Akemi Homura Mafia [Town Win]

[falcon45ca]

Which means that barring deep wolves, we have a PoE of MissC and Falcon and flipping these two should end the game.

Hmmmm



But we know that Wilgy was getting heat from D1 (even though you've tried to frame it differently), so a deepwolf would be the best way for the Maf to win.


You're trying to steer town away from a seepwolf conclusion.


[VOTE: CR] aubergine

[falcon45ca]

Uh .... what?

Why MightyQ out of everyone?

Dafuq was that kill? Gav, myself or Porscha would have been obvious choices.

I had MightyQ as town from the derp clear, yet I'm shocked that they were the night kill.
I'm a little worried there's a deep wolf as I should have died, Gav should have died, Porscha should have died.

Little bit of pageantry re: MightyQ NK, and what have we here?

He's worried about a deepwolf.

[falcon45ca]

Which means that barring deep wolves, we have a PoE of MissC and Falcon and flipping these two should end the game.

Here tho he's not concerned overly w/ a deepwolf and wants 2 flips outside of deepwolf territory.

[Gavial]

Your wolf aren’t you Falcon?

It doesn't matter what I say to you. You've been tunneling me since D1

That untrue, there is stuff you can and could have said to prove yourself if your town.
I think it’s best for me now to look at actions from you.


I’m trying not to tunnel for today because I’m nice.

[Gavial]

Hey Falcon.
Wanna do something?
Just vote Miss Caro.
Trust me.

Could be scum, I got a way to figure out everyone remaining’s alignments.

[Gavial]

If your wolf I’ll know.

If your actually town, I’ll know.

[falcon45ca]

Your wolf aren’t you Falcon?

It doesn't matter what I say to you. You've been tunneling me since D1

That untrue, there is stuff you can and could have said to prove yourself if your town.
I think it’s best for me now to look at actions from you.


I’m trying not to tunnel for today because I’m nice.

OK, fair enough.

[Gavial]

Trust me Falcon it is best that one of you or Miss Caro go over today they are not wrong.

@Porscha
Will make sure to really Evaluate CRichard if I die tonight.
You can promise this right Porscha?

[falcon45ca]

If your wolf I’ll know.

If your actually town, I’ll know.

I mean, so far your read on Pao was accurate, but you've had lots of reads not turn out true.


Try to remember that. Cuz you've been wrong about my slot the whole game.

[Gavial]

If your wolf I’ll know.

If your actually town, I’ll know.

I mean, so far your read on Pao was accurate, but you've had lots of reads not turn out true.


Try to remember that. Cuz you've been wrong about my slot the whole game.

I’m aware.
I have an absolutely horrific day 1 as I pointed out before.

So I tried to make up for it during the next serval days in which I did.

[falcon45ca]

Hey Falcon.
Wanna do something?
Just vote Miss Caro.
Trust me.

Could be scum, I got a way to figure out everyone remaining’s alignments.

I've clearly outlined my own reasons for why MissC could be Maf, it has nothing to do with trusting you

[Gavial]

I’ve almost fully solved this game Falcon.

If your town you gotta trust me.

[Gavial]

Hey Falcon.
Wanna do something?
Just vote Miss Caro.
Trust me.

Could be scum, I got a way to figure out everyone remaining’s alignments.

I've clearly outlined my own reasons for why MissC could be Maf, it has nothing to do with trusting you

K fine don’t trust me
But I know what I’m doing.

[falcon45ca]

I’ve almost fully solved this game Falcon.

If your town you gotta trust me.

Quit flipping the script. You hedged, hard, that Wilgy was a ML.


That was not your solve. Stop trying to take credit

[Gavial]

I’ve almost fully solved this game Falcon.

If your town you gotta trust me.

Quit flipping the script. You hedged, hard, that Wilgy was a ML.


That was not your solve. Stop trying to take credit

Maybe not but I’ll take credit for calling most of the reasoning shit because it was.
I voted for the actual reasoning which is solving Day 1 basically.

[falcon45ca]

i don’t really want to vote wilgy today. he makes a lot of posts that line up with my thinking, which, i could just be reading the game poorly. but he’s not near my top wolf for today and killing him if town hurts us a lot. pao or porscha are basically my only two choices right now. gav is tough because i don’t really feel good committing to keeping him alive the whole game and i don’t think he ever gets nk’d. i don’t think his posting is helpful for threadstate.

tldr i feel fine with my current vote

This post still sticks out to me.



After Wilgy flips, MissC really steps up her game.

[falcon45ca]

If my solve is correct, then there is at least one wolf in Paopan, Porscha, Sig and MightyQ.
If the above PoE doesn't end the game, then depending on who lives night after night should be reevaluated especially if their name is (Looks up notes) Mac, mayyyyyybe Gav.

Hmmmmm.



Is Wilgy clapping sarcastically, as everyone but Pors has been flipped Town? Might be a good look for CR

[falcon45ca]

I don’t understand how you can read someone who’s posting in emoji’s other then their actions.

And btw their actions are more Townie then wolfy.

It’d be nice though if they could drop with the emoji’s because they should know at this point that their little gimmick isn’t helping them or us that much.
@DrWilgy
Can I ask what your initial plan was and why you decided to do this gimmick and what your thoughts are regarding what has transpired so far especially with other’s opinions regarding your gimmick.

Just looking for reactions.
You Bad
Mac Bad
Porsche Good
CR Good

Not much else related to the gimmick.

Alrighty, caught up.

Sig vote at last second was absolutely disgusting and Gav has been TMI'ing me for the past 9 pages.

Mac's read is bad but I'm not sure if it's coming from a wolf mindset.

Town:
MC
LC
Falcon

PoE:
Porscha
Pao
MightyQ
Gav/Mac

Weird movement of Pors on Wilgy's list....



And CR is good in one list, and absent from the other?

[falcon45ca]

Alright caught up.

Have some beef with my wagon as Mac and Falcon are town. Mac is still reading me poorly, and it's becoming silly.

Odd that I saw CR advise that I wasn't hunting in spite of not interacting with what content I was able to provide, but I don't think I should go barking up that tree with Gav still around.

Hmmm

[falcon45ca]

At this point in my catchup, everyone seems to be giving Gav this 'misguided town' thing. I don't get it.

Gav should have had no reason to TR me early like he did and the Sig wagon was dumb. I'd like to resolve Wagon à la Sig, via Pao or Gav today. While I don't think it's Pao, it's better than Porsche or I.

So despite numerous times Wilgy calling Pao out, he hedges the slot here. We know Pao was Town now

[falcon45ca]

Paopan is mafia

The other one is probably between Wilgy and Gavial

But it can be Crichard.

This is the solve.

Good on Pao/Gav.

Maybe Pao/MightyQ?

Other option is Gav/MightyQ,
or you/Crichard,
or you/MightyQ.

Honestly, where is MightyQ in your world here?

[falcon45ca]

MissC gets the least amount of attention from Wilgy out of everybody, tho I'd like for others to go thru Wilgy's ISO as well

[falcon45ca]

i don’t really want to vote wilgy today. he makes a lot of posts that line up with my thinking, which, i could just be reading the game poorly. but he’s not near my top wolf for today and killing him if town hurts us a lot. pao or porscha are basically my only two choices right now. gav is tough because i don’t really feel good committing to keeping him alive the whole game and i don’t think he ever gets nk’d. i don’t think his posting is helpful for threadstate.

tldr i feel fine with my current vote

Odd.




Why would the loss of Dr Wilgy, if town, hurt a lot? By his own admission he's not been very engaged this game

i find that he says a lot of things that line up well with my thinking so i would like to keep him around if town

Can you be more specific? Do you have 3 examples of insights Wilgy has had that line up w/ your thinking?

i can but i’m on mobile so it’ll have to wait

Are you able to give us those 3 examples of Wilgy insights that lined up w/ your thinking?

had similar progression on CR as me, quoted same set of porscha posts that made me scumread them, wanted pao dead.

poe was pao/gav/porscha/MQ all of whom i wouldn't have really shed a tear at dying yesterday.

I will be going thru Wilgy's ISO in search of this content

[Gavial]

NGL I am likely Falcon’s progression here.

[Gavial]

Liking*

[falcon45ca]

I don’t understand how you can read someone who’s posting in emoji’s other then their actions.

And btw their actions are more Townie then wolfy.

It’d be nice though if they could drop with the emoji’s because they should know at this point that their little gimmick isn’t helping them or us that much.
@DrWilgy
Can I ask what your initial plan was and why you decided to do this gimmick and what your thoughts are regarding what has transpired so far especially with other’s opinions regarding your gimmick.

Just looking for reactions.
You Bad
Mac Bad
Porsche Good
CR Good

Not much else related to the gimmick.

Alrighty, caught up.

Sig vote at last second was absolutely disgusting and Gav has been TMI'ing me for the past 9 pages.

Mac's read is bad but I'm not sure if it's coming from a wolf mindset.

Town:
MC
LC
Falcon

PoE:
Porscha
Pao
MightyQ
Gav/Mac

Weird movement of Pors on Wilgy's list....



And CR is good in one list, and absent from the other?

Those 2 posts from Wilgy are 20 mins apart. MissC cites Wilgy's read/quotes on Pors as part of their reticence on Wilgy.

[falcon45ca]

it seems like I'm one of the few people who are unfamiliar with playing with a lot of you so I won't ever have background experience to back up any position I take. just an fyi. I read through everything and while being aggro to create pressure (especially this early with no total confirmation / deaths), I am having negative gut feelings towards falcon. maybe they just aggro tho.

I'd say that Falcon being slightly more firm in feel to be a town sign for him.

As far as I can tell, this is the only post of Pors that Wilgy quotes prior to MissC's #857, where MissC laments that losing Wilgy will hurt town alot.


#857 occurs Friday at 1:51 PM. MissC says Wilgy's thoughts align w/ hers at #861, Friday at 2:28 PM.



When I ask her why, MissC states that Wilgy's "quoted same set of porscha posts that made me scumread them"




But Wilgy hadn't quoted anything of Pors except that 1 post of Pors at that time

[falcon45ca]

Trying to wrap my head around @Porscha at 630-633.

I've read it like 3 times.

Are we just saying that Mac is town here?

>if it those posts are the walls of text, I literally said I townread mac on his posts towards gav. not sure why my posts seem so unreadable to multiple people here??????

Porsha feels super washy.

>again, please read my posts where someone else already accused me of this, and I addressed it. if you would like to ask me a specific question regarding my responses, please do that!!!

Slow your roll my friend, I was catching up and responding as I went.

@Porscha so I've seen you express sus of Pao and I? Do you think we are teamed? If not, who is Pao's teammate, who is mine?

i don’t really want to vote wilgy today. he makes a lot of posts that line up with my thinking, which, i could just be reading the game poorly. but he’s not near my top wolf for today and killing him if town hurts us a lot. pao or porscha are basically my only two choices right now. gav is tough because i don’t really feel good committing to keeping him alive the whole game and i don’t think he ever gets nk’d. i don’t think his posting is helpful for threadstate.

tldr i feel fine with my current vote

Odd.




Why would the loss of Dr Wilgy, if town, hurt a lot? By his own admission he's not been very engaged this game

I did already note that anybody voted off who flips town is bad in my other post, but agree with this sentiment. If i'm being scumleaned b/c I'm not super active or HARD READING SOMEONE INTO OBLIVION (read: being washy, despite listing who I am leaning towards scum...) -- then what does me flipping provide for info? if I get voted off MC, you're going to stop being hard townread by everybody here. pao will be even more sussed, as I have been pushing them all game as a scum read. Crichard would also look more scumread as well - but I'm not sure if even knows why he is voting me b/c he obviously didnt read my posts (neither did pao).
others have said maf wouldn't be voting together day 1, but what's the chance of it day 2? I'm not sure both of their uneducated votes on me mean they are trying to change the vote focus towards me b/c I'm putting pao as my #2 scumread (behind wilgy, who has been a little more towny but i'm still not sold) - and others have already offered me up as a potential scumread (more so than mightyq, who I understand was a little behind in gameplay, but has posted much less in comparison to me - so not sure why I'm being scumread more than him) - plus pao (#2 scumread) listed my potential partners as wilgy which I pointed out is extremely unlikely as they are my #1 scumread, so I know he isn't reading my posts either.
MC, just don't get why you'd put your vote over me than wilgy other than wilgy's vague mostly non-opinionated posts seem to ring the same song of your heart

Alright, so you think Pao and I are teamed, but further I have opinions on this one. Oh pray tell where I have not been opinionated? I believe I've been very clear on who I think is wolf and why. Also what is the purpose of comparing yourself to mightyQ here? I believe you to have pretty decent scum equity with Gavi. MightyQ does not. Where does content play into that?

Also doesn't really reach me when I feel that quite abit of your posting is "there's no way I'm on a team with X" or "well X who is suspicious of me just isn't reading."

i don’t really want to vote wilgy today. he makes a lot of posts that line up with my thinking, which, i could just be reading the game poorly. but he’s not near my top wolf for today and killing him if town hurts us a lot. pao or porscha are basically my only two choices right now. gav is tough because i don’t really feel good committing to keeping him alive the whole game and i don’t think he ever gets nk’d. i don’t think his posting is helpful for threadstate.

tldr i feel fine with my current vote

Odd.




Why would the loss of Dr Wilgy, if town, hurt a lot? By his own admission he's not been very engaged this game

I did already note that anybody voted off who flips town is bad in my other post, but agree with this sentiment. If i'm being scumleaned b/c I'm not super active or HARD READING SOMEONE INTO OBLIVION (read: being washy, despite listing who I am leaning towards scum...) -- then what does me flipping provide for info? if I get voted off MC, you're going to stop being hard townread by everybody here. pao will be even more sussed, as I have been pushing them all game as a scum read. Crichard would also look more scumread as well - but I'm not sure if even knows why he is voting me b/c he obviously didnt read my posts (neither did pao).
others have said maf wouldn't be voting together day 1, but what's the chance of it day 2? I'm not sure both of their uneducated votes on me mean they are trying to change the vote focus towards me b/c I'm putting pao as my #2 scumread (behind wilgy, who has been a little more towny but i'm still not sold) - and others have already offered me up as a potential scumread (more so than mightyq, who I understand was a little behind in gameplay, but has posted much less in comparison to me - so not sure why I'm being scumread more than him) - plus pao (#2 scumread) listed my potential partners as wilgy which I pointed out is extremely unlikely as they are my #1 scumread, so I know he isn't reading my posts either.
MC, just don't get why you'd put your vote over me than wilgy other than wilgy's vague mostly non-opinionated posts seem to ring the same song of your heart

Alright, so you think Pao and I are teamed, but further I have opinions on this one. Oh pray tell where I have not been opinionated? I believe I've been very clear on who I think is wolf and why. Also what is the purpose of comparing yourself to mightyQ here? I believe you to have pretty decent scum equity with Gavi. MightyQ does not. Where does content play into that?

Also doesn't really reach me when I feel that quite abit of your posting is "there's no way I'm on a team with X" or "well X who is suspicious of me just isn't reading."

FURTHER! because my brain isn't stopping, where you acknowledged that people seem to be having trouble with your wall posts... Like here:

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:24 am
Trying to wrap my head around @Porscha at 630-633.

I've read it like 3 times.

Are we just saying that Mac is town here?

>if it those posts are the walls of text, I literally said I townread mac on his posts towards gav. not sure why my posts seem so unreadable to multiple people here??????

Where is the questioning of lack of understanding VS not reading? I feel like that should have been explored from a town mindset. One is shading the other would be attempt to build a clear and concise message for us to establish how to read you.

And if I missed this in my confusion, please point it out to me.

All of this occurs AFTER MissC claims that Wilgy's Pors quotes lined up w/ her scumread.



MissC is the last wolf. Her timeline doesn't match up whatsoever

[falcon45ca]

@Gavial @Porscha @CRichard I'd like you 3 to go over what I've posted and see what you think

[Gavial]

Hmm Tbh I honestly like your expression today.
Idk rather it’s because your town being motivated here or wolf going for full power play.

But you do make a good case on Miss Caro.
Wilgy’s lack of mention and Miss Caro trying to save Wilgy but not really is a reason I agree with.

I really do still think your wolf but whatever.
As I said before if I die tonight, hopefully you die next day.

[Gavial]

I’ll vote Miss Caro as I want to give Falcon a chance if they actually are town here.

[Gavial]

Plus I don’t wanna be blamed post game that I tunnelled town twice. (You know Mac be ready.)

[Miss Carousel]

hewwo

[Miss Carousel]

why did MightyQ die lol

[Miss Carousel]

I liked that falcon went out of their way to post their own ISO's from their past 3 games where they were maf. they offered up that info. as far as I've seen, nobody has commented on that information at all. but compared to miss c who has been posting a lot less, and their last ones weren't really a contribution to the game, falcon comes off as more town to me now

i literally made over 100 posts d2

i just don't care about posting during the night phase

[Miss Carousel]

BTW I was the counter wagon to Wilgy, so unless you think it was w/w wagons D1 then I'm cleared from being Wilgy's partner.

why can't there be w/w wagons d1

[CRichard]

BTW I was the counter wagon to Wilgy, so unless you think it was w/w wagons D1 then I'm cleared from being Wilgy's partner.

why can't there be w/w wagons d1

Impossible fypov? No
LIkely? No.

[Miss Carousel]

Which means that barring deep wolves, we have a PoE of MissC and Falcon and flipping these two should end the game.

flipping any two people will end the game we have two kills left lol

[CRichard]

@Gavial @Porscha @CRichard I'd like you 3 to go over what I've posted and see what you think

Ok I'll go through it once I'm not occupied by real life too much.

[Miss Carousel]

BTW I was the counter wagon to Wilgy, so unless you think it was w/w wagons D1 then I'm cleared from being Wilgy's partner.

why can't there be w/w wagons d1

Impossible fypov? No
LIkely? No.

why isn't it likely? there were 3 wagons. did you vote for wilgy d1? idr who his d1 voters were

[CRichard]

BTW I was the counter wagon to Wilgy, so unless you think it was w/w wagons D1 then I'm cleared from being Wilgy's partner.

why can't there be w/w wagons d1

Impossible fypov? No
LIkely? No.

why isn't it likely? there were 3 wagons. did you vote for wilgy d1? idr who his d1 voters were

Mac and I were voting on Wilgy at EoD1.
I definitely don't remember seeing your vote on Wilgy at any point before they flipped.

[Miss Carousel]

BTW I was the counter wagon to Wilgy, so unless you think it was w/w wagons D1 then I'm cleared from being Wilgy's partner.

why can't there be w/w wagons d1

Impossible fypov? No
LIkely? No.

why isn't it likely? there were 3 wagons. did you vote for wilgy d1? idr who his d1 voters were

Mac and I were voting on Wilgy at EoD1.
I definitely don't remember seeing your vote on Wilgy at any point before they flipped.

i didn't vote wilgy. is that what we're talking about?

[CRichard]

BTW I was the counter wagon to Wilgy, so unless you think it was w/w wagons D1 then I'm cleared from being Wilgy's partner.

why can't there be w/w wagons d1

Impossible fypov? No
LIkely? No.

why isn't it likely? there were 3 wagons. did you vote for wilgy d1? idr who his d1 voters were

Mac and I were voting on Wilgy at EoD1.
I definitely don't remember seeing your vote on Wilgy at any point before they flipped.

i didn't vote wilgy. is that what we're talking about?

See? At least we agree that you didn't vote on Wilgy.

[Miss Carousel]

BTW I was the counter wagon to Wilgy, so unless you think it was w/w wagons D1 then I'm cleared from being Wilgy's partner.

why can't there be w/w wagons d1

Impossible fypov? No
LIkely? No.

why isn't it likely? there were 3 wagons. did you vote for wilgy d1? idr who his d1 voters were

Mac and I were voting on Wilgy at EoD1.
I definitely don't remember seeing your vote on Wilgy at any point before they flipped.

i didn't vote wilgy. is that what we're talking about?

See? At least we agree that you didn't vote on Wilgy.

?

ok

[Miss Carousel]

i asked if you voted for wilgy d1 because i was thinking about the composition of the wagons lol. not like "oh yeah well did you vote for wilgy??? huh????"

[Miss Carousel]

i probably die today because i really dunno if i have the energy to read a ton rn

falcon should be my default today but i don't know why falcon ever makes that night kill and then settles on pushing me today. it seems nutty.

[CRichard]

i asked if you voted for wilgy d1 because i was thinking about the composition of the wagons lol. not like "oh yeah well did you vote for wilgy??? huh????"

If you were asking if I voted for DrWilgy, then the answer is yes.
I don't think that needs to be more complicated than it is.

[CRichard]

At this point in my catchup, everyone seems to be giving Gav this 'misguided town' thing. I don't get it.

Gav should have had no reason to TR me early like he did and the Sig wagon was dumb. I'd like to resolve Wagon à la Sig, via Pao or Gav today. While I don't think it's Pao, it's better than Porsche or I.

So despite numerous times Wilgy calling Pao out, he hedges the slot here. We know Pao was Town now

Hmm that's a good point. That should have been a warning sign that Pao was town.

[CRichard]

Ngl Falcon might be town after all and I'm inclined to trust Mac's legacy that included them as town before death.

[CRichard]

Geez I wouldn't mind talking to someone here.