Gym Class Mafia D7

[dyachei]

dya, did you express concern about me? Wisdom said you did but I can't find it.

nope

wisdom's really concerning me rn because it seems like she's attributing posts to me that I didn't make

[Shending_Help]

Dya, how much of the game have you read?

[dyachei]

Dya, how much of the game have you read?

I've read all of it but I skimmed parts. And was interrupted by caring for the baby in parts

[Shending_Help]

Then i find it quite concerning you have wisdom as concerning tbh

They should be the most clear person in the game from interactions with Alison/HK almost never being w/w ontop of shooting Alison when there were a lot of shots that would've been more consensus at the time. And Wisdom's general tone/solving/WIM is also one of the highest in the game. But even ignoring that last point, I feel your focus this game has been kind of off

I also have troubles with your post yesterday basically saying "Both HK and Alison I wanna leave alive til later before i try reading them, since they get easier to read over time".

[Marmot]

hollowkatt ( 7 ) Marmot, Spacedaisy, Wisdom, Cape90, DrWilgy, Seanzie, Sabiplz
sabiplz ( 3 ) Shending_Help, NotAnAxehole, hollowkatt
falcon45ca ( 1 ) dyachei
Wisdom ( 1 ) Alison
Not Voting ( 3 ) dunya, falcon45ca, Jackofhearts2005


Here's the vote count from EOD1 again.

I believe what happened was, in the final minute, Spacedaisy vote for hk to make it a tie between hk and sabi at 5-5. Then sean and I moved our votes from sabi to hk to break the tie.


If sabi is town, I think this is a decent look for Spacedaisy since she sheeped a TR's vote. Ties are scum-sided in this setup, but I SD didn't seem to notice she'd made it a tie, and I'm willing to believe that.

[Marmot]

@Wisdom what were you referring to in this statement?

dyachei - I can see this be a wolf really, but that's mostly based on them town reading Alison and not wanting to vote in HK/Sabi and if Sabi is wolfing then this is ugh. If Sabi town, that's a town point for Dya though. @dyachei what's the concern you have on Marmot?

[Marmot]

Scum chat is leaking.

[Jackofhearts2005]

@Alison has died. She flips...MAFIA! Goon.

Day continues, votes for alison will not be counted, and hammer remains at 7.

Spoiler: show

@ Cape90
@ DrWilgy
@ dunya
@ dyachei
@ falcon45ca
@ Jackofhearts2005
@ Marmot
@ sabiplz
@ Seanzie
@ Shending_Help
@ Spacedaisy
@ Wisdom

Lol mafia is easy. wowee

[Marmot]

Then i find it quite concerning you have wisdom as concerning tbh

They should be the most clear person in the game from interactions with Alison/HK almost never being w/w ontop of shooting Alison when there were a lot of shots that would've been more consensus at the time. And Wisdom's general tone/solving/WIM is also one of the highest in the game. But even ignoring that last point, I feel your focus this game has been kind of off

I also have troubles with your post yesterday basically saying "Both HK and Alison I wanna leave alive til later before i try reading them, since they get easier to read over time".

I agree, I think Wisdom is the towniest player at this point, both for pushing hk, and for ITAing Alison. And for looking like she's working towards finding a worldview in this game.

My one qualm is I want to know what she meant when she was talking to dya about me.

[dyachei]

Then i find it quite concerning you have wisdom as concerning tbh

They should be the most clear person in the game from interactions with Alison/HK almost never being w/w ontop of shooting Alison when there were a lot of shots that would've been more consensus at the time. And Wisdom's general tone/solving/WIM is also one of the highest in the game. But even ignoring that last point, I feel your focus this game has been kind of off

I also have troubles with your post yesterday basically saying "Both HK and Alison I wanna leave alive til later before i try reading them, since they get easier to read over time".

you don't think it's weird she's attributing shit to me that I've never said? Like I didnt even have a read on marmot and my read on alison was I do better reading her later

You can't understand why that's concerning fmpov?

[Marmot]

well ok. I feel like this has happened twice now lmao (this and then the Cape thing where u appearently just copied his "tbh lol")

awkward

[Marmot]

I'm heading off on a hike, I won't be back until around when ITAs open again.

glgl


@dunya plz come play

[Jackofhearts2005]

Wisdom: Probably 4 wolves left
Me: There’s no fucking way.
Me: Checks draft order. 8 wolf picks. psyduck.jpg
Me: Absolute inability to fully read a setup

Do appreciate the readlist. Dya sounds super wolfy from that tbh. Marmot also out of place in the readlist but w/e.

[Shending_Help]

Then i find it quite concerning you have wisdom as concerning tbh

They should be the most clear person in the game from interactions with Alison/HK almost never being w/w ontop of shooting Alison when there were a lot of shots that would've been more consensus at the time. And Wisdom's general tone/solving/WIM is also one of the highest in the game. But even ignoring that last point, I feel your focus this game has been kind of off

I also have troubles with your post yesterday basically saying "Both HK and Alison I wanna leave alive til later before i try reading them, since they get easier to read over time".

you don't think it's weird she's attributing shit to me that I've never said? Like I didnt even have a read on marmot and my read on alison was I do better reading her later

You can't understand why that's concerning fmpov?

I think it's concerning that your view doesn't give off a holistic feeling.

Like, if person A has done a ton of things that should make them very town, and then that person does something that I find rand wolf, maybe I would call it out and question it and try to figure out if I could've been wrong there. But I wouldn't straight up call that person concerning without having the earlier things in mind.

It's different if a person I'm null on would say something that's rand wolf, THEN I might call that person straight up concerning.

It's different in my mind to call a *thing* as off, and what you did, "wisdom is really conerning me". That implies that person is higher on your suspect list and you want others to put focus there.

Which leads me to believe you're not trying to find a towncore but just looking for things to push on (preferably breaking up the current consensus towncore if it's correct), which is how wolves like to do things

[Jackofhearts2005]

What is an ITA?

In Thread Attack.
During the ITA window you have a chance to attack someone, with a 10% chance of hitting. Everyone has one shot each today.

(Actually I might be willing to derp clear for this)

I think Wilgy is probably spewed town but fyi, it’s not out of his range to fake that.

[Jackofhearts2005]

@Wisdom I think Wilgy is more likely to have himself bussed over bussing another teammate.

I also am trying to think of a world where mafia hellbussed hk, and given that he was a PR, it doesn't seem like an optimal solution. If there are 5-6 mafia, they had plenty of voting power. But maybe the mafia team is just low WIM, and that WIM dropped even lower after that Alison shot.

I realize now I had read the ITA rules incorrectly. I thought we each got a shot in each window, but the reality is that we only get one shot total, so there was no rush to use it.


The reason I was proposing a list and pushing that discussion forward was twofold

1) If there were a 6 wolves, then utilizing all of our KP to eliminate them is important to lower the mafia/town ratio quickly and finding a consensus for who to ITA would be helpful.
2) I have a single Day 2 vig shot, and plan on using it after the second ITA window closes.

Agreed on Wilgy meta.

Strong townieMarmot vibes from this post.

[Jackofhearts2005]

This is DrWilgy's vote from early Day 1.

[VOTE: HK] aubergine is a wolf this game and is to be yeeted at last light.

This is an imperial decree and shall not be revoked.

And given hk's posts to that point:

I'd say I'm fashionably late but by the looks of things I'm still early

so goodby for days

I think it's a bussable vote. I wouldn't put it past Wilgy to vote a teammate early on like this.

Marmot is very likely town, here.

Synapses firing for solving Marmot that you don’t see from fake solving Marmot.

If this shit was already obvious from wolf spew/pressuring wolves, imma feel a bit silly but w/e. That goes for all my reads until I fully catch up.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Like I’m in mash mode but this game is only 10 pages.

[dyachei]

Then i find it quite concerning you have wisdom as concerning tbh

They should be the most clear person in the game from interactions with Alison/HK almost never being w/w ontop of shooting Alison when there were a lot of shots that would've been more consensus at the time. And Wisdom's general tone/solving/WIM is also one of the highest in the game. But even ignoring that last point, I feel your focus this game has been kind of off

I also have troubles with your post yesterday basically saying "Both HK and Alison I wanna leave alive til later before i try reading them, since they get easier to read over time".

you don't think it's weird she's attributing shit to me that I've never said? Like I didnt even have a read on marmot and my read on alison was I do better reading her later

You can't understand why that's concerning fmpov?

I think it's concerning that your view doesn't give off a holistic feeling.

Like, if person A has done a ton of things that should make them very town, and then that person does something that I find rand wolf, maybe I would call it out and question it and try to figure out if I could've been wrong there. But I wouldn't straight up call that person concerning without having the earlier things in mind.

It's different if a person I'm null on would say something that's rand wolf, THEN I might call that person straight up concerning.

It's different in my mind to call a *thing* as off, and what you did, "wisdom is really conerning me". That implies that person is higher on your suspect list and you want others to put focus there.

Which leads me to believe you're not trying to find a towncore but just looking for things to push on (preferably breaking up the current consensus towncore if it's correct), which is how wolves like to do things

1. wisdom is always a hard read for me. I don't clear her or suspect her easily

2. concerning does not mean wolf. It means I'm confused about the things she's attributing to me. I can see several reasons for this. Only 1 is that she's a wolf trying to set me up. She could be misattributing posts to me that werent mine - like sabi heavily defended alison based on a brad read. is she thinking of that? Where is this read of marmot that's being attribute to me coming from?

3. I have started a towncore and it has you in it. Probably Jack as well. I'm sticking with people I can read better than wisdom, despite what you may think about her

[dyachei]

Wisdom: Probably 4 wolves left
Me: There’s no fucking way.
Me: Checks draft order. 8 wolf picks. psyduck.jpg
Me: Absolute inability to fully read a setup

Do appreciate the readlist. Dya sounds super wolfy from that tbh. Marmot also out of place in the readlist but w/e.

you do realize several things she said I did I never did, right?

[dyachei]

fwiw, in a game like this i'd think that alison would be a bus target simply because she was very likely to be drafted by any wolf team

[Jackofhearts2005]

Dya: I can read Jack well
Me: Strong conflicted feelings

[dyachei]

Dya: I can read Jack well
Me: Strong conflicted feelings

I've done it before and I'll do it again. I was one of the only people defending you in champs finale that year and that's the meta I'm using

[Jackofhearts2005]

Wisdom: Probably 4 wolves left
Me: There’s no fucking way.
Me: Checks draft order. 8 wolf picks. psyduck.jpg
Me: Absolute inability to fully read a setup

Do appreciate the readlist. Dya sounds super wolfy from that tbh. Marmot also out of place in the readlist but w/e.

you do realize several things she said I did I never did, right?

I have taken note that you have said that and will not like ita shoot you or vote you based on Wisdom’s post.

But I will look into you based on it.

[dyachei]

like jack just read my posts yourself

[Jackofhearts2005]

And also because the game isn’t that long and I literally have nothing to do today at work.

[Wisdom]

(Just a polite reminder that Dya's pronouns are they/them)

[Shending_Help]

So Axe V lean, me V lean, wisdom W lean

Is that all you have so far dya?

No thoughts at all bout Sabi / HK / Sean / Alison?

I'm not the best reader of sabi so holding off there for now. HK i usually get better at reading as time goes on. Same with alison

i dont want to vote seanzie, dunya, alison, SS or NAA today. who does that leave?

Why didn't you add HK to the people you didn't wanna vote, if he's in the same bucket as Alison as a person you think you're better at reading as the game goes on?

What differentiated those 2 people in your mind when you made this list of "i dont wanna vote"?

[dyachei]

So Axe V lean, me V lean, wisdom W lean

Is that all you have so far dya?

No thoughts at all bout Sabi / HK / Sean / Alison?

I'm not the best reader of sabi so holding off there for now. HK i usually get better at reading as time goes on. Same with alison

i dont want to vote seanzie, dunya, alison, SS or NAA today. who does that leave?

Why didn't you add HK to the people you didn't wanna vote, if he's in the same bucket as Alison as a person you think you're better at reading as the game goes on?

What differentiated those 2 people in your mind when you made this list of "i dont wanna vote"?

was HK a lead wagon at that time? I don't recall. But I probably just forgot to include HK because I literally pointed out I get better at reading him as time goes on.

Seanzie and dunya are very strong players so I wanted to give them the benefit of doubt. You and NAA I was villa reading

[Jackofhearts2005]

Then i find it quite concerning you have wisdom as concerning tbh

They should be the most clear person in the game from interactions with Alison/HK almost never being w/w ontop of shooting Alison when there were a lot of shots that would've been more consensus at the time. And Wisdom's general tone/solving/WIM is also one of the highest in the game. But even ignoring that last point, I feel your focus this game has been kind of off

I also have troubles with your post yesterday basically saying "Both HK and Alison I wanna leave alive til later before i try reading them, since they get easier to read over time".

you don't think it's weird she's attributing shit to me that I've never said? Like I didnt even have a read on marmot and my read on alison was I do better reading her later

You can't understand why that's concerning fmpov?

This is understandable and NAI. Maybe even slightly townie.

New kitty Ross is being very loud and affectionate this morning.

[Wisdom]

Oh screw me there's more posts than my phone initially told me. I'll check the Dya/Marmot/Alison stuff, might have herped, don't trust my covid brain atm!

[Wisdom]

I'd probably shoot falcon. felt like they added nothing to the game yesterday. but i do have 1 concern

Okay yeah I obviously meant Falcon and not Marmot, which Dya initially understood. Don't see the point in fretting about this.

[Wisdom]

i dont want to vote seanzie, dunya, alison, SS or NAA today. who does that leave?

Also wouldn't say that it's "concerning" that I said Dya had a TR on Alison. The implication is right here.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Then i find it quite concerning you have wisdom as concerning tbh

They should be the most clear person in the game from interactions with Alison/HK almost never being w/w ontop of shooting Alison when there were a lot of shots that would've been more consensus at the time. And Wisdom's general tone/solving/WIM is also one of the highest in the game. But even ignoring that last point, I feel your focus this game has been kind of off

I also have troubles with your post yesterday basically saying "Both HK and Alison I wanna leave alive til later before i try reading them, since they get easier to read over time".

you don't think it's weird she's attributing shit to me that I've never said? Like I didnt even have a read on marmot and my read on alison was I do better reading her later

You can't understand why that's concerning fmpov?

I think it's concerning that your view doesn't give off a holistic feeling.

Like, if person A has done a ton of things that should make them very town, and then that person does something that I find rand wolf, maybe I would call it out and question it and try to figure out if I could've been wrong there. But I wouldn't straight up call that person concerning without having the earlier things in mind.

It's different if a person I'm null on would say something that's rand wolf, THEN I might call that person straight up concerning.

It's different in my mind to call a *thing* as off, and what you did, "wisdom is really conerning me". That implies that person is higher on your suspect list and you want others to put focus there.

Which leads me to believe you're not trying to find a towncore but just looking for things to push on (preferably breaking up the current consensus towncore if it's correct), which is how wolves like to do things

I kinda feel the opposite.

In that there’s not very much wolf agenda to push Wisdom, who is never getting misyeeted itg. And if Dya really said those things and Wisdom is correct? What good is claiming misattribution going to do?

Contrast town Dya, who is giving those statements because they’re just true from their pov.

[dyachei]

i dont want to vote seanzie, dunya, alison, SS or NAA today. who does that leave?

Also wouldn't say that it's "concerning" that I said Dya had a TR on Alison. The implication is right here.

read the post like RIGHT before it where I said I didnt have a read on alison because I do better reading her later in the game.

Out of context, sure I can see it. In context it's clear what I meant

[Wisdom]

fwiw, in a game like this i'd think that alison would be a bus target simply because she was very likely to be drafted by any wolf team

I don't understand the mindset between this and saying that you didn't want to vote Alison yesterday.

[dyachei]

fwiw, in a game like this i'd think that alison would be a bus target simply because she was very likely to be drafted by any wolf team

I don't understand the mindset between this and saying that you didn't want to vote Alison yesterday.

I wanted a chance to read her? I dont think everyone with alison suspicions is clear today

[Shending_Help]

Then i find it quite concerning you have wisdom as concerning tbh

They should be the most clear person in the game from interactions with Alison/HK almost never being w/w ontop of shooting Alison when there were a lot of shots that would've been more consensus at the time. And Wisdom's general tone/solving/WIM is also one of the highest in the game. But even ignoring that last point, I feel your focus this game has been kind of off

I also have troubles with your post yesterday basically saying "Both HK and Alison I wanna leave alive til later before i try reading them, since they get easier to read over time".

you don't think it's weird she's attributing shit to me that I've never said? Like I didnt even have a read on marmot and my read on alison was I do better reading her later

You can't understand why that's concerning fmpov?

I think it's concerning that your view doesn't give off a holistic feeling.

Like, if person A has done a ton of things that should make them very town, and then that person does something that I find rand wolf, maybe I would call it out and question it and try to figure out if I could've been wrong there. But I wouldn't straight up call that person concerning without having the earlier things in mind.

It's different if a person I'm null on would say something that's rand wolf, THEN I might call that person straight up concerning.

It's different in my mind to call a *thing* as off, and what you did, "wisdom is really conerning me". That implies that person is higher on your suspect list and you want others to put focus there.

Which leads me to believe you're not trying to find a towncore but just looking for things to push on (preferably breaking up the current consensus towncore if it's correct), which is how wolves like to do things

I kinda feel the opposite.

In that there’s not very much wolf agenda to push Wisdom, who is never getting misyeeted itg. And if Dya really said those things and Wisdom is correct? What good is claiming misattribution going to do?

Contrast town Dya, who is giving those statements because they’re just true from their pov.

We were never in the world where Dya actually said those things and still claiming misattribution. I was never implying that and you missed my point if that's what you thought i was saying.

I'm saying V!dya would have a reason to go "oh this is weird but Wisdom is prolly still town for shooting Alison and not being w/w with HK" while W!dya would have a reason to ignore those things and see if they could make others tinfoil a bit on wisdom just in case that misyeet is needed further down the line

It's possible what Dya is saying is from a town!POV. That they really think it's NAI to push/shoot Alison because Alison would be a bussable slot for draft reasons. And that Dya thinks that the HK interactions aren't useful because of some reason I haven't seen Dya adress yet. And that Dya is ignoring Wisdom on principle because they are more confident in reading other people.

But I think the world where Dya is wolfing makes so much more sense

[Wisdom]

i dont want to vote seanzie, dunya, alison, SS or NAA today. who does that leave?

Also wouldn't say that it's "concerning" that I said Dya had a TR on Alison. The implication is right here.

read the post like RIGHT before it where I said I didnt have a read on alison because I do better reading her later in the game.

Out of context, sure I can see it. In context it's clear what I meant

I mean, sure, but if we're quitting the semantics you still directly soft defended both HK and Alison, regardless of what your actual reads were.

I just don't see why you're trying to make it sound like I don't make sense. Feels like you're stuck on the smaller details rather than the bigger picture, in a way that's intended to discredit me rather than trying to help town.

Sorry, I don't wanna be rude! Can you give me two names that you think would flip wolf?

[dyachei]

i never said that the HK posts arent worth looking at or are not useful

I would probably just v read wisdom if I were a wolf because like...she shot a wolf and I bus

[dyachei]

i dont want to vote seanzie, dunya, alison, SS or NAA today. who does that leave?

Also wouldn't say that it's "concerning" that I said Dya had a TR on Alison. The implication is right here.

read the post like RIGHT before it where I said I didnt have a read on alison because I do better reading her later in the game.

Out of context, sure I can see it. In context it's clear what I meant

I mean, sure, but if we're quitting the semantics you still directly soft defended both HK and Alison, regardless of what your actual reads were.

I just don't see why you're trying to make it sound like I don't make sense. Feels like you're stuck on the smaller details rather than the bigger picture, in a way that's intended to discredit me rather than trying to help town.

Sorry, I don't wanna be rude! Can you give me two names that you think would flip wolf?

I wouldn't call that a defense. I also didnt stop anyone else from voting hk or alison

falcon for 1 (with the caveat I mentioned earlier)

Maybe sabi, too

[Wisdom]

I'm not as good at reading Shen in forum as I am IRL. I still town read him, but... I guess I'm in a position that makes it harder for me to read him. He sounds a bit pockety but that also makes some sense.

[Sabiplz]

I dunno how to feel about the dya/wisdom interaction. Dya mentioned twice, iirc, that they struggle to read HK and me on day one before hk flip so it's not like they were hard defending either of us.

I also don't get why I'm getting scumread. What is the scum motivation of me defending a mafia Goon with no power over a mafia player with power? That world view doesn't make sense.

[Sabiplz]

@DrWilgy you haven't interacted with me but you silently voted for me. May I ask what is your read on me?

[Sabiplz]

2) I have a single Day 2 vig shot, and plan on using it after the second ITA window closes.

That's very Pog.

In other news: I'm like halfway through my re-read of the game, and my current towncore is:

Me
Wisdom
Sean
You
Cape
*slight gap*
Sabi (especially if Dya is a wolf, which is where i'm leaning. But *probably* town regardless)



I also wanna tell you that I think you're wrong where you in #199 townread Dya for her post that was complaining about Wisdom's V-read on her being not deserved.

That's a very Dyachei kind of post, but not an AI one IMO.

Anyway, more thoughts of mine coming in a while (that's mostly gonna be me justifying my towncore)

(I'm also retracting my Cop cover, so I don't have Spacedaisy as n0 anymore)

@Shending_Help any reason why you changed your mind on me?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Then i find it quite concerning you have wisdom as concerning tbh

They should be the most clear person in the game from interactions with Alison/HK almost never being w/w ontop of shooting Alison when there were a lot of shots that would've been more consensus at the time. And Wisdom's general tone/solving/WIM is also one of the highest in the game. But even ignoring that last point, I feel your focus this game has been kind of off

I also have troubles with your post yesterday basically saying "Both HK and Alison I wanna leave alive til later before i try reading them, since they get easier to read over time".

you don't think it's weird she's attributing shit to me that I've never said? Like I didnt even have a read on marmot and my read on alison was I do better reading her later

You can't understand why that's concerning fmpov?

I think it's concerning that your view doesn't give off a holistic feeling.

Like, if person A has done a ton of things that should make them very town, and then that person does something that I find rand wolf, maybe I would call it out and question it and try to figure out if I could've been wrong there. But I wouldn't straight up call that person concerning without having the earlier things in mind.

It's different if a person I'm null on would say something that's rand wolf, THEN I might call that person straight up concerning.

It's different in my mind to call a *thing* as off, and what you did, "wisdom is really conerning me". That implies that person is higher on your suspect list and you want others to put focus there.

Which leads me to believe you're not trying to find a towncore but just looking for things to push on (preferably breaking up the current consensus towncore if it's correct), which is how wolves like to do things

I kinda feel the opposite.

In that there’s not very much wolf agenda to push Wisdom, who is never getting misyeeted itg. And if Dya really said those things and Wisdom is correct? What good is claiming misattribution going to do?

Contrast town Dya, who is giving those statements because they’re just true from their pov.

We were never in the world where Dya actually said those things and still claiming misattribution. I was never implying that and you missed my point if that's what you thought i was saying.

I'm saying V!dya would have a reason to go "oh this is weird but Wisdom is prolly still town for shooting Alison and not being w/w with HK" while W!dya would have a reason to ignore those things and see if they could make others tinfoil a bit on wisdom just in case that misyeet is needed further down the line

It's possible what Dya is saying is from a town!POV. That they really think it's NAI to push/shoot Alison because Alison would be a bussable slot for draft reasons. And that Dya thinks that the HK interactions aren't useful because of some reason I haven't seen Dya adress yet. And that Dya is ignoring Wisdom on principle because they are more confident in reading other people.

But I think the world where Dya is wolfing makes so much more sense

I wasn’t saying you said that.

I was saying that Dya taking that as “concerning” and the light shade on Wisdom that implies is more likely to come from town Dya than wolf Dya.

Dya being like “but I never said those things” is NAI.

Dya being like “it concerns me that Wisdom is saying I said those things” is town indicative. Not a lock town read for me but that’s the first real clue to their alignment fmpov (having missed large chunks of the game).

[Jackofhearts2005]

Dya: I can read Jack well
Me: Strong conflicted feelings

I've done it before and I'll do it again. I was one of the only people defending you in champs finale that year and that's the meta I'm using

I’m not saying you can’t read me well. It’s just that it’s good for townDya to correctly townread townJack itg right now given we are both in the poe but it’s long run bad for future wolfJacks if you can correctly read me. Hence internal conflict.

[Jackofhearts2005]

So Axe V lean, me V lean, wisdom W lean

Is that all you have so far dya?

No thoughts at all bout Sabi / HK / Sean / Alison?

I'm not the best reader of sabi so holding off there for now. HK i usually get better at reading as time goes on. Same with alison

i dont want to vote seanzie, dunya, alison, SS or NAA today. who does that leave?

Why didn't you add HK to the people you didn't wanna vote, if he's in the same bucket as Alison as a person you think you're better at reading as the game goes on?

What differentiated those 2 people in your mind when you made this list of "i dont wanna vote"?

Honestly, it would be kinda weird for a wolf to try to forgo reading two different partners under the idea they are good at reading them later. Plus, I think HK is kinda easy to read? Like his town and wolf games aren’t the same.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Okay I'm like "caught up" on stuff since the Alison shot. I'm gonna go back and just read the whole game with the knowledge that HK and Alison are wolves and see what I can see.

[DrWilgy]

What is an ITA?

In Thread Attack.
During the ITA window you have a chance to attack someone, with a 10% chance of hitting. Everyone has one shot each today.

(Actually I might be willing to derp clear for this)

Jokes on you. I'd likely not have known as either alignment.