bea wrote:Indi - I am sorry - I'm trying to shake off my old role and embrace my new one. While both are civ, When I was in the old role, it felt like you were gunning to make me bad.Talking about a game that you couldn't reference in which I was "so very manipulative" set me on my radar. I admit I could have over embellished thoughts there. And thoughts, at the time, I didn't mention because I was trying to stay cool.indiglo wrote:bea wrote: really? really?
I was a civ is confirmed - I can only say I'm still a civ - but my civnes before WAS confirmed. And you - you who supposedly "can read me so well" as to know when I'm all "sweet bea" -DID read me wrong. I said "was" because I was referring to my old role. My new role is just as civ as ever, I just understand that I have to start from zero this time around. I'm concerned that you would so obviously miss my intentions in the posts between my old role and my new role.
It's almost like you were determined for me to be bad the first time around and now that i've a new role, you'll be damn sure positive I'm bad this time around....
I love you too sis...[/ot}
but you feel baddie to me. And have for a while now.
I did mis-read you. You are right there. And I am sorry about that. I never claimed to "read you so well" once. I simply said I had seen you pull the "sweet Bea" act before. I was never certain you were bad before and I never said I was. In fact, once I read your explanations to me, I was happy to simply watch and wait. I wasn't gunning for you, nor was I determined for you to be bad.
Interesting that suddenly you think I'm baddie because I mention your name once you have a new role though. You never said that before when I asked questions about you or suspected you... when you were a civ.
This is not a defense to me. You're just trying to sling mud at me. Was I wrong before? Yes. I've said so many times. Me being wrong about you before has zero baring on the role you have this time. This defense makes me feel worse yet about you... whereas last time your defense made me feel better about you.
I'm not trying to sling mud at you. At all. I'm trying to say - you're always thinking I'm bad in this game even when I'm not. And not once in this game have you given me a chance to be good. Forgive me for being jumpy about the fact that the person who should know me best in this game has misread me the whole way through. At some point, I'm a fool to not think that the misread is not on purpose. What would you think about me if the role's were reversed?
Bea, I appreciate your calmer tone. Your tone, however, does NOT explain what you said. I didn't say "you were being so very manipulative" - now that's at least 2 times you have put words into my mouth that aren't there. I was wrong the first time about you, but I am not this time - you know it and you freaked out. Plain and simple. I caught your slip up and you had to try to sling mud, back pedal and change the subject to try to cover it up. You can't cover it up. I saw it, and it's too late to go back in time.
Explain what you said - you have posted back to me several times now and have consistently neglected to address what I actually asked you about. You have focused instead on the fact that I was wrong about you the first time (true, I've already said so half a dozen times at least and that has no baring whatsoever on you NOW), how you think I'm bad (which you never even brought up until I caught your slip up just now), AND you have also put words in my mouth at least 2 times. Remember how earlier in the games we were talking about patterns? You now fit the pattern. Please explain why you said these things I picked up on.
indiglo wrote:I thought that exchange between Devin and Bea felt odd, so I re-read it. After my second or third reread, this stuck out to me like a sore thumb:
bea wrote: I do really think that focusing on us new replacements leaves many unturned things in this game. i agree with dex in only this one thing. The baddies have been VERY good at distracting all of you from where we should go.
Previously, (when she was playing as a confirmed civ before I, and others, decided we should kill her - still sorry about that sis!!) she used "we" and "us" a lot. In this post above she switches from "we" to "you". She also made this post:
This seems to imply that she was civ before (which, clearly we all know) and since she uses the past tense "I WAS a civ" it also implies that she no longer is... and that she's using that previous civ cred to defend herself now.bea wrote: why would you have your on me or kate?
Kate is new - and I was a blind civ. why does that make us suspicious?
Does this make sense? Did anyone else notice this?
linki
Look at how different her "defense" is this time from when she was a civ. As a civ, she defended herself politely and with actual reasons. This time she immediately began changing the subject, mud slinging, "No U-ing", putting words into my mouth that I never said, etc. She did none of that as a civ. She slipped up, which all of us do from time to time when we have baddie roles. I will be voting Bea today. And I encourage all other civs to do the same thing. Seriously. In fact, I'm going to do it right now. (This obviously is nothing personal, I just think you received a baddie role this time.)
*votes Bea*