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[Allcrab]

Ah no but shooting me would be problematic for a lot of people wouldn't it because if I get shot I'm not gonna die and if I don't die people know my read on bunny is legit and if my read on bunny is legit then let's face it she might as well have a green check on her and then a lot of people's shitty reads come crashing down on their heads now don't they?

[Alison]

How about Sloonei shoots orangecrush and I believe your read on bunny anyway because you asked so nicely?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Ah no but shooting me would be problematic for a lot of people wouldn't it because if I get shot I'm not gonna die and if I don't die people know my read on bunny is legit and if my read on bunny is legit then let's face it she might as well have a green check on her and then a lot of people's shitty reads come crashing down on their heads now don't they?

Yes you’re wonderful, now please solve something

[Allcrab]

How about Sloonei shoots orangecrush and I believe your read on bunny anyway because you asked so nicely?

Acceptable.

[Allcrab]

Ah no but shooting me would be problematic for a lot of people wouldn't it because if I get shot I'm not gonna die and if I don't die people know my read on bunny is legit and if my read on bunny is legit then let's face it she might as well have a green check on her and then a lot of people's shitty reads come crashing down on their heads now don't they?

Yes you’re wonderful, now please solve something

I have in fact I haven't had a wrong read yet just nobody is really interested in listening to me.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Ah no but shooting me would be problematic for a lot of people wouldn't it because if I get shot I'm not gonna die and if I don't die people know my read on bunny is legit and if my read on bunny is legit then let's face it she might as well have a green check on her and then a lot of people's shitty reads come crashing down on their heads now don't they?

Yes you’re wonderful, now please solve something

I have in fact I haven't had a wrong read yet just nobody is really interested in listening to me.

I don’t see anyone chopping bad bumny.

[Allcrab]

now in before I get accused of TMI for the 7th time.

[Allcrab]

Ah no but shooting me would be problematic for a lot of people wouldn't it because if I get shot I'm not gonna die and if I don't die people know my read on bunny is legit and if my read on bunny is legit then let's face it she might as well have a green check on her and then a lot of people's shitty reads come crashing down on their heads now don't they?

Yes you’re wonderful, now please solve something

I have in fact I haven't had a wrong read yet just nobody is really interested in listening to me.

I don’t see anyone chopping bad bumny.

Yes but I've had to be very loud about it also I've put out reads on everyone.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Which other Allcrab read do you think is being or has been ignored

[Allcrab]

Which other Allcrab read do you think is being or has been ignored

Hawk got ignored pretty hard.

As of people who are still alive?

Act is the one I feel strongest about.

[Allcrab]

Which other Allcrab read do you think is being or has been ignored

Hawk got ignored pretty hard.

As of people who are still alive?

Act is the one I feel strongest about.

After that is probably sloonei tbh.

[Allcrab]

Also kinda what people's reads on lomo and if us not having quite the same role changes their thoughts at all.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Which other Allcrab read do you think is being or has been ignored

Hawk got ignored pretty hard.

As of people who are still alive?

Act is the one I feel strongest about.

After that is probably sloonei tbh.

I can definitely get on board with Act.

Do you think there’s still a mechanical explanation out there for the non-kill of Night 1 apart from Sloonei’s vest?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Also kinda what people's reads on lomo and if us not having quite the same role changes their thoughts at all.

To be clear: are you claiming a full watcher with no limited shots?

[Allcrab]

Also kinda what people's reads on lomo and if us not having quite the same role changes their thoughts at all.

To be clear: are you claiming a full watcher with no limited shots?

Correct.

[Seanzie]

Ah no but shooting me would be problematic for a lot of people wouldn't it because if I get shot I'm not gonna die and if I don't die people know my read on bunny is legit and if my read on bunny is legit then let's face it she might as well have a green check on her and then a lot of people's shitty reads come crashing down on their heads now don't they?

Yes you’re wonderful, now please solve something

I have in fact I haven't had a wrong read yet just nobody is really interested in listening to me.

Well, I rarely ever see you explaining your reads, and I've asked you a few questions to help me get a read on you, but you've either ignored them or answered flippantly, so I'm not just going to blindly trust the reads of someone that is a big fat ? on my own reads list.

[Allcrab]

Which other Allcrab read do you think is being or has been ignored

Hawk got ignored pretty hard.

As of people who are still alive?

Act is the one I feel strongest about.

After that is probably sloonei tbh.

I can definitely get on board with Act.

Do you think there’s still a mechanical explanation out there for the non-kill of Night 1 apart from Sloonei’s vest?

I still think a doctor is likely, I don't see a reason to shoot sloonei n1 they weren't that memorable.

[Seanzie]

Which other Allcrab read do you think is being or has been ignored

Hawk got ignored pretty hard.

As of people who are still alive?

Act is the one I feel strongest about.

After that is probably sloonei tbh.

I can definitely get on board with Act.

Do you think there’s still a mechanical explanation out there for the non-kill of Night 1 apart from Sloonei’s vest?

I think with Sloonei's recent claim, his alignment should be clear to us by EoD, so idk why we should speculate further about his alignment or about if the wolves need to worry more about future NKs. I don't see the benefit to town of such speculation.

[Allcrab]

Which other Allcrab read do you think is being or has been ignored

Hawk got ignored pretty hard.

As of people who are still alive?

Act is the one I feel strongest about.

After that is probably sloonei tbh.

I can definitely get on board with Act.

Do you think there’s still a mechanical explanation out there for the non-kill of Night 1 apart from Sloonei’s vest?

I still think a doctor is likely, I don't see a reason to shoot sloonei n1 they weren't that memorable.

I think if it is because of a vest and sloonei is village that suggests multiple wolves on the syndicate side of things IMO because then I would classify that under SPK.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Also kinda what people's reads on lomo and if us not having quite the same role changes their thoughts at all.

To be clear: are you claiming a full watcher with no limited shots?

Correct.

And you’re completely cool with lost monkey’s role being a weak version of yours? Not meant to be a butthead question, just looking to understand Allcrab better.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Which other Allcrab read do you think is being or has been ignored

Hawk got ignored pretty hard.

As of people who are still alive?

Act is the one I feel strongest about.

After that is probably sloonei tbh.

I can definitely get on board with Act.

Do you think there’s still a mechanical explanation out there for the non-kill of Night 1 apart from Sloonei’s vest?

I think with Sloonei's recent claim, his alignment should be clear to us by EoD, so idk why we should speculate further about his alignment or about if the wolves need to worry more about future NKs. I don't see the benefit to town of such speculation.

It’s good to know why non-Sloonei people think of Sloonei as they do.

[Seanzie]

Which other Allcrab read do you think is being or has been ignored

Hawk got ignored pretty hard.

As of people who are still alive?

Act is the one I feel strongest about.

After that is probably sloonei tbh.

I can definitely get on board with Act.

Do you think there’s still a mechanical explanation out there for the non-kill of Night 1 apart from Sloonei’s vest?

I still think a doctor is likely, I don't see a reason to shoot sloonei n1 they weren't that memorable.

I think if it is because of a vest and sloonei is village that suggests multiple wolves on the syndicate side of things IMO because then I would classify that under SPK.

Sloonei is the mafia world champion, so idk if it would take that much influence from TS folk to get a N1 kill there even if he wasn't super hot D1.

[Seanzie]

Which other Allcrab read do you think is being or has been ignored

Hawk got ignored pretty hard.

As of people who are still alive?

Act is the one I feel strongest about.

After that is probably sloonei tbh.

I can definitely get on board with Act.

Do you think there’s still a mechanical explanation out there for the non-kill of Night 1 apart from Sloonei’s vest?

I think with Sloonei's recent claim, his alignment should be clear to us by EoD, so idk why we should speculate further about his alignment or about if the wolves need to worry more about future NKs. I don't see the benefit to town of such speculation.

It’s good to know why non-Sloonei people think of Sloonei as they do.

Okay, asking about Sloonei, fine, fair enough. We probably shouldn't talk about if there is some other protective role out there though. Town may have picked up on things that scum didn't and there is no reason to amplify those things if they exist.

[Allcrab]

Also kinda what people's reads on lomo and if us not having quite the same role changes their thoughts at all.

To be clear: are you claiming a full watcher with no limited shots?

Correct.

And you’re completely cool with lost monkey’s role being a weak version of yours? Not meant to be a butthead question, just looking to understand Allcrab better.

Nah it cool.

Again don't see the value in that being a wolf role and he was 100% telling the truth because I got same results that they did but as I've said I could be completely wrong on that but it's a as you say solving the hosts more than lomo kinda thing although idk he's been kinda cool with me and my claim and feel like he wouldn't as a wolf.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Do you have an immediate perspective of orangecrush, Allcrab? You’ve likely said something already, but it is difficult to search by phone.

[Guillotine]

Hello. I was a 1-shot universal backup. Now I am a 1-shot desperado. I wanted this to happen yesterday, but a roleblock prevented me.

I intend to shoot today. I may or may not still be protected by LC’s vest. So, who do I shoot?

Shoot guillo

Yah shoot me and clear me baby! I cant wait to be PGO Ino Child!

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Anyone want to take a stab at a poisoner read? First name that comes to mind?

[MacDougall]

Anyone want to take a stab at a poisoner read? First name that comes to mind?

JaggedJimmyJay

[Allcrab]

Do you have an immediate perspective of orangecrush, Allcrab? You’ve likely said something already, but it is difficult to search by phone.

Orange is kinda null to me themselves but agree with alison's take on sonny them seeming less motivated as more wolves died that being said I find act's posts towards orange extremely uncharitable and it's making me concerned, it could be a bus but that seems dangerous and this stage.

[Guillotine]

If Martin is mafia I think he’s a mafia healer. It’d essentially mean we got yesterday backwards.

I don’t think this situation is a red check or anything like that. If Martin can’t be town, then Allcrab/lost monkey can’t both be town either (hence Nanook’s perspective).

I think hawk left us with an important legacy point though: if the duplicates are just auto-split between alignments, then that’s outing. It’s a silly way to build a game, and I think going that way by default is iffy.

I do think Allcrab is independently suspicious and that a valid case can be made for Martin. So the conclusion is okay even if I don’t vibe with the process.

I think OC is the most independently suspicious player in the game though, and by a decent margin. Bad bunny would be up there if not for Allcrab conflicts.

I dont remember if the host adviced against claiming in the op or sign ups. Did they? (Legit question).

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Anyone want to take a stab at a poisoner read? First name that comes to mind?

JaggedJimmyJay

Knew someone would do that

[JaggedJimmyJay]

“Role claiming is allowed, but do so at your own risk”

[Allcrab]

Anyone want to take a stab at a poisoner read? First name that comes to mind?

JaggedJimmyJay

NGL I kinda have thought this but JJJ been sticking their neck out too far to be 3p.

GTH I think it's nanook.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Worth looking at Alison, Long Con, and bad bunny for any common themes in reads that might motivate poisons.

[Actvscenei]

Also kinda what people's reads on lomo and if us not having quite the same role changes their thoughts at all.

To be clear: are you claiming a full watcher with no limited shots?

Correct.

And you’re completely cool with lost monkey’s role being a weak version of yours? Not meant to be a butthead question, just looking to understand Allcrab better.

Nah it cool.

Again don't see the value in that being a wolf role and he was 100% telling the truth because I got same results that they did but as I've said I could be completely wrong on that but it's a as you say solving the hosts more than lomo kinda thing although idk he's been kinda cool with me and my claim and feel like he wouldn't as a wolf.

I don’t think there would be two watchers in the game, one being x-shot and one being full use. That feels odd to me. I know you say you don’t see a scum reason to have a watcher, and I can agree with that. But can you explain the logics of town having two watchers like this?

[Allcrab]

Also kinda what people's reads on lomo and if us not having quite the same role changes their thoughts at all.

To be clear: are you claiming a full watcher with no limited shots?

Correct.

And you’re completely cool with lost monkey’s role being a weak version of yours? Not meant to be a butthead question, just looking to understand Allcrab better.

Nah it cool.

Again don't see the value in that being a wolf role and he was 100% telling the truth because I got same results that they did but as I've said I could be completely wrong on that but it's a as you say solving the hosts more than lomo kinda thing although idk he's been kinda cool with me and my claim and feel like he wouldn't as a wolf.

I don’t think there would be two watchers in the game, one being x-shot and one being full use. That feels odd to me. I know you say you don’t see a scum reason to have a watcher, and I can agree with that. But can you explain the logics of town having two watchers like this?

Red herring plant by the hosts to punish us for trying to solve mechanically.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I am very wary of such red herrings because I implement them all the time as a host.

[Actvscenei]

Also kinda what people's reads on lomo and if us not having quite the same role changes their thoughts at all.

To be clear: are you claiming a full watcher with no limited shots?

Correct.

And you’re completely cool with lost monkey’s role being a weak version of yours? Not meant to be a butthead question, just looking to understand Allcrab better.

Nah it cool.

Again don't see the value in that being a wolf role and he was 100% telling the truth because I got same results that they did but as I've said I could be completely wrong on that but it's a as you say solving the hosts more than lomo kinda thing although idk he's been kinda cool with me and my claim and feel like he wouldn't as a wolf.

I don’t think there would be two watchers in the game, one being x-shot and one being full use. That feels odd to me. I know you say you don’t see a scum reason to have a watcher, and I can agree with that. But can you explain the logics of town having two watchers like this?

Red herring plant by the hosts to punish us for trying to solve mechanically.

And you think they did the same thing with healers?

[MacDougall]

Anyone want to take a stab at a poisoner read? First name that comes to mind?

JaggedJimmyJay

NGL I kinda have thought this but JJJ been sticking their neck out too far to be 3p.

GTH I think it's nanook.

Could be. Or Actv.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Mechanics shouldn’t be entirely ignored, but the most important thing for assessing anyone here generally is classical purity or suspicion.

[Sloonei]

@Sloonei who do you want to fire at?

Orangecrush is the first name on my mind, but I have not put it any work to develop reads on people who haven’t been right in front of me this game, and if I was gonna shoot on my desire alone then I wouldn’t be claiming like this.

My shot is a second elimination vote for the day. I am resolved regardless of the outcome. Who else do we want resolved?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Anyone want to take a stab at a poisoner read? First name that comes to mind?

JaggedJimmyJay

NGL I kinda have thought this but JJJ been sticking their neck out too far to be 3p.

GTH I think it's nanook.

Could be. Or Actv.

Act was the first name for me. My reasons for that are as follows:

Spoiler: show

no reasons

[MacDougall]

Anyone want to take a stab at a poisoner read? First name that comes to mind?

JaggedJimmyJay

NGL I kinda have thought this but JJJ been sticking their neck out too far to be 3p.

GTH I think it's nanook.

Could be. Or Actv.

Act was the first name for me. My reasons for that are as follows:

Spoiler: show

no reasons

she has a sense of desperation mixed with desire to low fly

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I do think Sloonei’s choice needs careful consideration. We’re likely to kill three people this day phase:

Sloonei/his target + bad bunny + chop

[MacDougall]

Anyone want to take a stab at a poisoner read? First name that comes to mind?

JaggedJimmyJay

NGL I kinda have thought this but JJJ been sticking their neck out too far to be 3p.

GTH I think it's nanook.

Could be. Or Actv.

Act was the first name for me. My reasons for that are as follows:

Spoiler: show

no reasons

she has a sense of desperation mixed with desire to low fly

ie. the 3p quotient

[MacDougall]

I do think Sloonei’s choice needs careful consideration. We’re likely to kill three people this day phase:

Sloonei/his target + bad bunny + chop

Sloonei should shoot Jay so we can get one of you as a confirmed town and sheep you. Ez wins.

[Actvscenei]

I am very wary of such red herrings because I implement them all the time as a host.

I’ve never played a game that used red herring mechanics (not saying they don’t exist lol). Is this a common thing on this site?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

If Martin is mafia I think he’s a mafia healer. It’d essentially mean we got yesterday backwards.

I don’t think this situation is a red check or anything like that. If Martin can’t be town, then Allcrab/lost monkey can’t both be town either (hence Nanook’s perspective).

I think hawk left us with an important legacy point though: if the duplicates are just auto-split between alignments, then that’s outing. It’s a silly way to build a game, and I think going that way by default is iffy.

I do think Allcrab is independently suspicious and that a valid case can be made for Martin. So the conclusion is okay even if I don’t vibe with the process.

I think OC is the most independently suspicious player in the game though, and by a decent margin. Bad bunny would be up there if not for Allcrab conflicts.

I think dupes are split among home site not alignment and the two watcher thing isn't why id kill crabs

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I do think Sloonei’s choice needs careful consideration. We’re likely to kill three people this day phase:

Sloonei/his target + bad bunny + chop

Sloonei should shoot Jay so we can get one of you as a confirmed town and sheep you. Ez wins.

Just be brave and sheep anyway.

[MacDougall]

how bout made. what do we think of made?