The Elder Scrolls [GAME OVER]

[Syn]

bit off topic but a bit not.. umm guys.. i am freaked out as all get out. I was going through Flanders iso u know all set to make the case and then I heard a chicken clucking. it scared me to death. I freaking chicken in my room. it is 2:30am as I type this. I can't make this stuff up.

okay. so idk if that means he isn't scum or that means he is.

step aside Ace Marvel's tarot reads

we've got chicken clucking reads now

[Syn]

LOL...well, both pings are one ping...a mention and a quote in the same post.

I feel very wanted! <3

Thank you Daisy!!!

I mouthed off about you! so sorry! owo ♡

but this been a weird nite. I think rl there maybe a chicken trying to murder me is frying my brain. it can't be a chicken.

is this u being a martyr again and that is why you claimed? like don't do that stuff.

nobody's NKing a merchant over a cop or green check unless they are going for a doc dodge

and even then, there are better choices unless they have reason to suspect Tim's underselling his wares by a dangerous extent

[Syn]

LOL...well, both pings are one ping...a mention and a quote in the same post.

I feel very wanted! <3

Thank you Daisy!!!

I mouthed off about you! so sorry! owo ♡

but this been a weird nite. I think rl there maybe a chicken trying to murder me is frying my brain. it can't be a chicken.

is this u being a martyr again and that is why you claimed? like don't do that stuff.

No martyr. I need information, so I trade information. My role isn't going to get me anywhere, including killed, in the short term, but in a setup this complicated I think if the entire town tries to keep all their cards tight to their vest we will probably suffer for it. So I shared what looked like it wouldn't hurt to share to lead the way. This seems blatantly obvious, but with five wolves freely sharing information about their roles and how the shrines responded to them they are at a big advantage in figuring stuff out. Some people are gonna take that as role fishing and get timfoily about it and that's just the way it goes.

Now we know some stuff about some stuff.

From the chaos crowd I think maybe we learned something. A bunch of people went to the Sheogorath shrine. At least three claim to have gotten post gimmick curses for their trouble while TSP got a day off the poll, assuming they are all telling the truth. One possibility is that there is a good benefit assigned, maybe randomly or maybe by some priority system, and everyone else gets fucked with. That would fit Sheogorath, lorewise.

That would also make sense of some other issues, like watcher being way to powerful to just hand out to everyone who goes to a shrine. If there is a shrine handing out watcher boons it might just give one per night and everyone else that goes there gets nothing. Gavail says there is a watcher shrine (Nocturnal), and that he chose to go somewhere else last night. That seems like a bad choice to me, and if a lot of people had that choice available it seems like most would have taken it, but we aren't flooded with watcher reports. So only one gets rewarded? Or a lot of people did get watcher power and no one watched Alison get murdered? Or someone did see Alison get murdered and doesn't want to risk telling us about it? Or Gavail is fake on the claim? Some things seem more plausible there than others.

That's what I have put together on the setup. My own input is that one other person went to the same shrine I did (Sanguine) and I have no idea who, or what they got. If whatever gets handed out there is a "only one gets blessed" thing I think I wouldn't even be eligible so it would just go to them automatically. The only thing I can imagine that might come useful out of that info is if for some reason someone admits to being the other Sanguine visitor and then someone else claims they were there too, because that makes one of the three of us a liar. Probably not happening.

Anyway, I was asleep, and woke up to clean up after a puking dog so now I am wide awake at the most inconvenient of times so I'll maybe read some thread here...although the longer I stay up the more screwed my sleep schedule is gonna get.

it would help if @Long Con and @Gavial want to share notes on which shrine they went to N1, because LC says he expected a track and didn't get one, and Gavial says he got one and used it on NANOOK

i mean, if they have reason to suspect that's a bad idea, then don't, but it would help clarify your working theory

[KZA]

wolves please WIFOM your way in to not killing me or Syn or Scotty or Tim or Daisy or Long Con

they're all being protected and watched, trust me

[Syn]

kza, scottie, syn, DC and mac are my town leans.

Who the heck is DC?

Why are they a town lean?

So you think it is weird that no one else has asked you who this mysterious town lean is? Do you think it means that no one cares about your reads? It seems extremely weird to me.

DC is daisy cloud

[Syn]

kza, scottie, syn, DC and mac are my town leans.

Who the heck is DC?

Why are they a town lean?

So you think it is weird that no one else has asked you who this mysterious town lean is? Do you think it means that no one cares about your reads? It seems extremely weird to me.

Nevermind...DC is Daisy, I get it.

peep me replying to things and then tim answering them himself in between

[Syn]

bit off topic but a bit not.. umm guys.. i am freaked out as all get out. I was going through Flanders iso u know all set to make the case and then I heard a chicken clucking. it scared me to death. I freaking chicken in my room. it is 2:30am as I type this. I can't make this stuff up.

okay. so idk if that means he isn't scum or that means he is.

well I'm not voting Flanders so there u go. I promise you this is real and not some made up thing for the game and theatrics.

scotty. okay so new plan is going to look at my scum leans. Gavial, made and and

then think about monkey, nacho and Enrique, qwags and quin. . those 3 are slankers and last 2 kinda post but don't. doing nothing. a town could be in there. not emoght to lynch them.

I do not like qwags and gavial the most.

I only saw 1 game with Gavial. we both were town. he is playing so different here. he seemed more contributing in last game.

is he going on about sk because he is sk? my tin foily potatoe sheep 1 brain cell left of a brain thinks so but my right toe says I'm wrong.

and Marmot seems more contributing this game. he has alot of fluff but he seems to be doing stuff.

I can take a stand.

[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

Mac/Falcon/Daisy/Flanders/Some last dude

That’s my guess.

cool OMGUS

[Syn]

But he won’t flip mafia

are you gonna janitor his flip

[KZA]

Falcon kinda disappeared lol

[Long Con]

LOL...well, both pings are one ping...a mention and a quote in the same post.

I feel very wanted! <3

Thank you Daisy!!!

I mouthed off about you! so sorry! owo ♡

but this been a weird nite. I think rl there maybe a chicken trying to murder me is frying my brain. it can't be a chicken.

is this u being a martyr again and that is why you claimed? like don't do that stuff.

No martyr. I need information, so I trade information. My role isn't going to get me anywhere, including killed, in the short term, but in a setup this complicated I think if the entire town tries to keep all their cards tight to their vest we will probably suffer for it. So I shared what looked like it wouldn't hurt to share to lead the way. This seems blatantly obvious, but with five wolves freely sharing information about their roles and how the shrines responded to them they are at a big advantage in figuring stuff out. Some people are gonna take that as role fishing and get timfoily about it and that's just the way it goes.

Now we know some stuff about some stuff.

From the chaos crowd I think maybe we learned something. A bunch of people went to the Sheogorath shrine. At least three claim to have gotten post gimmick curses for their trouble while TSP got a day off the poll, assuming they are all telling the truth. One possibility is that there is a good benefit assigned, maybe randomly or maybe by some priority system, and everyone else gets fucked with. That would fit Sheogorath, lorewise.

That would also make sense of some other issues, like watcher being way to powerful to just hand out to everyone who goes to a shrine. If there is a shrine handing out watcher boons it might just give one per night and everyone else that goes there gets nothing. Gavail says there is a watcher shrine (Nocturnal), and that he chose to go somewhere else last night. That seems like a bad choice to me, and if a lot of people had that choice available it seems like most would have taken it, but we aren't flooded with watcher reports. So only one gets rewarded? Or a lot of people did get watcher power and no one watched Alison get murdered? Or someone did see Alison get murdered and doesn't want to risk telling us about it? Or Gavail is fake on the claim? Some things seem more plausible there than others.

That's what I have put together on the setup. My own input is that one other person went to the same shrine I did (Sanguine) and I have no idea who, or what they got. If whatever gets handed out there is a "only one gets blessed" thing I think I wouldn't even be eligible so it would just go to them automatically. The only thing I can imagine that might come useful out of that info is if for some reason someone admits to being the other Sanguine visitor and then someone else claims they were there too, because that makes one of the three of us a liar. Probably not happening.

Anyway, I was asleep, and woke up to clean up after a puking dog so now I am wide awake at the most inconvenient of times so I'll maybe read some thread here...although the longer I stay up the more screwed my sleep schedule is gonna get.

it would help if @Long Con and @Gavial want to share notes on which shrine they went to N1, because LC says he expected a track and didn't get one, and Gavial says he got one and used it on NANOOK

i mean, if they have reason to suspect that's a bad idea, then don't, but it would help clarify your working theory

I went to Hircine.

[Marmot]

it would help if @Long Con and @Gavial want to share notes on which shrine they went to N1, because LC says he expected a track and didn't get one, and Gavial says he got one and used it on NANOOK

i mean, if they have reason to suspect that's a bad idea, then don't, but it would help clarify your working theory

I'm confused by how LC expected but didn't get one, but perhaps it's just the complexity of the game an abilities in play.

[KZA]

from what I gather Long Con doesn't know what he's getting, and used flavour knowledge to try and get something real good but was disappointed

[Marmot]

If I don't die today, should I go to the chaos shrine? Is it worth it?

[Syn]

I would talk more about the Shrines in order to help the town coordinate better, but it's tough when different townfolk interact in different ways.

For all I know, my visit to Namira could do vastly different things than your visit to Namira. I know that some players have specific Shrines they can visit, and I think they know what those Shrines will do for them. Others, like me, don't have specific Shrines, and interact with them in different ways. I went to a Shrine last night and got nothing, not even a PM saying "nothing happened".

Are the Shrines geared toward their Daedric whatever things? I went to Hircine because it's the Shrine of "the hunt", so I figured it's a lock for getting a track or some way to hunt wolves. Maybe that would work for someone else though. Maybe Meridia's "light and vital energy" will result in a protect. Maybe Hermaeus Mora would provide the player with more knowledge about the game, or even knowledge in a cop-style fashion?

I can't know right now, but maybe some other players do know, am I on the right track at all with this?

LOL...well, both pings are one ping...a mention and a quote in the same post.

I feel very wanted! <3

Thank you Daisy!!!

I mouthed off about you! so sorry! owo ♡

but this been a weird nite. I think rl there maybe a chicken trying to murder me is frying my brain. it can't be a chicken.

is this u being a martyr again and that is why you claimed? like don't do that stuff.

No martyr. I need information, so I trade information. My role isn't going to get me anywhere, including killed, in the short term, but in a setup this complicated I think if the entire town tries to keep all their cards tight to their vest we will probably suffer for it. So I shared what looked like it wouldn't hurt to share to lead the way. This seems blatantly obvious, but with five wolves freely sharing information about their roles and how the shrines responded to them they are at a big advantage in figuring stuff out. Some people are gonna take that as role fishing and get timfoily about it and that's just the way it goes.

Now we know some stuff about some stuff.

From the chaos crowd I think maybe we learned something. A bunch of people went to the Sheogorath shrine. At least three claim to have gotten post gimmick curses for their trouble while TSP got a day off the poll, assuming they are all telling the truth. One possibility is that there is a good benefit assigned, maybe randomly or maybe by some priority system, and everyone else gets fucked with. That would fit Sheogorath, lorewise.

That would also make sense of some other issues, like watcher being way to powerful to just hand out to everyone who goes to a shrine. If there is a shrine handing out watcher boons it might just give one per night and everyone else that goes there gets nothing. Gavail says there is a watcher shrine (Nocturnal), and that he chose to go somewhere else last night. That seems like a bad choice to me, and if a lot of people had that choice available it seems like most would have taken it, but we aren't flooded with watcher reports. So only one gets rewarded? Or a lot of people did get watcher power and no one watched Alison get murdered? Or someone did see Alison get murdered and doesn't want to risk telling us about it? Or Gavail is fake on the claim? Some things seem more plausible there than others.

That's what I have put together on the setup. My own input is that one other person went to the same shrine I did (Sanguine) and I have no idea who, or what they got. If whatever gets handed out there is a "only one gets blessed" thing I think I wouldn't even be eligible so it would just go to them automatically. The only thing I can imagine that might come useful out of that info is if for some reason someone admits to being the other Sanguine visitor and then someone else claims they were there too, because that makes one of the three of us a liar. Probably not happening.

Anyway, I was asleep, and woke up to clean up after a puking dog so now I am wide awake at the most inconvenient of times so I'll maybe read some thread here...although the longer I stay up the more screwed my sleep schedule is gonna get.

it would help if @Long Con and @Gavial want to share notes on which shrine they went to N1, because LC says he expected a track and didn't get one, and Gavial says he got one and used it on NANOOK

i mean, if they have reason to suspect that's a bad idea, then don't, but it would help clarify your working theory

sigh nevermind, LC just made up expectations through the power of imagination

[KZA]

does literally everyone have access to the chaos shrine or something lol

[Syn]

If I don't die today, should I go to the chaos shrine? Is it worth it?

I will park my vote on you forever if you do that

[Marmot]

does literally everyone have access to the chaos shrine or something lol

[Syn]

If I don't die today, should I go to the chaos shrine? Is it worth it?

I will park my vote on you forever if you do that

"I am being heavily suspected and may very well be the dominant counterwagon to the flip if it isn't me... so I'm going to go to a shrine that will insanify me for D3"

[Marmot]

[VOTE: Chaos] aubergine

@Syn

[DaisyCloud]

how come syn and tim are voting out Marmot. and so is qwags and Made.

and iirc several say made and qwags are real sus. but like tim and syn are real townie.

how come several people don't like Enrique and think he is mafia but not voting him. and nacho, who is voting him is supposed to be sus?

how come tim thinks the voting looks good? what about the voting looks good?

This attitude is similar to my current view of the game. I'm happy to have a few townreads, but I haven't figured out who I think is bad yet. I feel like a lot of posts aren't that alignment-readable maybe... or maybe I skimmed through too much while tired. I think of Qwags for instance, and people loling and saying "Who is Quags?" comes to mind, or how about Mac's bunch of GIFs and votes without explanation. I think he has a whole team of suspects, from that post where he voted 5 players at once. I don't know why, I don't know if he's joking around or if he's just scum and wants to muddy the waters while relaxing in GIF-ville. I do think he could do a better job communicating and that he might not be posting in good faith.

Jack's rhymes are sick, but his obsession with Tim doesn't work for me at all. He just calls everything Tim says a lie, whoop-de-doo, but why?

I don't like Jack's rhymes. and, yeah Mac could use more memes/pictures to convey whst he needs to say. the gifs seem more vague.

and yeah jack does more of a this is bad but not say why. and he does thst when he thinks something is good too. like it means 0 if you don't explain why or how. sorry not sorry that just your word on it isn't enough. and last I checked song lyrics can be more then just 2-3 lines. same with poems. I get it's annoying to ppst in rhyme but if he was actually town and seems like sus by many he would put in more efforts.

since we are talking about both players I think Mac has done more to convey his process in the limits he has then jack. or wait actually it's the same. and jack can actually text and stuff. that probably sounds extremely harsh.

That's what I thought too until I actually went back and ISOd Jack. Are you seeing something different?

it's just lacking. I feel like he is low key just posting to be posting.

[Syn]

reeeee

[falcon45ca]

Falcon kinda disappeared lol

Ask and ye shall receive!



Anything exciting happen?

[Syn]

@Nachomamma8 where r u

@falcon45ca where r u

@TonyStarkPrime where r u

@Quin where r u

[Syn]

oh there's falcon!!

[KZA]

Falcon kinda disappeared lol

Ask and ye shall receive!



Anything exciting happen?

some people wanna kill Marmot

some people wanna kill Qwags

Gavial is claiming he's got a watcher ability to use tonight

uhhh I think that's it

[Marmot]

If I don't die today, should I go to the chaos shrine? Is it worth it?

I will park my vote on you forever if you do that

"I am being heavily suspected and may very well be the dominant counterwagon to the flip if it isn't me... so I'm going to go to a shrine that will insanify me for D3"

I'll go to another shrine to win
And create another curse within
A limerick curse
I'll take to my hearse
And they'll all end with the word Syn

[DaisyCloud]

Falcon kinda disappeared lol

Ask and ye shall receive!



Anything exciting happen?

y u lurkin?

[KZA]

I really REALLY don't trust Qwags and Made on the Marmot wagon

[falcon45ca]

Qwags vs Marmot, eh?



I prefer Gav or Kyle

[Syn]

I really REALLY don't trust Qwags and Made on the Marmot wagon

so many scummy people to chop

[Syn]

Qwags vs Marmot, eh?



I prefer Gav or Kyle

why kyle

[Marmot]

@Nachomamma8 where r u

@falcon45ca where r u

@TonyStarkPrime where r u

@Quin where r u

There are too many people this line can be applied to.


At least nacho placed a vote I guess.

[falcon45ca]

oh there's falcon!!

I got Moderna vaccine yesterday and it fuxkin knocked me out cold. I was in bed before the kids, they had to read their own bedtime stories

[DaisyCloud]

Qwags vs Marmot, eh?



I prefer Gav or Kyle

why aren't you voting? why gavial and Kyle?

why/how is qwags and Marmot townie to u?

[Marmot]

Qwags vs Marmot, eh?



I prefer Gav or Kyle

It doesn't have to be Qwags vs Marmot, you can start another.


Although at some point the vanity wagons are gonna have to make up their minds.

[KZA]

Nacho was here reading earlier so I'm assuming they will catch up to us at some point

[falcon45ca]

Qwags vs Marmot, eh?



I prefer Gav or Kyle

why kyle

Maybe it's not fair to him, I don't care, but he's done nothing to sway my thoughts on him from D1.


Have I missed him being towny recently?

[Syn]

oh there's falcon!!

I got Moderna vaccine yesterday and it fuxkin knocked me out cold. I was in bed before the kids, they had to read their own bedtime stories

this'll be me Wednesday

[Syn]

Nacho was here reading earlier so I'm assuming they will catch up to us at some point

but they've been saying that since the game started

[DaisyCloud]

also why am not surprised that Tony not being on the chopping block chose to be afk most of day phase.

[Syn]

Qwags vs Marmot, eh?



I prefer Gav or Kyle

why kyle

Maybe it's not fair to him, I don't care, but he's done nothing to sway my thoughts on him from D1.


Have I missed him being towny recently?

he hasn't done much tbh

[KZA]

Kyle is not being chopped today unless he shows up and posts a full transcript of the wolf chat or something ridiculous like that

[KZA]

Nacho was here reading earlier so I'm assuming they will catch up to us at some point

but they've been saying that since the game started

Nacho falls more in to the vein of hasn't really been here, unlike players like Made Qwags BoKnows that have clearly been here and chosen to do not a whole lot

[Marmot]

oh there's falcon!!

I got Moderna vaccine yesterday and it fuxkin knocked me out cold. I was in bed before the kids, they had to read their own bedtime stories

That's fair.

I get mine on Friday. Much excite!!! \o/

[falcon45ca]

Qwags vs Marmot, eh?



I prefer Gav or Kyle

why aren't you voting? why gavial and Kyle?

why/how is qwags and Marmot townie to u?

I just got back into the game, my vote is coming so hold your britches. Why are you so concerned?


I've already laid out my thoughts on Gav and Kyle.


They're not town to me. Qwags is qwags, and I haven't paid any attention to Marmot.

[KZA]

Qwags vs Marmot, eh?



I prefer Gav or Kyle

why aren't you voting? why gavial and Kyle?

why/how is qwags and Marmot townie to u?

I just got back into the game, my vote is coming so hold your britches. Why are you so concerned?


I've already laid out my thoughts on Gav and Kyle.


They're not town to me. Qwags is qwags, and I haven't paid any attention to Marmot.

quickly ISO Qwags and peep his godawful vote on Marmot

he might actually just be scum this time

[Marmot]

Qwags vs Marmot, eh?



I prefer Gav or Kyle

why aren't you voting? why gavial and Kyle?

why/how is qwags and Marmot townie to u?

I just got back into the game, my vote is coming so hold your britches. Why are you so concerned?


I've already laid out my thoughts on Gav and Kyle.


They're not town to me. Qwags is qwags, and I haven't paid any attention to Marmot.

I'm a leading wagon now, can I get a read on me?

[falcon45ca]

Nacho was here reading earlier so I'm assuming they will catch up to us at some point

but they've been saying that since the game started

Yup. 3rd times the charm? Solid Vig choice IMO

[falcon45ca]

Imma ISO Marmot & Qwags, gimme 30 seconds

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

Like fuck eh. Qwags - always mafia even if he isnt. He sure as hell looks like it now.

This is a problem for me Flanders.

I have people on my home site that "are always mafia even when they aren't." Two different kinds in fact.

There's me. I start every game wrapped in so much tinfoil because of my past behavior that I have to come out the gate fending of a "just in case" chop. You saw the Syn tunnel day one here. That's one kind of "always mafia" to be pushed, but that's obviously not what you are saying about Qwags.

The other kind is the low hanging fruit kind. Always gets chopped early because no matter who the wolf team is they are comfortable that they can. Just...always easy to suss and doesn't have a really strong skillset for "towning it up" to get off the hook. People know that they could just slank that to a win, so they are always inclined to just early chop "just in case" and because "can't have that at end game."

So I get it. But if someone from my home site like that is here I am shielding them, at least partially, because even this early on town can't afford to just throw away a chop. Maybe I'm mad at them for not being able to fend off mischops. Maybe I'm saying "this is just a lhf thing and everyone needs to take a breath here." Maybe a lot of things. But one thing I am NOT doing is saying "looks wolfy, charge!!!" because I would be first in line saying "they always look wolfy though."

You are the one saying that they always look wolfy, but at the same time you seem to be leading the chop with nothing more than "because they look wolfy." That's a not really towny contradiction to me.

Please consider and respond.

I know what im trying to do here.

what's the case on qwags?

He hasn't done anything and doesn't seem to be on track to and cant be retained till endgame

This is a valid thought, but Flanders just going along with it still seems super sketchy.

Like, yes, Qwags has nothing going for them and doesn't seem likely to get anything going for them...but heck we may get lucky and some great mafia player just bones up a green check on them and turns them into an unexpected demand on the wolves for a night kill. I mean, that does happen sometimes.

And I think Flanders postion, if he is town, should be more like "Qwags is always like that and sure maybe we need to chop him but just know that "because he isn't looking towny" is not really a wolf indication so this could be wrong." Flanders is really the wrong guy to be leading the charge.

@Stupid Sexy Flanders I get your position on Qwags well enough and I might be willing to forgive it...but I really need you to suggest some possible wolf reads. Like, not just "hasn't done anything particularly towny," but real solid "saw them do this and it seems really sketch to me" stuff. I need to know what qualifies as "looks wolfy" in your world.

There's a wide range in feels and looks wolfy. But again, I know what im looking for here.

Alright then. Let's light a fire under Qwags ass and see if he gets moving.

Again here...

You seem to be saying that on your home forum this "light a fire under his ass" play generally doesn't work, so you leading the push with it here seems waaaaaaay off to me.

On the other hand, you don't strike me as the "okay pack, I'm gonna go out there and dirty wolf it and lead the town to the mischop" type. More a "blend in and let the town make their own bad choices" type.

Tell me Flanders, do you play the dirty wolf when you wolf? Don't lie, because I am very experienced in the world of the dirty wolf and I will catch you out.

Ask my homes about my wolf meta.

But you keep misrepresenting whats happening as me leading a charge. Im the last to jump on the qwags wagon, but the vote sits there for now.

EOD at 7 EDT?