Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:38 am
Also HI DIZZY! There's litke 5141 reasons I luv u. Let's roleswap again. <3
(It's nice to see you're town as always, btw.)
Done and done.
I wonder if you actually would be able to tell if I randed scum though.
In SF2 I was super worried about that and backread some of your scum games I could find. So maybe, maybe not. But I feel I can probably recognise your town game enough by now to not be suspicious for the wrong reasons, if that makes sense.
And besides, I never call someone lock town in D1, shield them all game to F5, and end up wrong about them after all. :wowee:
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:17 amIn SF2 I was super worried about that and backread some of your scum games I could find. So maybe, maybe not. But I feel I can probably recognise your town game enough by now to not be suspicious for the wrong reasons, if that makes sense.
And besides, I never call someone lock town in D1, shield them all game to F5, and end up wrong about them after all. :wowee:
You're probably right. You're also probably town. Pocketing could never exist.
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:29 am
Okay everyone, Dizzy and I are masons now.
How we gonna role swap now tho
But yes. Radish is way too nice and too good hearted of a person to buddy me this aggressively just to break my heart later. I ship it. Which means town is lucky and scum not so much. =)
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:34 amBruh. I don't know, If i ignore things i assume things, maybe i was afraid of looking dumb given how long i've been playing mafia, so i wanted to see how everyone played in D0 before i came in and make an ass out of myself i dont know lol.
Everywhere i've played, the days start at D1.
Alright. Yeah, D0s are weird. Sometimes it's mostly trolling, and sometimes Tutu tries too hard and Epi calls out the rest of the scum team so I have to bus them
You have never seen me scum and yet you are saying I sometimes try too hard in the scum variety, as if you know how I play as scum.
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:01 pm
Hi everyone. I want to use this space to thank the host in advance for this game, the players for playing, let’s have fun.
Two things you must know about me.
1) Everything i post after this one is “in character”.
2) Im a guy but I dont care what pronouns you use to refer about me. So if you are one of those players who play considering others as slots not as people and use whatever pronouns in the heat or rush of the moment. Do not worry, i could care less.
That being said i will fo my best to respect your wishes and call you by the pronouns you wish to be called, but if i fail so, please know that it’s not out of spite. Just give me a heads up.
This is your only post. Why is that?
I've been reading but I'm not sure if this is a real day phase or not, I've never started on D0 before.
This is a period for everyone to check in. Day 1 will begin tomorrow, and then people can vote.
Congratulations on becoming the second civilian on my list.
Why? Because I didn't know about the D0 mechanic?
It was your phrasing.
"I've been reading but I'm not sure if this is a real day phase or not, I've never started on D0 before."
Your first post indicates to me that you have a character lined up and ready to play as, and then I call you out on the one post you made.
You look like you are waiting for Day 1 to begin.
Yah, I assume that D0 was not a real game phase day, like we could choose to post or not and it wouldn't be counted towards reads and judgement, sort of like an introduction to players phase.
That being said, do you think that is alignment indicative? Because to me it is NAI.
I scumread the post. To me the "I think its NAI" and "No player judgement" is truthful but could be a scummy excuse of someone who was worried he wasn't posting Day 0 and could have been worried he would be scumread off of it.
Also, my townreads are TonyStarkPrime, Epignosis and Dyslexicon. (Seanzie and Made were not)
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:34 amBruh. I don't know, If i ignore things i assume things, maybe i was afraid of looking dumb given how long i've been playing mafia, so i wanted to see how everyone played in D0 before i came in and make an ass out of myself i dont know lol.
Everywhere i've played, the days start at D1.
Alright. Yeah, D0s are weird. Sometimes it's mostly trolling, and sometimes Tutu tries too hard and Epi calls out the rest of the scum team so I have to bus them
You have never seen me scum and yet you are saying I sometimes try too hard in the scum variety, as if you know how I play as scum.
I reread, you were saying this in the sense that it's a one of a time thing, and not a continuous pattern like I parsed.
The mechanical intrigue part is missing in the OP, keep it in mind and don't forget about it please.
My guess would be a Mafia Framer and Town Cop, or perhaps a Mafia role that invalidates player's votes (Jay likes roles that mess with vote powers) or perhaps it's a Cop 13er where all Town are unaware Millers and the Mafia are all Godfathers.
I've been reading but I'm not sure if this is a real day phase or not, I've never started on D0 before.
This is a period for everyone to check in. Day 1 will begin tomorrow, and then people can vote.
Congratulations on becoming the second civilian on my list.
Why? Because I didn't know about the D0 mechanic?
It was your phrasing.
"I've been reading but I'm not sure if this is a real day phase or not, I've never started on D0 before."
Your first post indicates to me that you have a character lined up and ready to play as, and then I call you out on the one post you made.
You look like you are waiting for Day 1 to begin.
Yah, I assume that D0 was not a real game phase day, like we could choose to post or not and it wouldn't be counted towards reads and judgement, sort of like an introduction to players phase.
That being said, do you think that is alignment indicative? Because to me it is NAI.
I scumread the post. To me the "I think its NAI" and "No player judgement" is truthful but could be a scummy excuse of someone who was worried he wasn't posting Day 0 and could have been worried he would be scumread off of it.
Also, my townreads are TonyStarkPrime, Epignosis and Dyslexicon. (Seanzie and Made were not)
I disagree, not knowing what to do in D0 in completely NAI. I don’t deserve a town read for it as much as I don’t deserve a scum read for it.
I suspect you though. I don’t trust people giving easy townreads early D1 or in this case D0.
Why do you town read all those people?
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:39 amI suspect you though. I don’t trust people giving easy townreads early D1 or in this case D0.
Why do you town read all those people?
I think this is pretty normal for Tutu tbh. It's pretty normal for a lot of players, myself included. They even tend to be good. =p
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:38 amHi, I will give Epignosis a 92 out of 100 on the Scum-Mafioso strength chart. He towers over all challengers, an inscrutable, diabolical demigod. He bows to no order, worships no Mafia standard. You will be unable to analyze his sharp retorts and commanding assertions, his point of view suddenly shifting your focus until the blurred lines collapse together and you experience clarity - his clarity. Right or wrong, town or scum, you're in too deep, not only are you convinced that he is right - your reality has simply and irreversibly shifted into Epicentricity.
One day, I want to be buddied just as hard. #GOALS
Buddied?? Dizzy, I'm trying to WARN you, you people are fabsolutely complacent and acting like he's a regular player, when he's a viper spring-trap demon just waiting for you to put your tender fingers close enough!
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:01 amIt was your phrasing.
"I've been reading but I'm not sure if this is a real day phase or not, I've never started on D0 before."
Your first post indicates to me that you have a character lined up and ready to play as, and then I call you out on the one post you made.
You look like you are waiting for Day 1 to begin.
I'm missing how this explains your town read. Is it just that the phrasing sounded town to you, or do you think it's inherently town to wait for Day 1 to begin?
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:12 pmBuddied?? Dizzy, I'm trying to WARN you, you people are fabsolutely complacent and acting like he's a regular player, when he's a viper spring-trap demon just waiting for you to put your tender fingers close enough!
Oh, I know. I've played with Epi in many games. Truth been told, I think he's almost always been town in the games I've seen him in.
Cindy Kate is full of vipers tbh. The mafia aligned bias history is looming, but it has been changing. \o/
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:34 amBruh. I don't know, If i ignore things i assume things, maybe i was afraid of looking dumb given how long i've been playing mafia, so i wanted to see how everyone played in D0 before i came in and make an ass out of myself i dont know lol.
Everywhere i've played, the days start at D1.
Alright. Yeah, D0s are weird. Sometimes it's mostly trolling, and sometimes Tutu tries too hard and Epi calls out the rest of the scum team so I have to bus them
You have never seen me scum and yet you are saying I sometimes try too hard in the scum variety, as if you know how I play as scum.
I reread, you were saying this in the sense that it's a one of a time thing, and not a continuous pattern like I parsed.
I hadn't even read your posts really, I was just poking you. Now I have and I don't have a read on you. You are right in that I've never seen you as scum.
Kind of read the thread, and my (conservative) opinions are that Radish and Gully are town. Gully is guillotine. Let me know if you already have a nick name or want a cooler one. I'm not a creative person.
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:26 pm
Kind of read the thread, and my (conservative) opinions are that Radish and Gully are town. Gully is guillotine. Let me know if you already have a nick name or want a cooler one. I'm not a creative person.
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:39 amI suspect you though. I don’t trust people giving easy townreads early D1 or in this case D0.
Why do you town read all those people?
I think this is pretty normal for Tutu tbh. It's pretty normal for a lot of players, myself included. They even tend to be good. =p
You either answered your own question or you are contradicting yourself.
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:39 amI suspect you though. I don’t trust people giving easy townreads early D1 or in this case D0.
Why do you town read all those people?
I think this is pretty normal for Tutu tbh. It's pretty normal for a lot of players, myself included. They even tend to be good. =p
If this is the case then im gonna have a hard time playing here.
I’m not a trusting player. My style is you are guilty until proven otherwise.
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:32 am
The mechanical intrigue part is missing in the OP, keep it in mind and don't forget about it please.
My guess would be a Mafia Framer and Town Cop, or perhaps a Mafia role that invalidates player's votes (Jay likes roles that mess with vote powers) or perhaps it's a Cop 13er where all Town are unaware Millers and the Mafia are all Godfathers.
I scum read you hard for this. So early and you are already trying to create confusion.
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:39 amI suspect you though. I don’t trust people giving easy townreads early D1 or in this case D0.
Why do you town read all those people?
I think this is pretty normal for Tutu tbh. It's pretty normal for a lot of players, myself included. They even tend to be good. =p
If this is the case then im gonna have a hard time playing here.
I’m not a trusting player. My style is you are guilty until proven otherwise.
I mean your name is 'Guillotine' so that attitude makes sense.
You'll be fine here, dw. People throw around early townreads but don't actually stick to them if they later find reason not to.
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:39 amI suspect you though. I don’t trust people giving easy townreads early D1 or in this case D0.
Why do you town read all those people?
I think this is pretty normal for Tutu tbh. It's pretty normal for a lot of players, myself included. They even tend to be good. =p
You either answered your own question or you are contradicting yourself.
Eh, I'd still like to hear Tutuu's answer to Dizzy's question though. Even if it is normal for Tutuu to give easy townreads, it is still illuminating to hear her explain them.
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Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:39 amI suspect you though. I don’t trust people giving easy townreads early D1 or in this case D0.
Why do you town read all those people?
I think this is pretty normal for Tutu tbh. It's pretty normal for a lot of players, myself included. They even tend to be good. =p
If this is the case then im gonna have a hard time playing here.
I’m not a trusting player. My style is you are guilty until proven otherwise.
I mean your name is 'Guillotine' so that attitude makes sense.
You'll be fine here, dw. People throw around early townreads but don't actually stick to them if they later find reason not to.
Also I'm giving you an early D0 townlean now.
I hosted a game where you were scum very recently. I’d be careful to try to do reverse psychology on me if I were you.
You made me realize something with that last sentence though. Im giving scum hints on how to manipulate me.
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:39 amI suspect you though. I don’t trust people giving easy townreads early D1 or in this case D0.
Why do you town read all those people?
I think this is pretty normal for Tutu tbh. It's pretty normal for a lot of players, myself included. They even tend to be good. =p
You either answered your own question or you are contradicting yourself.
Eh, I'd still like to hear Tutuu's answer to Dizzy's question though. Even if it is normal for Tutuu to give easy townreads, it is still illuminating to hear her explain them.
I agree. Hence why it weirds me out when people give easy town reads.
tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:44 pm
@Long Con @Master Radishes @Marmot Requests. On a scale of 1 to 100, please rate your perceived strength of Epignosis as a wolf player.
My understanding is that it isn't as strong as his town game.
I realize that's not saying much, because town Epi is stronk
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:39 amI suspect you though. I don’t trust people giving easy townreads early D1 or in this case D0.
Why do you town read all those people?
I think this is pretty normal for Tutu tbh. It's pretty normal for a lot of players, myself included. They even tend to be good. =p
There’s all kinds of play styles and inclinations, all valid. Personally, I tend to want everyone to be town, and start out from that end. Not everyone is like that. I agree Tutu should still explain her reads and all.
If this is the case then im gonna have a hard time playing here.
I’m not a trusting player. My style is you are guilty until proven otherwise.
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:39 amI suspect you though. I don’t trust people giving easy townreads early D1 or in this case D0.
Why do you town read all those people?
I think this is pretty normal for Tutu tbh. It's pretty normal for a lot of players, myself included. They even tend to be good. =p
There’s all kinds of play styles and inclinations, all valid. Personally, I tend to want everyone to be town, and start out from that end. Not everyone is like that. I agree Tutu should still explain her reads and all.
If this is the case then im gonna have a hard time playing here.
I’m not a trusting player. My style is you are guilty until proven otherwise.
You replied inside the quote and i dont like that, it looks like I wrote it. Dont do it again please.
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 2:34 am
This could turn out to be yet another game where I'm the only one around when I'm free. I hate having a normal sleep schedule again. We must break it.
If this is the common time you're posting, I'll probably be awake (yay west coast)
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:34 pmYou either answered your own question or you are contradicting yourself.
Not really. I'd still like to know why Tutu town reads me. I'm just saying that I don't think throwing out early town reads in itself is scum indicative for many players. But the why/how/everything else is still relevant. Also, I'm just a bit sceptical to what I perceive as rigid rules when it comes to reading. Like "This is scummy" and then apply it to all players for all games. But I agree, I was thinking I should've probably just let Tutu answer you instead of butting in, but I butted in anyway cause that's what I do.
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 1:13 pmYou replied inside the quote and i dont like that, it looks like I wrote it. Dont do it again please.
Then we both agree tutu should explain her reads.
It wasn't on purpose. Lol, you really are very paranoid and sceptical. It's rather endearing. Do you want to be town buddies and hard town read each other?
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 2:34 am
This could turn out to be yet another game where I'm the only one around when I'm free. I hate having a normal sleep schedule again. We must break it.
If this is the common time you're posting, I'll probably be awake (yay west coast)
Actually, I don't think I will have a common thing, cause I already did done fucked up my sleep schedule. =p
It's really nice to see you here again. I remember you playing a lot when I first started playing over here. ^^
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:34 pmYou either answered your own question or you are contradicting yourself.
Not really. I'd still like to know why Tutu town reads me. I'm just saying that I don't think throwing out early town reads in itself is scum indicative for many players. But the why/how/everything else is still relevant. Also, I'm just a bit sceptical to what I perceive as rigid rules when it comes to reading. Like "This is scummy" and then apply it to all players for all games. But I agree, I was thinking I should've probably just let Tutu answer you instead of butting in, but I butted in anyway cause that's what I do.
Ok i understand. Butting in to answer questions meant for others is generally a scum tell, be careful.
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