BEANS MAFIA - Day 6

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I can't be assed to fight this anymore

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Vote Wilgy

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I'm gonna go spend time with my gf gl hope I'm fucking wrong

[Jackofhearts2005]

Roxy has not posted in 3 hours. Wilgy and Nanook (and Epi) have not posted at all today.

Idk if this eod looks any different if we’re right vs if we’re wrong. Like if I’m wrong, wolves do nothing cause we’re wrong and if I’m right, wolves do nothing cause they aren’t here.

Makes my nerves feel a little better idk

[Delta]

I'd vote Roxy but I'm hesitant

There's been moments today where's she's talked about my play and it's been very different to what my play has actually been like & when I prompt her about it there's been a lot of 'I havent read your ISO' 'I dont really get how you play'

but I kinda feel like that's genuine? Which sounds silly but ;_; people tend to struggle with how I play the first time around so I can see those being genuine thoughts.

I dunno. I'm really unsure ab how she's posted about reading me vs how she's responded to me but I dont think it's inherently wolfy.

I also dont really want to kill Wilgy today because he feels a lot different to how I know he plays as a wolf.

I kinda want to be wrong & see either of them flip W but I'm very hesitant

[Epignosis]

Roxy has not posted in 3 hours. Wilgy and Nanook (and Epi) have not posted at all today.

Working my ass off my dude.

[Epignosis]

I have no issue with Wilgy going over today. Can never figure him out anyway.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Roxy has not posted in 3 hours. Wilgy and Nanook (and Epi) have not posted at all today.

Working my ass off my dude.

Which is fine. It’s just that feeling of DADV but the only person anyone thinks is mafia that has been posting is me and I know I’m town so I’m gonna get that DADV feeling regardless of Wilgy’s alignment.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I still don’t like getting that feeling.

[Epignosis]

@Roxy popped in at the end and voted for Thunal. Not sure if she read from her previous last post or looked at the poll first. I would wager no. Roxy? Is Thunal your preference for today's vote?

@DrWilgy are you gonna get snuggly down here with us, or what?

This is actually kind of funny.

[pyxxy]

Roxy has not posted in 3 hours. Wilgy and Nanook (and Epi) have not posted at all today.

Idk if this eod looks any different if we’re right vs if we’re wrong. Like if I’m wrong, wolves do nothing cause we’re wrong and if I’m right, wolves do nothing cause they aren’t here.

Makes my nerves feel a little better idk

This is where I settled after chewing on Delta's town-driven vs wolf-driven thoughts.

I sus Wilgy more than Roxy so if y'all start moving in her direction I would probably vote Wilgy. Just to be transparent.

And honestly you're not wrong about nook being a shrug yeet. But I also thought voting nook would get some action going and maybe wilgy/nook would appear and solving would happen. Was quite wrong about that, I guess :/

Nook is just being nook. I can't read him. He's not doing anything that I would consider attempting to leave the low poster poe. So long as he's nook, scum will leave him alive. A looming problem if we find ourselves in FX.

Especially since he hasn't shown up. I guess I'm just hoping nook votes scum at some point and then we can clear him.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Is Wilgy/Roxy your solve atp Epi?

[pyxxy]

DADV means dead thread dead villy right

[Delta]

DADV means dead thread dead villy right

Yep

[Delta]

I hate EODs

Worst part of forum ;_;

[Jackofhearts2005]

We are almost at the point where we can confirm Roxy/Wilgy as the correct solve because they aren’t self preserving (this is a joke)

[Jackofhearts2005]

DADV means dead thread dead villy right

Yes.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Dead air but same thing

[Epignosis]

Is Wilgy/Roxy your solve atp Epi?

I wouldn't use that strong of language.

I haven't had a chance to even read what Roxy had to say to day, so I feel bad about that.

There's one interaction between LC and DW that I see, and it's a big damn softball.

But those are my top two suspects, yeah.

[Epignosis]

Can someone summarize the Wilgy vote for my own satisfaction?

[pyxxy]

kinda miss seanzie rn

[Delta]

I hope I'm wrong but staying here, it's not decisive anyway but just. I dunno

I really hope I'm wrong on Wilgy and just look silly x_x I hate how quiet this is

[pyxxy]

was hoping someone else would chime in to answer Epi

Thunal's reasoning:

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... r-Remix%29

@Thunal33 this is the game I'm on about above

I wont put anyone through the wonders of my ISO but if you check Wilgy's intro there vs here there's a pretty big difference

I can definitely see the difference, but I also played a game with wolf Wilgy where he only posted emojis for the first day phase. I think his range for what intros he can make is pretty big and not always AI.

I agree with Jack. Imo, Wilgy’s flip would tell more about how valid the PoE is than Nanook’s flip. Nanook feels like the shrug elim that tells us nothing here.

not sure I have time for more

[DrWilgy]

Oh look. It me.

Legacy.

Get good sleep and brush your teeth twice daily after meals.

[Justplayingitcool]

Day 3 is over. Please standby.

[Justplayingitcool]

Spoiler: show

S~V~S
0
No votes


Voters: None

DrWilgy
4
29%


Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Thunal33, Jackofhearts2005, ☆Princess Abigail☆

Thunal33
0
No votes


Voters: None

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
2
14%


Voters: Delta, pyxxy

Delta
0
No votes


Voters: None

pyxxy
0
No votes


Voters: None

Epignosis
0
No votes


Voters: None

Roxy
1
7%


Voters: Epignosis

Dyslexicon/Princess Abigail
0
No votes


Voters: None

Jackofhearts2005
1
7%


Voters: S~V~S

No vote
0
No votes


Voters: None

BEANS (spec, dead, mod)
6
43%


Voters: robyn, Seanzie, Scotty, leetic, Justplayingitcool, JaggedJimmyJay

[Justplayingitcool]

DrWilgy has been eliminated. They were Kidney beans: Vanilla Town

Night phase will run a bit longer due to a personal scheduling conflict. Apologies for the inconvenience. Day 4 will begin on the 20th, 11PM BST.

[Justplayingitcool]

Sorry for being late on this...

Thunal33 has been killed. They were Beano: Vanilla Town

It is now Day 4. Day phase will end on the 22/10/2023 11PM BST

[S~V~S]

Imma vote for Jack. I think he was partnered with LC.

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

[Jackofhearts2005]

Imma vote for Jack. I think he was partnered with LC.

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

Ffs do something besides repeat this. Please.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Thunal dying sucks. Wifom if the poe is still good but our reads matched almost exactly.

[Epignosis]

I was under the mistaken impression that I had written my well-wishes to Roxy after her mishap, but I read of that news during a Night phase and could not post. Roxy, I'm glad you're on the mend and I hope you feel better very soon.

I'm bad.
Bye.

FYI to everyone - I do not remember posting this, as I was in the hospital. Sorry for any confusion.

In vino veritas?

[Epignosis]

Roxy was in the hospital and she voted me becasue she knew I could deal with that. I 100000% think she would not do that if she were bad (I originally wrote "do that bad", I have to get that wording out of my head), use our irl friendship as a chip or ploy in a game. Nuh uh.

I need you to sell me on this. I don't doubt the last sentence (or second to last sentence- "Nuh uh" isn't something to be doubted).

However, you're operating under the assumption that Roxy was in her right mind when she voted you.

The vote for you came after the "I'm bad bye" post (I acknowledge the time differential, but Roxy still mentioned pain and I assume being on pain killers).

A completely viable alternative here (for Roxy) is to vote the UNVOTE option.

I ask this of you because I trust your alignment more than Jack's at this stage, but I'm agreeing with more of Jack's posts.

To reword what I'm looking for, assume the position that:

Roxy is mafia.
Roxy gets hurt, gets medical treatment, is in pain / on medication, comes into the thread, needs to vote.
What does she do?

[Epignosis]

I might legit self vote if it saves Wilgy at EoD

Vote Wilgy

Glad you ain't my bodyguard.

[Epignosis]

[VOTE: Roxy] aubergine but looking forward to hearing from S~V~S (or anybody else).

Because if this is spot on:

Abi, SVS, pyxxy, and Delta are town. If you need to reconstruct the PoE tomorrow then do it, but don’t include those four. Unless there’s significant new evidence I wouldn’t seriously consider them until lylo.

Then the options are Nanook, Roxy, and Jack (and if there's three mafia, you get your choice of two).

I am not an option.

I do wonder why Thunal was so certain on pyxxy, but that's on me for not asking when I could.

[pyxxy]

[VOTE: Roxy] aubergine but looking forward to hearing from S~V~S (or anybody else).

Because if this is spot on:

Abi, SVS, pyxxy, and Delta are town. If you need to reconstruct the PoE tomorrow then do it, but don’t include those four. Unless there’s significant new evidence I wouldn’t seriously consider them until lylo.

Then the options are Nanook, Roxy, and Jack (and if there's three mafia, you get your choice of two).

I am not an option.

I do wonder why Thunal was so certain on pyxxy, but that's on me for not asking when I could.

any nka on why Thunal died? share your thoughts and I'll share mine

[pyxxy]

also heads up I need slank cover for tomorrow, attending a wedding pretty much all day

[Epignosis]

[VOTE: Roxy] aubergine but looking forward to hearing from S~V~S (or anybody else).

Because if this is spot on:

Abi, SVS, pyxxy, and Delta are town. If you need to reconstruct the PoE tomorrow then do it, but don’t include those four. Unless there’s significant new evidence I wouldn’t seriously consider them until lylo.

Then the options are Nanook, Roxy, and Jack (and if there's three mafia, you get your choice of two).

I am not an option.

I do wonder why Thunal was so certain on pyxxy, but that's on me for not asking when I could.

any nka on why Thunal died? share your thoughts and I'll share mine

Oh yes, lots. Here:

Spoiler: show

Thunal is pretty damn good.

[pyxxy]

Spoiler: show

it feels very catch-22

thunal legacied by saying if wilgy flips town, the game is harder + look at jack

she did see wilgy/nook as maybe a difference check?

sorry I wanted to wait for Epi to respond but also I wanted to get thoughts out so spoiler if my compromise

Thunal death feels like a desire to expand the poe because of her townlocks only to be reconsidered in FX/xilo, and that felt very firm

but also, we're in a harder game now, so expanding the poe almost seems natural, unless we really did just pick the townie amongst the scum yesterday. that would be frustrating and funny

but I dont and didnt think roxy was scum. I was down for nook ofc. not sure about jack either. I think I was counting on wilgy scum more than I realized, like yeah I'm in a rut after my Abigail tinfoil

this is unfortunate

[pyxxy]

[VOTE: Roxy] aubergine but looking forward to hearing from S~V~S (or anybody else).

Because if this is spot on:

Abi, SVS, pyxxy, and Delta are town. If you need to reconstruct the PoE tomorrow then do it, but don’t include those four. Unless there’s significant new evidence I wouldn’t seriously consider them until lylo.

Then the options are Nanook, Roxy, and Jack (and if there's three mafia, you get your choice of two).

I am not an option.

I do wonder why Thunal was so certain on pyxxy, but that's on me for not asking when I could.

any nka on why Thunal died? share your thoughts and I'll share mine

Oh yes, lots. Here:

Spoiler: show

Thunal is pretty damn good.

facts

[Epignosis]

My vote on Roxy reflects where my head is now. I am eager to hear from S~V~S when she gets a chance to do so.

On paper, Roxy (to me) is the most likely to be mafia. But that's on paper, and I've admitted many times before that I am awful to figuring Roxy out, and her recent circumstances don't change that.

"I'm bad. Bye." still gets the old chin scratch.

[Delta]

hihi o/ good morning

I'll be around later on, gg to Thunal & Wilgy \o/

[S~V~S]

@Epignosis

I think it was a throwaway vote. I myself (who voted unvote that day) did not realize it was an option until I was trying to decide where to move my vote since jack was sounding a bit towny to me, and LC, less so, when i popped in towards EOD.

It's not so much the vote itself, it's the way Roxy came back from it. My initial reaction to the vote

I'm hurt, pain killer
Can only do this to a friend bc I know she'll understand and know it means nothing


vote svs

You know I <3 you and nothing that happens in a game changes that. But I don't actually understand this vote? Especially I seemed to gather a last minute push?

Hope you feel better and explain for me.

I missed the "I'm hurt' pain killer part". I also missed the part where the game mod announced Rox was in hospital. So I was initially perplexed as well.

When she came back, before I posted that I had missed Splints mod post, she posted this:

I'm hurt, pain killer
Can only do this to a friend bc I know she'll understand and know it means nothing


vote svs

You know I <3 you and nothing that happens in a game changes that. But I don't actually understand this vote? Especially I seemed to gather a last minute push?

Hope you feel better and explain for me.

I am unsure of what explanation you want. I was in the hospital under observation on Delaudid from the take down my new dog did to me (he pulled me so hard my face was smashed into the concrete of my driveway/alley area).
I wanted to vote but had not read youv'e seen me do this to splints (usually my go to) and Kate. It's not like this is new for me.

For you kids out there I am old and think I can still bounce back when hurt but my body does not bounce anymore.

I voted you thinking you were thought of as town by most people including me so I did not think others would try to use my drug induced vote as an excuse to try and wagon you.
LongCon understandable but others - not so much. Who else was voting you I do not remember at this moment. But I will look there for people trying to take advantage of it.

This post was sincere, and I don't think Rox, based on years of playing with her, would have made that post up there ^^ "I'm hurt, pain killer", knowing her alleged teammates (and aside from LC, the others who piled onto Roxys vote were Jack and Delta) would use it as a platform to vote for me.

Delta went to LC after Thunal came in and beat everyone over the head over how towny I was (thanks Thunal!). So I'm in the air re Delta, if Jack flips as I think he will, then I think Delta could be the third. But I feel it more so about Jack.

I think the bads took advantage of Roxys vote, I think she's the least likely wolf who was on my wagon. Thunal broke it apart at the end, and the fact that Wilgy came back town after her Seanzie POE push would have made her reassess her position, imo. She was easily the strongest towny presence in the thread, and that's why she died.

But back to Roxy, that original post, where she votes me and says shes hurt. Bad Roxy doesn't do that. In my previous eloquent words, nuh uh. Bad Roxy won't manipulate friendship in a game that way, saying "I'm hurt" to an old friend and trotting back to the chatroom to giggle over how she fooled me. I know some folks think that opinion is "icky" or whatever, but it is what it is.

Rox when she came back , I 1000% agree with this post.

[VOTE: SVS] aubergine

[VOTE: SVS] aubergine

Is this in any way influenced by Roxy's vote on SVS?

Yes in that 2 votes are better than 1. Roxy didn’t like convince me to suspect SVS.

That is kinda a townie post from SVS, isn’t it?

I did not sway your vote with mine yet-----2 votes are better than one? How is this townie? Your thought process over SVS did not feel genuine and felt instead like you trying to save LongCon's ass. You went in with a couple of pulled quotes from SVS and when Thunal showed you how it was so very townie you even agreed it was townie posts.
Jack you are bad and I find that sad bc as a townie you can decimate people with their posts and show just how anti town or townie they are. You have done neither this game.

[VOTE: SVS] aubergine

I'll mull over the LC vote overnight since I'm more than a little worried about that

I'm also worried ab SVS being town because that means I went and locked them town then panicked when it mattered which is

rough but shrug

EOD is stressful ;_;

This is the perfect example of Delta's play this game. Not digging it at all. Flip Floppy. Goes anywhere but LongCon until it was obv he was getting elimmed.

Phone check-in. Not caught up but voting SVS to self-pres.

The only SVS vote I understand bc it is coming from a baddie toward a townie.

And I pretty much have 'felt' everything else she said since then. She just feels real to me

Like I said, no matter how polished his posts are, I think Jack is LC's teammate. I'm home most of today, I'll do an associations post or two later.

[S~V~S]

I’ll be gone for EoD. If Wilgy flips wolf, look at Roxy or Epi first. Nanook would be tinfoil level and not a first suspect. If Wilgy flips town, I think the game is harder than I expected and I’d look at Jack more closely. If Wilgy flips town I think our PoE is flawed.

If Nanook flips wolf I was probably wrong on Wilgy. If Nanook flips town I’d kill Wilgy unless there’s significant new evidence.

Abi, SVS, pyxxy, and Delta are town. If you need to reconstruct the PoE tomorrow then do it, but don’t include those four. Unless there’s significant new evidence I wouldn’t seriously consider them until lylo.

If I don’t survive the night, good luck town.

This is why Thunal was killed ^^^^

[S~V~S]

Addendum @Epignosis if you recall "Unvote" was never an option in the day, and I don't look for it or even notice it unless I actively look at the list of players in the poll, which I seldom, if ever, do. I did in this game since I was actively singing Happy Birthday at the time I wanted to move off Jack, and had no idea where to go.

So Roxy not using that option is not surprising to me.

[S~V~S]

Jack is the first person to defend me from a fake red check. I don't know if I should be happy or concerned

Oh.

Okie dokie. Let's yeet Jack

[VOTE: Jackoftarts] aubergine

I'll join you, better wagon than the current biggest one [VOTE: Jack] aubergine

Hell yeah, let's goooooo

It’s weird that I actually have a scumread on Wilgy but I do. Feelsbadman.

No you don't lmao. Get out of here.

Ran into this ISOing LC; QFT from Wilgy.

[S~V~S]

I have no scumreads. Can someone make an obvious scumslip so I can get one?

There's no way I'm one of the three mafia members!

Just quoting cause it made me lol.

[S~V~S]

Imma vote for Jack. I think he was partnered with LC.

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

Ffs do something besides repeat this. Please.

What do you think has happened that would change my mind? Wilgy flipping town? Thunal getting NKed? Those things kinda deepened my resolve.

People don't just drop their suspects for no reason.

We are almost at the point where we can confirm Roxy/Wilgy as the correct solve because they aren’t self preserving (this is a joke)

Almost, but not quite, eh?

So we want to flip someone to see how valid the POE is rather than because we think they’re a wolf?

My vote is good where it is. I think he’s bad regardless of anyone else’s POE.

Is there anyone in particular you think would be my partner or would never ever be my partner?

Overall, I had felt pretty good about Delta, but their pile onto me for no discernable reason whatsoever puts them in the possible "Jack/LC partner" camp. Especially when they didn't really push back against Thunal at all when she started posting my townier moments, just dropped their SVS vote like a hot potato. A vote they didn't really seem to believe in when they made it. You kinda hot potatoed it too, actually, now that I think about it.

I can't read Nook whatsoever, he's just a happy warm presence, and can't recall much they have said this game without looking it up. So he could potentially be bad, but mostly based on "lack of good" more so than "active bad".

Abigail is usually somewhat snarky with me, and her being so nice to me freaks me out a bit, since I know I am subject to pocketing a bit. But I still don't see her gambit coming from a wolfy place; shaking up the thread from a focus on one persons thoughts was totally pro town, and people can be nice without an agenda. So I do think she's town, but wanted to point out that caveat.

And I have reason to think Roxy, Epi and pyxxy are town.

[S~V~S]

EBWOP re unvote option, I actually realized it was an option after Epi had done it earlier in the game.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Sighs