Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [GAME OVER - TOWN WIN]

[RondoDimBuckle]

Dear Rondo haters.

Rondo is being a Rondo.

Last time Rondo was a Rondo the mafia dragged his ass to final 5 and he became Super Rondo 3 and pew pewed them like a sonic boom.

So we don't reeeeally worry about Rondo on day 2.

I am still waiting on Sabi for the banner flare for that one >:\

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Did Neon talk about the mechanical information that led to that post about Alison.

@Neon
Their role changed from can't vote for bonuses to I can't be voted for bonuses. We can't assume you already new it changed because you asked what their role, so I would have expected a response in regards to how that changed ur thoughts. Knowing I haven't caught up yet, is ur mech read on that slot still the same

Yes i talked about it. Yes i knew it changed. Yes i acknowledged the change when it happened.

[santygrass]

There is about an 80% chance that I will be mechanically locked town by D2. It's not deterministic since there's potential stuff that could mess with it (esp in a closed setup) but it exists. So if there's a doctor or similar they should be on me.

Displeased that nook voted Alison still smh

Actually I'm going to drop some respect to Lily and trust her Santy shield.

Lower POE (more scummy): arogame, Millium
Upper POE: EnderWiggin, Porscha, Rondo
I scumread but Mac is shielding and I trust him: Neon
I scumread by Lily is shielding and I trust her: Santygrass
Shrug: dyachei, Nanook
Town: Belzy, SPF, Seanzie, Lilypetal, Chamomile
Confident town: Illario, MacDougall, Tilgarial

This is a bit better cuz they moved a kinda PoE slot to town and trusted a shield on another town player, that goes a bit against the PowerWolf Alison Perspective I was making ik my head while thinking of how W!Alison approached this game

[santygrass]

SPF could you explain your votes on me and then Tilg? Do you genuinely think those are the most likely to flip mafia?

Standing Emoji

[santygrass]

Flipping Porscha is a win win because she has the most entertaining reactions when she is wrongfully killed for no reason so even if she is town we get some value out of it.

OTOH we should vote the guy that is actually mafia if we want to win.

This is a lowkey shield on Porscha fwiw

I expect Porscha to catch at least 2 wolves by D3 if we let her live.

Voters: Millium, arogame123, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, EnderWiggin, ilario

Two lock wolves, a permanent memver of the POE, a top town, and a shrug slot.

Catch me on this wagon never.

Okay I am turning a new leaf

[VOTE: Alison ] aubergine

[Seanzie]

Dear Rondo haters.

Rondo is being a Rondo.

Last time Rondo was a Rondo the mafia dragged his ass to final 5 and he became Super Rondo 3 and pew pewed them like a sonic boom.

So we don't reeeeally worry about Rondo on day 2.

I'm kind of okay ignoring Rondo, but this is a bad reason. What about halvosen ridge?

[ilario]

I also slightly agree with ur tinfoil on Mac, and I would prefer more votes on Rondo

There are no votes on them, and they aren't townie, just not wolfy, and I would be against people voting them. This isn't about them, cry more

Lol. Cry more. What are we 12 year olds.

You seem awfully angry that I gave a town read to someone and backed up after being asked about it.

I mean people town read bad play, it's not all that uncommon. You backed it up with they are vibing, hoe hard is it to note vibe as a wolf, unlike you I don't have the meta, but I also don't think they are a wolf, so I really don't care honestly

I want rondo dead

You seem to really want Rondo dead. How confident are you Rondo's scum and why are you so confident?

Define confident, I just think between their entrance and their constant question asking it just reeks, whether that's the case or not, I don't know, it's just what I'm most confident in right now

can you talk me through if you think theres a difference between rondo constantly asking questions vs tilg doing the same? im mostly trying to figure out why u were more bothered by rondo than u were with tilg at the time

[MacDougall]

Dear Rondo haters.

Rondo is being a Rondo.

Last time Rondo was a Rondo the mafia dragged his ass to final 5 and he became Super Rondo 3 and pew pewed them like a sonic boom.

So we don't reeeeally worry about Rondo on day 2.

I'm kind of okay ignoring Rondo, but this is a bad reason. What about halvosen ridge?

As long as we remember our lessons from both games Rondo can be resolved at the time of the game where he's got no choice but to reveal his true form.

[santygrass]

I just got a clarification for my role, it's not that I get a bonus if I don't vote, I get a bonus if nobody votes for me

jeez

[VOTE: Millium] aubergine

Nobody is allowed to vote me now or town loses a PR

I still kinda townread the derp. But looking at Alison reads and people stating that Alison tends to fakeclaims I am not going to weigh that much fwiw. At least not so much looking at the Tilg confident townread or the lowkey shield on Porscha. Or how they talked to spf with why they voted her / Tilg.
Like, that post explains quite a bit why spf was killed and perfectly makes sense in a world where Alison is worried about the spf godreads tbh

[MacDougall]

@DeeZees in the audience. Watch and learn pal.

[ilario]

santy brings up decent points, well ig they arent his points originally, but him posting them for me to see does help me

[MacDougall]

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?t=2423

@Millium

[EnderWiggin]

If I'm right on Alison wolf tbh this actually kinda clears Santy?

That progression was nice.

Tbh I might clear him anyway, despite having narrowed eyes at some of the recent stuff before that.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[MacDougall]

Town

Belzy
Ender
Ilario
Millium
Nanook
Porscha
Santy
Seanzie
Tilgarial

Wolves

Alison
Cham
Dya
Lily
Neon

Fuck knows

Rondo

Currently feels like the best solve I've had so far.

This is a troll solve right

Me gucci

[ilario]

If I'm right on Alison wolf tbh this actually kinda clears Santy?

That progression was nice.

Tbh I might clear him anyway, despite having narrowed eyes at some of the recent stuff before that.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

yes. i know sometimes i throw out the saying that someone is out of wolf range like candy but i do think santy feels v towny to me.

porcha/tilg/alison does seem like a viable trio

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

lol there we go. I'll do those now Aro. Wasn't Lumi in this game?

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

Skimmed through Porscha ISO and this is fine.

Can you expand on this? I see nothing in your ISO on why Porscha was an okay kill.

I think Wisp is town from the first page of his ISO. He got right into scumhunting and giving thoughts. There's no awkwardness as if he is having to think about what to say. Onto Santy.

And no this fast read on Wisp when I generally am paranoid is not a result of TMI.

Is it a result of TMI now?

Jk. Has it changed though?

no like actually what has porscha done we have to stop MLing porscha lol

if there's even a chance she's town im not touching her

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

@Millium

@Chamomile

@EnderWiggin

@ilario

can you give me a 1-2 sentence reason to why you're voting porscha?

The last time you defended her like this you were scum. You didn't seem to have a problem eliminating her in the Night Before Terror

Weird shade? Feels weird to me. Maybe I'm dumb.

Oh ninja.

Tilg townie. Nuanced thoughts, guiltlessness, and not just doing little prods and commentary. Will ISO Aro now and then probably go back to looking through Santy.

This changes to like 1 of your 3 scum reads by EoD without much more said in between. Why?

@Chamomile Read Lily case on me and stop having Skill Issue tbh

No need you're fine.

Is there any reason why Lily isn't being voted for btw? Seems like she has TMIskies.

Current thoughts on lily and expansion on your thoughts she has TMI?

@Chamomile why aren’t u voting Porscha if u want to save wisp when they’re wagon is much closer to
Wisp is than mine?

All it takes is for wisp to vote their cw to stay alive lol

Oh?

I'll switch if it comes down to it.

I find this reaction weird... what is the thought process here?

@Millium give someone a gift to not vote you and vote Alison unless she unvotes you

Actually vote Alison unless she votes Porscha.

I have hard claimed that I have a powerful townsided PR that is unlocked through me not getting any votes.

Anyone who votes me is essentially outing as scum... so if Millium votes me I'm going to vote him 10x as much and see it as a last ditch effort for scum to try to take away a town PR while going down.

Well you are already voting him at max capacity so nothing changes. Unless you can go even further beyond ultimate super saiyan.

The difference is that I am going to kill you tomorrow as well if you do that. So this is the last chance to back down if you are innocent.

So here's the deal, you switch to Porsha or I park my vote on you for the rest of the day. If you vote for me tomorrow, I park me vote for you the rest of tomorrow too.

I actually really hate this. What's the point in holding someone's claimed role hostage here unless they do what you want?

Allison
Seanzie
Tilgarial
santygrass
SPF
MacDougall

Millium
ilario
Lilypetal

dyachei
arogame123
Porscha

Belzy
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Neon
RondoDimBuckle

EnderWiggen

Within tiers aren't necessarily ordered, but sort of.

Update pls?

Ender + Aro + Tilg

Hmmm. Still think either Ender or Tilg are woofers?

[VOTE: EnderWiggin] aubergine

I hate naked votes. What is your current opinion on Ender Dragons?

If we vote Wisp and tie me with Wisp, Cham will die lol

How come?

[VOTE: Millium] aubergine

This is weird. And also never woof in my eyes.

[MacDougall]

nah this is that part where we get all confident but the mafia was really Rondo ilario ender neon and belzy.

[MacDougall]

If I'm right on Alison wolf tbh this actually kinda clears Santy?

That progression was nice.

Tbh I might clear him anyway, despite having narrowed eyes at some of the recent stuff before that.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

yes. i know sometimes i throw out the saying that someone is out of wolf range like candy but i do think santy feels v towny to me.

porcha/tilg/alison does seem like a viable trio

*cough* dya is an obvious partner in that grouping *cough*

[dyachei]

@ilario

read seanzie for me please

things that have stood out to me today:

Seanzie is normally a very aware player. He reads the thread and comes up with good reads as a result. But today when mac was asking me to assume aro was a revered mafia player and to solve his wagon based on that, seanzie missed the very premise and only focused on his name.

[ilario]

If I'm right on Alison wolf tbh this actually kinda clears Santy?

That progression was nice.

Tbh I might clear him anyway, despite having narrowed eyes at some of the recent stuff before that.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

yes. i know sometimes i throw out the saying that someone is out of wolf range like candy but i do think santy feels v towny to me.

porcha/tilg/alison does seem like a viable trio

*cough* dya is an obvious partner in that grouping *cough*

they do fit in that world so i am dropping my read there i think

[dyachei]

I would normally tr seven for that post but I also think he’s started to pick up on the things I tr him for as was evidenced in the last game he wolfed against me where he hit some notes that I would expect town seven to hit. That being said seven still feels more like a villa than not to me atm. This is pending me reading what dya has to say about seven.

you're not gonna like my answer but it's feels based

[santygrass]

I just got a clarification for my role, it's not that I get a bonus if I don't vote, I get a bonus if nobody votes for me

jeez

[VOTE: Millium] aubergine

Intresting. Well my mech town read is gone now lol

Don't worry if everything goes right you'll have me as mech town by tomorrow anyway.

@Alison are you 3p? Like ffs you should be more salty at nook for their vote. Specially considering that you said your role was clearing, and you are okay with being a wagon?
Like I expect you to say 'get off me stop throwing I can clear myself easily' but you not boosting that or using it as much makes me think it isnt clearing and you were being performative.
So I would like for you to expand on what is your approach to your wagon and what do you think of your role

Wisp has just moved from "top scumread" to "policy exe".

This read didnt hold up.

Ok I did an ISO of dyachei and now I think they should be in the upper POE because I didn't like their approach to Seanzie. Asked me why I was townreading him, I gave a strong meta reason which Illario +1'd, and they didn't seem to take that into account at all... plus their suspicion of him stays even after he demonstrated the behaviors that they were suspecting him for not demonstrating. Such as having strong opinions on who is mafia.

The rest of their posts are shrug. Flat one liners that don't move me much one way or the other. If it wasn't for the Seanzie thing I might well come back and still have a shrug read on them.

If we think Dya/Seanzie is a diff check. I think the wolf is most likely Seanzie in a W!alison world . My thoughts just looking at the ISO tbh.

Personally I would vote Wisp even if he's town because he's a liability.

And if he flips town, how does that change your perspective?

Chamomile moves into my lock towns, and I have a long talk with you. Then I start hunting for who I miscleared on the Wisp wagon.

I think the approach alison was stating near EoD like... Didnt hold up at all today? And makes me lean more into it being fake.
Like, I dont remember alison pressuring much Wisp at all and its just keeping them in sidelines tbh

What reason do you have to suspect Tilg?

Tilg has treated me in an incredibly townie way.

Standing Emoji. The amount of confidence in the Tilg read is lynch worthy.
Because they either
A)Havent played with Tilg before so they shouldn't have this confidence
B)Have played/spectated Tilg before and should know that their reasons for clearing Tilg are bad ones IMO

[dyachei]

it looks like everyone is w reading me today, so please make sure to not let off of seanzie when I flip

[ilario]

@ilario

read seanzie for me please

things that have stood out to me today:

Seanzie is normally a very aware player. He reads the thread and comes up with good reads as a result. But today when mac was asking me to assume aro was a revered mafia player and to solve his wagon based on that, seanzie missed the very premise and only focused on his name.

i defs will, i just wanted to look over some early game stuff first. most ur posts come later on in the game so ill probs get to that in the later half of today

[dyachei]

[VOTE: seanzie] aubergine

[ilario]

I would normally tr seven for that post but I also think he’s started to pick up on the things I tr him for as was evidenced in the last game he wolfed against me where he hit some notes that I would expect town seven to hit. That being said seven still feels more like a villa than not to me atm. This is pending me reading what dya has to say about seven.

you're not gonna like my answer but it's feels based

nah i dont dislike the answer, but im not exactly sure i get it either. can you go into what you mean by it feeling based?

[MacDougall]

it looks like everyone is w reading me today, so please make sure to not let off of seanzie when I flip

I'll do u one better and chop him even if you flip mafia

[dyachei]

mac, i am treating you like I think you're town but i think you're wrong town. Especially since your biggest w read right now is me. im sorry you cant see it. I dont hold it against you

[ilario]

is there a reason why lily has to use the mech on porcha? is there no other slot lily can use it on? i kinda am v curious to see porcha and tilg flip before i proceed onto other slots so its lowkey rough that both are not options today

[dyachei]

i think lily needs to go off a claim or something ilario

[dyachei]

my role kind of sucks, so it's not a great loss if i die

[santygrass]

is there a reason why lily has to use the mech on porcha? is there no other slot lily can use it on? i kinda am v curious to see porcha and tilg flip before i proceed onto other slots so its lowkey rough that both are not options today

Lily said there was a reason yeah. But didnt specify

[ilario]

i think lily needs to go off a claim or something ilario

ahhh ok thanks. so that means porcha claimed something already?

[MacDougall]

mac, i am treating you like I think you're town but i think you're wrong town. Especially since your biggest w read right now is me. im sorry you cant see it. I dont hold it against you

You aren't my biggest wolfread porscha and tilgarial are.

And if I'm wrong on you it doesn't mean I'm wrong on everything. I am pushing the seanzie/dya dichotomy as w/t more than you individually.

It's okay to be wrong. I won't hold your aro burial against you if you flip town either.

[MacDougall]

is there a reason why lily has to use the mech on porcha? is there no other slot lily can use it on? i kinda am v curious to see porcha and tilg flip before i proceed onto other slots so its lowkey rough that both are not options today

it's all there...I went through it with her.

[dyachei]

i think lily needs to go off a claim or something ilario

ahhh ok thanks. so that means porcha claimed something already?

i think she did but I dont remember details

on another note my ideal wagons today would probably be porscha and seanzie. I think porscha's solving today leaves a lot to be desired

[ilario]

@Lilypetal if ur roles related to a claim is there any world where u can use it on alison while we resolve porcha via votes? or can it only be porcha?

[MacDougall]

i think lily needs to go off a claim or something ilario

You check in and catch up before without posting?

[santygrass]

According to you voting out a town Wisp would immediately out half the mafia team when people aren't willing to follow you on them... why are you reluctant about it?

Bruh, I don’t vote my tr to prove a point.

It’s a win/win because either wisp dies due other people voting him and then whoever is town on the wagon will realize or, Porscha dies and likely flips mafia which will change a lot of people’s minds as well lol.

Like a Porscha flip also helps people realize that wisp is likely town based on gamestate thread with voting movemengs

hahahaha no

if porscha flips mafia I am gonna shoot wisp in the night regardless. He is a liability and must be killed

Alison felt SO strongly about Wisp and I feel like Alison didnt tackle or pushed Wisp today and I think that is kinda outing ngl.
In a sense that the perspective Alison puts in the thread doesnt holds up + wolfsiding

[MacDougall]

i think lily needs to go off a claim or something ilario

ahhh ok thanks. so that means porcha claimed something already?

i think she did but I dont remember details

on another note my ideal wagons today would probably be porscha and seanzie. I think porscha's solving today leaves a lot to be desired

I would say calling it solving is giving it too much credit.

[MacDougall]

According to you voting out a town Wisp would immediately out half the mafia team when people aren't willing to follow you on them... why are you reluctant about it?

Bruh, I don’t vote my tr to prove a point.

It’s a win/win because either wisp dies due other people voting him and then whoever is town on the wagon will realize or, Porscha dies and likely flips mafia which will change a lot of people’s minds as well lol.

Like a Porscha flip also helps people realize that wisp is likely town based on gamestate thread with voting movemengs

hahahaha no

if porscha flips mafia I am gonna shoot wisp in the night regardless. He is a liability and must be killed

Alison felt SO strongly about Wisp and I feel like Alison didnt tackle or pushed Wisp today and I think that is kinda outing ngl.
In a sense that the perspective Alison puts in the thread doesnt holds up + wolfsiding

If Alison flips mafia is Santy gonna not hard shield good players anymore?

Haha I kid I kid I know you will.

[dyachei]

i think lily needs to go off a claim or something ilario

You check in and catch up before without posting?

yes but I skimmed since im at work and not sure how much time I have. iread some sort of claim, maybe it was neon and not porscha

[dyachei]

i think lily needs to go off a claim or something ilario

ahhh ok thanks. so that means porcha claimed something already?

i think she did but I dont remember details

on another note my ideal wagons today would probably be porscha and seanzie. I think porscha's solving today leaves a lot to be desired

I would say calling it solving is giving it too much credit.

that's kind of my point

[dyachei]

alison fits in a porscha/seanzie world

[MacDougall]

i think lily needs to go off a claim or something ilario

ahhh ok thanks. so that means porcha claimed something already?

i think she did but I dont remember details

on another note my ideal wagons today would probably be porscha and seanzie. I think porscha's solving today leaves a lot to be desired

@Seanzie get in here and do alignment indicative things.

[santygrass]

@Millium give someone a gift to not vote you and vote Alison unless she unvotes you

Actually vote Alison unless she votes Porscha.

I have hard claimed that I have a powerful townsided PR that is unlocked through me not getting any votes.

Anyone who votes me is essentially outing as scum... so if Millium votes me I'm going to vote him 10x as much and see it as a last ditch effort for scum to try to take away a town PR while going down.

Alison not slapping nanook for their actions, or signal boosting this irt to their wagon today, just makes its far more likely that it was indeed a fake claim.

Nook was right all along and I had the skill issue !?!?
Stop this I want to leave

[MacDougall]

i think lily needs to go off a claim or something ilario

You check in and catch up before without posting?

yes but I skimmed since im at work and not sure how much time I have. iread some sort of claim, maybe it was neon and not porscha

Neon and Lily have both claimed mechanical abilities that may be able to solve slots.

Lily says they can solve Porscha and only Porscha.

Neon says they may be able to resolve you/Seanzie.

Alison can self resolve if ppl don't vote her (so she says).

Tilgarial is outed fmpov.

Gotta say that's a lot of woofs I "shouldn't" vote for lol.

I guess the correct thing to do is kill outside all of these so I guess like Cham?

[santygrass]

@MacDougall I think reading Alison ISO and how they treat the Dya/Seanzie slots heavily leand on Dya being Villa and Seanzie being Wolf tbh. Mostly because of how wolf sidey Alison would be in the scenario of Tilg/Porscha W too

[Millium]

I ended up going with My Hero Academia for some reason. Seems fun.

I still gotta catchup with it, good overall, I suggest attack on titans as well, thr final season is nuts

Yeah I've actually watched s1 of Attack on Titan and it was cool as fuck.

bro watch the rest, it gets better

Ya and season 4 is cracked, whole different ball game

@EnderWiggin
Ur missing out, but maybe I just like darker anime

[dyachei]

i think lily needs to go off a claim or something ilario

You check in and catch up before without posting?

yes but I skimmed since im at work and not sure how much time I have. iread some sort of claim, maybe it was neon and not porscha

Neon and Lily have both claimed mechanical abilities that may be able to solve slots.

Lily says they can solve Porscha and only Porscha.

Neon says they may be able to resolve you/Seanzie.

Alison can self resolve if ppl don't vote her (so she says).

Tilgarial is outed fmpov.

Gotta say that's a lot of woofs I "shouldn't" vote for lol.

I guess the correct thing to do is kill outside all of these so I guess like Cham?

I think alison is just stalling. i'd probably prefer to vote her to cham atp. I think she fits better with seanzie wolf and I really think he's a wolf