[END] Hope Keeps On Going - Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc Mafia

[Sloonei]

I too would like to know what the sloon stump thinks about okosan

I’ve had vaguely positive feelings about them for most of the game, but that doesn’t hold up in this setup. I have no direct reason to suspect them at the moment, but no firm reason to town read them either.

[tedxtr]

I have absolved Fayt of her sins

I have removed any form of heresy

Out of her. She has atoned for her sins.

What were my former personality's sins that needed to be absolved?

She was playing for despair.

She didn’t believe in Lady Hope.

But now, it’s all good. Step in the light.

[Sloonei]

Sloonei, I will follow you

Just tell me

Who is suspicious to you?

I still do not have a comprehensive view of this game. I can more confidently name which players I would not lynch. From there we should all work on picking the most satisfying names still on the list.

I just described POE. Let’s process-of-eliminate.

[tedxtr]

I too would like to know what the sloon stump thinks about okosan

I’ve had vaguely positive feelings about them for most of the game, but that doesn’t hold up in this setup. I have no direct reason to suspect them at the moment, but no firm reason to town read them either.

Let’s cross examine this mysterious slot

That keeps coming back but his impact, his light, is being purposefully shrunken

[tedxtr]

Rej, be prepared

To reveal your full identity.

If not, do it right before your sentence.

[speedchuck]

Why are we all voting rej?

Nothing he's posted in the past 24 hours has made any sense.

I'm just squeezing the toothpaste tube to see what else comes out. Maybe it'll be minty fresh. Maybe it won't.

What’s your current level of engagement with this game, as a recent sub? Do you feel you have a loose grasp on things? Anything you’re confident or especially unsure of?

Not very engaged. I have a loose grasp of the rules.

[tedxtr]

I still think there’s only 2 scum, or this game just doesn’t make any sense.

[speedchuck]

Sloonei, I will follow you

Just tell me

Who is suspicious to you?

I still do not have a comprehensive view of this game. I can more confidently name which players I would not lynch. From there we should all work on picking the most satisfying names still on the list.

I just described POE. Let’s process-of-eliminate.

Can we even DO that in a game with a cult leader?

I can't clear TSP for something that happened D3, because he might be scum by D4. Whereas scum don't get turned into town, so scum reads can hang around from day to day. I know there's only so many recruits or the game would be broken, and they might not be every day, but...

but...

POE might be broken this game?

[speedchuck]

Maybe I should go play all of dangan ronpa and then do some setup theorizing

[speedchuck]

I wonder if Sloonei's death counted as a despair win since it was undone

[Sloonei]

I’ll push us forward a little more because this day phase is not progressing with the energy I’d hoped:
Junko (the nightly roleblocker) is actually Mukuro Ikusaba. They were automatically recruited night 1, they know monukuma’s identity, share his win condition, and reveals as civilian upon death. They also have or had a 1-shot nightkill to be used at any time during the game.

This is why I say it’s “possible” Jack was actually mafia.

This means that the first person to be recruited was essentially mafia from the beginning. They may not necessarily have known DDL was their partner/boss at the time, but they were aware that they’d be recruited from the outset. I have been looking at player ISOs to see who demonstrated an apparent eagerness to understand the recruitment mechanisms and such: anyone who appeared quizzical about that was probably not the auto-recruit.

But it’s also possible that this player is already dead and flipped civilian. We can’t really know without other secrets coming into play to help us out.

[tedxtr]

I was roleblocked last night. Jack wasn’t it.

[Sloonei]

I was roleblocked last night. Jack wasn’t it.

Neat.

[tedxtr]

Even if I wanted to sacrifice getting soup’d, which I want so I can see town win, even if it means me dying, I can’t, because I was roleblocked 2/3 of the game.

Other people need to step up.

[speedchuck]

I actually agree with okosan's analysis of Rej at first glance.

COOO! COO! (So here's the thing. Okosan's like 80% sure Rej is trying to play up a situation where he's both acting scummy on purpose and making posts where he isn't paying attention so we might double think lynching him. The thought process there being that mafia would surely be more interested in the game, right? And if he's not then jeez Rej look into the game please. You need to actually scum hunt and try to help. Either way Okosan wants to hear more from Rej before end of day, so here's a vote to encourage you)

Buuuuut the 'if he's not' bit reads like hedging and playing the victim of Rej's mistakes.

I'd prefer the former because I like Okosan's play today.
If they're both town I'll eat a bagel.

linki: ooh, info

[tedxtr]

[VOTE: TSP ] aubergine

Let’s get it

[tedxtr]

Okosan still has no readslist and voted Rej for something that could’ve been faked without much analysis

[tedxtr]

Not even just the “if he’s not” part. The part where he makes a case on him and then basically nullifies it by saying “but mafia would be more invested”
And rej really isn’t

[tedxtr]

Okosan’s case is this :

Wifom

[Okosan]

Okosan still has no readslist and voted Rej for something that could’ve been faked without much analysis

Cooo! (Imagine thinking Okosan isn't writing a read list as we speak lol)

[tedxtr]

[VOTE: Okosan ] aubergine

A world of dew,

And within every dewdrop

A world of struggle.

[tedxtr]

Sloonei i gotta go to sleep

What do we do

[Long Con]

LC, TSP, or TH would've killed Sloonie.

I love it, man, you always include me on a list of people who would try unorthodox crazyshit. You're goddamn right. But it wasn't me.

[tedxtr]

[VOTE: TSP ] aubergine

Night

[Sloonei]

Sloonei i gotta go to sleep

What do we do

Tell me why you’ve voted for okosan. As comprehensively as you can in your limited availability.

[Okosan]

COOO! (Okosan hopes you guys like reading)

[sig]

LC, TSP, or TH would've killed Sloonie.

I love it, man, you always include me on a list of people who would try unorthodox crazyshit. You're goddamn right. But it wasn't me.

It's paranoia from my early days on TS.

[sig]

Spoiler: show

I’ll push us forward a little more because this day phase is not progressing with the energy I’d hoped:
Junko (the nightly roleblocker) is actually Mukuro Ikusaba. They were automatically recruited night 1, they know monukuma’s identity, share his win condition, and reveals as civilian upon death. They also have or had a 1-shot nightkill to be used at any time during the game.

This is why I say it’s “possible” Jack was actually mafia.

This means that the first person to be recruited was essentially mafia from the beginning. They may not necessarily have known DDL was their partner/boss at the time, but they were aware that they’d be recruited from the outset. I have been looking at player ISOs to see who demonstrated an apparent eagerness to understand the recruitment mechanisms and such: anyone who appeared quizzical about that was probably not the auto-recruit.

But it’s also possible that this player is already dead and flipped civilian. We can’t really know without other secrets coming into play to help us out.

There goes my there aren't really any mafia members just a shit ton of LMS people with one kill shot running around.

[tedxtr]

I voted for TSP and will leave it there, nobody lynches Okosan even though he’s not even town (imo)

Everything he’s posted can easily be posted without much analysis

Or taking strong stances on someone

He’s gonna post that readslist so try and ask him question as much as possible while he’s here

Every time he talks with me he doesn’t consider my alignment, he postures his replies in a smug way that makes me town to him. No consideration for me.

No analysis of depth that comes from the uninformed mentality, no derp clears, no engaging, no sorting.

The only thing he focused out of his own volition was the monokuma hunt which is the safest approach tbh

[sig]

Spoiler: show

I’ll push us forward a little more because this day phase is not progressing with the energy I’d hoped:
Junko (the nightly roleblocker) is actually Mukuro Ikusaba. They were automatically recruited night 1, they know monukuma’s identity, share his win condition, and reveals as civilian upon death. They also have or had a 1-shot nightkill to be used at any time during the game.

This is why I say it’s “possible” Jack was actually mafia.

This means that the first person to be recruited was essentially mafia from the beginning. They may not necessarily have known DDL was their partner/boss at the time, but they were aware that they’d be recruited from the outset. I have been looking at player ISOs to see who demonstrated an apparent eagerness to understand the recruitment mechanisms and such: anyone who appeared quizzical about that was probably not the auto-recruit.

But it’s also possible that this player is already dead and flipped civilian. We can’t really know without other secrets coming into play to help us out.

There goes my there aren't really any mafia members just a shit ton of LMS people with one kill shot running around.

Okay, I'm lying I still like 20% believe that's a possibility and Bearo's win is either kill everyone, maybe with Ikusabe as partner or something along those lines. Which is why he has a soup kill.

Linki: I'm not opposed to a Okosan lynch, but I'm not really seeing an overwhelming reason to vote for him.

I'd say if TSP doesn't flip based off the night actions then maybe he'd be worth going for.

[sig]

Also we've had what 2 or 3 nightkills?

The player before don't know new recruits. So Unless DDL is telling them which I guess he could I feel like there's a sizeable chance they'd hit a fellow mafia member at some point kill wise.

[sig]

I'm also really salty Makoto Naegi hasn't chosen me to chat with like wtf?

Not getting mafia, not getting chatted with.

I really really reeaaaaaallllly need a Serial Killer role in a game asap so I can just revenge kill everyone that wronged me in previous games.

[Okosan]

No analysis of depth that comes from the uninformed mentality, no derp clears, no engaging, no sorting.

The only thing he focused out of his own volition was the monokuma hunt which is the safest approach tbh

COOOOO! (Btw that's actually just untrue considering he posted a fairly long reads list based off of your reads list earlier that you even responded to. But nice to know you're just ignoring that)

[sig]

[mention]Long Con[/mention]

[Rej]

[VOTE: TSP] aubergine
I trust tedextr.

Also tbh I am lost all my actions in this game failed.

[Okosan]

Cooooooooo! (So this is disregarding any mechanical clears anyone has done because Okosan didn't write those down and doesn't remember them off the top of his head. Also here's half of the list so far just you people can discuss it)

As Okosan mentioned in the post responding to Ted's town reads, Okosan scum reads both of these people
Rej:

Spoiler: show

Rej - COO! (Okosan feels like Rej really needs to actaul contribute more right now. Don't get Okosan wrong he can see a strategy as town where you would want to barely contribute that way scum wouldn't see a need to kill you. But if Town was doing that surely they would still want to contribute occasionally with actual reads and whatnot. Sure living is important but if you don't catch and lynch scum you're going to lose anyways.
Now today it really feels like Rej is trying to double down on this "he's so scummy he could never be scum" type of thing and there's actually just no reason to do that as town. You're literally just asking to be lynched with that. From a town's point of view given the two options of either do what Okosan just mentioned, or just try to act town enough to change the lynch they would always want to do the latter Okosan's fairly sure. At least in a scenario in which we haven't hit any scum yet.)

Long Con:

Spoiler: show

Long Con - Coooooooo? (Same as Okosan mentioned in the original response, Okosan felt that early in the game Long Con was just throwing sus around on people to see what stuck, and to cause paranoia. One example, again, being where he said all the people voting for Turnip Head was sketchy but not following through with it at all. Looking back through Long Con's posts just now Okosan also noticed a few things like one, LC tried to delay DDL's lynch by a day. Two, claimed he didn't know how to town read people, and yet he's been scum reading people just fun. Three, he pushed this bs world of Jack being scum and never answered Okosan's question following up on that. Mysteriously disappearing at the end of day to just let that lynch go through. LC is just mega scum and probably scum that was converted early)

Fayt:

Spoiler: show

Fayt - Coo! (Okosan knows he said that there's probably a scum between Fayt and Creature, but Okosan actually is town reading Fayt from reading her posts tbh. Okosan gets that a lot of it is non content, but when Fayt did actually start posting Okosan liked what she was saying. On day 3 Fayt seemed to be legitimately trying to solve the game, and Okosan doesn't really read much into the activity excuses that occurred earlier. In fact that's probably why she was replaced.)

Creature:

Spoiler: show

Creature - COO! COOO! (Creature is a bit of a scum read, but not one that we should lynch today. The beginning of Creature's post do just seem like a disinterested villager, but then on Day 2 he for some reason feels the need to randomly start correctly people on how recruits work. Okosan could interpret that as someone surprised with how spaced out they were getting recruited in the first place. That or Creature brought up his role with DDL in the first place since he already discussed how unlikely it was for town to win. Again this is a very weak read though. So only a scum lean, and probably shouldn't be looked at for a little while.)

TSP:

Spoiler: show

TonyStarkPrime - Coooo! Cooo? (So what exactly is scummy to you guys about TSP? Okosan would like an actual reasoning from everyone voting him because he seems blatant town to Okosan when TSP was voting. If you think TSP is scum before Day 3 when he stopped talking, you're living in a world in which first off scum cleared another town just for the heck of it in Jack. Then you're living in a world in which the main list of people TSP wanted to lynch on Day 2 includes: DDL (Monokuma), Sloonei (the only confirmed town on his list), and then Rej and Sig. Neither of which are confirmed town or anything. Okosan just doesn't get the scum reads / votes on TSP unless you think him going silent equals him being scum. Which Okosan feels there are much much better options for a lynch today)

[Okosan]

COOOOO! (Tldr of those 5:
Rej - Mega Scum
Long Con - Mega Scum
Fayt - Town
Creature - Scum Lean
TSP - Town, and why are you guys scum reading him?)

[Sloonei]

Also tbh I am lost all my actions in this game failed.

What does this mean?

[Sloonei]

I have no direct reason to oppose a Tony lynch, but Rej is my preferred option.

[Long Con]

Coooo! Coooo! (Lol if you'd just want a few minutes you'd get a nice long reads list. Okosan just wanted to get some pressure out there first )

This post reads scummy to me. Probably from memories of myself as scum saying the exact same thing in a past game, and getting caught for it.

[Okosan]

I have no direct reason to oppose a Tony lynch, but Rej is my preferred option.

Coooooo! (Read Okosan's read on TSP. In what world is he scum? In fact do an ISO of TSP's posts and nothing screams scummy there to Okosan)

[Okosan]

Coooo! Coooo! (Lol if you'd just want a few minutes you'd get a nice long reads list. Okosan just wanted to get some pressure out there first )

This post reads scummy to me. Probably from memories of myself as scum saying the exact same thing in a past game, and getting caught for it.

COOOO! (The feeling when your scum read continues to do the exact thing that you called them out for in your reads list)

[tedxtr]

[VOTE: Rej] aubergine


If this flips red, lynch Long Con next

[Sloonei]

Coooo! Coooo! (Lol if you'd just want a few minutes you'd get a nice long reads list. Okosan just wanted to get some pressure out there first )

This post reads scummy to me. Probably from memories of myself as scum saying the exact same thing in a past game, and getting caught for it.

Why did past-LC say these things? What was the context?

[Long Con]

I was roleblocked last night. Jack wasn’t it.

You get told you were blocked, or that your action failed, or what? I don't know if that's a question you're allowed to answer, but I'd like to know how certain you are.

Coooo! Coooo! (Lol if you'd just want a few minutes you'd get a nice long reads list. Okosan just wanted to get some pressure out there first )

This post reads scummy to me. Probably from memories of myself as scum saying the exact same thing in a past game, and getting caught for it.

Why did past-LC say these things? What was the context?

Baddie in need of a reason to get involved and put a vote down to blend in.

[Long Con]

[VOTE: Rej] aubergine


If this flips red, lynch Long Con next

That is seriously fucked up. What's the connection there?

[Sloonei]

I have no direct reason to oppose a Tony lynch, but Rej is my preferred option.

Coooooo! (Read Okosan's read on TSP. In what world is he scum? In fact do an ISO of TSP's posts and nothing screams scummy there to Okosan)

Tony is very good at not looking scum. I’ve caught him twice in the past, but both times it took a huge revelation for me to realize he was bad. The second instance of this happened like a week ago and it was awesome. The first one got me a Socky award and was even better.

[Long Con]

Coooo! Coooo! (Lol if you'd just want a few minutes you'd get a nice long reads list. Okosan just wanted to get some pressure out there first )

This post reads scummy to me. Probably from memories of myself as scum saying the exact same thing in a past game, and getting caught for it.

COOOO! (The feeling when your scum read continues to do the exact thing that you called them out for in your reads list)

Shoo, pigeon! I'm posting as I catch up!

[Okosan]

Coo! (Long Con if that post reads scummy to you why aren't you pushing Okosan as the lynch right now? You know that Ted wants to lynch Okosan to begin with and that other people in this game have expressed that they wouldn't be opposed to it. Are you afraid of the attention it would get you if you try to pivot away from one of the main wagons going on right now? Because it seems to Okosan like you just want to spread paranoia and mistrust right now.)

COOOOOO! (On top of that, you still haven't answered Okosan's question from a while before about your Jack push)

[Long Con]

Spoiler: show

I’ll push us forward a little more because this day phase is not progressing with the energy I’d hoped:
Junko (the nightly roleblocker) is actually Mukuro Ikusaba. They were automatically recruited night 1, they know monukuma’s identity, share his win condition, and reveals as civilian upon death. They also have or had a 1-shot nightkill to be used at any time during the game.

This is why I say it’s “possible” Jack was actually mafia.

This means that the first person to be recruited was essentially mafia from the beginning. They may not necessarily have known DDL was their partner/boss at the time, but they were aware that they’d be recruited from the outset. I have been looking at player ISOs to see who demonstrated an apparent eagerness to understand the recruitment mechanisms and such: anyone who appeared quizzical about that was probably not the auto-recruit.

But it’s also possible that this player is already dead and flipped civilian. We can’t really know without other secrets coming into play to help us out.

There goes my there aren't really any mafia members just a shit ton of LMS people with one kill shot running around.

I can't believe you got a kill shot.