GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 Endgame (town and 3p win)

[TonyStarkPrime]

Who has shots and why also

I have a shot, strongly thinking about shooting you. Any legacy you want to give before I do?

don't do that smh

wolves probably:

that w/w pair I called out earlier (don't remember either member)
nutella (idk)
mr (3p)
lp
sabie

towns probably:
alexa
whoever shot the dead wolf (was it c4)
the one who's apparently not a gav alt

[TonyStarkPrime]

Wait did MR claim 3P

I dont think he did? he just seems flat to me

i saw someone said he was 3p

[TonyStarkPrime]

ok he's clearly not 3p let's move on smh

[TonyStarkPrime]

hwo lied to me

[c4e5g3d5]

ok he's clearly not 3p let's move on smh

Not w/w

[TonyStarkPrime]

waiting for something exciting to happen or else I'll have to read back later and I don't want to

[TonyStarkPrime]

no voters are all wolves

[falcon45ca]

waiting for something exciting to happen or else I'll have to read back later and I don't want to

Make sumfin' exciting happen.



Stir some shit up yo

[TonyStarkPrime]

i'm too tired rn

[TonyStarkPrime]

I've been practicing organ but I think i need to get back to life

[NotAnAxehole]

What time is EoD? 6pm EST - So I give my red check at 3:59pm... I think?

[LinearPoint]

What time is EoD? 6pm EST - So I give my red check at 3:59pm... I think?

Hmmm. Which timezone?
Neeko knows your loophole tricks.

[Sloonei]

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

Where's that spark I saw in RYM 96

I left it there

[nutella]

Dizzy and creature are marmot's teammates and people saying they're townie are incorrect

[VOTE: creature] aubergine

[c4e5g3d5]

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

Where's that spark I saw in RYM 96

I left it there

What made this the first post you responded to upon coming back

[NotAnAxehole]

What time is EoD? 6pm EST - So I give my red check at 3:59pm... I think?

Hmmm. Which timezone?
Neeko knows your loophole tricks.

[nutella]

I did feel better about creature for a bit but marmot was very weird about the Alison case and creature hasn't done anything today

[nutella]

And dizzy would def defend a teammate seeing that degree of d1 pressure like that

[Sloonei]

I will say this once: I an semi-retired and in no position to play with the sort of energy people are used to from me.

On top of that, I had no power for 12 hours today and could not connect to the internet or do anything that involved electricity. This game was not even on my mind while this was happening. Prodding me is useless. I can give feedback if you have direct questions for me. But mostly I will just be hanging around and commenting on what I see/shitposting.

[Sloonei]

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

Where's that spark I saw in RYM 96

I left it there

What made this the first post you responded to upon coming back

I noticed it. It had my name surrounded by vote tags.

[nutella]

Here is my case on Creature.

All of Creature's posts so far can be divided into one of three categories: useless fluff, attempting to derpclear himself for silly reasons, and "flame fanning".

Category 1: Useless Fluff

Spoiler: show

Why does the game always start when I'm the most low energy?

Wow this got intense so quick

Is this game by any chance bastard? I didn't check before joining

Who is Neeko?

Would much rather just be mafia in bastard games

I think you are.

I'm not mafia and this makes your push on me even more annoying

These posts go beyond the usual RVS horsing around (although we are well out of RVS now). These are posts that show a clear lack of interest in the progression of the game. His questions are flat, shallow, and in many cases could have been easily answered by glancing at the OP. He is more interested in looking like he is around and engaging with the game than actually being around and engaging with the game. He had a ripe opportunity to engage with me about my push on him, and he responded by going "I'm not mafia, I'm annoyed now, go away". I don't get the sense that he cares whether or not I am town misreading him or scum trying to get him killed, and this is especially concerning because in my last scum game I tried to get him killed early on.

I believe him when he says he is low energy. Take note that being low energy and unable to meaningfully engage with the game is a classic Creature scumtell.

Category 2: Attempting to derpclear himself for silly reasons

Spoiler: show

I want the guilty on nutella to be legit

Is soup kill a thing?

Would much rather just be mafia in bastard games

Wait I think the existence of a mafia captain should almost clear me from ever being picked as mafia this game

Unless you want to argue that I'm 3p here? But would be better to seek for the seven mafia first.

If I was mafia captain I would choose players tbh even if it is not mechanically optimal. I would much rather have an enjoyable team to play with.

I know I'd never be picked by the mafia captain if they chose players over roles

Creature makes an excessive number of posts attempting to insinuate that he is town, or in some way get people to "angleshoot" him as being town due to his lack of knowledge about the game mechanics or the inner workings of the mafia ("is there a soup kill?"). But a town Creature who genuinely wanted to know would just check the OP; asking in thread serves no purpose except to try to get people to falsely read him as town. He is aware that he struggles to gain the trust of the town when he is mafia, and he is cheaply attempting to earn this towncred through derptells and "townslips".

Take note that he is trying to convince the game repeatedly that the mafia captain chose players rather than roles. If he is town, he has no reason to believe that the mafia captain chose players over roles. I, personally, have reason to believe that the mafia captain chose roles. I think nutella is much townier than her scum self would be, and as I have argued, a town nutella implies a town Alexa. I know I am town, and I do not think a mafia captain who picked players would pass over both me and Alexa. So this attempt to convince the town - with no evidence whatsoever - that the mafia captain picked players reeks of agenda-pushing to me.

Finally, I want to highlight this line: "Unless you want to argue that I'm 3p here? But would be better to seek for the seven mafia first." Nobody has accused him of being 3P. It comes completely out of the blue, and reads almost as though he is self-aware of his own scumminess and is trying to hang a lampshade of it. I don't think it's a line that would flow naturally from a townie's mouth.

Category 3: Flame Fanning

Spoiler: show

lol if nutella is salty alexa caught her n0

lol if the alexa/nutella w/w theory is right

early take is that Seanzie is probably wolfing imo

Thought I was the only one seeing it

LinearPoint has been accused of fanning the flames. I think Creature is even more guilty of this sin. In his ISO of 19 posts (at the time I wrote this case), Creature utters provocative lines, egging on the suspicions of townies towards each other, three separate times. They are quoted in the spoilers above. Note that he first eggs on the "Alexa has a red check on nutella" narrative, then switches to "Alexa and nutella are wolves together". These narratives are contradictory. Creature does not have an opinion of his own; he just encourages whatever happens to be the prevailing opinion or thread sentiment at the time. This is strongly opportunistic, and this opportunism is exemplified even further by his agreement with 112 that Seanzie is wolfing. How is Seanzie being wolfy? Why has he not brought up this scumread on Seanzie before, if he thought he was the only one seeing it? In fact, if he thinks Seanzie is a wolf and fooling everyone except him, why would he keep quiet about it until someone else brings it up, at which point he eagerly jumps on the bandwagon? Answer: because he is nakedly taking advantage of 112's suspicion to push Seanzie.

At no point does he contribute to the conversation. He does not add evidence to support any narrative. He does not refute the evidence or points that others have brought up. He does not, in fact, engage with the theories and accusations that have been thrown around the thread. He merely fuels the fire with provocative one-liners and moves on without explaining them.

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Please vote Creature.

jfc Alison you came to play. I take it you aren't the Gambit Demon this go around?

Creature is mafia.


Marmot had dropped a throwaway vote on his teammate who got some light pressure early

Then comes in and sees this case and is salty and then votes alison and dips

[nutella]

C4 shoot creature he did not actually become towny there is no actual town creature degree of natural flowing of thoughts in his posts and marmot spewed him wolf

[TonyStarkPrime]

Flipping coin to determine if nutella has good reads or not this game

[TonyStarkPrime]

God tbh I’ve never had access to the super nutella reading power

[TonyStarkPrime]

I’m just gonna read creature’s iso and decide for mysef

[nutella]

Flipping creature to determine if nutella has good reads or not this game

Ftfy

[NotAnAxehole]

I’m just gonna read creature’s iso and decide for mysef

You read?

[TonyStarkPrime]

I don’t have gun

[TonyStarkPrime]

I’m just gonna read creature’s iso and decide for mysef

You read?

Rarely

[nutella]

He had like two or three okay posts and the rest is empty and there's not enough of it

Yes creature fluff posts but he fluff posts *more*

[nutella]

And his response to pressure was terrible

[hollowkatt]

I'm horribad at reading nutella at all times, but I will say I believe that she believes what she's writing here.

[TonyStarkPrime]

My iso feature isn’t working

[nutella]

Also this is a secret read we can use later but I do think dya could have loyal hellbus vigged marmot for cred because he was always going down early anyway, they have been wolfy or null at best otherwise and tried to tell me creature got towny when he didn't

[nutella]

Actually dya creature maybe just not w/w idk I need Wisdom here

[nutella]

Def not clearing them for the shot though I need to see more play

[Sloonei]

I will say this once: I an semi-retired and in no position to play with the sort of energy people are used to from me.

On top of that, I had no power for 12 hours today and could not connect to the internet or do anything that involved electricity. This game was not even on my mind while this was happening. Prodding me is useless. I can give feedback if you have direct questions for me. But mostly I will just be hanging around and commenting on what I see/shitposting.

This post might come off as more irritated than it was meant to. I was just disappointed to have to break the jovial tone I've had in all my posts to this point. I'm here to fart around and maybe do some thing adjacent to catching mafiers.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Also this is a secret read we can use later but I do think dya could have loyal hellbus vigged marmot for cred because he was always going down early anyway, they have been wolfy or null at best otherwise and tried to tell me creature got towny when he didn't

LOYAL GODFATHER DAYVIG

[nutella]

Creature has more posts than I thought maybe I am full of shit actually

[TonyStarkPrime]

I think creature iso is not inspiring tbh but I don’t think it’s that bad and I would still lean town on base rates

[nutella]

Also this is a secret read we can use later but I do think dya could have loyal hellbus vigged marmot for cred because he was always going down early anyway, they have been wolfy or null at best otherwise and tried to tell me creature got towny when he didn't

LOYAL GODFATHER DAYVIG

Yeah exactly

[TonyStarkPrime]

Creature has more posts than I thought maybe I am full of shit actually

Yeah he’s top 5

[nutella]

Like it has the precedent to exist in the goc

[nutella]

[VOTE: dizzy] aubergine

Maybe

[TonyStarkPrime]

Also this is a secret read we can use later but I do think dya could have loyal hellbus vigged marmot for cred because he was always going down early anyway, they have been wolfy or null at best otherwise and tried to tell me creature got towny when he didn't

LOYAL GODFATHER DAYVIG

Yeah exactly

That was 2020 though and more realistically dya who literally cannot play this game long enough to go deep can’t be claiming those shots, right?

[nutella]

If dizzy is town he will eventually be Shiny and dazzle me with pure radiance of gayness so let's light the fire under him

[TonyStarkPrime]

Actually I’m sorta sold on argument “if dya’s the mafia attempt to get a deep wolf they’re already screwed”

[nutella]

Also this is a secret read we can use later but I do think dya could have loyal hellbus vigged marmot for cred because he was always going down early anyway, they have been wolfy or null at best otherwise and tried to tell me creature got towny when he didn't

LOYAL GODFATHER DAYVIG

Yeah exactly

That was 2020 though and more realistically dya who literally cannot play this game long enough to go deep can’t be claiming those shots, right?

Wasn't nook's role technically called that in 2021 even though town

[nutella]

But second point maybe something

Hey mafia you should kill dya n1 since they asked for it and they also shot ur boi

[TonyStarkPrime]

Oh right I forgot, hmm