Hotdog Fingers Mafia [Game over, Mafia won]

[WindwardAway]

Also completely forgot pyxxy was playing anyone have a read there

Ngl i don't remember his posts

[WindwardAway]

I have had a quiet Sean/Wind dichotomy rolling around since mid d1. Idr why but it feels right

I'm perfectly fine with doming Seanzie if you want us to be wagons for today
If Sean actually flips town then I'll just suck it and flip tomorrow but I genuinely do not get why I should think he's town

I mean he's completely right, I'm not searching for town Seanzie because I keep reading his posts and thinking "that's a post" and not "that's a very good point he's got" like i did in the last game and it's bothering me

[nutella]

There is at least one wolf in Neon/Lily.

That's also my thought but idk how confident I am in it, probably less than you

hmmm

[nutella]

dont overthink it

(but blame wind)

Wind's take was not spicy.

Yes, thank you
I was wondering why she said that

hmmmmm

[WindwardAway]

There is at least one wolf in Neon/Lily.

That's also my thought but idk how confident I am in it, probably less than you

hmmm

Oh thanks for reminding me lily flipped town
I was thinking one of those two names was gonna flip wolf with Seanzie
So I guess I'll look at neon again if Seanzie flips wolf which he probably will, if he doesn't, oh well

[WindwardAway]

Sorry I'm not really invested in this game rn

[WindwardAway]

Vibing is fun and solving is fun but I'm just sitting on a wolf!Seanzie take and not really solving any further, I'm completely aware of that and frankly I'm fine with doing so

[nutella]

There is at least one wolf in Neon/Lily.

That's also my thought but idk how confident I am in it, probably less than you

hmmm

Oh thanks for reminding me lily flipped town
I was thinking one of those two names was gonna flip wolf with Seanzie
So I guess I'll look at neon again if Seanzie flips wolf which he probably will, if he doesn't, oh well

Would you look at neon if seanzie flips town though bc spoiler I definitely would

[nutella]

I mean I think if hes town that early dichotomy was pretty silly and arbitrary but also neon is in my poe so

[nutella]

Vibing is fun and solving is fun but I'm just sitting on a wolf!Seanzie take and not really solving any further, I'm completely aware of that and frankly I'm fine with doing so

Youre cool

[WindwardAway]

There is at least one wolf in Neon/Lily.

That's also my thought but idk how confident I am in it, probably less than you

hmmm

Oh thanks for reminding me lily flipped town
I was thinking one of those two names was gonna flip wolf with Seanzie
So I guess I'll look at neon again if Seanzie flips wolf which he probably will, if he doesn't, oh well

Would you look at neon if seanzie flips town though bc spoiler I definitely would

I would look at Neon regardless of Seanzie's flip tbh but especially if Seanzie flips town

[WindwardAway]

There is at least one wolf in Neon/Lily.

That's also my thought but idk how confident I am in it, probably less than you

hmmm

Oh thanks for reminding me lily flipped town
I was thinking one of those two names was gonna flip wolf with Seanzie
So I guess I'll look at neon again if Seanzie flips wolf which he probably will, if he doesn't, oh well

Would you look at neon if seanzie flips town though bc spoiler I definitely would

I would look at Neon regardless of Seanzie's flip tbh but especially if Seanzie flips town

Actually maybe I retract the "especially if Seanzie flips town" part
Neon was in my PoE anyway

[Seanzie]

You might be town and Mac is just openwolfing but I have a very hard time seeing that world atp.

How are me and Mac connected in any way?

He tunnels me, I tunnel you, he somehow thinks we are w/w, there is a weird vee of interaction there that I have a hard time seeing as all town

You tunneling me should not affect your Seanzie/Mac read.

So you think Mac and I have a diff check because Mac thinks you and I are w/w?

[nutella]

You might be town and Mac is just openwolfing but I have a very hard time seeing that world atp.

How are me and Mac connected in any way?

He tunnels me, I tunnel you, he somehow thinks we are w/w, there is a weird vee of interaction there that I have a hard time seeing as all town

You tunneling me should not affect your Seanzie/Mac read.

So you think Mac and I have a diff check because Mac thinks you and I are w/w?

I'm not sure now lol but I thought so yesterday.

[Seanzie]

Whatever, im sticking with keeping my vote where it was yesterday. Seanzie, you haven't convinced me youre town.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Honestly I don't feel like you're looking for town!Seanzie.

I'm not, because I think there's a lack of what I saw in the champs practice game and that's good enough for me.

I meantioned in Champs practice that I was playing in a specific way, I mentioned here that I was playing Champs practice in a specific way, at yet you don't bother to verify this at all and instead scumread me for percieved differences without being willing to reconsider? What am I to make of that?

One of your early "differences" was that in Champs practice I did both scumreads and townreads early. It actually use to be a scumtell for me to state townreads, and I still often don't bother to townhunt as town, so your understanding of me is way off, and you have plenty of people in the thread that know me better than you do to help shape your understanding.

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: WWA[\vote]] aubergine

[Seanzie]

Ugh, I keep writing things but my internet keeps cutting out wrasing the posts I wrote.

[Seanzie]

I know it is early in the day, but I am worried about the current gamestate, and based off it, I think I'm already a reasonable candidate for elim today, and I kind of doubt that is going to change (many people who can be heavy hitters are on the sidelines, and if that remains true, this threadstate will not significantly change by EoD).

Currently though the people pushing me are doing so with nothing. Nutella has "vibes" and "Mac and TSP" stuff. Kate is sheeping this, and WWA because I am different than a game which I played in a very different way than I usually play.

Can y'all help me encourage these people to actually come at me? If I'm a wolf, they have prime opporunities to spew themselves town on me, and if I'm town and we currently sleepwalk into a Seanzie elim with these sorts of cases, y'all don't learn anything from my flip.

[nutella]

I know it is early in the day, but I am worried about the current gamestate, and based off it, I think I'm already a reasonable candidate for elim today, and I kind of doubt that is going to change (many people who can be heavy hitters are on the sidelines, and if that remains true, this threadstate will not significantly change by EoD).

Currently though the people pushing me are doing so with nothing. Nutella has "vibes" and "Mac and TSP" stuff. Kate is sheeping this, and WWA because I am different than a game which I played in a very different way than I usually play.

Can y'all help me encourage these people to actually come at me? If I'm a wolf, they have prime opporunities to spew themselves town on me, and if I'm town and we currently sleepwalk into a Seanzie elim with these sorts of cases, y'all don't learn anything from my flip.

why aren't you pushing neon today?

[Seanzie]

I know it is early in the day, but I am worried about the current gamestate, and based off it, I think I'm already a reasonable candidate for elim today, and I kind of doubt that is going to change (many people who can be heavy hitters are on the sidelines, and if that remains true, this threadstate will not significantly change by EoD).

Currently though the people pushing me are doing so with nothing. Nutella has "vibes" and "Mac and TSP" stuff. Kate is sheeping this, and WWA because I am different than a game which I played in a very different way than I usually play.

Can y'all help me encourage these people to actually come at me? If I'm a wolf, they have prime opporunities to spew themselves town on me, and if I'm town and we currently sleepwalk into a Seanzie elim with these sorts of cases, y'all don't learn anything from my flip.

why aren't you pushing neon today?

I cannot recall any feeling I've had towards Neon or anything they've done, so mostly they just aren't on my mind. I know you quoted a post where I said something about Neon, but clearly it wasn't that important to me since I don't remember making it or what I was feeling when I made it.

[Kate]

Something deeply disturbing and deeply hilarious is going on here. Also confusing.

One thing town me doesn’t care for is people claiming to be town leaders and telling us who we’re gonna yeet. Ugh.

So my first vote goes to [VOTE: nutella] aubergine

Might change it might not.

Ugh. Why? I'm not sure I agree with this but it doesn't change my opinion of your towniness bf anyone jumps in with that again.

[Seanzie]

I know it is early in the day, but I am worried about the current gamestate, and based off it, I think I'm already a reasonable candidate for elim today, and I kind of doubt that is going to change (many people who can be heavy hitters are on the sidelines, and if that remains true, this threadstate will not significantly change by EoD).

Currently though the people pushing me are doing so with nothing. Nutella has "vibes" and "Mac and TSP" stuff. Kate is sheeping this, and WWA because I am different than a game which I played in a very different way than I usually play.

Can y'all help me encourage these people to actually come at me? If I'm a wolf, they have prime opporunities to spew themselves town on me, and if I'm town and we currently sleepwalk into a Seanzie elim with these sorts of cases, y'all don't learn anything from my flip.

why aren't you pushing neon today?

I cannot recall any feeling I've had towards Neon or anything they've done, so mostly they just aren't on my mind. I know you quoted a post where I said something about Neon, but clearly it wasn't that important to me since I don't remember making it or what I was feeling when I made it.

Yeah, you're confusing me saying things to see what things happen with things I think. Reasonable mistake, but still a mistake.

[Kate]

Something deeply disturbing and deeply hilarious is going on here. Also confusing.

One thing town me doesn’t care for is people claiming to be town leaders and telling us who we’re gonna yeet. Ugh.

So my first vote goes to [VOTE: nutella] aubergine

Might change it might not.

hiiiiiii

Sooo (ok screw it I'm dropping the gimmick for this post sorry)

I'm 95% sure nutella gave Kate some sort of green check on nutella

Kate's post being like "does anyone else think we should trust nutella?" Is the sort of question she asks when she's trying to imply something. A stupid question with no explanation. Idk how to explain it better than, trust me, she is my mother

AND nutella being like "it is CLEARLY something else" is them trying to get the point across that it was a green check

Either they are t/t, Kate is w and doesn't want to be outed to nutella, or they are w/w in my eyes and I think Kate is town

:pppp blehh

Thanks, son.

[Kate]

Something deeply disturbing and deeply hilarious is going on here. Also confusing.

One thing town me doesn’t care for is people claiming to be town leaders and telling us who we’re gonna yeet. Ugh.

So my first vote goes to [VOTE: nutella] aubergine

Might change it might not.

hiiiiiii

Sooo (ok screw it I'm dropping the gimmick for this post sorry)

I'm 95% sure nutella gave Kate some sort of green check on nutella

Kate's post being like "does anyone else think we should trust nutella?" Is the sort of question she asks when she's trying to imply something. A stupid question with no explanation. Idk how to explain it better than, trust me, she is my mother

AND nutella being like "it is CLEARLY something else" is them trying to get the point across that it was a green check

Either they are t/t, Kate is w and doesn't want to be outed to nutella, or they are w/w in my eyes and I think Kate is town

:pppp blehh

Thanks, son.

Let me try that again.

Thanks, son.

[pyxxy]

ummm, hi

I'm not dead, I just had a hell of a long weekend

[nutella]

I know it is early in the day, but I am worried about the current gamestate, and based off it, I think I'm already a reasonable candidate for elim today, and I kind of doubt that is going to change (many people who can be heavy hitters are on the sidelines, and if that remains true, this threadstate will not significantly change by EoD).

Currently though the people pushing me are doing so with nothing. Nutella has "vibes" and "Mac and TSP" stuff. Kate is sheeping this, and WWA because I am different than a game which I played in a very different way than I usually play.

Can y'all help me encourage these people to actually come at me? If I'm a wolf, they have prime opporunities to spew themselves town on me, and if I'm town and we currently sleepwalk into a Seanzie elim with these sorts of cases, y'all don't learn anything from my flip.

why aren't you pushing neon today?

I cannot recall any feeling I've had towards Neon or anything they've done, so mostly they just aren't on my mind. I know you quoted a post where I said something about Neon, but clearly it wasn't that important to me since I don't remember making it or what I was feeling when I made it.

you insisted neon/lily contained wolf, you spent a few posts on this so i was under the impression it was a strong take at least for d1 standards

[nutella]

I know it is early in the day, but I am worried about the current gamestate, and based off it, I think I'm already a reasonable candidate for elim today, and I kind of doubt that is going to change (many people who can be heavy hitters are on the sidelines, and if that remains true, this threadstate will not significantly change by EoD).

Currently though the people pushing me are doing so with nothing. Nutella has "vibes" and "Mac and TSP" stuff. Kate is sheeping this, and WWA because I am different than a game which I played in a very different way than I usually play.

Can y'all help me encourage these people to actually come at me? If I'm a wolf, they have prime opporunities to spew themselves town on me, and if I'm town and we currently sleepwalk into a Seanzie elim with these sorts of cases, y'all don't learn anything from my flip.

why aren't you pushing neon today?

I cannot recall any feeling I've had towards Neon or anything they've done, so mostly they just aren't on my mind. I know you quoted a post where I said something about Neon, but clearly it wasn't that important to me since I don't remember making it or what I was feeling when I made it.

Yeah, you're confusing me saying things to see what things happen with things I think. Reasonable mistake, but still a mistake.

??? what

[Seanzie]

I know it is early in the day, but I am worried about the current gamestate, and based off it, I think I'm already a reasonable candidate for elim today, and I kind of doubt that is going to change (many people who can be heavy hitters are on the sidelines, and if that remains true, this threadstate will not significantly change by EoD).

Currently though the people pushing me are doing so with nothing. Nutella has "vibes" and "Mac and TSP" stuff. Kate is sheeping this, and WWA because I am different than a game which I played in a very different way than I usually play.

Can y'all help me encourage these people to actually come at me? If I'm a wolf, they have prime opporunities to spew themselves town on me, and if I'm town and we currently sleepwalk into a Seanzie elim with these sorts of cases, y'all don't learn anything from my flip.

why aren't you pushing neon today?

I cannot recall any feeling I've had towards Neon or anything they've done, so mostly they just aren't on my mind. I know you quoted a post where I said something about Neon, but clearly it wasn't that important to me since I don't remember making it or what I was feeling when I made it.

you insisted neon/lily contained wolf, you spent a few posts on this so i was under the impression it was a strong take at least for d1 standards

Yes, but I didn't remember ever saying that until I went back and looked, so I know it wasn't a strong take, but I can understand why you'd be confused. Instead I was pushing Lily and Neon in order to see how they and the thread react. This is like 99.5% of my town gameplay. the other 0.05% is getting tunnels wrong.

[nutella]

.....okay fine but what is your current take on neon because at the moment i would be perfectly happy to band together and vote her lol

[Seanzie]

I know it is early in the day, but I am worried about the current gamestate, and based off it, I think I'm already a reasonable candidate for elim today, and I kind of doubt that is going to change (many people who can be heavy hitters are on the sidelines, and if that remains true, this threadstate will not significantly change by EoD).

Currently though the people pushing me are doing so with nothing. Nutella has "vibes" and "Mac and TSP" stuff. Kate is sheeping this, and WWA because I am different than a game which I played in a very different way than I usually play.

Can y'all help me encourage these people to actually come at me? If I'm a wolf, they have prime opporunities to spew themselves town on me, and if I'm town and we currently sleepwalk into a Seanzie elim with these sorts of cases, y'all don't learn anything from my flip.

why aren't you pushing neon today?

I cannot recall any feeling I've had towards Neon or anything they've done, so mostly they just aren't on my mind. I know you quoted a post where I said something about Neon, but clearly it wasn't that important to me since I don't remember making it or what I was feeling when I made it.

Yeah, you're confusing me saying things to see what things happen with things I think. Reasonable mistake, but still a mistake.

??? what

I care less about read accuracy and more about getting people to do AI things, especially early game. I have a good win record, so clearly this isn't the worst technique.

I purposefully overconfidentally state takes to get people to react to them, and then let other people figure out everyone's alignments based on how people react to me. I'm sure I felt something about Neon and Lily at the time, but the fact that I didn't remember that suspicion today strongly suggests to me that it was exactly that - an overstated read to see what happens.

[Seanzie]

.....okay fine but what is your current take on neon because at the moment i would be perfectly happy to band together and vote her lol

I don't remember a single thing Neon has done or said. Which... is probably bad.

However I gotta go teach and so I will look closely at them LATER.

[nutella]

oh, ok i get it

[nutella]

[VOTE: neon] aubergine

[Dennis]

Something deeply disturbing and deeply hilarious is going on here. Also confusing.

One thing town me doesn’t care for is people claiming to be town leaders and telling us who we’re gonna yeet. Ugh.

So my first vote goes to [VOTE: nutella] aubergine

Might change it might not.

hiiiiiii

Sooo (ok screw it I'm dropping the gimmick for this post sorry)

I'm 95% sure nutella gave Kate some sort of green check on nutella

Kate's post being like "does anyone else think we should trust nutella?" Is the sort of question she asks when she's trying to imply something. A stupid question with no explanation. Idk how to explain it better than, trust me, she is my mother

AND nutella being like "it is CLEARLY something else" is them trying to get the point across that it was a green check

Either they are t/t, Kate is w and doesn't want to be outed to nutella, or they are w/w in my eyes and I think Kate is town

:pppp blehh

Thanks, son.

Let me try that again.

Thanks, son.

Oh cmoooonn ya know I love ya mumzies

It's just yer way of giving a message

[Dennis]

ummm, hi

I'm not dead, I just had a hell of a long weekend

OOMMGG hi pyxxxyy you're so great hi welcome back

[Porscha]

The gimmicks are making it impossible for me to formulate a town core because I can not separate the gimmicks and my feelings about them cause I'm dumb stupid.

I kinda feel the same way.

I'm wondering if a few people are cursed or something with Love and Happiness or something like that. Or maybe not cursed, blessed would be more like it.

I had no real feel for Lily, the only game I played with her was GOC, and I don't know that we ever interacted.

Zomg I know they're like super adorable and lovely but SVS is probably one of those scw's (super cute woofs). Woof woof SVS.

explain svs

'

Yeah, do that.

Although the more I read the more I think there are some kind of shenanigans going on. Like the ghost of rondo is haunting Mac and Kate.

Lol zomg it's so funny how those baddies tickled lily to frame me teehee you silly wolfies are so tricksy and cute.

how would that have framed you, I dont recall her saying anything about you in the first place (could very easily double check this, will not be doing that)

I searched her posts for "mac" and there were only 7. Three quoted posts with his name in them, one was a joke.

Otherwise, in one she voted for him, in another she just wasn't feeling it, and this was the third:

[VOTE: mac] aubergine

explain yourself

just not feeling it with mac rn lol

are you able to explain why you think mac hero votes nutella just to double down on the vote after nutella actually posts

how is that a hero vote? fmpov mac is blatantly pushing a villager and getting 0 pushback while others pile on. I don't get the nutella vote at all and it just looks like Mac is openwolfing

Personally, I think if someone wanted to kill Mac on day one, they would have just killed Mac, rather than killed someone who voted him but not over aggressively, to then frame that person for killing Mac, lol. It wasn't like either of them was universally being townread or anything.

Yeah that's a good point. I dont really think lily was killed cuz of whatever she said about mac (I didnt even remember what she had said to me about him lol) but maybe its towny for mac to over focus on himself about it? Then again, he could have felt pressured by what lily said and nkd her and then come into today claiming it was to frame him. But I dont really think mac would feel pressure from lily there to even make that play if hes wolfing tbh

[Porscha]

[VOTE: Seanzie ] aubergine

good work team

You know, I don't think you've explained any suspicion on me and yet you keep doing IMO rather wolfy "sean is wolf" posts.

From your ISO, the best idea I can get as to why you are voting me here is that you had a dream I submitted a NK in the thread.

[VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

Thanks for the clear.

Sean: accuses ppl of wolfing and votes them without giving reason

Also sean: omg you didnt even explain ur vote on me. Must be wolf

[Porscha]

I feel like we should be listening to nutella. Does anyone else feel that way?

is... is this... a pocket attempt? lol

it feels so pushy and nutella as of this post has made 1 post? what is there to listen to?

It feels less like a pocket attempt, and instead more like two of the people most deserving of love in the thread hugging each other.

So you sr kate here?

[Porscha]

I feel like we should be listening to nutella. Does anyone else feel that way?

is... is this... a pocket attempt? lol

it feels so pushy and nutella as of this post has made 1 post? what is there to listen to?

She made a lot of posts yesterday and her exasperation at EOD seemed deeply honest.

But perhaps there is a difference between tr'ing nutella and saying we should all listen to her because ?

[Porscha]

[VOTE: Seanzie ] aubergine

good work team

You know, I don't think you've explained any suspicion on me and yet you keep doing IMO rather wolfy "sean is wolf" posts.

From your ISO, the best idea I can get as to why you are voting me here is that you had a dream I submitted a NK in the thread.

[VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

Thanks for the clear.

No. It started as a vague bad vibe that exaggerated into a tunnel, but various threadstate things around my sus of you suggest I am right. If you're not a wolf Mac has to be but idt he is rn. You have done absolutely nothing towny and other people have so I'm just doubling down.

What's the connection between diff check on sean and mac? I get that both have pushed you, but so you believe that at least 1 of them has to be wolf just because of this? Probs not diff check then

[Porscha]

I'm not finished catching up so maybe I'll change my mind later when I'm back but I dont particularly believe mac or sean has to be wolfing just because of their pushes on nutella but if she is right and 1 of them is a wolf, I think I'd say its sean over mac rn just because I agree with svs on the whole nk thing too - it doesnt make a lot of sense for mac (not that he doesnt have other partners, but from his pov) to nk lily who only applied a small amount of pressure but then leave nutella, who applied similar pressure, alive to be like "hurr nutella did this to frame me" as a means of voting her out because it's almost too obvious

And to be clear I'm really not SR'ing sean here, I think he is within his town range (and possible wolf range?) atm, but in a way that with more pressure could break him open or turn him into shiny town diamond sean. Like it's a shallow puddle of town range sean but I dont think its past being fakeable atm. Sean do you think you've done anything that's outside of your wolf range atm?

[MacDougall]

I feel like we should be listening to nutella. Does anyone else feel that way?

is... is this... a pocket attempt? lol

it feels so pushy and nutella as of this post has made 1 post? what is there to listen to?

Yes

No. Iz partners.

omg so true lmao

[pyxxy]

ummm, hi

I'm not dead, I just had a hell of a long weekend

OOMMGG hi pyxxxyy you're so great hi welcome back

........thanks you too?

[Porscha]

Ah but I see votes and nutella has her vote on neon ( :sunlgasses: ) so I'll see that later

[MacDougall]

lmao nutella doesn't believe her reads guise she's so cute but is an evil potato and I caught her off nothing and tunneled her all game let's just kill her or maybe sheep porscha pocket pocket pockets uuuuuuuu

[Dennis]

ummm, hi

I'm not dead, I just had a hell of a long weekend

OOMMGG hi pyxxxyy you're so great hi welcome back

........thanks you too?

(It's a gimmick I have to do this just roll with it) omgmggg thank you I literally just flew to the moon because you talked to me WOHOOOOO

[MacDougall]

@nutella

[nutella]

lmao nutella doesn't believe her reads guise she's so cute but is an evil potato and I caught her off nothing and tunneled her all game let's just kill her or maybe sheep porscha pocket pocket pockets uuuuuuuu

My guy I am literally greenchecked

[pyxxy]

ummm, hi

I'm not dead, I just had a hell of a long weekend

OOMMGG hi pyxxxyy you're so great hi welcome back

........thanks you too?

(It's a gimmick I have to do this just roll with it) omgmggg thank you I literally just flew to the moon because you talked to me WOHOOOOO

......okay

@nutella

jesus

[pyxxy]

oh wait this game is only 16 pages? oh this catchup is easily doable, I got all pessimistic about reading before actually starting