Smilies Mafia - GAME END

[EnderWiggin]

I think Ender has probably faked a role claim and probably doesn’t have any powers which is probably mildly wolfy tbh

Lmao.

[EnderWiggin]

I don’t think Ender/Jack is a possible wolf team. I think the fact that Gav has created a POE that even he should know always loses the game is suspicious. Like Gav’s telling me, sans any evidence, that the only thing I can do is case Ender and I’m like vaguely willing to do that but if Ender’s a wolf it’s almost certainly not with Jack

... This is actually towny.

Or desperate wolf.

[Gavial]

Seriously if anyone actually seriously thinks Scum Jack and Scum Ender as a team works and decides to hard-bus and force their lhf team-member to go over you actually have no idea how I scum.

If you said I was w/w with TSP or LC?

Like that's fine.

But Jack/Ender makes no sense purely from the fact that I hate losing a teammate D1.

No it’s not.
You always kill Jack before Alison unless Jack is Scum with you.

I mean, that's true.

But like, that alone should tell you I'm town because:
1. I always kill Jack > Alison N1
2. Jack/Ender saves Seanzie 100% of the time.

I mean if you think about it you didn’t intentionally Buss him with the thought of him going over.

It was more like:
Lime Coke and Sean had 3 votes on them as top wagons.
Lime Coke wins the tie.
If you moved your vote off of Sean it would make you look sus.
There was only a couple of mins or secs left so since Sean was going over anyway, Jack voted there to earn himself some sweet town credit.
Jack only bussed because his bud was gonna die anyway and he can receive town credit.
You only bussed as a distancing tactic but you couldn’t really move your vote so you let Sean go over.

[Gavial]

I don’t think Ender/Jack is a possible wolf team. I think the fact that Gav has created a POE that even he should know always loses the game is suspicious. Like Gav’s telling me, sans any evidence, that the only thing I can do is case Ender and I’m like vaguely willing to do that but if Ender’s a wolf it’s almost certainly not with Jack

... This is actually towny.

Or desperate wolf.

It’s not Townie it’s just basically repeating what you said.
Least the Jack/You part.

[EnderWiggin]

Seriously if anyone actually seriously thinks Scum Jack and Scum Ender as a team works and decides to hard-bus and force their lhf team-member to go over you actually have no idea how I scum.

If you said I was w/w with TSP or LC?

Like that's fine.

But Jack/Ender makes no sense purely from the fact that I hate losing a teammate D1.

No it’s not.
You always kill Jack before Alison unless Jack is Scum with you.

I mean, that's true.

But like, that alone should tell you I'm town because:
1. I always kill Jack > Alison N1
2. Jack/Ender saves Seanzie 100% of the time.

I mean if you think about it you didn’t intentionally Buss him with the thought of him going over.

It was more like:
Lime Coke and Sean had 3 votes on them as top wagons.
Lime Coke wins the tie.
If you moved your vote off of Sean it would make you look sus.
There was only a couple of mins or secs left so since Sean was going over anyway, Jack voted there to earn himself some sweet town credit.
Jack only bussed because his bud was gonna die anyway and he can receive town credit.
You only bussed as a distancing tactic but you couldn’t really move your vote so you let Sean go over.

I had the easiest pivot to a Rondo vote ever lmao.

[EnderWiggin]

I don’t think Ender/Jack is a possible wolf team. I think the fact that Gav has created a POE that even he should know always loses the game is suspicious. Like Gav’s telling me, sans any evidence, that the only thing I can do is case Ender and I’m like vaguely willing to do that but if Ender’s a wolf it’s almost certainly not with Jack

... This is actually towny.

Or desperate wolf.

It’s not Townie it’s just basically repeating what you said.
Least the Jack/You part.

I mean that's true.

[Gavial]

I think Ender has probably faked a role claim and probably doesn’t have any powers which is probably mildly wolfy tbh

Lmao.

Oh but you guys can’t beat Jack.
Claims 2-shot of none of your business.

[Gavial]

What a guy eh?

[EnderWiggin]

The idea that me, as a wolf, would have decision paralysis and not take my earlier posts as an excuse to pivot back to Rondo and make it Rondo vs LC and not Seanzie vs LC is just...

[Gavial]

Tony claimed Useless role and is hoping for @ilario to have some sort of clear on him?

[EnderWiggin]

That reads like he has some sort of Godfather ability tbh.

[TonyStarkPrime]

That reads like he has some sort of Godfather ability tbh.

the fact that I know this is gonna make you think that more but martin considers godfather-esque roles to be bastard and they therefore are not here

[Gavial]

Neither is self preserving.

@RondoDimBuckle @Seanzie

Gimmie your read on the other. If it’s a townread, convince me to yeet outside of you.

I have had a strong townread on Falcon in almost every game we’ve played together where he’s town. I don’t have a townread on him here.

See this was a weird progression EoD1 and I’ll probably mention this in my case on Jack later tonight.
@EnderWiggin
I’d have to look into it more for why exactly you choose to not vote Rondo but it probably has to do with something within the game state that happened during EoD1 that kinda made it unlikely for you to vote Rondo.

[TonyStarkPrime]

The idea that me, as a wolf, would have decision paralysis and not take my earlier posts as an excuse to pivot back to Rondo and make it Rondo vs LC and not Seanzie vs LC is just...

The idea that me, as a wolf, would come into the thread ten minutes before eod and derail a stable chop on town is just...

[EnderWiggin]

Neither is self preserving.

@RondoDimBuckle @Seanzie

Gimmie your read on the other. If it’s a townread, convince me to yeet outside of you.

I have had a strong townread on Falcon in almost every game we’ve played together where he’s town. I don’t have a townread on him here.

See this was a weird progression EoD1 and I’ll probably mention this in my case on Jack later tonight.
@EnderWiggin
I’d have to look into it more for why exactly you choose to not vote Rondo but it probably has to do with something within the game state that happened during EoD1 that kinda made it unlikely for you to vote Rondo.

I made a meta read that I could've pretended didn't exist.

[EnderWiggin]

You know what would be hilarious?

Gav/Jack.

[TonyStarkPrime]

You know what would be hilarious?

Gav/Jack.

fwiw, and I've said as much, i think if gav is a wolf this is still the most likely team because that's just how gav operates and also he keeps forcing it between you and me even though he thinks jack is lock wolf blah blah blah

[EnderWiggin]

Let's be spicy.

[VOTE: Gav] aubergine

[EnderWiggin]

Lets*

[Gavial]

You know what would be hilarious?

Gav/Jack.

fwiw, and I've said as much, i think if gav is a wolf this is still the most likely team because that's just how gav operates and also he keeps forcing it between you and me even though he thinks jack is lock wolf blah blah blah

Yeah no shit I’m forcing it between you two.
Because no one is gonna fucking vote Jack other then me.
I’ve stated that serval fucking times.

[Gavial]

I honestly have no clue which one of you two are scum because you both are being very questionable.

[Gavial]

@EnderWiggin
Why did you drop off of TSP all of a sudden?

@TonyStarkPrime
Where’s your Ender case?

[EnderWiggin]

@EnderWiggin
Why did you drop off of TSP all of a sudden?

@TonyStarkPrime
Where’s your Ender case?

I wanna see what happens if I do this vote.

[TonyStarkPrime]

i'm waiting for you to case jack before i reeval

[Gavial]

i'm waiting for you to case jack before i reeval

Re-Eval?
How’s Re-Eval the equivalent to “Casing Ender”?

[TonyStarkPrime]

given that i'm currently not voting for ender it would be reevaling to reassess my position and right now i don't think i need to

[Gavial]

You know what would be hilarious?

Gav/Jack.

fwiw, and I've said as much, i think if gav is a wolf this is still the most likely team because that's just how gav operates and also he keeps forcing it between you and me even though he thinks jack is lock wolf blah blah blah

Yeah no shit I’m forcing it between you two.
Because no one is gonna fucking vote Jack other then me.
I’ve stated that serval fucking times.

Also, I’ve mentioned to Ender that TSP thought Me/Jack were the team. Think I even responded that from Ender first saying it’s Me/LC like lol.

[Gavial]

given that i'm currently not voting for ender it would be reevaling to reassess my position and right now i don't think i need to

So let’s just clarify
You Town read Falcon and Lime (which are both obvious town, least I know for sure tonight when I target Lime)
You scum lean Ender
You Town Read Jack
Then you wiggle your fingers inside a tool box and pull out a scum read on me for some crazy brain buster reason and say that I’m with your Town Read Jack yet do nothing to interact with Jack.

I’ll give Ender the benefit of the doubt.
At least he isn’t completely illogical, but he should read my posts more as he didn’t need to bring up what I already stated.

[Gavial]

Like Tony I’d expect you to have known better and you know, talk to Jack.

Like if your the town here Tony and didn’t even notice Jack stepped in for Ender when you voted Ender plus everything else I’ve said this entire game to try and point to you that it’s Jack with Ender then you need to open your eyes as wide as they can open.






Ender 50%
TSP 50%
Jack 100%

That’s what I see this game RN.
We yeet in Ender/TSP and always hit a scum and then Jack gets confirmed as scum via Falcon if it takes us a second try or via me shouting at the top of my vocal cords if we succeed in the first try and I’m desperately trying to at that point open everyone’s eyes so they can see Jack ain’t town.

[TonyStarkPrime]

given that i'm currently not voting for ender it would be reevaling to reassess my position and right now i don't think i need to

So let’s just clarify
You Town read Falcon and Lime (which are both obvious town, least I know for sure tonight when I target Lime)
You scum lean Ender
You Town Read Jack
Then you wiggle your fingers inside a tool box and pull out a scum read on me for some crazy brain buster reason and say that I’m with your Town Read Jack yet do nothing to interact with Jack.

I’ll give Ender the benefit of the doubt.
At least he isn’t completely illogical, but he should read my posts more as he didn’t need to bring up what I already stated.

i've given more reasons I think you're a wolf than vice versa, somehow

[Gavial]

Like it’s funny.
People think it’s me and Jack.
I suggest voting Jack
I pretty much get this response:
No lol, I think I’ll vote you instead!



Like honestly that’s some disrespect right there, at least state some reasoning.

[Gavial]

given that i'm currently not voting for ender it would be reevaling to reassess my position and right now i don't think i need to

So let’s just clarify
You Town read Falcon and Lime (which are both obvious town, least I know for sure tonight when I target Lime)
You scum lean Ender
You Town Read Jack
Then you wiggle your fingers inside a tool box and pull out a scum read on me for some crazy brain buster reason and say that I’m with your Town Read Jack yet do nothing to interact with Jack.

I’ll give Ender the benefit of the doubt.
At least he isn’t completely illogical, but he should read my posts more as he didn’t need to bring up what I already stated.

i've given more reasons I think you're a wolf than vice versa, somehow

What exactly were they?

[TonyStarkPrime]

Like Tony I’d expect you to have known better and you know, talk to Jack.

Like if your the town here Tony and didn’t even notice Jack stepped in for Ender when you voted Ender plus everything else I’ve said this entire game to try and point to you that it’s Jack with Ender then you need to open your eyes as wide as they can open.






Ender 50%
TSP 50%
Jack 100%

That’s what I see this game RN.
We yeet in Ender/TSP and always hit a scum and then Jack gets confirmed as scum via Falcon if it takes us a second try or via me shouting at the top of my vocal cords if we succeed in the first try and I’m desperately trying to at that point open everyone’s eyes so they can see Jack ain’t town.

jack's not around rn I've been waiting to interact

[Gavial]

Because how I’m treating Jack?
It’s obvious to me he’s scum.
I don’t need to be scum buds with him to know his alignment.
I’ve caught scum in similar positions to Jack before, with the same or even less reasoning but I’m right and as long as your right that means scum can die and I can win!

[TonyStarkPrime]

though actually jack stepping in for ender is actually a thing

[Gavial]

Like Tony I’d expect you to have known better and you know, talk to Jack.

Like if your the town here Tony and didn’t even notice Jack stepped in for Ender when you voted Ender plus everything else I’ve said this entire game to try and point to you that it’s Jack with Ender then you need to open your eyes as wide as they can open.






Ender 50%
TSP 50%
Jack 100%

That’s what I see this game RN.
We yeet in Ender/TSP and always hit a scum and then Jack gets confirmed as scum via Falcon if it takes us a second try or via me shouting at the top of my vocal cords if we succeed in the first try and I’m desperately trying to at that point open everyone’s eyes so they can see Jack ain’t town.

jack's not around rn I've been waiting to interact

@Jackofhearts2005
Talk to Toby!

[Gavial]

@TonyStarkPrime

Why Ender?

This is gonna definitely be in my case but my case kinda probably will resolve around both TSP and Ender because IDK which one of them is Jack’s Bud.

[TonyStarkPrime]

given that i'm currently not voting for ender it would be reevaling to reassess my position and right now i don't think i need to

So let’s just clarify
You Town read Falcon and Lime (which are both obvious town, least I know for sure tonight when I target Lime)
You scum lean Ender
You Town Read Jack
Then you wiggle your fingers inside a tool box and pull out a scum read on me for some crazy brain buster reason and say that I’m with your Town Read Jack yet do nothing to interact with Jack.

I’ll give Ender the benefit of the doubt.
At least he isn’t completely illogical, but he should read my posts more as he didn’t need to bring up what I already stated.

i've given more reasons I think you're a wolf than vice versa, somehow

What exactly were they?

your progressions have been incoherent, your team suggestions have been nonsensical, I think you've tmi'ed multiple people town (including maybe me), and you keep trying to chop different people despite having constant reads

[TonyStarkPrime]

also gav like multiple people, actually the majority of people in the game, have poe'd jack, you could definitely have gotten a wagon on him if you tried, but you didn't even try today?

[TonyStarkPrime]

unfortunately currently I have two possibilities on that front of the options where you're a wolf so I'm waiting for the case

[Gavial]

given that i'm currently not voting for ender it would be reevaling to reassess my position and right now i don't think i need to

So let’s just clarify
You Town read Falcon and Lime (which are both obvious town, least I know for sure tonight when I target Lime)
You scum lean Ender
You Town Read Jack
Then you wiggle your fingers inside a tool box and pull out a scum read on me for some crazy brain buster reason and say that I’m with your Town Read Jack yet do nothing to interact with Jack.

I’ll give Ender the benefit of the doubt.
At least he isn’t completely illogical, but he should read my posts more as he didn’t need to bring up what I already stated.

i've given more reasons I think you're a wolf than vice versa, somehow

What exactly were they?

your progressions have been incoherent, your team suggestions have been nonsensical, I think you've tmi'ed multiple people town (including maybe me), and you keep trying to chop different people despite having constant reads

My progression has been very coherent TYVM.
My team suggestions make allot of sense
My chops after really changed that much at all.
After Nanook it’s legit always been you and Jack but I also concluded that Ender can only be scum with Jack.

As for my team suggestion the only two players that make sense with Jack is you and Ender.
So well a!
Stop quick thinking and take your time to actually look at my progression instead of calling it incoherent.

[Gavial]

Look at my perspective.
In fact replace yourself with me and now look at it from that standpoint

(Jack + Ender/Me instead of Ender/You)

[Gavial]

also gav like multiple people, actually the majority of people in the game, have poe'd jack, you could definitely have gotten a wagon on him if you tried, but you didn't even try today?

Excuse me?

[Gavial]

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

We're either getting this or TSP. They've gone on far too long without voting out a wolf.

That's rich

I literally voted out Sean. You haven't done shit.

If you guys are SO UNSURE ABOUT LIME COKE.
Vote TSP.
TSP SCUM FLIP CONFIRMS LIME AS TOWN VIA DAY 1!

As for Falcon, I’m telling you based on the chat it ain’t possible they are scum.

I'll vote TSP with you.

[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

I’m not voting tsp.
I’m voting Jack.
Jack has a greater chance.
Jack made it clear he is never going to vote TSP.
Jack/TSP prob the team anyway but still would rather Jack go because TSP is easier to yeet then Jack because Jack!Red flip makes no way TSP escapes but Jack could escape vice versa if they choose to kill me.

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

We're either getting this or TSP. They've gone on far too long without voting out a wolf.

FFS Falcon is town.
Stop killing yourselves town and vote Jack.

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

[Gavial]

Again, @TonyStarkPrime
No one was interested.
The real question is what do you think about Jack?

[Gavial]

unfortunately currently I have two possibilities on that front of the options where you're a wolf so I'm waiting for the case

You know if you are town.
I’m slowly preying you get on the same page as me and see that it’s Ender/Jack.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Also I know I've lost control of my life but what the hell are you doing up rn.

I fell asleep with the computer on

[RondoDimBuckle]

The idea that me, as a wolf, would have decision paralysis and not take my earlier posts as an excuse to pivot back to Rondo and make it Rondo vs LC and not Seanzie vs LC is just...

Ender would have offed me with the vote so easy and it would have been an LC/Rondo wagon instead of LC/Seanzie

[TonyStarkPrime]

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

We're either getting this or TSP. They've gone on far too long without voting out a wolf.

That's rich

I literally voted out Sean. You haven't done shit.

If you guys are SO UNSURE ABOUT LIME COKE.
Vote TSP.
TSP SCUM FLIP CONFIRMS LIME AS TOWN VIA DAY 1!

As for Falcon, I’m telling you based on the chat it ain’t possible they are scum.

I'll vote TSP with you.

[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

I’m not voting tsp.
I’m voting Jack.
Jack has a greater chance.
Jack made it clear he is never going to vote TSP.
Jack/TSP prob the team anyway but still would rather Jack go because TSP is easier to yeet then Jack because Jack!Red flip makes no way TSP escapes but Jack could escape vice versa if they choose to kill me.

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

We're either getting this or TSP. They've gone on far too long without voting out a wolf.

FFS Falcon is town.
Stop killing yourselves town and vote Jack.

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

ok I apparently lied whoops

[ilario]

I’m still hoping that Illario has a clear on me

Nopeeeee but I kinda just get the feeling that U might not be scum anymore