Severance [Workday Four]

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Poll ended at Fri Nov 24, 2023 10:00 pm

Alexy
1
9%
Cape90
0
No votes
DarlingMonroe
0
No votes
DrWilgy
0
No votes
Lime Coke
5
45%
potentialsheltervet
0
No votes
Scotty
1
9%
tutuu
0
No votes
No elimination
0
No votes
No vote / Unvote
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No votes
No waffle parties? (non-players)
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Total votes: 11
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Re: Severance [Workday Three]

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DarlingMonroe

Scotty

Long Con
potentialsheltervet


tutuu

Lime Coke
DrWigly


Alexy

Delta

Rainbow looking something like this rn
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Re: Severance [Workday Three]

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DarlingMonroe is hard to see at the top of that, sorry. but yeah obviously mech bc of JOH2005
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Re: Severance [Workday Three]

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Scotty wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2023 10:46 pm Anyway, looking at ilario’s iso and suspicions- I already covered this in my case on why he was scum, but I’ll go over the tl;dr -

Ilario said he could basically godread cape on D1, makes a progression where he finds cape suspicious; and votes there.
Come Day 2, he never mentioned cape again. And early votes psv. Super weird,

Which reminds me- Cape looks REAL good for this tidbit. PSV looks REAL good for this.

New town core:
-Wilgy
-psv
-Cape
-DarlingMonroe
-me



We looking good, y’all. Could a 3p be lurking in the town core? Absolutely. This just means to me that ilario isn’t teamed with those players unless he is a masochist who busses and loves to be bussed like a
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Alexy
0
No votes
Voters: None
Cape90
0
No votes
Voters: None
DarlingMonroe
0
No votes
Voters: None
Delta
1
7%
Voters: tutuu
DrWilgy
0
No votes
Voters: None
ilario
4
27%
Voters: DrWilgy, potentialsheltervet, Long Con, Jackofhearts2005
Jackofhearts2005
0
No votes
Voters: None
Lime Coke
0
No votes
Voters: None
Long Con
3
20%
Voters: DarlingMonroe, Cape90, Scotty
potentialsheltervet
3
20%
Voters: ilario, Delta, Lime Coke
Scotty
0
No votes
Voters: None
tutuu
0
No votes
Voters: None
No elimination
0
No votes
Voters: None
No vote / Unvote
0
No votes
Voters: None
Follow the Handbook. (non-players)
4
27%
Voters: S~V~S, MacDougall, JaggedJimmyJay, nutella
Total votes: 15
I say this again, if you think PSV is town, I think you just have Long Con as town... unless he's in it for the Long Con :slick:
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Re: Severance [Workday Three]

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tutuu wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:43 pm I completely forgot about Cape. Oh well, I'm not too concerned, I don't think he's endgaming if he's wolf here.
Given I am going on vacation on Wednesday, I think if I were wolf this would be right :p
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Re: Severance [Workday Three]

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Cape90 wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:54 am [VOTE: Delta] aubergine

I didn't wanna vote in case majority but if Delta is actually survival 3p, they kinda fumbled their hand by not immediately claiming
I didnt know how to approach this ;_; noted for the future but in a spot like this it feels really. Boring to just insantly claim it? Especially in a situation where doing so is awkward when ideally I want to just guess well and bounce the fuck out of the gane
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Re: Severance [Workday Three]

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Hello all how would we feel about getting jazzy
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Re: Severance [Workday Three]

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I'm thinking about it more. Pondering. I think I believe Delta is 3p. Doesn't mean he should live, but does mean there are still two other mafioso out there.
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Re: Severance [Workday Three]

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Thinking POE is Alexy, Brad, DW, and tutuu.
Alexy > Brad > DW= tutuu imo.
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Re: Severance [Workday Three]

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[VOTE: Alexy ] aubergine
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Re: Severance [Workday Three]

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Delta claimed he has two possible wincons - survive and three different types of correct guesses on who gets chopped in both threads. He claimed that even if he dies, he can still win with the second wincon. If Delta was truthful he has no reason to not claim instantly, and immediately start giving us info on the other thresd. He loses nothing, he doesn't even need to be alive as claimed by him. Even if he is 3p he is lying about something, his play doesn't make sense for it to be truthful
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Re: Severance [Workday Three]

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tutuu wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:27 pm Delta claimed he has two possible wincons - survive and three different types of correct guesses on who gets chopped in both threads. He claimed that even if he dies, he can still win with the second wincon. If Delta was truthful he has no reason to not claim instantly, and immediately start giving us info on the other thresd. He loses nothing, he doesn't even need to be alive as claimed by him. Even if he is 3p he is lying about something, his play doesn't make sense for it to be truthful
His play being:

-hide the fact that hes 3p and pretend to be town out of survival, when he doesnt even need to survive

-choose to not immediately tell us mech info about other thread from day 1, when making friends with town sounds good for him to achieve wincon and to be left alone

-try to discourage people from voting him "zzz boring, lame, wagon on me stagnant" while claiming and pretending he doesn't need to be alive to win

Like sure, Delta could be 3p but I'm really confident he's lying about something. Chopping a person who claims town over chopping a person who claims non-town is an unnecessary risk. At worst chopping Delta we just lose a 3p that was never on our side, at worst chopping anyone else flips us a town and then we're further behind.

Unless we wanna argue Delta should be alive until the end of the game, I would argue it's optimal to resolve him asap and read his flip. It might help for the other players too, given that Delta claimed a PR and most if us are VTs
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Re: Severance [Workday Three]

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"-choose to not immediately tell us mech info about other thread from day 1, when making friends with town sounds good for him to achieve wincon and to be left alone"

I forgot to mention the mafia too. 3p Delta claiming from first post makes him friends not only with town but with mafia, as they wouldn't kill him. Yet he didn't.
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Re: Severance [Workday Three]

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tutuu wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:27 pm Delta claimed he has two possible wincons - survive and three different types of correct guesses on who gets chopped in both threads. He claimed that even if he dies, he can still win with the second wincon. If Delta was truthful he has no reason to not claim instantly, and immediately start giving us info on the other thresd. He loses nothing, he doesn't even need to be alive as claimed by him. Even if he is 3p he is lying about something, his play doesn't make sense for it to be truthful
I didnt claim that I can win while dead lmfao

If I die its over, no win
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Re: Severance [Workday Three]

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Delta wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:39 pm
Scotty wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:05 pm
Delta wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:04 pm
Scotty wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:03 pm
Delta wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:00 pm I make a guess for each thread before daystart

3 exact guesses, win
5 alignment guesses right in 6, win
3 consecutive player guesses, win
:ponder:

I guess this makes more sense to give you more outs.

So theoretically, you could have won at the end of our d2 if you had guessed everything correctly by that point?

Do you fly away into the trees if you win or
yep, if I win I leave early
cant solo win
Oh, I thought you said you’d be a survivor if you don’t fulfill your other
I can keep guessing so that wincon is always there, it's just the overarching one is 'if youre alive by the end of it all, win'
Maybe I misunderstood then. "Don't fulfill wincon" -> "I can keep guessing". I parsed this as you can win after you die
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Re: Severance [Workday Three]

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tutuu wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:18 pm
Delta wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:39 pm
Scotty wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:05 pm
Delta wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:04 pm
Scotty wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:03 pm
Delta wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:00 pm I make a guess for each thread before daystart

3 exact guesses, win
5 alignment guesses right in 6, win
3 consecutive player guesses, win
:ponder:

I guess this makes more sense to give you more outs.

So theoretically, you could have won at the end of our d2 if you had guessed everything correctly by that point?

Do you fly away into the trees if you win or
yep, if I win I leave early
cant solo win
Oh, I thought you said you’d be a survivor if you don’t fulfill your other
I can keep guessing so that wincon is always there, it's just the overarching one is 'if youre alive by the end of it all, win'
Maybe I misunderstood then. "Don't fulfill wincon" -> "I can keep guessing". I parsed this as you can win after you die
What I meant is that the guessing aspect is always there, its not a case of 'wrong guess -> guessing disappears'
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Re: Severance [Workday Three]

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Wilgy is just always mafia fmpov, I think Delta first optimal, if he flips 3p we can think about who's the second one. PSV's poe seems correct is my initial reaction, Alexy and Lime Coe. I just disagree with the order, Delta first is miles better imo
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Re: Severance [Workday Three]

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WindwardAway wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:38 am Gira
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Quick question: what kind of gameplay was TSP exhibiting that made your thread suspicious of him/got him yeeted? Your entrance really clears up my
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Re: Severance [Workday Two]

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Cape90 wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:55 am
DrWilgy wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:54 pm [VOTE: Ilario] aubergine sure
this is a towny vote

depending on PSV's flip, Long Con's self pres is towny

So more likely then not Long Con is towny here
On paper I thought so too, but check out Tutuu’s case here

It’s certainly
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Re: Severance [Workday Three]

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Cape90 wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 6:00 am
Scotty wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:40 pm
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tutuu wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2023 10:46 pm viewtopic.php?t=2545

In this game wilgy was wolves with guillo

here is what happened EoD1:

viewtopic.php?p=1068080#p1068069

please look at this vote count and follow closely at the vote jumps, day ends a few posts below @Long Con @Scotty

guillo had 3 votes. me(town) had 3 votes. pyxxy(town) had 3 votes. wilgy is voting pyxxy

next vote count its 4-4 between me and guillo. wilgy is still on pyxxy, alone

day ends in a 5-5 tie, with wilgy voting guillo

wilgy could have easily not voted, or voted me, and gotten away with it

he also didnt see zenon's last vote shift to me. or he could have. in either way:

1) wilgy saw zenon voting me. it was 5-4 between me and his scum partner. he chose to tie up his partner

2) wilgy didnt see zenon voting me. he thought it was 4-4 between me and his scum partner. he chose to hammer the nail on his scum partner

wilgy is capable of doing egregious busses as wolf

i wouldn't townread him for voting ilario there

and the reason why i scumread him is because
DrWilgy wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:33 pm
Long Con wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:47 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:46 pm
tutuu wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:44 pm vote delta
for a
free
win
what kind of black magic is this?
Why are YOU voting me?
It felt that you were being kept at -1 somewhat forcibly while at the same time I mostly tr the players on you.

>>>Between you and psv, I think both may need to resolve.<<<
lc senior and psv are most likely both town so the bolded part is a crime against humanity. he was also trying to kill me. that's 3/3 town. yes he voted ilario and yes he voted delta but his heart wasnt in it. wilgy is an egregious busser
Noted. I am kinda weirded out that you have this ready to case against Wilgy, but this is a possibility I am considering.

Moving Wilgy to
Oh no! Notes?

Have you been in a scum chat before and if you have, why does this concern you :P?
nope never been in a scum chat

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Re: Severance [Workday Three]

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I think Lime Coke holds a lot of scum equity based on WWA’s answer to my question on how TSP played.

Because as a whole, mafia have a muddled focus. They have more info than they probably need from the other thread. I think the mafia, therefore, have a higher chance of being a bit…what’s the phrase…”out of focus”. That’s not a phrase, I just made that up. But still holds water.

Lime Coke has been all over the place this game. His head has not really been in the game.

Not to the same extent of Alexy, whose head has just not absorbed the thread most of the game. If that makes any sense.

My POE atm is
Delta > Wilgy > Lime Coke > Alexy in that
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Re: Severance [Workday Three]

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I don't know how much I'm going to be around today so since I'm on folks' poe I don't want you to waste time on that. I'm a town watcher. I had 2 opportunities to watch someone during separate night phases. Night 1 I watched psv, and Scotty had visited her. Night 2 I watched Long Con and nobody visited him. The latter is the same night I got the extra vote placed on me for today.
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Re: Severance [Workday Three]

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Sorry if I just misgendered you Long Con, I was having an rl conversation simultaneously and wasn't thinking about it
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Re: Severance [Workday Three]

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Alexy wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:44 pm I don't know how much I'm going to be around today so since I'm on folks' poe I don't want you to waste time on that. I'm a town watcher. I had 2 opportunities to watch someone during separate night phases. Night 1 I watched psv, and Scotty had visited her. Night 2 I watched Long Con and nobody visited him. The latter is the same night I got the extra vote placed on me for today.
Oh wow. That's very surprising to me. I thought we're all VTs. Huh, where did all these power roles came from?
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Re: Severance [Workday Three]

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Scotty wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:34 pm
WindwardAway wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:38 am Gira
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Hi WWA! Welcommen

Quick question: what kind of gameplay was TSP exhibiting that made your thread suspicious of him/got him yeeted? Your entrance really clears up my
Pushing anticonsensus reads
Ilario also never posted there
And people said TSP wolfy
But didn't vote him!

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Re: Severance [Workday Three]

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Alexy wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:44 pm I don't know how much I'm going to be around today so since I'm on folks' poe I don't want you to waste time on that. I'm a town watcher. I had 2 opportunities to watch someone during separate night phases. Night 1 I watched psv, and Scotty had visited her. Night 2 I watched Long Con and nobody visited him. The latter is the same night I got the extra vote placed on me for today.
You didn't watch Jack N2 because you believed that Scotty would be a protective role and on Jack?
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Re: Severance [Workday Three]

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Alexy wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:44 pm I don't know how much I'm going to be around today so since I'm on folks' poe I don't want you to waste time on that. I'm a town watcher. I had 2 opportunities to watch someone during separate night phases. Night 1 I watched psv, and Scotty had visited her. Night 2 I watched Long Con and nobody visited him. The latter is the same night I got the extra vote placed on me for today.
This checks out, I did visit psv night 1

Watcher def seems like a town role, though that shouldn’t hold too much weight objectively. I want to just townread you for
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Re: Severance [Workday Three]

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tutuu wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:56 pm
Alexy wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:44 pm I don't know how much I'm going to be around today so since I'm on folks' poe I don't want you to waste time on that. I'm a town watcher. I had 2 opportunities to watch someone during separate night phases. Night 1 I watched psv, and Scotty had visited her. Night 2 I watched Long Con and nobody visited him. The latter is the same night I got the extra vote placed on me for today.
Oh wow. That's very surprising to me. I thought we're all VTs. Huh, where did all these power roles came from?
Uhhh
I am not VT.

Jack and DM are confirmed not VT. Whatchu smokin,
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Re: Severance [Workday Three]

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WindwardAway wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:57 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:34 pm
WindwardAway wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:38 am Gira
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Pyxxy
Dizzy?

Leetic*

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Dead town: robyn, mac
Dead mafia: TSP (ilario)
Hi WWA! Welcommen

Quick question: what kind of gameplay was TSP exhibiting that made your thread suspicious of him/got him yeeted? Your entrance really clears up my
Pushing anticonsensus reads
Ilario also never posted there
And people said TSP wolfy
But didn't vote him!

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Shoot, ok. You have even fewer posts than Robyn did. That’s annoying. Wonder if it has to do with how late you die. Like if you had died the next phase you would only have 2 posts, and on the 4th cycle only 1,
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Re: Severance [Workday Three]

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tutuu wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:58 pm
Alexy wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:44 pm I don't know how much I'm going to be around today so since I'm on folks' poe I don't want you to waste time on that. I'm a town watcher. I had 2 opportunities to watch someone during separate night phases. Night 1 I watched psv, and Scotty had visited her. Night 2 I watched Long Con and nobody visited him. The latter is the same night I got the extra vote placed on me for today.
You didn't watch Jack N2 because you believed that Scotty would be a protective role and on Jack?
Based on how alexy responded to my claim, I don’t think she even saw it until this phase,
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Re: Severance [Workday Three]

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Town has a lot more power than I intuitively feel adequate based off what we've seen so I'm paranoid of wolves having something broken to compensate but it's outside of my control

Alexy double cleared not only because of the watcher but also receiving the vote, imo

Id argue I'm also double cleared for receiving the vote and us having confirmation Robyn was town (claimed by Delta and WWA)

Long Con safely cleared, somewhat. So-so. Due to WWA. Im just talking mech here ignoring the obvious social town reads
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tutuu wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:03 pm Town has a lot more power than I intuitively feel adequate based off what we've seen so I'm paranoid of wolves having something broken to compensate but it's outside of my control

Alexy double cleared not only because of the watcher but also receiving the vote, imo

Id argue I'm also double cleared for receiving the vote and us having confirmation Robyn was town (claimed by Delta and WWA)

Long Con safely cleared, somewhat. So-so. Due to WWA. Im just talking mech here ignoring the obvious social town reads
I don’t disagree you both are town, but why would you both be cleared for having an extra vote? What makes that a town ability to
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Scotty wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:59 pm
tutuu wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:56 pm
Alexy wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:44 pm I don't know how much I'm going to be around today so since I'm on folks' poe I don't want you to waste time on that. I'm a town watcher. I had 2 opportunities to watch someone during separate night phases. Night 1 I watched psv, and Scotty had visited her. Night 2 I watched Long Con and nobody visited him. The latter is the same night I got the extra vote placed on me for today.
Oh wow. That's very surprising to me. I thought we're all VTs. Huh, where did all these power roles came from?
Uhhh
I am not VT.

Jack and DM are confirmed not VT. Whatchu smokin,
No extra death, no fancy stuff, no nothing. Fmpov this was a lowkey mountainous game, I wasn't seeing anything happen. I didn't literally mean all of us VTs
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Re: Severance [Workday Three]

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tutuu wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:04 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:59 pm
tutuu wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:56 pm
Alexy wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:44 pm I don't know how much I'm going to be around today so since I'm on folks' poe I don't want you to waste time on that. I'm a town watcher. I had 2 opportunities to watch someone during separate night phases. Night 1 I watched psv, and Scotty had visited her. Night 2 I watched Long Con and nobody visited him. The latter is the same night I got the extra vote placed on me for today.
Oh wow. That's very surprising to me. I thought we're all VTs. Huh, where did all these power roles came from?
Uhhh
I am not VT.

Jack and DM are confirmed not VT. Whatchu smokin,
No extra death, no fancy stuff, no nothing. Fmpov this was a lowkey mountainous game, I wasn't seeing anything happen. I didn't literally mean all of us VTs
lol nothing about this game setup screams mountainous. If anything, I’m surprised at how many VTs we’ve seen already
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Scotty wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:04 pm
tutuu wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:03 pm Town has a lot more power than I intuitively feel adequate based off what we've seen so I'm paranoid of wolves having something broken to compensate but it's outside of my control

Alexy double cleared not only because of the watcher but also receiving the vote, imo

Id argue I'm also double cleared for receiving the vote and us having confirmation Robyn was town (claimed by Delta and WWA)

Long Con safely cleared, somewhat. So-so. Due to WWA. Im just talking mech here ignoring the obvious social town reads
I don’t disagree you both are town, but why would you both be cleared for having an extra vote? What makes that a town ability to
I feel like if that's a town ability town would be overloaded with power roles and abilities. In comparison to Ilario and TSP being goon, and we have no feedback of any possible mafia power role doing anything. So i'm concluding they at least have to have something, so it could be the extra votes
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Re: Severance [Workday Three]

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tutuu wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:06 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:04 pm
tutuu wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:03 pm Town has a lot more power than I intuitively feel adequate based off what we've seen so I'm paranoid of wolves having something broken to compensate but it's outside of my control

Alexy double cleared not only because of the watcher but also receiving the vote, imo

Id argue I'm also double cleared for receiving the vote and us having confirmation Robyn was town (claimed by Delta and WWA)

Long Con safely cleared, somewhat. So-so. Due to WWA. Im just talking mech here ignoring the obvious social town reads
I don’t disagree you both are town, but why would you both be cleared for having an extra vote? What makes that a town ability to
I feel like if that's a town ability town would be overloaded with power roles and abilities. In comparison to Ilario and TSP being goon, and we have no feedback of any possible mafia power role doing anything. So i'm concluding they at least have to have something, so it could be the extra votes
oh oh oh I misunderstood

Yes, I think getting an extra vote could be a wolf ability.

Who all has claimed to have an extra vote so far? Just you and alexy?
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Re: Severance [Workday Three]

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Yeah me and Alexy

I forgot to mention but actually Robyn told me that three people recrived an extra vote on D1 (after N0) in the other thread
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Scotty wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:01 pm
WindwardAway wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:57 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:34 pm
WindwardAway wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:38 am Gira
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Abbi(Porscha)

Pyxxy
Dizzy?

Leetic*

Ted*

Dead town: robyn, mac
Dead mafia: TSP (ilario)
Hi WWA! Welcommen

Quick question: what kind of gameplay was TSP exhibiting that made your thread suspicious of him/got him yeeted? Your entrance really clears up my
Pushing anticonsensus reads
Ilario also never posted there
And people said TSP wolfy
But didn't vote him!

(2 posts remain)
Shoot, ok. You have even fewer posts than Robyn did. That’s annoying. Wonder if it has to do with how late you die. Like if you had died the next phase you would only have 2 posts, and on the 4th cycle only 1,
Nutella+Mac paired, both died same night
I was NK'd, but LC is alive
tutuu wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:03 pm Town has a lot more power than I intuitively feel adequate based off what we've seen so I'm paranoid of wolves having something broken to compensate but it's outside of my control

Alexy double cleared not only because of the watcher but also receiving the vote, imo

Id argue I'm also double cleared for receiving the vote and us having confirmation Robyn was town (claimed by Delta and WWA)

Long Con safely cleared, somewhat. So-so. Due to WWA. Im just talking mech here ignoring the obvious social town reads
Neighborhood, not masonry!!!
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Scotty wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:04 pm
tutuu wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:03 pm Town has a lot more power than I intuitively feel adequate based off what we've seen so I'm paranoid of wolves having something broken to compensate but it's outside of my control

Alexy double cleared not only because of the watcher but also receiving the vote, imo

Id argue I'm also double cleared for receiving the vote and us having confirmation Robyn was town (claimed by Delta and WWA)

Long Con safely cleared, somewhat. So-so. Due to WWA. Im just talking mech here ignoring the obvious social town reads
I don’t disagree you both are town, but why would you both be cleared for having an extra vote? What makes that a town ability to
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Re: Severance [Workday Three]

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Neighborhood but so far all alignments have matched

But yeah its good to keep in mind a town/mafia pairing isn't out if the question

Also I really really bet Jay didn't randomize the pairings. Porscha being Abi just makes sense, I can see Long Con being WWA too. All pairings make a lot of sense for Jay to think "this person reminds me of this person". It's so funny if he did that lmao
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Re: Severance [Workday Three]

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tutuu wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:23 pm Neighborhood but so far all alignments have matched

But yeah its good to keep in mind a town/mafia pairing isn't out if the question

Also I really really bet Jay didn't randomize the pairings. Porscha being Abi just makes sense, I can see Long Con being WWA too. All pairings make a lot of sense for Jay to think "this person reminds me of this person". It's so funny if he did that lmao
Not me looking up the signups
I guess that would make me…like…Rondo? I
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[VOTE: Dr Wilgy ] aubergine
I think Delta is going over today and that's totally fine but the wagon needs no help from me. I'm just feeling things out.
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Scotty wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:36 pm
Cape90 wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:55 am
DrWilgy wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:54 pm [VOTE: Ilario] aubergine sure
this is a towny vote

depending on PSV's flip, Long Con's self pres is towny

So more likely then not Long Con is towny here
On paper I thought so too, but check out Tutuu’s case here

It’s certainly
Hm. Yeah seems worth considering
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Too many times have I seen mafia in Delta's situation claim 3p like they have and it makes me a bit too paranoid to like go off
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tutuu wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:38 pm
tutuu wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:27 pm Delta claimed he has two possible wincons - survive and three different types of correct guesses on who gets chopped in both threads. He claimed that even if he dies, he can still win with the second wincon. If Delta was truthful he has no reason to not claim instantly, and immediately start giving us info on the other thresd. He loses nothing, he doesn't even need to be alive as claimed by him. Even if he is 3p he is lying about something, his play doesn't make sense for it to be truthful
His play being:

-hide the fact that hes 3p and pretend to be town out of survival, when he doesnt even need to survive

-choose to not immediately tell us mech info about other thread from day 1, when making friends with town sounds good for him to achieve wincon and to be left alone

-try to discourage people from voting him "zzz boring, lame, wagon on me stagnant" while claiming and pretending he doesn't need to be alive to win

Like sure, Delta could be 3p but I'm really confident he's lying about something. Chopping a person who claims town over chopping a person who claims non-town is an unnecessary risk. At worst chopping Delta we just lose a 3p that was never on our side, at worst chopping anyone else flips us a town and then we're further behind.

Unless we wanna argue Delta should be alive until the end of the game, I would argue it's optimal to resolve him asap and read his flip. It might help for the other players too, given that Delta claimed a PR and most if us are VTs
I mean it makes sense to a point to "play agenda'd" from Delta's 3p claim perspective since they wanna see a whole different outcome and stuff
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TonyStarkPrime was the wolf team's bus driver, while Ilario was just a Goon.
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Re: Severance [Workday Three]

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scum read/lean: delta, lime,

could be town/wolf but mostly these are almost all town: tutuu, scotty, cape, alexy

probs town/lean: long con

town read: dr. wilgy, psv

vote breakdown:

jack - PSV, ilario = positive
delta - PSV, PSV = neutral
scotty - Porscha, Long Con = negative
cape - porscha, long con = negative
alexy - tutuu, no vote = neutral

dr wilgy - no vote, ilario = positive
lime coke - porscha, PSV = negative
long con - porscha, ilario = neutral
tutuu - porscha, delta = negative
potentialshervet - porscha, ilario = neutral
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@potentialsheltervet WWA and I have determined that your counterpart is likely rondo.

Extra votes seem to come from top wagons on the opposite side. Ilario-TSP, Long Con-WWA, PSV-Rondo.... TSP, WWA, and Rondo got the extra vote.
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Re: Severance [Workday Three]

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Delta is definitely 3p!

LC very towny.

Tell other thread I roleblocked leetic.

Ping me if questions.

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Re: Severance [Workday Three]

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Long Con wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 6:02 pm @potentialsheltervet WWA and I have determined that your counterpart is likely rondo.

Extra votes seem to come from top wagons on the opposite side. Ilario-TSP, Long Con-WWA, PSV-Rondo.... TSP, WWA, and Rondo got the extra vote.
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Re: Severance [Workday Three]

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Ok, so the wolves are Scotty and Alexy.

I am a 2-shot protector/blocker. I block AND protect a target twice in the game.

When Scotty first said he would protect Jack, I (like probably most) figured it was just to throw a doubt at the Wolves. Y'know. Make 'em question. I responded that I'd protect him as well, to get in on it. As one does. Thought nothing of it.

Then somewhere along the line recently, it became more than a sassyclaim... Scotty really was the doctor! Huh. And then Alexy came in with the Watchery info that Scotty targeted PSV on night 1, and Scotty confirmed it!

Great!

Then I was like... hmmm. Like, I'M the doctor, really... jailkeeper I guess is the actual term, but two real protectors, in the same half of the game?

And THEN I was like, wait a sec - I BLOCKED Scotty on Night 1!

So Alexy is lying about Watching Scotty target PSV, and Scotty is lying when he confirmed it!
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Re: Severance [Workday Three]

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Scotty wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 3:12 pm
tutuu wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:23 pm Neighborhood but so far all alignments have matched

But yeah its good to keep in mind a town/mafia pairing isn't out if the question

Also I really really bet Jay didn't randomize the pairings. Porscha being Abi just makes sense, I can see Long Con being WWA too. All pairings make a lot of sense for Jay to think "this person reminds me of this person". It's so funny if he did that lmao
Not me looking up the signups
I guess that would make me…like…Rondo? I
I think so too lmao
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