PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [END]

[staypositivefriend]

I've been trying to catch up for the better part of an hour. I see I'm getting d1 heat again. As I always do. Because people always forget my d1s tend to suck

I like that sunbae went right to spf's how to read her guide and compared. I think that he might have been a little biased when he looked at it thoguh

I have a gut feeling about alison's alignment. I didn't like her one post but I also don't like that she hasn't come back and tried to solve the game yet

@outed wolf I gave my thoughts on amy but feels like my thoughts count for jack shit as usual

it's super frustrating to finally rand town in a game with visor and zack and have them not even explain their shitty reads on me

i feel that the frustration in these posts were completely authentic - i have no doubt that dya was frustrated that they were being wolfread so early into the game before they had a chance to really get comfortable, and i think that these posts were dya attempting to get some of the heat off of themselves so that they could get back into the flow of things

after dyachei made that post, here are some of the posts that outed wolf made about dyachei:

what do you think of dya spf, specifically (not like you agree with arguments others make, whats your interpretation.thoughts on their posts)

So. Dya then?

Where else we thinking

I think dyachei flips wolf most of the time

But we are gonna end up talking about gavial tomorrow if he's alive and doing this song and dance again. Better to bite the bullet and kill him today and move on unless Yall wanna kill dya

if visor is a wolf and they see their wolf partner struggling under early pressure and clearly wanting people to back off, i don't know that he would go out of his way to ask me for my detailed thoughts on dyachei (knowing that i wolfread them at the time), nor would he go out of his way to suggest that dya be the d1 chop or to reiterate that he feels that dyachei will flip wolf most of the time

it just doesnt really feel like a bus to me. and the point where i anticipate that dyachei would ask people to bus them/distance from them came after visor started pushing on them, which makes me feel like visor is a villager that happened to play a fairly big role in concentrating the right amount of momentum against dyachei in the early game

@Dyslexicon - here's a post i made toward the end of yesterday that pushed me into feeling like outed wolf might just be a villager. any thoughts? do you think the point is strong?

[nutella]

i actually kind of like her posts. why is she a wolf?

@nutella In this post Dya is challenging c4's wolf read of SPF. c4's read is expressed confidently and based on meta. So if v!c4 comes in and is like "SPF is a wolf, I have a real read and I have meta and I can read her" kind of vibes, I highly doubt that Dya's second ever meaningful post is going to be a straight up defence like this. Almost everyone I see lean towards not defending mates early on and are rather (too much imo) distancy instead.

this isn't remotely clearing for either spf or c4 imo

but i also just kind of want to sheep your reads because i'm tired of thinking

I think you should sheep my reads. Your first read list was very bad seeing the flips lol.

No, but for real. I do think that is pretty clearing for SPF. I've rarely seen that kind of early interaction from w/w. Similar to how I've rarely seen wolf piggy back of other wolf with "exactly" - how I cleared Zack.

I also don't want to think and just want to run with it tbh.

okay

if we can arrive at the wolf being in visor/c4, cool

[outed wolf]

[VOTE: outed wolf] aubergine

yeah i think your shit is just fake

your indignance at any implication you would have bussed dya or not killed amy or any other detail is garbo, like you feel entitled to being townread
your turnaround on dya was exaggerated, didn't feel at all natural like the wavering i had on her
your incessant questioning of my reads on the poe/mischops in the last couple phases has been exceedingly performative

i'm not buying it anymore

lmao

i think i have barely talked to you in the last couple phases

you do you though!

lol what

i could pull up multiquotes

of like

20 posts in a row on d5 where you asked me to elaborate on my tangy read
and several yesterday on arete/others

you keep prodding me to delve deeper into my solves and i mentioned earlier how it prompts me to confbias more on things that have since turned out to be wrong

how is that my fault?

lmao

i have had that approach to multiple people in this game - now that you mention it i remember it but its still the only interaction with you i remember for days - i think because i hvent really bothered solving you for a while

[Dyslexicon]

also, why does zack dying point to outed wolf being mafia? zack felt fairly strongly that outed wolf was town, yeah? do you think that outed wolf was worried about zack catching him?

I don't think he actually did.
Also, maybe paranoia, but I feel it's possible Visor buddied Zack last day phase. He quoted him with "I understand that" (or such) at some points. Maybe it's just friendly, but it weirded me out.

I do think Nut and SPF are both town. Whoever of Visor and c4 are town, show it unmistakably please. I'm not dragging this to F3.

[staypositivefriend]

the one thing i dont understand about this day so far is why zack dying prompted nutella to become suspicious of outed wolf. why does zack dying in this scenario increase outed wolf's wolf equity when zack mostly townread him?

[outed wolf]

fwiw, i think c4 is the wolf and if he isnt im gonna vote him in f3 so i want him dead today in case im wrong

ymmv,

also that popin at eod yesterday was wolfy ldo

[nutella]

I've been trying to catch up for the better part of an hour. I see I'm getting d1 heat again. As I always do. Because people always forget my d1s tend to suck

I like that sunbae went right to spf's how to read her guide and compared. I think that he might have been a little biased when he looked at it thoguh

I have a gut feeling about alison's alignment. I didn't like her one post but I also don't like that she hasn't come back and tried to solve the game yet

@outed wolf I gave my thoughts on amy but feels like my thoughts count for jack shit as usual

it's super frustrating to finally rand town in a game with visor and zack and have them not even explain their shitty reads on me

i feel that the frustration in these posts were completely authentic - i have no doubt that dya was frustrated that they were being wolfread so early into the game before they had a chance to really get comfortable, and i think that these posts were dya attempting to get some of the heat off of themselves so that they could get back into the flow of things

after dyachei made that post, here are some of the posts that outed wolf made about dyachei:

what do you think of dya spf, specifically (not like you agree with arguments others make, whats your interpretation.thoughts on their posts)

So. Dya then?

Where else we thinking

I think dyachei flips wolf most of the time

But we are gonna end up talking about gavial tomorrow if he's alive and doing this song and dance again. Better to bite the bullet and kill him today and move on unless Yall wanna kill dya

if visor is a wolf and they see their wolf partner struggling under early pressure and clearly wanting people to back off, i don't know that he would go out of his way to ask me for my detailed thoughts on dyachei (knowing that i wolfread them at the time), nor would he go out of his way to suggest that dya be the d1 chop or to reiterate that he feels that dyachei will flip wolf most of the time

it just doesnt really feel like a bus to me. and the point where i anticipate that dyachei would ask people to bus them/distance from them came after visor started pushing on them, which makes me feel like visor is a villager that happened to play a fairly big role in concentrating the right amount of momentum against dyachei in the early game

@Dyslexicon - here's a post i made toward the end of yesterday that pushed me into feeling like outed wolf might just be a villager. any thoughts? do you think the point is strong?

i think the dya posts *maybe* look alright for him but theyre also just sort of grouping him with villagers in a way that could be engineered
the posts from visor himself here don't really do a ton for me, "I think dyachei flips wolf most of the time" is not a hard thing for a bussing wolf to say about a teammate who's been on the back foot/heading toward going down all game

[staypositivefriend]

zack, is outed wolf just a villager? give me your guidance

just because visor and i have been playing with each other for a decade and have vaguely similar styles and are both in the 18-65 age demographic doesn't mean we read each other with a stunning degree of accuracy or anything. if anything it used to be the opposite.

I think he's a villager, I don't think he'd push dya like that as w/w, but if you're looking to absolve yourself of responsibility and have me tell you it's a lock, sorry. I could be wrong. He's a good wolf and it has literally been years since I have any half-relevant personal experience with his wolf game. You have mentioned several times that he feels off and different to you, and I'm not sure what you mean, he seems pretty much like normal visor to me.

his posts where he was buttering me up talking about what a spectacular, wonderful, tactically brilliant nightkill I would have been made me raise my eyebrows a bit but shrug.

^^zack's read on outed wolf toward the EOD, for posterity

[staypositivefriend]

i actually thought that c4's pop in at the end of yesterday was villagery right up until the moment where he made the self-preservation vote. i townread the fact that he was like "yeah w/e i get why you would wanna kill me" and made no attempt to save himself, ....but then he did lol

[outed wolf]

"the posts from visor himself here don't really do a ton for me, "I think dyachei flips wolf most of the time" is not a hard thing for a bussing wolf to say about a teammate who's been on the back foot/heading toward going down all game"

who helped make dya go down all game?

- i have to go now but this is silly nutella.

[nutella]

[VOTE: outed wolf] aubergine

yeah i think your shit is just fake

your indignance at any implication you would have bussed dya or not killed amy or any other detail is garbo, like you feel entitled to being townread
your turnaround on dya was exaggerated, didn't feel at all natural like the wavering i had on her
your incessant questioning of my reads on the poe/mischops in the last couple phases has been exceedingly performative

i'm not buying it anymore

lmao

i think i have barely talked to you in the last couple phases

you do you though!

lol what

i could pull up multiquotes

of like

20 posts in a row on d5 where you asked me to elaborate on my tangy read
and several yesterday on arete/others

you keep prodding me to delve deeper into my solves and i mentioned earlier how it prompts me to confbias more on things that have since turned out to be wrong

how is that my fault?

lmao

i have had that approach to multiple people in this game - now that you mention it i remember it but its still the only interaction with you i remember for days - i think because i hvent really bothered solving you for a while

I'm just saying there's something about your mode of engagement with the game that has felt different from pretty much everyone else's for the last couple days, it's like you're poking to see where town's heads are at to figure out what the "correct"/viable viewpoints are

[staypositivefriend]

@outed wolf - is nutella a villager?

[nutella]

I'm not articulating this very well

but there's also like a wim aspect to it where

if you're the last wolf you have a pretty good chance here, but you have to keep appearing solvy and stuff to keep that up, and it's kind of how i'd expect you to do that

[Dyslexicon]

Spoiler: show

I've been trying to catch up for the better part of an hour. I see I'm getting d1 heat again. As I always do. Because people always forget my d1s tend to suck

I like that sunbae went right to spf's how to read her guide and compared. I think that he might have been a little biased when he looked at it thoguh

I have a gut feeling about alison's alignment. I didn't like her one post but I also don't like that she hasn't come back and tried to solve the game yet

@outed wolf I gave my thoughts on amy but feels like my thoughts count for jack shit as usual

it's super frustrating to finally rand town in a game with visor and zack and have them not even explain their shitty reads on me

i feel that the frustration in these posts were completely authentic - i have no doubt that dya was frustrated that they were being wolfread so early into the game before they had a chance to really get comfortable, and i think that these posts were dya attempting to get some of the heat off of themselves so that they could get back into the flow of things

after dyachei made that post, here are some of the posts that outed wolf made about dyachei:

what do you think of dya spf, specifically (not like you agree with arguments others make, whats your interpretation.thoughts on their posts)

So. Dya then?

Where else we thinking

I think dyachei flips wolf most of the time

But we are gonna end up talking about gavial tomorrow if he's alive and doing this song and dance again. Better to bite the bullet and kill him today and move on unless Yall wanna kill dya

if visor is a wolf and they see their wolf partner struggling under early pressure and clearly wanting people to back off, i don't know that he would go out of his way to ask me for my detailed thoughts on dyachei (knowing that i wolfread them at the time), nor would he go out of his way to suggest that dya be the d1 chop or to reiterate that he feels that dyachei will flip wolf most of the time

it just doesnt really feel like a bus to me. and the point where i anticipate that dyachei would ask people to bus them/distance from them came after visor started pushing on them, which makes me feel like visor is a villager that happened to play a fairly big role in concentrating the right amount of momentum against dyachei in the early game

@Dyslexicon - here's a post i made toward the end of yesterday that pushed me into feeling like outed wolf might just be a villager. any thoughts? do you think the point is strong?

I think the point is strong-ish. Particularly the first part. I do remember now that I hated Visor's reason for voting Gavial at all on D1. It was like "ripping off the bandaid" (unless it was Zack who said exactly that). But it was the same sentiment of "I don't want to deal with this later". But then, if Zack did the same, maybe it's not such a bad thing. Just a bit lame.

But anyway, the first point looks like w!Dya reacting to v!Visor.

[VOTE: c4] aubergine

[nutella]

the one thing i dont understand about this day so far is why zack dying prompted nutella to become suspicious of outed wolf. why does zack dying in this scenario increase outed wolf's wolf equity when zack mostly townread him?

i have been suspicious of visor since the night before last, it wavered on and off yesterday but his tone at sod brought it back

[nutella]

also as for the zack death part of it, theres wifom there obviously but i think it makes sense -- they have by far the most experience with each other and i think zack expressed at least some amount of uncertainty, plus visor keeps talking about how i change my mind so much that it honestly might be a reason he'd keep me around because i'm easily swayed to whatever wagon is hot

[staypositivefriend]

the one thing i dont understand about this day so far is why zack dying prompted nutella to become suspicious of outed wolf. why does zack dying in this scenario increase outed wolf's wolf equity when zack mostly townread him?

i have been suspicious of visor since the night before last, it wavered on and off yesterday but his tone at sod brought it back

mm sure, but you specifically pointed to zack dying as something that reflects badly on visor, and i don't really understand where that thought comes from. do you mind clarifying it for me?

[staypositivefriend]

nice x-post lol

[nutella]

also that popin at eod yesterday was wolfy ldo

i think it was nai

[nutella]

zack, is outed wolf just a villager? give me your guidance

just because visor and i have been playing with each other for a decade and have vaguely similar styles and are both in the 18-65 age demographic doesn't mean we read each other with a stunning degree of accuracy or anything. if anything it used to be the opposite.

I think he's a villager, I don't think he'd push dya like that as w/w, but if you're looking to absolve yourself of responsibility and have me tell you it's a lock, sorry. I could be wrong. He's a good wolf and it has literally been years since I have any half-relevant personal experience with his wolf game. You have mentioned several times that he feels off and different to you, and I'm not sure what you mean, he seems pretty much like normal visor to me.

his posts where he was buttering me up talking about what a spectacular, wonderful, tactically brilliant nightkill I would have been made me raise my eyebrows a bit but shrug.

^^zack's read on outed wolf toward the EOD, for posterity

yeah this is what i was thinking of

hes basically absolving himself of if he might be wrong on visor and sorta vaguely suggesting he needs a closer look

[Dyslexicon]

maybe stop trying to tell me how to play a light fucking game

Someone tell me if dya has any kind of history taking criticism to their wolf game personally

Or I could just

Hey @dyachei
Do you take criticism to your wolf game personally?

I don't take criticisms personally, if that's what you're asking? I do however hate being told how to play mafia. It's a pet peeve of mine

Pet peeve regardless of alignment?

yes regardless of alignment

This interaction is real bad.

Why use the perspective of "does Dya have history of taking criticism to thei wolf game personally"? Why not their game in general or even their town game? Usually outbursts like Dya's are read more towny, so why go to the question of "

I have pretty major issues with this.

That said, I want to thread a little bit carefully. Cause my philosophy is - town say scummy shit all the time. Wolves rarely say truly towny shit. And before I started rereading I came to the conclusion that c4 should be town, but honestly, that seems weak now.

I'm reading c4 and I kinda see why people are townreading this. The read on SPF looks like it's coming from a place of real solving. The pointed accusation that SPF is asking questions for the sake of asking questions. Implicitly wondering if dya's a wolf based on their comment about being told how to play FM. Those look real.

Also there's this. It doesn't stand out as much as when Vulgard said Dya was "repping" a read. But it certainly is a word choice saying that c4's thoughts look real, rather than, yeah I don't even know what else, but that they are real. I'll try to see whether Vulgard has yikes wording towards others too.

@staypositivefriend @outed wolf

[nutella]

"the posts from visor himself here don't really do a ton for me, "I think dyachei flips wolf most of the time" is not a hard thing for a bussing wolf to say about a teammate who's been on the back foot/heading toward going down all game"

who helped make dya go down all game?

- i have to go now but this is silly nutella.

yes it's silly that i think you could have hard bussed a partner that you sensed was having a rough go at getting into the game already and was never going to be out of the poe hmmyes

[Dyslexicon]

"the posts from visor himself here don't really do a ton for me, "I think dyachei flips wolf most of the time" is not a hard thing for a bussing wolf to say about a teammate who's been on the back foot/heading toward going down all game"

who helped make dya go down all game?

- i have to go now but this is silly nutella.

yes it's silly that i think you could have hard bussed a partner that you sensed was having a rough go at getting into the game already and was never going to be out of the poe hmmyes

Well, his point was that Dya was in that position also because he himself pushed them to be. Whether that's fully true or not. The relevant thing is if he believes it. I'm leaning yes, and I think it's just c4 at this time. Feeling stronger about this than I did Aroot for sure.

[staypositivefriend]

@Dyslexicon -

the framing of c4's question is actually a bit scummy when you put it in that light, yeah. it could be a potential perspective slip to frame the question as: "does dyachei take criticism against their WOLF game personally" and not just "does dyachei take criticism against their game personally" when c4 appeared to think that dyachei was a villager at the time

it does feel a little nitpicky but i understand what youre getting at. im somewhat lukewarm about the point regarding vulgard - i dont think that vulgard framing c4 in a positive/authentic light is inherently indicative of partner interaction

[nutella]

i could argue that visor has tmi'd me v several times in the way he's addressed me

"you gotta stop being such a weathervane"
"this is silly"

idk why hes voting me lol

[c4e5g3d5]

c4, I'll repeat this and ask for thoughts:

maybe stop trying to tell me how to play a light fucking game

Someone tell me if dya has any kind of history taking criticism to their wolf game personally

Or I could just

Hey @dyachei
Do you take criticism to your wolf game personally?

I don't take criticisms personally, if that's what you're asking? I do however hate being told how to play mafia. It's a pet peeve of mine

Pet peeve regardless of alignment?

yes regardless of alignment

The interaction just drops off after this. And I don't understand why v!c4 would assume it being taking criticism for their wolf game specifically rather than just their game in general.

I thought dya's post was towny in a vacuum and wanted to know if it was in their wolf range. It was. Conversation ended there.

[staypositivefriend]

mind giving me an overview of where your head is at, c4? who do you townread the most confidently? what are you worried about? who's the wolf?

[Dyslexicon]

@Dyslexicon -

the framing of c4's question is actually a bit scummy when you put it in that light, yeah. it could be a potential perspective slip to frame the question as: "does dyachei take criticism against their WOLF game personally" and not just "does dyachei take criticism against their game personally" when c4 appeared to think that dyachei was a villager at the time

it does feel a little nitpicky but i understand what youre getting at. im somewhat lukewarm about the point regarding vulgard - i dont think that vulgard framing c4 in a positive/authentic light is inherently indicative of partner interaction

Well, my point against Vulgard speaking to Dya was also nitpicky. So nitpicky in fact that I didn't even bother to explain what it was until Sunbae asked. Vul's word choice of "Dya repping a read" was highly likely a real perspective slip. I think this is probably also a perspective slip. I don't know why he would assume/wonder if Dya reacted this way as a wolf in particular above any other scenario (them reacting like this as town or them reacting like this regardless of alignment).

I think you are misunderstanding my latter point. It's not about Vul framing c4 in a positive light. It's about the framing of that read and the word choices. He is saying c4 "looks real" which is different from being real. Now, this you can call nitpicky. However, I'm pretty sure it's different wording and a different perspective than when Vul is riffing off how Tangy is town for such and such and such, or how I am town because I wouldn't such and such. Maybe this is one of the things that only makes sense to me.

[c4e5g3d5]

I do think Nut and SPF are both town. Whoever of Visor and c4 are town, show it unmistakably please. I'm not dragging this to F3.

Well if you're town, do you really trust me to vote correctly in F3?

[nutella]

c4, I'll repeat this and ask for thoughts:

Someone tell me if dya has any kind of history taking criticism to their wolf game personally

Or I could just

Hey @dyachei
Do you take criticism to your wolf game personally?

I don't take criticisms personally, if that's what you're asking? I do however hate being told how to play mafia. It's a pet peeve of mine

Pet peeve regardless of alignment?

yes regardless of alignment

The interaction just drops off after this. And I don't understand why v!c4 would assume it being taking criticism for their wolf game specifically rather than just their game in general.

I thought dya's post was towny in a vacuum and wanted to know if it was in their wolf range. It was. Conversation ended there.

this makes sense actually


c4 would love more thoughts from you btw, know youre busy but feel like you have the narrow focus problem these last few days that i correctly identified as wolfy for dya earlier

[Dyslexicon]

c4, I'll repeat this and ask for thoughts:

Someone tell me if dya has any kind of history taking criticism to their wolf game personally

Or I could just

Hey @dyachei
Do you take criticism to your wolf game personally?

I don't take criticisms personally, if that's what you're asking? I do however hate being told how to play mafia. It's a pet peeve of mine

Pet peeve regardless of alignment?

yes regardless of alignment

The interaction just drops off after this. And I don't understand why v!c4 would assume it being taking criticism for their wolf game specifically rather than just their game in general.

I thought dya's post was towny in a vacuum and wanted to know if it was in their wolf range. It was. Conversation ended there.

I see. That is a reasonable answer.

So you are saying that you would town read Dya if they didn't?

[nutella]

I think you are misunderstanding my latter point. It's not about Vul framing c4 in a positive light. It's about the framing of that read and the word choices. He is saying c4 "looks real" which is different from being real. Now, this you can call nitpicky. However, I'm pretty sure it's different wording and a different perspective than when Vul is riffing off how Tangy is town for such and such and such, or how I am town because I wouldn't such and such. Maybe this is one of the things that only makes sense to me.

man since you were right on the other micro thing like this i hope you're just right on this too bc it'd be kinda fuckin legendary

[Dyslexicon]

Well if you're town, do you really trust me to vote correctly in F3?

Uh.

I don't understand this question. That depends on what correctly is, and it depends who is in F3 and it depends on how the game looks then and also how much work you are willing to put in.

[nutella]

Well if you're town, do you really trust me to vote correctly in F3?

Uh.

I don't understand this question. That depends on what correctly is, and it depends who is in F3 and it depends on how the game looks then and also how much work you are willing to put in.

he has implied he would always vote for you if youre both in f3 :/

prob a good reason to chop him today lmao

i honestly really think it's visor rn though

[c4e5g3d5]

mind giving me an overview of where your head is at, c4? who do you townread the most confidently? what are you worried about? who's the wolf?

nut's just town, that's the one where I refuse to budge the most. Search "dya" in her ISO. Read all the hard toggles. Not w/w ever. Not that anyone needed me to say this lol

Also think Visor's EoD4 panic didn't really look w/w with dya and dya TMI'd Visor.

Also think you're obvious. Kinda like in HPM3 where I had silent tinfoils throughout because of how small the PoE was and some of your scummy-looking reads but they all died every time I actually read your posts.

I'll go back and read that post where Dizzy listed the reasons he was town, but I keep ending up here.

[Dyslexicon]

he has implied he would always vote for you if youre both in f3 :/

prob a good reason to chop him today lmao

i honestly really think it's visor rn though

Oh well that's just bad. Syn mis-chopped me in the last F3 before I even got to post. So I'll be legit mad if that happens again. I don't even know what his problem is with me. He literally have never said.

And I don't want this to go to F3 and I don't want to be in it. I think mafia has won about every F3 I've been in, regardless of my alignment, so please let's not make that happen.

[c4e5g3d5]

I thought dya's post was towny in a vacuum and wanted to know if it was in their wolf range. It was. Conversation ended there.

I see. That is a reasonable answer.

So you are saying that you would town read Dya if they didn't?

Yes.

[c4e5g3d5]

Well if you're town, do you really trust me to vote correctly in F3?

Uh.

I don't understand this question. That depends on what correctly is, and it depends who is in F3 and it depends on how the game looks then and also how much work you are willing to put in.

I'm saying that I don't think I have a great reason to fight for survival.

[c4e5g3d5]

Like even without me thinking it's you do you trust me to do due diligence

[Dyslexicon]

I almost want to vote SPF now. I hate this. And I'm going to sleep soon.

c4's "but lol I just can't see anyone but dizzy brrr" is bad but also really not smart if he's scum.

And now I wonder if SPF couldn't see my perspective fully on c4 because she knows it isn't right.

And this will be my last mafia game in a long while.

[Dyslexicon]

I'm saying that I don't think I have a great reason to fight for survival.

If you are town, imo, you owe it to the other town to fight for survival. Or else you're just giving up, leaving whoever poor unfortunate souls to suffer through a F3, assuming you are town.

So that would be the reason.

Like even without me thinking it's you do you trust me to do due diligence

You don't necessarily need to do due diligence to vote right.

I have absolutely no idea why you think I could be scum here.
Though I realise game is hard, and you're saying you have reasons to clear others. But I'm telling you, if you are town, you are wrong. And I'm biased the house down boots, but I can't really understand how you can't tell real from fake in what I've been putting out this game. Seems more like you just don't want to listen or bother to listen. Problem is if that is not AI.

[Dyslexicon]

I need to (attempt to) sleep. Good night.

[staypositivefriend]

Well if you're town, do you really trust me to vote correctly in F3?

Uh.

I don't understand this question. That depends on what correctly is, and it depends who is in F3 and it depends on how the game looks then and also how much work you are willing to put in.

I'm saying that I don't think I have a great reason to fight for survival.

if this is the case, why even bother making a self-preservation vote at the end of yesterday? why not let yourself die?

[staypositivefriend]

@dizzy - ah yeah, i did misunderstand your second point. that particular point doesn't resonate with me because if i'm a wolf and i'm trying to hold back my TMI or sound like i'm speaking from a village POV, then it's common for me to say stuff like: "this looks real" or "this feels real" instead of "this is real!", and i assume that's probably what vulgard was doing in that post regardless of c4's alignment. the differences in how he talks about c4 and how he talks about other players is a point of interest to me though, if you have any more thoughts about that

also no, i understand your perspective about c4 - i "see" what you're getting at now, it's not just the type of argument that tends to resonate with me. shrug

[Dyslexicon]

Open question: How about we let Aroot choose the chop for today?

She is confirmed town. She can post.

[staypositivefriend]

Open question: How about we let Aroot choose the chop for today?

She is confirmed town. She can post.

no

[nutella]

oh right arete can post

(also they* btw)

@Arete would love opinions on outed wolf

[Dyslexicon]

Open question: How about we let Aroot choose the chop for today?

She is confirmed town. She can post.

no

Because?

[staypositivefriend]

Open question: How about we let Aroot choose the chop for today?

She is confirmed town. She can post.

no

Because?

half because they wolfread me and half because i dont really agree with letting individual people "lead" the chops in general

[c4e5g3d5]

- The day the jailkeep happened, I thought I had really solved that it must be Marl or Vulgard as one of the scum. I solved that forgetting that scum would not be free to kill Amy as they pleased, which I didn't think about. That in itself you can call a derp moment, but I'm fine if people want to wave that off as NAI. What is AI imo is that I had a real reaction to thinking this and then realising my mistake. I also had a real reaction to Marl going off at me and immediately realised that Marl was not it. The thing is that I wouldn't have a reaction to this in real time if I was scum and already knew. And then there's the discrepancy between my inner experience and what I express. But I think my reaction can be traced with how I post.

Never considered this



...

What if it's me?