrama games
well I have no experience with that, but at the same time, I'd expect decent use of your time, when you are around
I dont expect walls, but I dont expect you to meme on the players trying to interact with you
The kill is locked today lol
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MacDougall wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:26 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:22 pm Who are the towniest towns of all time? Think about it man. Nanook, nanook, nanook, nanook, and nanook, because i spit hot fire
ngl this is the first actual scummy post you've made lol
You're missing the meme
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MacDougall wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:25 pm
Millium wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:21 pm
Millium wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:17 pm wolves are all just not playing or barely playing while we are all dying
with a bunch of egos destroying themselves from the inside out, yes
but no one really falls under that except betzy/Nanook/Rondo at this point
your constant attacking this idea of people having too much ego is pretty tiresome... can you come up with some new material to make everyone collectively feel inferior to you?
no since this site has been pretty tiresome in both recent experiences I've had here
and I think it was a genuine answer to Illario's question either way
its not like we've never been in games like that before im sure
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That said ive probably made scummier posts tbh, I mean I do regularly call out my own pop in and dips tbf
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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:26 pm
Millium wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:26 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:24 pm
Millium wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:24 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:20 pm I see a "let me do this for my role" request and I cock block it, im a simple man
i dont ever recall you playing the game that way as town
I've never seen you this obnoxious
half the time u are just obvious and get night killed by wolves
/shrug
Idk I feel like this is not really an uncommon style for me, particularly in high volume high melodrama games
well I have no experience with that, but at the same time, I'd expect decent use of your time, when you are around
I dont expect walls, but I dont expect you to meme on the players trying to interact with you
The kill is locked today lol
it wasn't locked every other day lol
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And I gave more reads and interacted with people when they requested it other days 🤷‍♀️
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Millium wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:27 pm
MacDougall wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:25 pm
Millium wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:21 pm
Millium wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:17 pm wolves are all just not playing or barely playing while we are all dying
with a bunch of egos destroying themselves from the inside out, yes
but no one really falls under that except betzy/Nanook/Rondo at this point
your constant attacking this idea of people having too much ego is pretty tiresome... can you come up with some new material to make everyone collectively feel inferior to you?
no since this site has been pretty tiresome in both recent experiences I've had here
and I think it was a genuine answer to Illario's question either way
its not like we've never been in games like that before im sure
you attacking our entire community out if the gate because you got scumread is also poor form
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at this point

Mac
Illario

Nanook
Rondo

that's where I want the wolves to be lmao
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Also d2 was essentially a foregone conclusion for the last half or so of it lol
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MacDougall wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:29 pm
Millium wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:27 pm
MacDougall wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:25 pm
Millium wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:21 pm
Millium wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:17 pm wolves are all just not playing or barely playing while we are all dying
with a bunch of egos destroying themselves from the inside out, yes
but no one really falls under that except betzy/Nanook/Rondo at this point
your constant attacking this idea of people having too much ego is pretty tiresome... can you come up with some new material to make everyone collectively feel inferior to you?
no since this site has been pretty tiresome in both recent experiences I've had here
and I think it was a genuine answer to Illario's question either way
its not like we've never been in games like that before im sure
you attacking our entire community out if the gate because you got scumread is also poor form
you should read Baby Mafia it will be a treat
Im definitely not immune to getting annoyed at scumreads on myself, neither as town nor as a wolf
still think I've been lighter than I have in the past when dealing with it
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Your eyes get clouded. But if you have no such feelings…
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Yeah cause you're mafia lol
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nah I just avoid interacting with certain comments, and players
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Your eyes get clouded. But if you have no such feelings…
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I'm just sick of constantly hearing about how much of an egoist I am because I dare play the game with some confidence.
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also because it's true and I don't like having my insecurities highlighted lol
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ilario wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:37 am
EnderWiggin wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:01 pm
ilario wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 6:56 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 6:55 pm Do my eyes deceive me or is nobody missing from the poll?
i rbd ender last night

hence why i think hes the vote blocker

i lied when i said i was 2 shot so wolves dont worry about me
I did think I was blocked last night because Nanook should be speaking like an animu girl today if I wasn't.
so you mean just like regular nook then

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EnderWiggin wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 8:47 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:11 pm ok I am not catching up on 20+ pages [VOTE: Porscha ] aubergine
I like this post.

But this is not clearing.

I need Rondo opinions.

@RondoDimBuckle

Gimme your god damn current takes.
current take is anyone voting lily has to go as she is in my experience low hanging fruit that just keeps hanging lower as the game goes on.

Other than that, Ilario didnt lie last night. Specifically on the second post he made where people keep saying he has two powers. So he has one power and its a role block afaik
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RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:36 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 8:47 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:11 pm ok I am not catching up on 20+ pages [VOTE: Porscha ] aubergine
I like this post.

But this is not clearing.

I need Rondo opinions.

@RondoDimBuckle

Gimme your god damn current takes.
current take is anyone voting lily has to go as she is in my experience low hanging fruit that just keeps hanging lower as the game goes on.

Other than that, Ilario didnt lie last night. Specifically on the second post he made where people keep saying he has two powers. So he has one power and its a role block afaik
I feel like that's an insult
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EnderWiggin wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 8:47 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:11 pm ok I am not catching up on 20+ pages [VOTE: Porscha ] aubergine
I like this post.

But this is not clearing.

I need Rondo opinions.

@RondoDimBuckle

Gimme your god damn current takes.
That post was just me sheeping Nanook d1 because I had him in a town read. But I dont know if he has posted any actual content yet and his night posting is doing my head in and I keep ping ponging between obviously a town would do that > no that is 3p power activation? > No that is a wolfy thing he hasnt addressed yet > But then why would a wolf do that so its obviously town > Repeat
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Lilypetal wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:37 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:36 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 8:47 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:11 pm ok I am not catching up on 20+ pages [VOTE: Porscha ] aubergine
I like this post.

But this is not clearing.

I need Rondo opinions.

@RondoDimBuckle

Gimme your god damn current takes.
current take is anyone voting lily has to go as she is in my experience low hanging fruit that just keeps hanging lower as the game goes on.

Other than that, Ilario didnt lie last night. Specifically on the second post he made where people keep saying he has two powers. So he has one power and its a role block afaik
I feel like that's an insult
sorry if it is, but you tend to do things that make me scum read you and in KOTH I said you are too scummy to know what is going on. I have to re-read you this game to be sure but basically if people have been pushing you after shooting a wolf then those are the people that I want to yeet
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God damn the wolves in this game have immaculate tone and are posting exactly what is required to snow me. I need other town to figure this out I'm being subverted hard.
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MacDougall wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:41 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:40 pm
Lilypetal wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:34 pm eod felt in the moment and upon rereading that wolves didn't care who died. Someone rly needs to sell me on millium W
I was seconds away from jumping onto Cham because of the self vote messing with Waganomics but I couldnt get the post out before EOD lock
I actually had tried to do the same.
wolfy mind meld /s
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holy shit a lot of my pings are from ilario, man must want his answer bad
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RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:39 pm
Lilypetal wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:37 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:36 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 8:47 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:11 pm ok I am not catching up on 20+ pages [VOTE: Porscha ] aubergine
I like this post.

But this is not clearing.

I need Rondo opinions.

@RondoDimBuckle

Gimme your god damn current takes.
current take is anyone voting lily has to go as she is in my experience low hanging fruit that just keeps hanging lower as the game goes on.

Other than that, Ilario didnt lie last night. Specifically on the second post he made where people keep saying he has two powers. So he has one power and its a role block afaik
I feel like that's an insult
sorry if it is, but you tend to do things that make me scum read you and in KOTH I said you are too scummy to know what is going on. I have to re-read you this game to be sure but basically if people have been pushing you after shooting a wolf then those are the people that I want to yeet
oh it's fine i dont care
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MacDougall wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:40 pm God damn the wolves in this game have immaculate tone and are posting exactly what is required to snow me. I need other town to figure this out I'm being subverted hard.
i think if this is true it is pretty clearly ilario
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RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:42 pm holy shit a lot of my pings are from ilario, man must want his answer bad
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MacDougall wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:40 pm God damn the wolves in this game have immaculate tone and are posting exactly what is required to snow me. I need other town to figure this out I'm being subverted hard.
tbh my motto this game has been "Mac is alive so I dont need to try" I am busy tonight so I cant help but tomorrow (Thur/fri) I will have nothing but time for this game so we can bounce off of/go at each other then
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@RondoDimBuckle I just want you to focus on Ender for now. You should have the best ability to tell whether he is town or not here.
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ilario wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 6:56 pm @RondoDimBuckle i need u to be the rondo i heard about from KOTH today, if i have your support on ender then that will be big for the game
I told you I wouldnt be available till late today, like late late today, You should know that. I give 0 support to Ender specifically because he keeps pinging me by Ending on the same vote as me and I dont know if he is messing with me because I mentioned it yesterday or if he actually believes in a vote independant of me. Also he pushed me for not pushing him but then just kinda.. let me go? which isnt normal. But really its mostly my tinfoil on Ender being a good wolf that is holding me back he hasnt done anything I hate yet so nominally town if I ignore him
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MacDougall wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:45 pm @RondoDimBuckle I just want you to focus on Ender for now. You should have the best ability to tell whether he is town or not here.
Hahaha what a cross over
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ilario wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 6:02 pm It’s lylo

Team is ender neon belzy

Mac is 3p that is wolfsiding via belzy

If we ml another villa they can just force tie tomorrow
I will keep this in mind later > putting in my iso for when I catch up
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Ok I think I am caught up for now. Anything important I should know before I bounce? Anything I missed?
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Millium wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:30 pm at this point

Mac
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Nanook
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that's where I want the wolves to be lmao
Is this calling Mac a wolf?
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