Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

[cassandra]

Can people look over these MR posts with me? I think this is a wolf.

Mac's story doesn't feel like a lie? When mafia lie about mechanics they tend to either keep it simple ('I'm a cop') or overly complex ('I'm a cop on Nights that fall within the fibonacci sequence but I only get a result if its a 3P who has activated their ability and I get a double cop on N1'). Mac's story is specific in a different way ('after 26 hours I got fed up and used it') that is unlikely to be fabricated.

Or it is just a clever lie I guess, which is also a possibility because uh we're starting to reach peak 'confirmed town' in a game that's supposedly not bastard, so I can only imagine the power Mafia have here.

This is MR's response to Mac/falcon's claim. He immediately followed it up with a vote for Anne.

[VOTE: Anne] aubergine

How is Anne better than NAA? In what ways is Anne scummy to you?

Dunno but I'm sure I'll think of reasons eventually.

I don't like any of the current wagons. I didn't intend to sit on my vanity wagon but I may just do it anyway.

This is a lazy read for someone who has been putting forth some effort. 42 posts thus far. The timing of it with Mac's claim, the lack of reasoning behind it (even up to this point), and given that he's interacted with several other players since, I'm surprised his vote is still here.

@cassandra

those are standard V!MR posts IMO. i was wrongly sus of him last game for a similar way he approached Cape and ended up death tunneling him wrongly.

[staypositivefriend]

not to take credit, but didn't the MR wagon start because of my read on him? maybe i missed something in the last few pages

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Vlte sloonei

Not the biggest fan of Sloonei's contributions and he has partner equity with MR but should we really vote an inactive? That is never a good idea D1

Woops, you have different ideas about playing mafia, now I gotta kill you. Sorry bud, those are the rules

Don't be a smart ass, answer my questions

Why would you think a vote on an inactive is optimal for today?

I think they're a bit above rand mafia, partly because I have some confident town reads, partly because I thibk a busy town sloon at least tries to put one or two reads out

So I wanna kill them

[staypositivefriend]

oh i see the case now nvm

[Marmot]

Okay yeah I didn’t see marmots case tbh but idk man I just don’t like voting people who aren’t around to defend themselves

Fwiw, it's like almost 1AM MR's time, so he'll never be around to defend himself.

[ilario]

Though it’s not so much that I wanna kill a particular person it’s moreso that I don’t like Anne being a top wagon, people had the whole day to push or engage her and instead the votes pile up randomly at eod when she’s not around to defend herself

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Can I get a brief summary of the main wagons so that I can attempt to weigh in on stuff?

This post in particular is pretty bad given the context of the rest of his iso

[leetic]

MR is my first choice, followed by Wilgy and Axehole in that order. Wouldn't vote Jay, nutella or Sloonei but I have my eye on them

[iaafr]

Though it’s not so much that I wanna kill a particular person it’s moreso that I don’t like Anne being a top wagon, people had the whole day to push or engage her and instead the votes pile up randomly at eod when she’s not around to defend herself

tbf she disappeared around mid day and never came back and like... well... not much the people sussing her can do about that

[cassandra]

JJJ is probably a wolf, tbh.

[Marmot]

not to take credit, but didn't the MR wagon start because of my read on him? maybe i missed something in the last few pages

Someone told me to go look at his iso, and I think it was leetic.

But sure, have some credit, especially if it's wrong.

[staypositivefriend]

Can I get a brief summary of the main wagons so that I can attempt to weigh in on stuff?

This post in particular is pretty bad given the context of the rest of his iso

why's that?

[iaafr]

dude i suddenly randomly sus ilario/leetic because ilario's rage at the mr wagon almost feels like TMI on MR?

[leetic]

Vlte sloonei

Not the biggest fan of Sloonei's contributions and he has partner equity with MR but should we really vote an inactive? That is never a good idea D1

Woops, you have different ideas about playing mafia, now I gotta kill you. Sorry bud, those are the rules

Don't be a smart ass, answer my questions

Why would you think a vote on an inactive is optimal for today?

I think they're a bit above rand mafia, partly because I have some confident town reads, partly because I thibk a busy town sloon at least tries to put one or two reads out

So I wanna kill them

I think he has some scummy interactions with MR, what do you think of that slot?

[iaafr]

dude i suddenly randomly sus ilario/leetic because ilario's rage at the mr wagon almost feels like TMI on MR?

theyre so frickin tryhard rn if w though lmao

its probably just astupid tinfoil but lmao

[cassandra]

dude i suddenly randomly sus ilario/leetic because ilario's rage at the mr wagon almost feels like TMI on MR?

if it was TMI he'd be different about it - less angry.

[ilario]

Wtf how is MR a wagon too? Bro what is this town

i kinda get you but at the same time i dont really get you

mr has posted some wolfy stuff and mainly it was his entrance + random theory arguments + attitude that felt villagery

youre struggling with forming wolfreads too so idk how you act like youre better

Yes I’m struggling too but I’m not voting people who projected actual towniness. Yes it’s true he only had 2 towny posts buts that’s still 2 more towny posts than a lot of people

can you list your pool of never-towntold-in-your-eyes players? im sure its in your iso but navigating on this sites kind of annoying

I think the amount of genuine towntells this game has been super low and scarce which is why my tr list changes a lot

I think alexa is the only person who has been consistently towny followed by maybe marmot

Anne towntold on pg 6, mr towntold in first post and the post I tagged, Nutella got towny this eod, and you were kinda towny at the start but not as towny as you normally are

[Marmot]

Though it’s not so much that I wanna kill a particular person it’s moreso that I don’t like Anne being a top wagon, people had the whole day to push or engage her and instead the votes pile up randomly at eod when she’s not around to defend herself

Another concern I have with the Anne wagon is that it was prompted by MR. He seemed to pick a name out of a hat, and yeah sometimes town just stumbles into a wolf chop, but it isn't often.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Can I get a brief summary of the main wagons so that I can attempt to weigh in on stuff?

This post in particular is pretty bad given the context of the rest of his iso

why's that?

Asking for summaries so he can attempt to weigh in on stuff and never following up on it is kind of scummy, especially given that he did post more after this and it was all a fat nothingburger


Like it's not a slam dunk case obviously but it is above rand scummy

[leetic]

dude i suddenly randomly sus ilario/leetic because ilario's rage at the mr wagon almost feels like TMI on MR?

He didn't show up until an hour ago so he missed the main development. I had to get his attention so he could defend Anne, as he was apparently unaware she had votes before that time

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Vlte sloonei

Not the biggest fan of Sloonei's contributions and he has partner equity with MR but should we really vote an inactive? That is never a good idea D1

Woops, you have different ideas about playing mafia, now I gotta kill you. Sorry bud, those are the rules

Don't be a smart ass, answer my questions

Why would you think a vote on an inactive is optimal for today?

I think they're a bit above rand mafia, partly because I have some confident town reads, partly because I thibk a busy town sloon at least tries to put one or two reads out

So I wanna kill them

I think he has some scummy interactions with MR, what do you think of that slot?

I'm a notably horrific radishes reader

[cassandra]

i don't feel like JJJ actually cares about his read on anne, looking at his iso

tbh idk if he cares about his read on anyone

[iaafr]

[VOTE: anne] aubergine

resolving this is actually way more important for my worldview than resolving wilgy, i think...

but ugh feels bad if wrong because i wouldve been correctly townreading her

[staypositivefriend]

@NotAnAxehole - who are the mafia?

[ilario]

Though it’s not so much that I wanna kill a particular person it’s moreso that I don’t like Anne being a top wagon, people had the whole day to push or engage her and instead the votes pile up randomly at eod when she’s not around to defend herself

tbf she disappeared around mid day and never came back and like... well... not much the people sussing her can do about that

Yes but if they had problems with her posts they shoulda said it when she was around imo, the voting this close to eod feels opportunistic

[iaafr]

[VOTE: jaggedjimmyjay] aubergine

[Marmot]

[VOTE: anne] aubergine

resolving this is actually way more important for my worldview than resolving wilgy, i think...

but ugh feels bad if wrong because i wouldve been correctly townreading her

Take that nutella!!!

[Lime Coke]

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

[Marmot]

[VOTE: jaggedjimmyjay] aubergine

Take that iaafr!!!

[leetic]

Vlte sloonei

Not the biggest fan of Sloonei's contributions and he has partner equity with MR but should we really vote an inactive? That is never a good idea D1

Woops, you have different ideas about playing mafia, now I gotta kill you. Sorry bud, those are the rules

Don't be a smart ass, answer my questions

Why would you think a vote on an inactive is optimal for today?

I think they're a bit above rand mafia, partly because I have some confident town reads, partly because I thibk a busy town sloon at least tries to put one or two reads out

So I wanna kill them

I think he has some scummy interactions with MR, what do you think of that slot?

I'm a notably horrific radishes reader

I do find it odd that when Sloonei was trying to catch up, he was talking with Radishes rather than a more active player. It almost felt like a planned entrance to me

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

"I'm a vig" and dip is pretty scummy too tbh

[cassandra]

i agree with ilario fwiw.

[ilario]

Wilgy is supposedly a vig but is doing literally nothing to try and solve people rn

[iaafr]

theres something in my gut that says annes the correct vote deep down and prob jay doesnt take off

idk

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Not the biggest fan of Sloonei's contributions and he has partner equity with MR but should we really vote an inactive? That is never a good idea D1

Woops, you have different ideas about playing mafia, now I gotta kill you. Sorry bud, those are the rules

Don't be a smart ass, answer my questions

Why would you think a vote on an inactive is optimal for today?

I think they're a bit above rand mafia, partly because I have some confident town reads, partly because I thibk a busy town sloon at least tries to put one or two reads out

So I wanna kill them

I think he has some scummy interactions with MR, what do you think of that slot?

I'm a notably horrific radishes reader

I do find it odd that when Sloonei was trying to catch up, he was talking with Radishes rather than a more active player. It almost felt like a planned entrance to me

Ok, sure

[ilario]

"I'm a vig" and dip is pretty scummy too tbh

YEA

[leetic]

Switching to Wilgy as I prefer that wagon over Anne's

[cassandra]

Though it’s not so much that I wanna kill a particular person it’s moreso that I don’t like Anne being a top wagon, people had the whole day to push or engage her and instead the votes pile up randomly at eod when she’s not around to defend herself

tbf she disappeared around mid day and never came back and like... well... not much the people sussing her can do about that

Yes but if they had problems with her posts they shoulda said it when she was around imo, the voting this close to eod feels opportunistic

yeah i feel this
i think me and SPF were the only one presenting problems when she was actually here

she could be a wolf but this EOD wagon feelsbadman.

[staypositivefriend]

the wilgy wagon looks pretty pure, even tho im not sure if that means much in a game like this

[iaafr]

actually maybe i vote wilgy after all

i will reward ilarios passion

[Lime Coke]

theres something in my gut that says annes the correct vote deep down and prob jay doesnt take off

idk

Jay does feel like mafia but we can't get enough votes on him...

There's probably a good reason for that...

[ilario]

Tbh I would be content with a wagon back on naa again if anyone wants to go there

[iaafr]

[VOTE: drwilgy] aubergine

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

If I finish in the top 4 posters today when I talk about this hame in the following months im gonna say I was top poster d1 in this playerlist

[leetic]

If scum has a roleblocker, Wilgy's useless either way, but that's not guaranteed in this setup. Still, even a town blocker would have good reason to block Wilgy at this point.

[staypositivefriend]

Tbh I would be content with a wagon back on naa again if anyone wants to go there

i could prolly be talked into a NAA wagon because his posts at this EOD are weird

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I am down to clown when it comes to flash wagonking jay

[staypositivefriend]

most likely gonna end up on wilgy though

[nutella]

Just flip anne lmao

[Marmot]

I'm struggling to vote for Wilgy given his claim and that he's not someone that can be arsked to do what you want

I'd rather vote for Anne.