Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

[leetic]

JJJ. who do you scumread tbh?

Active suspicion is limited. I don’t trust Nanook. I am vacant of cause to town read Anne, MR, Sloonei, Wilgy

Yeah, if town goes down this phase you will be high on my suspect list. Why is your biggest suspicion just not trusting someone? That barely even says anything alignment indicative

[Lime Coke]

[VOTE: NAA] aubergine

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Nanook, give me a wilgy post # to look at, based on it and it alone, I will judge your alignment. Don't worry, I won't tell.

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[NotAnAxehole]

Is naa readable as "if he doesn't make me want to tear my hair out he's mafia" lol

Generally not, but it's highly dependent on the day. Right now I'm in survival mode which means I am trying to limit hostile interactions, and generally appear to be productive.

Well, you're not doing particularly well at surviving right now. I want your thoughts on each player in the game, which will be useful now matter how you flip.

I understand based on how JJJ described you, that you jump in to ask things like this all the time, so I don't fault you for it. Now don't fault me for ignoring it because that's just how I play.

[VOTE: NotAnAxehole] aubergine

That is the most suck-up response you could have provided.

I mean, you're sticking your head in the sand, ignoring all of the town reads coming my way from people around you just so that you can develop a read in your own way of reading the game. The issue with that is, typically people who read the game the way you seem to have a disproportionate tendency to scum read me.

[Marmot]

@JaggedJimmyJay how do you like to navigate turbulence in treacherous waters?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

If the water's getting too choppy, just hop off your boat and ride the shark instead

[leetic]

Is naa readable as "if he doesn't make me want to tear my hair out he's mafia" lol

Generally not, but it's highly dependent on the day. Right now I'm in survival mode which means I am trying to limit hostile interactions, and generally appear to be productive.

Well, you're not doing particularly well at surviving right now. I want your thoughts on each player in the game, which will be useful now matter how you flip.

I understand based on how JJJ described you, that you jump in to ask things like this all the time, so I don't fault you for it. Now don't fault me for ignoring it because that's just how I play.

[VOTE: NotAnAxehole] aubergine

That is the most suck-up response you could have provided.

I mean, you're sticking your head in the sand, ignoring all of the town reads coming my way from people around you just so that you can develop a read in your own way of reading the game. The issue with that is, typically people who read the game the way you seem to have a disproportionate tendency to scum read me.

You're not sticking out your head at all. Why should I trust you when you seemingly have no desire to contribute?

[cassandra]

reasons anne is town:
-has a similar POE to me/doesn't have a ton of overly performative comments
-lacks usual maf aggressiveness

reasons anne is maf:
-demanding jay to townread her at start felt bad
-didn't do her secret towntell i have for her (i don't think, double checking)
-attitude stuff was offputting in its timing

eh, probably 50/50 on my end for her.

[NotAnAxehole]

Nanook, give me a wilgy post # to look at, based on it and it alone, I will judge your alignment. Don't worry, I won't tell.

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Fuck, you may have a point... And I was looking to cast you out as we would any malformed piece of chocolate.

[leetic]

Nanook, give me a wilgy post # to look at, based on it and it alone, I will judge your alignment. Don't worry, I won't tell.

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What do you think about Wilgy townreading iaafr first thing in the game?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Nanook, give me a wilgy post # to look at, based on it and it alone, I will judge your alignment. Don't worry, I won't tell.

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Fuck, you may have a point... And I was looking to cast you out as we would any malformed piece of chocolate.

I'm a perfectly shaped rectangle of baker's chocolate

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Nanook, give me a wilgy post # to look at, based on it and it alone, I will judge your alignment. Don't worry, I won't tell.

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What do you think about Wilgy townreading iaafr first thing in the game?

I don't care

[Marmot]

reasons anne is town:
-has a similar POE to me/doesn't have a ton of overly performative comments
-lacks usual maf aggressiveness

reasons anne is maf:
-demanding jay to townread her at start felt bad
-didn't do her secret towntell i have for her (i don't think, double checking)
-attitude stuff was offputting in its timing

eh, probably 50/50 on my end for her.

I actually thought she did have a ton of performative comments. Looking through her iso, she spent like 10-20 posts in a row talking about how townie she was.

[cassandra]

@anne can you talk to me about why you expected to be in JJJ's initial townreads. what about your opening exactly was "out of your scum range?" a lot of why that pinged me if we've have a conversation before about how similar your ranges can be at times and not a lot of things are our of our scum ranges and that your main towntell if just post-timing so i'm confused by that.

[leetic]

People who refuse to engage with people are always a good idea to get out of the way early. I don't want to be stuck at LyLo with any of them

[cassandra]

reasons anne is town:
-has a similar POE to me/doesn't have a ton of overly performative comments
-lacks usual maf aggressiveness

reasons anne is maf:
-demanding jay to townread her at start felt bad
-didn't do her secret towntell i have for her (i don't think, double checking)
-attitude stuff was offputting in its timing

eh, probably 50/50 on my end for her.

I actually thought she did have a ton of performative comments. Looking through her iso, she spent like 10-20 posts in a row talking about how townie she was.

aight i'm looking at it now because that feels like better use of my time than trying to catch up lol

[cassandra]

yeah the "you should be townreading me" start of game was defs a feelsbadman from her

[Marmot]

People who refuse to engage with people are always a good idea to get out of the way early. I don't want to be stuck at LyLo with any of them

I feel like you're talking about a very specific someone =D

[leetic]

reasons anne is town:
-has a similar POE to me/doesn't have a ton of overly performative comments
-lacks usual maf aggressiveness

reasons anne is maf:
-demanding jay to townread her at start felt bad
-didn't do her secret towntell i have for her (i don't think, double checking)
-attitude stuff was offputting in its timing

eh, probably 50/50 on my end for her.

I actually thought she did have a ton of performative comments. Looking through her iso, she spent like 10-20 posts in a row talking about how townie she was.

How do you feel about Master Radishes? A lot of their posts are the same

[cassandra]

her being like "i'm super towny, i don't often have town games like this" based on the content of her posts almost feels openwolfy lmfao

[Marmot]

reasons anne is town:
-has a similar POE to me/doesn't have a ton of overly performative comments
-lacks usual maf aggressiveness

reasons anne is maf:
-demanding jay to townread her at start felt bad
-didn't do her secret towntell i have for her (i don't think, double checking)
-attitude stuff was offputting in its timing

eh, probably 50/50 on my end for her.

I actually thought she did have a ton of performative comments. Looking through her iso, she spent like 10-20 posts in a row talking about how townie she was.

How do you feel about Master Radishes? A lot of their posts are the same

Lemme check

[ilario]

Gm I’m catching up what I missed

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

People who refuse to engage with people are always a good idea to get out of the way early. I don't want to be stuck at LyLo with any of them

People who want to kill people for not playing how they want them to are always a good idea to get out of the way early. I don't want to be stuck at kilo with any of them.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Gm I’m catching up what I missed

Were killing wilgy

[cassandra]

i like anne's defense of iaafr though
idk

[ilario]

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

Response to SPF is pretty fart

There's nothing much I feel the need to say to her or to anyone. SPF's was a fairly lazy but understandable reaction to my posts. People who high post and give 'effort' don't tend to like people who hang around not keeping up with them, and all it takes is a little thing to nitpick (such as my 'shrug' at the Mac thing) to become 'PoE because why not'. This is particularly true in a gamestate with quality players doing quality things - it's hard to find good wolves on D1 and easy to go after the leftovers of the lobby.

I've given a few passing thoughts on things I had passing thoughts on, but I will not be making any effort to do more, particularly not in D1. I stand by my initial bold declaration - I will not be a miselim this game.

towny

[iaafr]

People who refuse to engage with people are always a good idea to get out of the way early. I don't want to be stuck at LyLo with any of them

People who want to kill people for not playing how they want them to are always a good idea to get out of the way early. I don't want to be stuck at kilo with any of them.

unironically simultaneously agree with both of these things and it usually comes down to how much the slot annoys me / how unreasonable/inaccurate they seem lmao

[leetic]

her being like "i'm super towny, i don't often have town games like this" based on the content of her posts almost feels openwolfy lmfao

That's always stuff that I have difficulty reading because I don't just take their word for it and people can always change their scum game, especially when they're self aware. Many people familiar with Anne are townreading her which is the one thing she has going for her though

[NotAnAxehole]

#87, #88, #93, #98, #111, #113, #135, #145 - Anne posts that vaguely or directly reference the set up

Then her next town posts are about how she should be town read and is out of wolf range.

Now I know what some might say... It's early day 1. But the fact is, people were having real discussions around her whether game-related or not, but I didn't get the sense from reading that she ever attempted to jump in, she just wanted the town cred for being there.

[NotAnAxehole]

ten not town wtf

[Marmot]

reasons anne is town:
-has a similar POE to me/doesn't have a ton of overly performative comments
-lacks usual maf aggressiveness

reasons anne is maf:
-demanding jay to townread her at start felt bad
-didn't do her secret towntell i have for her (i don't think, double checking)
-attitude stuff was offputting in its timing

eh, probably 50/50 on my end for her.

I actually thought she did have a ton of performative comments. Looking through her iso, she spent like 10-20 posts in a row talking about how townie she was.

How do you feel about Master Radishes? A lot of their posts are the same

Lemme check

Probably the weirdest thing MR did is make a serious read on Mac/falcon while the rest of his iso is full of jokes.

[cassandra]

yeah well she was absolutely lying about being out of her wolf range which is the most offputting part to me i guess.

[DrWilgy]

People who refuse to engage with people are always a good idea to get out of the way early. I don't want to be stuck at LyLo with any of them

People who want to kill people for not playing how they want them to are always a good idea to get out of the way early. I don't want to be stuck at kilo with any of them.

unironically simultaneously agree with both of these things and it usually comes down to how much the slot annoys me / how unreasonable/inaccurate they seem lmao

Duh

[leetic]

People who refuse to engage with people are always a good idea to get out of the way early. I don't want to be stuck at LyLo with any of them

People who want to kill people for not playing how they want them to are always a good idea to get out of the way early. I don't want to be stuck at kilo with any of them.

Why would someone even play a social game like Mafia if they refuse to engage with people? That is my question

[leetic]

People who refuse to engage with people are always a good idea to get out of the way early. I don't want to be stuck at LyLo with any of them

People who want to kill people for not playing how they want them to are always a good idea to get out of the way early. I don't want to be stuck at kilo with any of them.

unironically simultaneously agree with both of these things and it usually comes down to how much the slot annoys me / how unreasonable/inaccurate they seem lmao

Duh

Why are you town? Neither you nor anyone else has given me a good answer

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

People who refuse to engage with people are always a good idea to get out of the way early. I don't want to be stuck at LyLo with any of them

People who want to kill people for not playing how they want them to are always a good idea to get out of the way early. I don't want to be stuck at kilo with any of them.

Why would someone even play a social game like Mafia if they refuse to engage with people? That is my question

Why would someone even play a social game like mafia if they refuse to allow for different playstyles and styles of communication? That is my question

[iaafr]

I'm busy and I don't really feel like moving, the vague townvibes I get from Anne/Mr make me wanna stay on NAA but I'm honestly ok with any flip and I don't feel too strongly.

gl team (will still be sort of here but heavily distracted)

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Did leetic ever explain how in the hell he thought I might have tmi on his role?

[leetic]

People who refuse to engage with people are always a good idea to get out of the way early. I don't want to be stuck at LyLo with any of them

People who want to kill people for not playing how they want them to are always a good idea to get out of the way early. I don't want to be stuck at kilo with any of them.

Why would someone even play a social game like Mafia if they refuse to engage with people? That is my question

Why would someone even play a social game like mafia if they refuse to allow for different playstyles and styles of communication? That is my question

Yeah, because not playing the game is a valid way of playing the game

[iaafr]

oh also in case I forgot to say this by eod

nk me I'll flip vanilla it'll be hilarious

[NotAnAxehole]

People who refuse to engage with people are always a good idea to get out of the way early. I don't want to be stuck at LyLo with any of them

People who want to kill people for not playing how they want them to are always a good idea to get out of the way early. I don't want to be stuck at kilo with any of them.

Why would someone even play a social game like Mafia if they refuse to engage with people? That is my question

I mean, I tried to present you with logic as to why you should town read me, then you rejected it, claiming I'm not doing enough to be town read by you. I can't go as far as to correct how you see the game, and why that's flawed when reading a player like me. At a certain point I have to accept that I'm not getting anywhere with you and move on.

[cassandra]

i'm still a little offput by how fast the wagon on Anne grew, though, especially when 3/5 on the wagon i have in my POE and she was getting townread earlier

i dunno, i probably won't vote her today

[leetic]

Did leetic ever explain how in the hell he thought I might have tmi on his role?

Yeah, did you explain why you don't:

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

People who refuse to engage with people are always a good idea to get out of the way early. I don't want to be stuck at LyLo with any of them

People who want to kill people for not playing how they want them to are always a good idea to get out of the way early. I don't want to be stuck at kilo with any of them.

Why would someone even play a social game like Mafia if they refuse to engage with people? That is my question

Why would someone even play a social game like mafia if they refuse to allow for different playstyles and styles of communication? That is my question

Yeah, because not playing the game is a valid way of playing the game

Yeah, because not playing the game the way you want it played is a valid way of playing the game

[staypositivefriend]

my boss let me out of work early (god bless) so im fully here now until the EOD

what's up?

[NotAnAxehole]

Did leetic ever explain how in the hell he thought I might have tmi on his role?

I think this is an exercise in futility.

[ilario]

CFD on Ilario?

i repeat, mac deserves to be death tunneled for clearing this guy

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Did leetic ever explain how in the hell he thought I might have tmi on his role?

Yeah, did you explain why you don't:

...

You're two people sharing one slot, that's a hydra.

[Marmot]

I felt better about voting for Anne until I read MR's iso and his reasoning for voting for Anne. :wowee:

How is Anne better than NAA? In what ways is Anne scummy to you?

Dunno but I'm sure I'll think of reasons eventually.

I don't like any of the current wagons. I didn't intend to sit on my vanity wagon but I may just do it anyway.

Let's try this one

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

[leetic]

i'm still a little offput by how fast the wagon on Anne grew, though, especially when 3/5 on the wagon i have in my POE and she was getting townread earlier

i dunno, i probably won't vote her today

Yeah, I'm not confident with any of her voters beside Falcon who is sheeping Mac who I'm not confident on