Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]

[MacDougall]

Just ignore everything after d1 from guillo imo, he was obvious town then and he's still probably town, especially if he holds a mason claim

This is a bad read. The gamestate has worsened for mafia. Guillo looks like he's going chaos mode to try to disrupt town.

No, if it feels chaotic, it must be for scum, nothing worse that dropping the mason bomb in the middle of nowhere. I love it

ok boomer

[Seanzie]

@Guillotine how do you feel about Allcrab?

I'd shoot there to clear doubts about town having two watchers, the shot i would perform on Martin to clear the hypothesis that we have two town healers, because i dont believe that.

This isn't really a read. Do you think Allcrab is town? Mafia? If you have a stance, why?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

The Made/Owner interaction is super brief, so others should take a look. You can even ignore everything I said if you want and just look at the posts in the spoilers. I’d appreciate perspectives.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Gavial deserves respect for his play in this game. He sacrificed himself so that I may carry on (and it’s reasonably possible Dana did the same thing ). Not everyone would make that selfless decision.

[MacDougall]

Guillo vs. Mac III: The Final Battle.

Dayvig Guillo

[MacDougall]

Gavial deserves respect for his play in this game. He sacrificed himself so that I may carry on (and it’s reasonably possible Dana did the same thing ). Not everyone would make that selfless decision.

I wouldn't.

[MacDougall]

Jay are you trying to break the site post count record lol

[Guillotine]

@Guillotine how do you feel about Allcrab?

I'd shoot there to clear doubts about town having two watchers, the shot i would perform on Martin to clear the hypothesis that we have two town healers, because i dont believe that.

This isn't really a read. Do you think Allcrab is town? Mafia? If you have a stance, why?

Hmm look i think LoMo is town and i dont think there are two town watchers. So I'd shoot AllCrab based on that, because I'm 99% sure im wrong about one of them, but LoMo was spewed town hard by Nutella, so i wouldnt shoot LoMo, it would have to be the crab

[Guillotine]

Guillo vs. Mac III: The Final Battle.

Dayvig Guillo

Yes please.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Jay are you trying to break the site post count record lol

Thankfully I think tutuu put that well out of reach. It does look like I’m headed for my third 1,000 burger though.

[Guillotine]

I mean i rather bet shot by the despetado.

[MacDougall]

Guillo didn't you quit a game on here because the mod build wasn't to your liking once?

Maybe you should stop making reads based on your expectation of how mods think. Not everyone uses a stencil to make games.

[MacDougall]

Jay are you trying to break the site post count record lol

Thankfully I think tutuu put that well out of reach. It does look like I’m headed for my third 1,000 burger though.

If you stop now I promise to nk you

[MacDougall]

what game did tutuu break the rekkid in?

[Guillotine]

Gavial deserves respect for his play in this game. He sacrificed himself so that I may carry on (and it’s reasonably possible Dana did the same thing ). Not everyone would make that selfless decision.

Gavial deserves respect for his play in all games. The way people refer here about him sucks.

[MacDougall]

I mean i rather bet shot by the despetado.

Didn't you say Sloonei was faking?

[Seanzie]

@Guillotine how do you feel about Allcrab?

I'd shoot there to clear doubts about town having two watchers, the shot i would perform on Martin to clear the hypothesis that we have two town healers, because i dont believe that.

This isn't really a read. Do you think Allcrab is town? Mafia? If you have a stance, why?

Hmm look i think LoMo is town and i dont think there are two town watchers. So I'd shoot AllCrab based on that, because I'm 99% sure im wrong about one of them, but LoMo was spewed town hard by Nutella, so i wouldnt shoot LoMo, it would have to be the crab

Okay. Remove his claim from the equation. Do you have any thoughts on Allcrab now?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I mean i rather bet shot by the despetado.

If you’re town then just having Sloonei off himself to affirm that won’t be very beneficial to the town cause. It could be detrimental.

Let’s kill mafia.

[Guillotine]

Gavial deserves respect for his play in this game. He sacrificed himself so that I may carry on (and it’s reasonably possible Dana did the same thing ). Not everyone would make that selfless decision.

I wouldn't.

Neither would I.

[MacDougall]

Gavial deserves respect for his play in this game. He sacrificed himself so that I may carry on (and it’s reasonably possible Dana did the same thing ). Not everyone would make that selfless decision.

Gavial deserves respect for his play in all games. The way people refer here about him sucks.

Nah he brings it on himself and also him and also some people here know him from his past forum where it was much of the same stuff.

I like the dude though.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

what game did tutuu break the rekkid in?

2020 GOC

[Guillotine]

I mean i rather bet shot by the despetado.

If you’re town then just having Sloonei off himself to affirm that won’t be very beneficial to the town cause. It could be detrimental.

Let’s kill mafia.

I am a town Mason and im getting scummy push back. What do you think about that?

[MacDougall]

I mean i rather bet shot by the despetado.

If you’re town then just having Sloonei off himself to affirm that won’t be very beneficial to the town cause. It could be detrimental.

Let’s kill mafia.

Sloonei is overrated. I'd rather a confirmed Guillo.

[MacDougall]

I mean i rather bet shot by the despetado.

If you’re town then just having Sloonei off himself to affirm that won’t be very beneficial to the town cause. It could be detrimental.

Let’s kill mafia.

I am a town Mason and im getting scummy push back. What do you think about that?

Take a shower.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I mean i rather bet shot by the despetado.

If you’re town then just having Sloonei off himself to affirm that won’t be very beneficial to the town cause. It could be detrimental.

Let’s kill mafia.

I am a town Mason and im getting scummy push back. What do you think about that?

I think you’ve made it difficult for anyone to take a Guillotine role claim seriously.

[Guillotine]

@Guillotine how do you feel about Allcrab?

I'd shoot there to clear doubts about town having two watchers, the shot i would perform on Martin to clear the hypothesis that we have two town healers, because i dont believe that.

This isn't really a read. Do you think Allcrab is town? Mafia? If you have a stance, why?

Hmm look i think LoMo is town and i dont think there are two town watchers. So I'd shoot AllCrab based on that, because I'm 99% sure im wrong about one of them, but LoMo was spewed town hard by Nutella, so i wouldnt shoot LoMo, it would have to be the crab

Okay. Remove his claim from the equation. Do you have any thoughts on Allcrab now?

I dont, i havent really focused on him to be honest. Ive read him like i e read everyone but it's been like in autopilot mode. It's like i told Belzy when we clash, we are the majority and i have to trust other townies will help catch scum too, i dont have the time or the state of mind to read everyone, so i gotta trust my townies they will help me reading and casing the people i cant.

[Guillotine]

IfAll rad is a woman, i apologize in advance for not getting the pronouns right. Its hard to remember, i have to play with a player several times to remember

[Seanzie]

So I've been thinking about Guillo's mason claim... I personally think he is full of it, and I am really starting to think Guillo is just a wolf, but...

Abstract away from the game, is there a strong reason for a mason to not come forward if their partner does as well? I've never seen a single mason claim before (unless their partner dies, but that is a different story), and I think in general it is subobptimal to not have the whole masonry claim at once since it just invites confusion, doubt, and tinfoil.

If there isn't a strong reason for a second mason to not claim, I think we should push Guillo. Worst case scenerio, it causes the other mason to claim (which again I think is just the optimal play, but want to hear from others), best case scenerio, Guillo is just a scrambling wolf and we can lunch him.

[MacDougall]

I don't believe mason claim. Imagine if the Mafia hit the masons with the cupid. Completely ruins their 1 shot KP. He's definitely just lying again.

[Seanzie]

IfAll rad is a woman, i apologize in advance for not getting the pronouns right. Its hard to remember, i have to play with a player several times to remember

I believe Allcrab uses he/him pronouns, but they don't have them listed here so I don't want to say that for certain.

[MacDougall]

Fable is male yes

[Seanzie]

I don't believe mason claim. Imagine if the Mafia hit the masons with the cupid. Completely ruins their 1 shot KP. He's definitely just lying again.

Do you think the fact that he is likely lying again is scum-indicative? Sometimes fake info is beneficial to town, but I don't see it here.

Since you wolfed with him, I'd value your thoughts.

[Guillotine]

I mean i rather bet shot by the despetado.

If you’re town then just having Sloonei off himself to affirm that won’t be very beneficial to the town cause. It could be detrimental.

Let’s kill mafia.

I am a town Mason and im getting scummy push back. What do you think about that?

I think you’ve made it difficult for anyone to take a Guillotine role claim seriously.

Ok so why am i getting that kind of mistrust, but not Alison who has fake claim a couple of times tooand she is yet to claim her real role, which will also be her third if i remember correctly.

Why us Alison being townread even though she has FPS and not me. Is it because maybe i have been close or i am close to finding out a few mafia?
Like town's job is to look beyond the claims, see where and how it comes from. My fake claims ensured my survival and got me info.

Seanzie says that i claimed i killed all role types on day 1, i did and i would have continued to claim so because on Day 1,i was the first to find and push Nutella to her demise a d i was widely townread and heavily spewed town by Nutella's flip. In my mind, i was going to be the night kill so i claimed reflexive killer to prevent that, there was no reason for any town to check me anyway on night 1.

@Seanzie why would any cops or investigatives would want to check me if i was being townread by everyone?

I made sure to get townread to claim that and it worked. Ive done it before and it worked, as yown.

[MacDougall]

I don't believe mason claim. Imagine if the Mafia hit the masons with the cupid. Completely ruins their 1 shot KP. He's definitely just lying again.

Do you think the fact that he is likely lying again is scum-indicative? Sometimes fake info is beneficial to town, but I don't see it here.

Since you wolfed with him, I'd value your thoughts.

its gone past the point of being townie now

[Guillotine]

I don't believe mason claim. Imagine if the Mafia hit the masons with the cupid. Completely ruins their 1 shot KP. He's definitely just lying again.

Im not lying and what you are doing is trying to bait the other Mason out. This is how you role fish, you did it in Spiderverse.

[MacDougall]

I don't believe mason claim. Imagine if the Mafia hit the masons with the cupid. Completely ruins their 1 shot KP. He's definitely just lying again.

Im not lying and what you are doing is trying to bait the other Mason out. This is how you role fish, you did it in Spiderverse.

you think mod puts masons in this game with the cupid?

[Guillotine]

So I've been thinking about Guillo's mason claim... I personally think he is full of it, and I am really starting to think Guillo is just a wolf, but...

Abstract away from the game, is there a strong reason for a mason to not come forward if their partner does as well? I've never seen a single mason claim before (unless their partner dies, but that is a different story), and I think in general it is subobptimal to not have the whole masonry claim at once since it just invites confusion, doubt, and tinfoil.

If there isn't a strong reason for a second mason to not claim, I think we should push Guillo. Worst case scenerio, it causes the other mason to claim (which again I think is just the optimal play, but want to hear from others), best case scenerio, Guillo is just a scrambling wolf and we can lunch him.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Look i know i will flip Town Mason if i get yeeted but this is straightup wolf mindset.

[Guillotine]

I don't believe mason claim. Imagine if the Mafia hit the masons with the cupid. Completely ruins their 1 shot KP. He's definitely just lying again.

Im not lying and what you are doing is trying to bait the other Mason out. This is how you role fish, you did it in Spiderverse.

you think mod puts masons in this game with the cupid?

Well the game is about coup,es, dates etc isnt? Co enon bruh! What's going with you? Wake the hell up!

[Guillotine]

@Sloonei if you have that shot shoot me already, we got a lot info, clear me and lets kill the deepwolves.

[Seanzie]

I mean i rather bet shot by the despetado.

If you’re town then just having Sloonei off himself to affirm that won’t be very beneficial to the town cause. It could be detrimental.

Let’s kill mafia.

I am a town Mason and im getting scummy push back. What do you think about that?

I think you’ve made it difficult for anyone to take a Guillotine role claim seriously.

Ok so why am i getting that kind of mistrust, but not Alison who has fake claim a couple of times tooand she is yet to claim her real role, which will also be her third if i remember correctly.

Why us Alison being townread even though she has FPS and not me. Is it because maybe i have been close or i am close to finding out a few mafia?
Like town's job is to look beyond the claims, see where and how it comes from. My fake claims ensured my survival and got me info.

Seanzie says that i claimed i killed all role types on day 1, i did and i would have continued to claim so because on Day 1,i was the first to find and push Nutella to her demise a d i was widely townread and heavily spewed town by Nutella's flip. In my mind, i was going to be the night kill so i claimed reflexive killer to prevent that, there was no reason for any town to check me anyway on night 1.

@Seanzie why would any cops or investigatives would want to check me if i was being townread by everyone?

I made sure to get townread to claim that and it worked. Ive done it before and it worked, as yown.

Pretty sure Guillo is admitting TMI on Nutella here. He apparently already considered himself townspewed by Nutella before her flip, even when many people seemed to think Nutella was a miss in twilight.

[Guillotine]

I don't believe mason claim. Imagine if the Mafia hit the masons with the cupid. Completely ruins their 1 shot KP. He's definitely just lying again.

Do you think the fact that he is likely lying again is scum-indicative? Sometimes fake info is beneficial to town, but I don't see it here.

Since you wolfed with him, I'd value your thoughts.

its gone past the point of being townie now

If you are gonna accuse me of game throwing then tell it to my face with a case. How the hell am i game throwing here?

[Allcrab]

IfAll rad is a woman, i apologize in advance for not getting the pronouns right. Its hard to remember, i have to play with a player several times to remember

I'm male but I really don't care about pronouns, you're fine lol.

[Seanzie]

So I've been thinking about Guillo's mason claim... I personally think he is full of it, and I am really starting to think Guillo is just a wolf, but...

Abstract away from the game, is there a strong reason for a mason to not come forward if their partner does as well? I've never seen a single mason claim before (unless their partner dies, but that is a different story), and I think in general it is subobptimal to not have the whole masonry claim at once since it just invites confusion, doubt, and tinfoil.

If there isn't a strong reason for a second mason to not claim, I think we should push Guillo. Worst case scenerio, it causes the other mason to claim (which again I think is just the optimal play, but want to hear from others), best case scenerio, Guillo is just a scrambling wolf and we can lunch him.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Look i know i will flip Town Mason if i get yeeted but this is straightup wolf mindset.

If you're town mason, why are you worried about getting yeeted?

[Allcrab]

At what point do we start pressuring sloonei to shoot?

I kinda wanna move things along.

[Guillotine]

I mean i rather bet shot by the despetado.

If you’re town then just having Sloonei off himself to affirm that won’t be very beneficial to the town cause. It could be detrimental.

Let’s kill mafia.

I am a town Mason and im getting scummy push back. What do you think about that?

I think you’ve made it difficult for anyone to take a Guillotine role claim seriously.

Ok so why am i getting that kind of mistrust, but not Alison who has fake claim a couple of times tooand she is yet to claim her real role, which will also be her third if i remember correctly.

Why us Alison being townread even though she has FPS and not me. Is it because maybe i have been close or i am close to finding out a few mafia?
Like town's job is to look beyond the claims, see where and how it comes from. My fake claims ensured my survival and got me info.

Seanzie says that i claimed i killed all role types on day 1, i did and i would have continued to claim so because on Day 1,i was the first to find and push Nutella to her demise a d i was widely townread and heavily spewed town by Nutella's flip. In my mind, i was going to be the night kill so i claimed reflexive killer to prevent that, there was no reason for any town to check me anyway on night 1.

@Seanzie why would any cops or investigatives would want to check me if i was being townread by everyone?

I made sure to get townread to claim that and it worked. Ive done it before and it worked, as yown.

Pretty sure Guillo is admitting TMI on Nutella here. He apparently already considered himself townspewed by Nutella before her flip, even when many people seemed to think Nutella was a miss in twilight.

What the fuck? I scumread Nutella and got her yeeted, if scumreading Nutella is TMI, then you should be scumread for TMI on Owner! HAAAAAA

This guy is scum! Yeet Seanzie! We got the deepwolf!

To my mason partner who never believed me, i scum read seanzie on multiple occasions. This guy is desperate for my flip, scum dont know whst to do!


SLOONEI SHOOT ME ALREADY SO I CAN BE INNO CHILD AND SEND SEANZIE TO THE PT!

[Guillotine]

So I've been thinking about Guillo's mason claim... I personally think he is full of it, and I am really starting to think Guillo is just a wolf, but...

Abstract away from the game, is there a strong reason for a mason to not come forward if their partner does as well? I've never seen a single mason claim before (unless their partner dies, but that is a different story), and I think in general it is subobptimal to not have the whole masonry claim at once since it just invites confusion, doubt, and tinfoil.

If there isn't a strong reason for a second mason to not claim, I think we should push Guillo. Worst case scenerio, it causes the other mason to claim (which again I think is just the optimal play, but want to hear from others), best case scenerio, Guillo is just a scrambling wolf and we can lunch him.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Look i know i will flip Town Mason if i get yeeted but this is straightup wolf mindset.

If you're town mason, why are you worried about getting yeeted?

Are you kidding me? What kind of fuck up question is this, be ause i wanna keep playing, be ause i wanna catch scum, be ause i wanna keep denying scum chances to win.

[Seanzie]

I mean i rather bet shot by the despetado.

If you’re town then just having Sloonei off himself to affirm that won’t be very beneficial to the town cause. It could be detrimental.

Let’s kill mafia.

I am a town Mason and im getting scummy push back. What do you think about that?

I think you’ve made it difficult for anyone to take a Guillotine role claim seriously.

Ok so why am i getting that kind of mistrust, but not Alison who has fake claim a couple of times tooand she is yet to claim her real role, which will also be her third if i remember correctly.

Why us Alison being townread even though she has FPS and not me. Is it because maybe i have been close or i am close to finding out a few mafia?
Like town's job is to look beyond the claims, see where and how it comes from. My fake claims ensured my survival and got me info.

Seanzie says that i claimed i killed all role types on day 1, i did and i would have continued to claim so because on Day 1,i was the first to find and push Nutella to her demise a d i was widely townread and heavily spewed town by Nutella's flip. In my mind, i was going to be the night kill so i claimed reflexive killer to prevent that, there was no reason for any town to check me anyway on night 1.

@Seanzie why would any cops or investigatives would want to check me if i was being townread by everyone?

I made sure to get townread to claim that and it worked. Ive done it before and it worked, as yown.

Also, just to highlight the differences between pro-town fake claiming, and whatever the crap Guillo is doing, from what I can tell, Alison's fakes (and my own fake on Actv) have all followed essentially this outline:

1.) Fakeclaim a specific thing that forces a reaction from a specific person.

2.) Wait for that reaction, and some follow up reactions from the thread.

3.) Rescind the claim as soon as those reactions have been gotten to not waste threadtime, extra town points if the rescinding came of your own free will, not caused by pressure from the thread.

4.) Give an analysis of the reactions gained from the fakeclaim.

^This approach is generally towny and has clear pro-town motive. What Guillo has been doing is not towny and has much more scum motive than town motive if you ask me.

[Seanzie]

I mean i rather bet shot by the despetado.

If you’re town then just having Sloonei off himself to affirm that won’t be very beneficial to the town cause. It could be detrimental.

Let’s kill mafia.

I am a town Mason and im getting scummy push back. What do you think about that?

I think you’ve made it difficult for anyone to take a Guillotine role claim seriously.

Ok so why am i getting that kind of mistrust, but not Alison who has fake claim a couple of times tooand she is yet to claim her real role, which will also be her third if i remember correctly.

Why us Alison being townread even though she has FPS and not me. Is it because maybe i have been close or i am close to finding out a few mafia?
Like town's job is to look beyond the claims, see where and how it comes from. My fake claims ensured my survival and got me info.

Seanzie says that i claimed i killed all role types on day 1, i did and i would have continued to claim so because on Day 1,i was the first to find and push Nutella to her demise a d i was widely townread and heavily spewed town by Nutella's flip. In my mind, i was going to be the night kill so i claimed reflexive killer to prevent that, there was no reason for any town to check me anyway on night 1.

@Seanzie why would any cops or investigatives would want to check me if i was being townread by everyone?

I made sure to get townread to claim that and it worked. Ive done it before and it worked, as yown.

Pretty sure Guillo is admitting TMI on Nutella here. He apparently already considered himself townspewed by Nutella before her flip, even when many people seemed to think Nutella was a miss in twilight.

What the fuck? I scumread Nutella and got her yeeted, if scumreading Nutella is TMI, then you should be scumread for TMI on Owner! HAAAAAA

This guy is scum! Yeet Seanzie! We got the deepwolf!

To my mason partner who never believed me, i scum read seanzie on multiple occasions. This guy is desperate for my flip, scum dont know whst to do!


SLOONEI SHOOT ME ALREADY SO I CAN BE INNO CHILD AND SEND SEANZIE TO THE PT!

You're either not getting my point, or just purposefully ignoring it. Scumreading Nutella is not TMI necessarily. Knowing Nutella is going to flip wolf, and acting as if you already have townclout from a wolf flip before Nutella flips, when most of the rest of the thread was thinking Nutella was flipping town is TMI.

[Guillotine]

I mean i rather bet shot by the despetado.

If you’re town then just having Sloonei off himself to affirm that won’t be very beneficial to the town cause. It could be detrimental.

Let’s kill mafia.

I am a town Mason and im getting scummy push back. What do you think about that?

I think you’ve made it difficult for anyone to take a Guillotine role claim seriously.

Ok so why am i getting that kind of mistrust, but not Alison who has fake claim a couple of times tooand she is yet to claim her real role, which will also be her third if i remember correctly.

Why us Alison being townread even though she has FPS and not me. Is it because maybe i have been close or i am close to finding out a few mafia?
Like town's job is to look beyond the claims, see where and how it comes from. My fake claims ensured my survival and got me info.

Seanzie says that i claimed i killed all role types on day 1, i did and i would have continued to claim so because on Day 1,i was the first to find and push Nutella to her demise a d i was widely townread and heavily spewed town by Nutella's flip. In my mind, i was going to be the night kill so i claimed reflexive killer to prevent that, there was no reason for any town to check me anyway on night 1.

@Seanzie why would any cops or investigatives would want to check me if i was being townread by everyone?

I made sure to get townread to claim that and it worked. Ive done it before and it worked, as yown.

Also, just to highlight the differences between pro-town fake claiming, and whatever the crap Guillo is doing, from what I can tell, Alison's fakes (and my own fake on Actv) have all followed essentially this outline:

1.) Fakeclaim a specific thing that forces a reaction from a specific person.

2.) Wait for that reaction, and some follow up reactions from the thread.

3.) Rescind the claim as soon as those reactions have been gotten to not waste threadtime, extra town points if the rescinding came of your own free will, not caused by pressure from the thread.

4.) Give an analysis of the reactions gained from the fakeclaim.

^This approach is generally towny and has clear pro-town motive. What Guillo has been doing is not towny and has much more scum motive than town motive if you ask me.

Bruh. Do you honestly believe i rescinded cause of pressure. Have you been in this game?
Havent you played with me before? Do you think i give a flying cow about Macdougalls and your pressure. I rescinded because it was time to do so, i rescinded because i got cold feet YOLOing JJJ to death, because he might have been protected by Dana.

[Seanzie]

So I've been thinking about Guillo's mason claim... I personally think he is full of it, and I am really starting to think Guillo is just a wolf, but...

Abstract away from the game, is there a strong reason for a mason to not come forward if their partner does as well? I've never seen a single mason claim before (unless their partner dies, but that is a different story), and I think in general it is subobptimal to not have the whole masonry claim at once since it just invites confusion, doubt, and tinfoil.

If there isn't a strong reason for a second mason to not claim, I think we should push Guillo. Worst case scenerio, it causes the other mason to claim (which again I think is just the optimal play, but want to hear from others), best case scenerio, Guillo is just a scrambling wolf and we can lunch him.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Look i know i will flip Town Mason if i get yeeted but this is straightup wolf mindset.

If you're town mason, why are you worried about getting yeeted?

Are you kidding me? What kind of fuck up question is this, be ause i wanna keep playing, be ause i wanna catch scum, be ause i wanna keep denying scum chances to win.

So, you supposedly have a mason buddy that can claim and save your life. Masons do not fear the Gallows.