Retrocausality Mafia - ENDGAME: A Reprieve in the Desert

[Golden]

Was it a good question though?

Yes.

If TH wants to achieve his win con, you'd expect him to pick someone with a reasonable level of town cred in the thread, not himself (a person who could have easily been lynched).

Him picking himself would have suggested ulterior motive.

[Turnip Head]

When in dubt drink more wine

[Golden]

When in dubt drink more wine

Beer, fool.

[Golden]

I do declare this night is all about the BIFOM.

[MacDougall]

Salty sailor sets sail south side saddling several slippery sea snakes

[ColinIsCool]

You’re totally putting words in my mouth, but ooookay.

i'm really not. mafia turnip head becoming unlynchable after predicting just 2 elections is the only realistic way he lives past the end of day 3. isnt that what you're worried about? what else could go wrong

Well firstly, “Becoming unlynchable” = “a crazy game winning power”.

I’m not saying we lose the game if TH gets his way. But there are plenty of ways things can go south if he’s lying, even if it’s not unlynchable. The hurricane in U-Pick for example. I’m sure all of who you have played a zillion games can think of others.

[Epignosis]

I'm going to campaign here a moment, and express to you rubes just why I am the correct candidate for this erection.

First, 2483 is five hundred years following my birth.

Second, I kind of like beer.

Finally, this was modeled after my penis:



Finally, and I can tell truly that speedchuck does not drink:

My buddies and I have tasted every concoction from neanderthal piss to alien ant stew, and this beer is the best there is. Ever. Period. And I have a voucher for one of them.

If anybody served me a beer like that, I'd kick them out of my penis tower. That's clearly whiskey, and not beer. From the decanter to the glasses to the presentation- whiskey.

And a voucher? You have to have a voucher for something in 2483? That's like saying you have a gift certificate to get your eight tracks out of layaway. Holy shit.

The decanter even says "Diamond Jubilee," which indicates a sixtieth anniversary. What are we celebrating, O great host from the future? Betty White's porn debut?

In the meantime, enjopy the sights! You can see the entire state of Thriple New York from here.

You missed an opportunity.

'"Trippel New York."



If this is our future, I want to die.

But don't let that happen.

Instead, vote for me!

[Epignosis]

essentially, voting to elect golden tonight has the same end result as lynching turnip head tomorrow.

either turniphead is telling the truth and he gets his easy win and vanishes and we know he was indie, or we find out he was lying, we lynch him day 3 and then he vanishes and we know he was mafia.

if you have a better way of dealing with his claim then let me know

I am not dealing with TH's claim by letting him win an item.

If he wanted to successfully guess tonight he should have picked someone other than himself. This is like the part that Daisy opposed strongly, and on this I agree. I'm fine testing his claim, but I'm not electing him to have other advantages. I'd sooner have lynched him yesterday and not tested his claim at all than let him win an item, and for him to think he could win an election under current circumstances is his own fault.

Who gives a shit about Turnip Head and his win condition?

[Turnip Head]

I've played enough games with TH to know I should never trust him but he sounds pretty genuine here, like why would he lie? Also his role sounds super dumb other than randomly having btsc with Kyle? Like, what the fuck is [mention]Turnip Head[/mention] up to?

Anyways I'm voting for Golden.

[Golden]

essentially, voting to elect golden tonight has the same end result as lynching turnip head tomorrow.

either turniphead is telling the truth and he gets his easy win and vanishes and we know he was indie, or we find out he was lying, we lynch him day 3 and then he vanishes and we know he was mafia.

if you have a better way of dealing with his claim then let me know

I am not dealing with TH's claim by letting him win an item.

If he wanted to successfully guess tonight he should have picked someone other than himself. This is like the part that Daisy opposed strongly, and on this I agree. I'm fine testing his claim, but I'm not electing him to have other advantages. I'd sooner have lynched him yesterday and not tested his claim at all than let him win an item, and for him to think he could win an election under current circumstances is his own fault.

Who gives a shit about Turnip Head and his win condition?

Kyle

[ColinIsCool]

A vote for Turnip Head’s wincon is a vote for “eh, fuck it.”

[Turnip Head]

I am going to leave this game with about as much dignity as I deserve

[Golden]

A vote for Turnip Head’s wincon is a vote for “eh, fuck it.”

A vote against TH's wincon is a vote to just keep having the exact same arguments we had yesterday, tomorrow.

[Epignosis]

This is my erection night. I deserve it. Fuck Golden.

[Turnip Head]

A vote for Turnip Head’s wincon is a vote for “eh, fuck it.”

A vote against TH's wincon is a vote to just keep having the exact same arguments we had yesterday, tomorrow.

You wouldn't be saying that if you still thought I predicted myself

[ColinIsCool]

A vote for Turnip Head’s wincon is a vote for “eh, fuck it.”

A vote against TH's wincon is a vote to just keep having the exact same arguments we had yesterday, tomorrow.

Or we can ignore him. Better yet, make him watch!

[Golden]

A vote for Turnip Head’s wincon is a vote for “eh, fuck it.”

A vote against TH's wincon is a vote to just keep having the exact same arguments we had yesterday, tomorrow.

You wouldn't be saying that if you still thought I predicted myself

Absolutely correct

[Golden]

A vote for Turnip Head’s wincon is a vote for “eh, fuck it.”

A vote against TH's wincon is a vote to just keep having the exact same arguments we had yesterday, tomorrow.

Or we can ignore him. Better yet, make him watch!

Nah

I was actually pissed at him for voting himself because I want to find out if he was lying. I would have voted for any person who he picked if I trusted them. But I wouldn't have voted for him if he picked himself in case it was a ploy just to get an item.

[MacDougall]

If we're not electing Epi then we really should just elect me because I am clearly the most townie person here and I also am a great guy

[MacDougall]

Colin what does your electorial thing do?

[Golden]

[mention]Scotty[/mention]
[mention]Quin[/mention]
[mention]Spacedaisy[/mention]
[mention]MacDougall[/mention]

I shall not campaign. I merely ask that you vote for me this one time, and trust me.

[MacDougall]

@Scotty
@Quin
@Spacedaisy
@MacDougall

I shall not campaign. I merely ask that you vote for me this one time, and trust me.

I trust you in the same way that I trust my mother in law

[Golden]

If this location is the one epi picked, then it's almost like he knew Mac was going to make a joke about his penis before the game even happened...

Retrocausality proven.

[Golden]

Scotty
Quin
Spacedaisy
MacDougall

I shall not campaign. I merely ask that you vote for me this one time, and trust me.

I trust you in the same way that I trust my mother in law

I haven't met her.

[MacDougall]

Goldeen, you said your role had no utility outside of confirming Scotty. How is it that you now have some magic plans that revolve around being elected. God damn it why is the game always more fun for you than me.

[ColinIsCool]

Colin what does your electorial thing do?

If I’m right I get an extra vote in the following lynch.

[Golden]

Goldeen, you said your role had no utility outside of confirming Scotty. How is it that you now have some magic plans that revolve around being elected. God damn it why is the game always more fun for you than me.

[ColinIsCool]

@Scotty
@Quin
@Spacedaisy
@MacDougall

I shall not campaign. I merely ask that you vote for me this one time, and trust me.

I trust you in the same way that I trust my mother in law

Mac is going for that funniest post award with everything he’s got

[Quin]

@Scotty
@Quin
@Spacedaisy
@MacDougall

I shall not campaign. I merely ask that you vote for me this one time, and trust me.

i swear to mother fucking jesus if i elect you tonight you better reciprocate tomorrow or i am going to shit on your face

[Epignosis]

Colin what does your electorial thing do?

If I’m right I get an extra vote in the following lynch.

All the more reason to vote for me.

[MacDougall]

You know what. No!

Enough!

Epi and Golden want this too much. Let's do the right thing people. Let's vote for a third party.

Now I'd gladly accept it, but if not me then I say we elect sprityo for the funky fresh beats.

[Epignosis]

If Golden and Scotty are bad together, you all deserve to lose.

[Epignosis]

You know what. No!

Enough!

Epi and Golden want this too much. Let's do the right thing people. Let's vote for a third party.

Now I'd gladly accept it, but if not me then I say we elect sprityo for the funky fresh beats.

I only want it so Golden can't have it.

[Golden]

Scotty
Quin
Spacedaisy
MacDougall

I shall not campaign. I merely ask that you vote for me this one time, and trust me.

i swear to mother fucking jesus if i elect you tonight you better reciprocate tomorrow or i am going to shit on your face

Deal.

The reciprocating part, I mean.

Reciprocating on the electing you, not the other thing.

[MacDougall]

You know what. No!

Enough!

Epi and Golden want this too much. Let's do the right thing people. Let's vote for a third party.

Now I'd gladly accept it, but if not me then I say we elect sprityo for the funky fresh beats.

I only want it so Golden can't have it.

I appreciate this. That's also why I want it.

[Kylemii]

Well firstly, “Becoming unlynchable” = “a crazy game winning power”.

I’m not saying we lose the game if TH gets his way. But there are plenty of ways things can go south if he’s lying, even if it’s not unlynchable. The hurricane in U-Pick for example. I’m sure all of who you have played a zillion games can think of others.

do you think that's realistic? you have a similar role charging technique, do you think predicting 2 elections is worth something that dangerous when it's super easy to

hey guess what i just realized i don't care about this basically at all actually. my whole point in helping turnip head achieve his wincon from the start was to call his bluff in case his weird claim was fake. i still think we should absolutely test his wincon before considering lynching him but it's not really that much of a priority i guess

[Spacedaisy]

@Scotty
@Quin
@Spacedaisy
@MacDougall

I shall not campaign. I merely ask that you vote for me this one time, and trust me.

Turnip Head picked you as his prediction. I trust you. I do not trust TH.

[MacDougall]

Have any of you ever actually heard Golden speak?

He sounds like this.



Can you trust a man who sounds like that?

[ColinIsCool]

I’m fine voting for Epi tbh if it means denying the lusts of Turbup. An extra vote isn’t that important to me this early in the game.

[Golden]

You know what. No!

Enough!

Epi and Golden want this too much. Let's do the right thing people. Let's vote for a third party.

Now I'd gladly accept it, but if not me then I say we elect sprityo for the funky fresh beats.

Seriously Mac, why can't you just for once sit still and let me execute a plan without trying to interfere just because you're jealous!

I'm trying to do something that is in the best interests of the town here. Your mother in law would be proud of me!

[Epignosis]

You know what. No!

Enough!

Epi and Golden want this too much. Let's do the right thing people. Let's vote for a third party.

Now I'd gladly accept it, but if not me then I say we elect sprityo for the funky fresh beats.

I only want it so Golden can't have it.

I appreciate this. That's also why I want it.

Vote me for, and I'll vote for you when your time comes.

[MacDougall]

You know what. No!

Enough!

Epi and Golden want this too much. Let's do the right thing people. Let's vote for a third party.

Now I'd gladly accept it, but if not me then I say we elect sprityo for the funky fresh beats.

Seriously Mac, why can't you just for once sit still and let me execute a plan without trying to interfere just because you're jealous!

I'm trying to do something that is in the best interests of the town here. Your mother in law would be proud of me!

Accusing me of jealousy is not the way to get me to bend to your will Brodemort.

[Golden]

Turnip Head picked you as his prediction. I trust you. I do not trust TH.

Then trust me and do as I ask.

Please. You reached out and trusted me. I don't want to waste that trust.

[Epignosis]

You know what. No!

Enough!

Epi and Golden want this too much. Let's do the right thing people. Let's vote for a third party.

Now I'd gladly accept it, but if not me then I say we elect sprityo for the funky fresh beats.

Seriously Mac, why can't you just for once sit still and let me execute a plan without trying to interfere just because you're jealous!

I'm trying to do something that is in the best interests of the town here. Your mother in law would be proud of me!

What do you get from this?

[Quin]

You know what. No!

Enough!

Epi and Golden want this too much. Let's do the right thing people. Let's vote for a third party.

Now I'd gladly accept it, but if not me then I say we elect sprityo for the funky fresh beats.

I only want it so Golden can't have it.

I appreciate this. That's also why I want it.

Vote me for, and I'll vote for you when your time comes.

The southern comforts must be getting to you.

[Golden]

You know what. No!

Enough!

Epi and Golden want this too much. Let's do the right thing people. Let's vote for a third party.

Now I'd gladly accept it, but if not me then I say we elect sprityo for the funky fresh beats.

Seriously Mac, why can't you just for once sit still and let me execute a plan without trying to interfere just because you're jealous!

I'm trying to do something that is in the best interests of the town here. Your mother in law would be proud of me!

What do you get from this?

If everything comes together perfectly...

Perhaps a town win tomorrow.

[Spacedaisy]

[VOTE: Golden] aubergine

[Epignosis]

You know what. No!

Enough!

Epi and Golden want this too much. Let's do the right thing people. Let's vote for a third party.

Now I'd gladly accept it, but if not me then I say we elect sprityo for the funky fresh beats.

I only want it so Golden can't have it.

I appreciate this. That's also why I want it.

Vote me for, and I'll vote for you when your time comes.

The southern comforts must be getting to you.

Should have said "Vote me for this."

[Epignosis]

If I am not elected, I will out myself and potentially ruin this for the civilian faction.

Yes, I am that petty.

[MacDougall]

Every damn game Golden is in revolves around him becoming trustworthy and then establishing networks of trust. The first game I ever experienced his networky trust building fucking bs was A World Reborn and he started civ, built a network BTS, turned out that most of the people he was establishing trust with were scum and then they recruited him and he won with them and the rest of us had to suffer.

Golden + Trust = Mac's Triggering Intensifies

And he wonders why I never trust him.