GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 Endgame (town and 3p win)

[Justplayingitcool]

I will shield creature today if I have to

[DrWilgy]

I'm kinda paranoid over nutella too

Talk to me about this.

[112]

112
DrWilgy
LinearPoint
Paopan
sabie12
sig
Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime

these 8 can all go based on EOD

LOL

literally what did i do

[Dyslexicon]

also the game just ended where guillo fooled TF out of me as a wolf, and when i realized he was a wolf there, that was part of what spurred my push because I realized almost anything is in his wolf range.

Oof.

[Phil and Gloria]

wait guillo claimed vig, @Guillotine do you claim one of the shots?

guillo shooting Axe would not surprise

[Creature]

I'm pondering voting

112
Dyslexicon
Master Radishes
Paopan
Phil and Gloria
sig
Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime

[falcon45ca]

If someone asks me one more time 'are you actually a wolf/wolfing' I'm gonna do something drastic like eat a whole sandwich.

Eating an entire sandwich isn’t that hard.

Yeah, but MR has no teeth and a gluten sensitivity

[alexa]

I'm kinda paranoid over nutella too

IDT i'll ever come around to her being a wolf after the whole thing SOD1.

also, i don't want to say anything else, but she is semi-confirmable

[Phil and Gloria]

Creature and hk being in this list feels silly. I'm also increasingly thinking TSP's town.

Why is that silly? I should look into HK though. My list is instinct, and it probably works way better than overthinking.

I just think they're both obvious town

Creature is

[Phil and Gloria]

Phil and Gloria might be wolf

why do you say that?

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: Pao] aubergine

Can't tell if Falcon diff check or memes.

I don't have a check on Pao

[Phil and Gloria]

i like this list for the most part

i'm at leaning town on creature and lp at this point, would swap in porscha and.... idk guillo?

I don't think Porscha. Maybe I'm missing something with Guillo and I just think I can read him while I actually can't. I probably haven't payed too much attention to his posts after I decided he was town tbh

Can someone explain why Creature is town?

Surely you've played many a game with Creature?

[112]

also the game just ended where guillo fooled TF out of me as a wolf, and when i realized he was a wolf there, that was part of what spurred my push because I realized almost anything is in his wolf range.

Oof.

alexa/dizzy:
w/w or w/t?

[Phil and Gloria]

sig and Sloonei also have mafia potential

why sig?

[sabie12]

I'm kinda paranoid over nutella too

IDT i'll ever come around to her being a wolf after the whole thing SOD1.

also, i don't want to say anything else, but she is semi-confirmable

Is she confirmed at this point?

[Dyslexicon]

If people who know Creature think he's town, I'm good with sheeping that. I don't really know him, though I'm sure we have played several times actually. Put Paopan in instead.

[DrWilgy]

I will shield creature today if I have to

Creature saying all wagons were likely T gives me odd vibes.

Like I was openly wolf siding all day yesterday.

[Phil and Gloria]

tbh wilgy thinking radishes is wolfy makes me feel better about radishes ironically

you suspect wilgy?

[Dyslexicon]

also the game just ended where guillo fooled TF out of me as a wolf, and when i realized he was a wolf there, that was part of what spurred my push because I realized almost anything is in his wolf range.

Oof.

alexa/dizzy:
w/w or w/t?

Explain your deep thoughts behind this

[Sloonei]

112
DrWilgy
LinearPoint
Paopan
sabie12
sig
Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime

these 8 can all go based on EOD

LOL

literally what did i do

I’m assuming that is a POE list because I literally was not here at EoD and I doubt I was a hot topic of conversation.

[112]

i am convinced that nobody who plays mafia with me knows how to read me these days.

i do not even know how to read myself.

i am unreadable.

i am god.

[alexa]

112
DrWilgy
LinearPoint
Paopan
sabie12
sig
Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime

these 8 can all go based on EOD

LOL

literally what did i do

you had a post that pinged me yesterday and uhhh POE

realistically that list has at least 2 non-mafia and i wouldn't be surprised if half the list was wrong because lolme if i somehow got the whole scumteam there, i'm guessing it has 2-4 with 6 wolves left and a couple people are deeper but it's just people i think are decent votes

do you think you should be townread?

[Phil and Gloria]

We could just put the people on the Sean wagon and cut that playerbase in half.
Seemed pretty Mafia driven with likely 2-3 on it.

But then we hit like 60% town easy. Bad take.

Wrong.
Sean wagon: Urist, NotAnAxehole, Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, DrWilgy, nutella
Urist and NAA already dead.
Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, DrWilgy, nutella. At least 2 of these are Mafia. Probably 3.

hmm you are most likely correct

[DrWilgy]

wait guillo claimed vig, @Guillotine do you claim one of the shots?

guillo shooting Axe would not surprise

Axe and Urist dying at the same time screams scum bullets to me.

[Justplayingitcool]

tbh wilgy thinking radishes is wolfy makes me feel better about radishes ironically

you suspect wilgy?

he had a wolfy EoD and SoD, though his more recent posts are better

[112]

112
DrWilgy
LinearPoint
Paopan
sabie12
sig
Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime

these 8 can all go based on EOD

LOL

literally what did i do

I’m assuming that is a POE list because I literally was not here at EoD and I doubt I was a hot topic of conversation.

"based on EOD"

incredible slip from alexa

[nutella]

[VOTE: 112 drwilgy hollowkatt paopan porscha sabie12 sloonei] aubergine

that's 7 but everyone else i feel like i have some reason to not want to vote

[Dyslexicon]

Surely you've played many a game with Creature?

I have played some, but they are few and far between, and I don't remember his play. He posts a lot sometimes?

[Phil and Gloria]

112
Creature
DrWilgy
hollowkatt
LinearPoint
sabie12
sig
TonyStarkPrime

Boom. If there's not wolf in here I quit mafia forever. Probably.

Creature and hk being in this list feels silly. I'm also increasingly thinking TSP's town.

yeah i guess i'm ok on tsp too

but why hk

i feel like hk has floated around doing nothing, what has he done thats AI at all? i feel like he'd get heated about *something* as town. i have no qualms with flipping him

why are you ok on tsp exactly?

[DrWilgy]

also the game just ended where guillo fooled TF out of me as a wolf, and when i realized he was a wolf there, that was part of what spurred my push because I realized almost anything is in his wolf range.

Oof.

alexa/dizzy:
w/w or w/t?

Wat

[alexa]

also the game just ended where guillo fooled TF out of me as a wolf, and when i realized he was a wolf there, that was part of what spurred my push because I realized almost anything is in his wolf range.

Oof.

alexa/dizzy:
w/w or w/t?

either t/w or t/t tbh

[Creature]

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

[VOTE: TonyStarkPrime] aubergine

[Phil and Gloria]

tbh wilgy thinking radishes is wolfy makes me feel better about radishes ironically

Preflipping me is a bad take.

Like, because it's me specifically.

you're very participatory and committed all of a sudden... why?

[112]

112
DrWilgy
LinearPoint
Paopan
sabie12
sig
Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime

these 8 can all go based on EOD

LOL

literally what did i do

you had a post that pinged me yesterday and uhhh POE

realistically that list has at least 2 non-mafia and i wouldn't be surprised if half the list was wrong because lolme if i somehow got the whole scumteam there, i'm guessing it has 2-4 with 6 wolves left and a couple people are deeper but it's just people i think are decent votes

do you think you should be townread?

i think reasonably it is fruitless to try to read me in a game where i am able to read 1/10 of the posts posted

but yeah i've done towny things and made towny posts and am towny relative to my ability to be present

so yes i should be townread

[alexa]

112
DrWilgy
LinearPoint
Paopan
sabie12
sig
Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime

these 8 can all go based on EOD

LOL

literally what did i do

I’m assuming that is a POE list because I literally was not here at EoD and I doubt I was a hot topic of conversation.

"based on EOD"

incredible slip from alexa

the people there based on EOD who wouldn't have been were Wilgy, Paopan, Sabie, and TSP.

That's not a slip lmao

[Phil and Gloria]

112
DrWilgy
LinearPoint
Paopan
sabie12
sig
Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime

these 8 can all go based on EOD

actually i like this list most so far

you just said you were townreading lp and tsp?

[Dyslexicon]

i am convinced that nobody who plays mafia with me knows how to read me these days.

i do not even know how to read myself.

i am unreadable.

i am god.

Join the club lol. Didn't you nag all game that I was scum last GoC, and then you turned out to be some cult anti-town monster 3p or something? HMMM

[DrWilgy]

We could just put the people on the Sean wagon and cut that playerbase in half.
Seemed pretty Mafia driven with likely 2-3 on it.

But then we hit like 60% town easy. Bad take.

Wrong.
Sean wagon: Urist, NotAnAxehole, Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, DrWilgy, nutella
Urist and NAA already dead.
Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, DrWilgy, nutella. At least 2 of these are Mafia. Probably 3.

hmm you are most likely correct

I'm vibin with a hydra head. Send help.

[Phil and Gloria]

What about the hydra?

The hydra missed the cut. I think Mac was towny D1. Do you suspect the hydra?

What about me?

[Phil and Gloria]

i like this list for the most part

i'm at leaning town on creature and lp at this point, would swap in porscha and.... idk guillo?

I don't think Porscha. Maybe I'm missing something with Guillo and I just think I can read him while I actually can't. I probably haven't payed too much attention to his posts after I decided he was town tbh

Can someone explain why Creature is town?

In his scum game, I seem to recall him pushing a much harder agenda and was a lot stiffer in how he interacted. In the town game I have seen, he just seems detached from everything and that reminds me a little bit of that. It's mainly meta which isn't strong.

Only scummy thing I remember was the marmot interaction I had with him

It frustrates me that he doesn't explain why he has the reads he has. This is not something I think is normal for him?

[nutella]

112
Creature
DrWilgy
hollowkatt
LinearPoint
sabie12
sig
TonyStarkPrime

Boom. If there's not wolf in here I quit mafia forever. Probably.

Creature and hk being in this list feels silly. I'm also increasingly thinking TSP's town.

yeah i guess i'm ok on tsp too

but why hk

i feel like hk has floated around doing nothing, what has he done thats AI at all? i feel like he'd get heated about *something* as town. i have no qualms with flipping him

why are you ok on tsp exactly?

you know i have no idea

i was going to say because he was posting a lot at eod and seemed natural/unfiltered etc but that's also exactly what tsp is good at doing as scum so like

who tf knows

i cant read the kid for shit

[alexa]

112
DrWilgy
LinearPoint
Paopan
sabie12
sig
Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime

these 8 can all go based on EOD

LOL

literally what did i do

you had a post that pinged me yesterday and uhhh POE

realistically that list has at least 2 non-mafia and i wouldn't be surprised if half the list was wrong because lolme if i somehow got the whole scumteam there, i'm guessing it has 2-4 with 6 wolves left and a couple people are deeper but it's just people i think are decent votes

do you think you should be townread?

i think reasonably it is fruitless to try to read me in a game where i am able to read 1/10 of the posts posted

but yeah i've done towny things and made towny posts and am towny relative to my ability to be present

so yes i should be townread

ok well you were loosely part of that list and not a strong read, i think your reaction to this is kind of okay and i'd probably modify it

the only person i'm voting rn is paopan

[Creature]

Kinda weird most wolfy names are in the bottom of the alphabetical playerlist

[LinearPoint]

Seanzie ( 7 ): Urist, NotAnAxehole, Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, DrWilgy, nutella
DrWilgy ( 6 ): sabie, dyachei, ender, sean, radishes, c4
NotAnAxehole ( 4 ): Guillotine, alexa, Phil and Gloria, ilario
EnderWiggin ( 3 ): dyslexicon, jpic, falcon
112 ( 1 ): Sloonei
Dyslexicon ( 1 ): BoKnows
falcon45ca ( 1 ): 112
Porscha ( 1 ): linearpoint
sig ( 1 ): hollowkatt
Not Voting ( 3 ): Creature, sig, porscha

Seanzie: Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, DrWilgy, nutella
Wiggly voted self preservation, TSP lead the wagon, need more on the other 3 as to why they voted it. Probably 2 Mafia exactly.

DrWilgy: sabie, dyachei, radishes, c4
Dya shot Marmot so not them, the other 3 maybe 1 Mafia as a counterwagon if Wiggly is not Mafia.

NotAnAxehole: Guillotine, alexa, Phil and Gloria, ilario
This wagon is a bit sus so probably 1-2 Mafia in it, but it kind of ended up being a vanity wagon so if Wiggly is Mafia, Mafia being on this wagon makes little sense.

EnderWiggin: dyslexicon, jpic, falcon
One wagon that was in the CFDS. Possibly 1 Maf, not guarenteed.

Not voting/pure vanity: Sloonei, 112, hollowkatt, Creature, sig, porscha, and Linearpoint (Neeko)
1 to 2 Mafia in this list based on other analysis.

Neeko thinks we should focus on 2 of these groups of people for the vote of 8 OR choose a handful of suspicious from each.
Neekos proposal based on this would be: Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, nutella/Wiggly, Guillotine, alexa, Phil and Gloria, ilario as the logical solving mechanically.
One can argue instead of "Guillotine, alexa, Phil and Gloria, ilario" putting 'sabie, dyachei, radishes, c4" also is logical to solve mechanically.

IF neeko were to suggest scummiest of all groups the list would look closer to this:
Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, Guillotine, Phil and Gloria, Sabie, radishes, jpic, falcon with possibly substituting one for c4 or Dizzy.

[112]

i am convinced that nobody who plays mafia with me knows how to read me these days.

i do not even know how to read myself.

i am unreadable.

i am god.

Join the club lol. Didn't you nag all game that I was scum last GoC, and then you turned out to be some cult anti-town monster 3p or something? HMMM

i do not remember more than 5 minutes ago generally, so not sure

i will townread you for the rest of the game because of this interaction, however

[alexa]

vote: wilgy

now i'm also voting wilgy

[Phil and Gloria]

Yesterday's EOD wagons were NAA, Ender, Wilgy and Seanzie

It's very possible they were all town

it's also possible they were not

[Dyslexicon]

i do not remember more than 5 minutes ago generally, so not sure

i will townread you for the rest of the game because of this interaction, however

I think you've done it twice as scum actually. You should probably choose a different tactic next time. The north remembers.

[Dyslexicon]

It's funny cause I'm Norwegian. Which is a meme.

[Creature]

i like this list for the most part

i'm at leaning town on creature and lp at this point, would swap in porscha and.... idk guillo?

I don't think Porscha. Maybe I'm missing something with Guillo and I just think I can read him while I actually can't. I probably haven't payed too much attention to his posts after I decided he was town tbh

Can someone explain why Creature is town?

In his scum game, I seem to recall him pushing a much harder agenda and was a lot stiffer in how he interacted. In the town game I have seen, he just seems detached from everything and that reminds me a little bit of that. It's mainly meta which isn't strong.

Only scummy thing I remember was the marmot interaction I had with him

It frustrates me that he doesn't explain why he has the reads he has. This is not something I think is normal for him?

I just tried to explain why Marmot felt wolfy at the time. I'm not very good at translating my feelings into academical words though.