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[Sheep]

Well, did you see Syn going on falcon when he was handed the vote off?

I sure did not

couldn't seanzie/falcon/me just be w/w/w and I saved the one who wasn't basically mechanically outed

wait seanzie was mech outed
why did nobody tell me

actually tho

[Syn]

Well, did you see Syn going on falcon when he was handed the vote off?

I sure did not

couldn't seanzie/falcon/me just be w/w/w and I saved the one who wasn't basically mechanically outed

wait seanzie was mech outed
why did nobody tell me

actually tho

are you fr

[Sheep]

Well, did you see Syn going on falcon when he was handed the vote off?

I sure did not

couldn't seanzie/falcon/me just be w/w/w and I saved the one who wasn't basically mechanically outed

wait seanzie was mech outed
why did nobody tell me

actually tho

are you fr

yes

[Syn]

Well, did you see Syn going on falcon when he was handed the vote off?

I sure did not

couldn't seanzie/falcon/me just be w/w/w and I saved the one who wasn't basically mechanically outed

wait seanzie was mech outed
why did nobody tell me

actually tho

are you fr

yes

this means you outright ignored like 70% of D3's posts

but also I know you're lying

[Syn]

new logical recipe just dropped:

mm
i'll just sheep porscha for now because I have a rather annoying lack of wolfreasd atm

plus

Just so you all know me & Porscha are currently frozen and crying in wolfchat because syn has caught us

=

Regardless of Porscha's read on Falcon and whether I believe it or not (I think I do).

I still want to pressure him into getting into the game more involved like. And that's why I'm voting that over anyone else rn.

I'm also interested in seeing what Jaiden Underwood has to say about this game. Perhaps it can sanity check me on their alignment since idk

Here is the deal I tutuu. If you truly believe tutuu was aware of neons softs, which I think is a good catch on your part, then the wolves would have directly killed neon last night. And if neon was for sure the doctor, there would have only been 1 kill no matter who neon went on. So I'm of the belief that you think the wolves did not know who wolf was and therefore tutuu is not a wolf, unless, and only unless, you are willing to consider rondo was the actual doctor who went on sean and neon was the standard nk. So let me know how you feel about that

Rondo explicitly said he wasn't going on me. You are full of agenda.

I am really starting to think it is either Rondo!Doc ->Porscha!wolf or Neon!Doc -> Porscha!clear as others have said, and yeah... this is really fustrating.

Do you have any read on porscha?

(emphasis mine)

um?

@Sheep What was the purpose of this question? Was it mostly to get Seanzie's view, or are you wavering on your town lock Porscha read?

??
I think if you're like "this person could either be mechanically confirmed town or wolf" it's probably best to like form a read on that person and have that influence it somewhat instead of just trying to solve mech

especially when that player isn't somebody who's been historically super hard to read.

I'd personally much rather lose because I actually thought porscha was town than because I misread who the doctor is and I'd asssume the same for seanzie.

not 100% sure if i made this clear

[Syn]

Regardless of Porscha's read on Falcon and whether I believe it or not (I think I do).

I still want to pressure him into getting into the game more involved like. And that's why I'm voting that over anyone else rn.

I'm also interested in seeing what Jaiden Underwood has to say about this game. Perhaps it can sanity check me on their alignment since idk

Here is the deal I tutuu. If you truly believe tutuu was aware of neons softs, which I think is a good catch on your part, then the wolves would have directly killed neon last night. And if neon was for sure the doctor, there would have only been 1 kill no matter who neon went on. So I'm of the belief that you think the wolves did not know who wolf was and therefore tutuu is not a wolf, unless, and only unless, you are willing to consider rondo was the actual doctor who went on sean and neon was the standard nk. So let me know how you feel about that

Rondo explicitly said he wasn't going on me. You are full of agenda.

I am really starting to think it is either Rondo!Doc ->Porscha!wolf or Neon!Doc -> Porscha!clear as others have said, and yeah... this is really fustrating.

Do you have any read on porscha?

[Syn]

sheep these posts are so gross

[Sheep]

???
I thought you didn't know who doctor was
so
you didn't know who was mech wolf

[robyn]

sheep these posts are so gross

methinks ur right

[Sheep]

sheep these posts are so gross

I have literally no clue what you are accusing me of

[Syn]

nice wagons tbh

like
jaiden's not getting voted today because just subbed in (unless they start openwolving)
falcon's not getting voted today because this isn't the time in-game to hang somebody of that postcount

my wagon best obv

the other 3 I'd say like lucy>syn>seanzie in order of towniness but i don't wolfread any of 'em so that's kinda a problem this might fix unless you guys CFD jaiden underwood and hammer

hello sheep i would like to inform you that this reads list leaves a POE of sheep, cape, and pyxxy

oh no
(tbh idk why you associate "not getting voted today" with me not thinking they're a wolf)

generally speaking it is very cool to chop people you think are wolf

I mean yeah

in thos specific cases it was more of a thread read tbh

but also I feel like there's sometimes a diference between the two in general idk how to describe it

idk how to explain this
and not just because i don't have a lot of wolfreads

but like while votes can go with a wolfread you can still wolread somebody who you're not voting, or vote somebody who you're not wolfreading ig

I mean idk how to explain this to myself so i doubt i'll convey it to ya'll

the above, plus: ignoring the mech talk, asking people about reading porscha independent of mech, trying to tie up wagons at EOD because of "DADV" and "boring," constantly hedging his reads and mostly trying to pressure/chop slots that won't/can't defend themselves

does wolf!sheep flounder like this after waking up into a day where a wolf partner is afk/subbed and seanzie is sunk by lucky mech play?

[Jaiden Underwood]

im quietly reading posts from the past 2 days just trying to unlock that part of my brain that does things like "thinking"
i should probably just start prodding people and see what they do

[Sheep]

like
jaiden's not getting voted today because just subbed in (unless they start openwolving)
falcon's not getting voted today because this isn't the time in-game to hang somebody of that postcount

my wagon best obv

the other 3 I'd say like lucy>syn>seanzie in order of towniness but i don't wolfread any of 'em so that's kinda a problem this might fix unless you guys CFD jaiden underwood and hammer

hello sheep i would like to inform you that this reads list leaves a POE of sheep, cape, and pyxxy

oh no
(tbh idk why you associate "not getting voted today" with me not thinking they're a wolf)

generally speaking it is very cool to chop people you think are wolf

I mean yeah

in thos specific cases it was more of a thread read tbh

but also I feel like there's sometimes a diference between the two in general idk how to describe it

idk how to explain this
and not just because i don't have a lot of wolfreads

but like while votes can go with a wolfread you can still wolread somebody who you're not voting, or vote somebody who you're not wolfreading ig

I mean idk how to explain this to myself so i doubt i'll convey it to ya'll

the above, plus: ignoring the mech talk, asking people about reading porscha independent of mech, trying to tie up wagons at EOD because of "DADV" and "boring," constantly hedging his reads and mostly trying to pressure/chop slots that won't/can't defend themselves

does wolf!sheep flounder like this after waking up into a day where a wolf partner is afk/subbed and seanzie is sunk by lucky mech play?

I did not see any mech talk in thread besides that seanzie post
I was under the assumption that the doctor was still up in the air
That EoD does look bad but also seanzie would just like tell me to bus if he's actually mech outed and I wasn't really confident that seanzie was a wolf.

"constantly heding my reads" I don't really think this is accurate but also wouldn't it be weirder if i were really confident after having not read a lot of the game.

Some specific examples
Bereft - You cannot tell me that I should have made a decisive read on bereft there tbh
Porscha - counterexample tbh
Falcon/pyxxy - There were definitely moments where i was uncertain but also moments where i was certain.
Rask - had barely posted

"trying to pressure/chop slots that won't can't defend themselves" - I mean... sure?
Rondo I was ignoring
Porscha was being really towny
You & lucy were being townier than everyone else
I guess i didn't really push tutuu or cape but like

I don't think this is incriminating in the slightest.

[Sheep]

jaiden's posts all look towny tbh

[Syn]

jaiden's posts all look towny tbh

no they don't

[Syn]

why would you ISO cape and make a bunch of hem-hawing posts about "people misreading cape but idk he's probably town ig" when you're now admitting you simply did not read most of D3?

why were you asking pyxxy and seanzie questions about what was happening if you didn't know what was happening?

[Jaiden Underwood]

jaiden's posts all look towny tbh

yeah i do that

[Syn]

you say that you aren't hedging your reads but in the process of putting together a POE of three, the list you came up with had to include yourself because "idk i just don't wolf read anyone"

when pushed to go somewhere, you say pyxxy (but avoid actually pushing them) or fall back on the trusty falcon push

[Jaiden Underwood]

jaiden's posts all look towny tbh

no they don't

ego hurt, my ability to read you is now destroyed
this is your fault

[Jaiden Underwood]

the moment someone starts hitting the "????" they are either the main character or just scum
and idk sheep aint looking like the main character to me

[Syn]

the moment someone starts hitting the "????" they are either the main character or just scum
and idk sheep aint looking like the main character to me

someone made this read about rask lol (he was town)

[Jaiden Underwood]

i have a feeling my more esoteric reads wont be appreciated here very much

[Syn]

maybe rask was the main character........

[Syn]

i have a feeling my more esoteric reads wont be appreciated here very much

fuck it we ball

[Jaiden Underwood]

the moment someone starts hitting the "????" they are either the main character or just scum
and idk sheep aint looking like the main character to me

someone made this read about rask lol (he was town)

yeah but rask is different (i have never met rask)

[Jaiden Underwood]

maybe rask was the main character........

rask sounds like the main character to me. i think im just correct

[Jaiden Underwood]

hey syn youre not just scum right

[Syn]

hey syn youre not just scum right

probably not

[Jaiden Underwood]

hey syn youre not just scum right

probably not

youre trying too hard. sorry

[Syn]

hey syn youre not just scum right

probably not

youre trying too hard. sorry

thank you chloe very cool

[Jaiden Underwood]

hey syn youre not just scum right

probably not

youre trying too hard. sorry

thank you chloe very cool

now youre not trying hard enough. thats 2 strikes. 2 strikes and youre out man

[Syn]

sheep disappears coincidentally when jaiden appears to distract me from cornering sheep

[Syn]

hey babe new POE list just dropped

sheep -> jaiden -> pyxxy -> cape -> falcon -> lucy

[Jaiden Underwood]

sheep disappears coincidentally when jaiden appears to distract me from cornering sheep

a coordinated attack to delay pressure on sheep just doesn't make logistic sense, it would pair us pretty easily for barely any benefit
especially when said "distracting" started with me putting more attention on sheep

towny post though. this would be a very confident move which i think would have more volume if you were scum

[Cape90]

jaiden's posts all look towny tbh

when jaiden gave all her content day 2, you said it was completely NAI, and then this post was made after Jaiden only made 1 post today

[Jaiden Underwood]

jaiden's posts all look towny tbh

when jaiden gave all her content day 2, you said it was completely NAI, and then this post was made after Jaiden only made 1 post today

interesting. maybe trying to get me on their side? im prolly the easiest to pocket given my lack of gamestate knowledge and sheep was under pressure from syn

[Jaiden Underwood]

cape weve played together before right

[Sheep]

jaiden's posts all look towny tbh

no they don't

yes they do?

[Syn]

sheep disappears coincidentally when jaiden appears to distract me from cornering sheep

a coordinated attack to delay pressure on sheep just doesn't make logistic sense, it would pair us pretty easily for barely any benefit
especially when said "distracting" started with me putting more attention on sheep

towny post though. this would be a very confident move which i think would have more volume if you were scum

this never happened btw

[Sheep]

why would you ISO cape and make a bunch of hem-hawing posts about "people misreading cape but idk he's probably town ig" when you're now admitting you simply did not read most of D3?

why were you asking pyxxy and seanzie questions about what was happening if you didn't know what was happening?

because
I read posts where people were saying cape was town
and I didn't think the reasoning provided was very good


I was asking pyxxy & seanzie questions
about things based on what I had read?
?????

[Sheep]

sheep disappears coincidentally when jaiden appears to distract me from cornering sheep

no i disappeared before that

[Sheep]

the moment someone starts hitting the "????" they are either the main character or just scum
and idk sheep aint looking like the main character to me

I just use them
because people frequently say confusing things.

[Syn]

why would you ISO cape and make a bunch of hem-hawing posts about "people misreading cape but idk he's probably town ig" when you're now admitting you simply did not read most of D3?

why were you asking pyxxy and seanzie questions about what was happening if you didn't know what was happening?

because
I read posts where people were saying cape was town
and I didn't think the reasoning provided was very good


I was asking pyxxy & seanzie questions
about things based on what I had read?
?????

asking questions that you expect to be relevant requires awareness of what is going on

you were asking questions pertinent to the thread state

ergo ipso facto wingardium leviosa, you cannot simultaneously claim ignorance of the bulk of D3 while also claiming you were ISOing someone and putting in work questioning players

[Sheep]

jaiden's posts all look towny tbh

when jaiden gave all her content day 2, you said it was completely NAI, and then this post was made after Jaiden only made 1 post today

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
idk what to tell you

[Syn]

also can't claim ignorance about mech when you directly quote seanzie talking about mech and ask him about his read on porscha

[Sheep]

why would you ISO cape and make a bunch of hem-hawing posts about "people misreading cape but idk he's probably town ig" when you're now admitting you simply did not read most of D3?

why were you asking pyxxy and seanzie questions about what was happening if you didn't know what was happening?

because
I read posts where people were saying cape was town
and I didn't think the reasoning provided was very good


I was asking pyxxy & seanzie questions
about things based on what I had read?
?????

asking questions that you expect to be relevant requires awareness of what is going on

you were asking questions pertinent to the thread state

ergo ipso facto wingardium leviosa, you cannot simultaneously claim ignorance of the bulk of D3 while also claiming you were ISOing someone and putting in work questioning players

Knowing what one person posted d3 =/= knowing what happened d3 especialy with my tendency to ISO low-posters

[Syn]

eod2 postcounts

obligatory "200 postcap" reminder

ah yes

cape

the low poster

[Sheep]

also can't claim ignorance about mech when you directly quote seanzie talking about mech and ask him about his read on porscha

Grrrrr

Here is the mech as I understood it:

Neon & Rondo died
one of them is the weak doctor who targeted mafia

One of them (don't remember whom) would mean porscha is locktown, the other would mean porscha is lockwolf

that's it.
You saying "seanzie is lockwolf" does not come up anywhere. Nowhere did i see either hypothetical meaning seanzie is a wolf NOR that it was deduced that that situation was true.

[Sheep]

eod2 postcounts

obligatory "200 postcap" reminder

ah yes

cape

the low poster

Tendency
also I didn't read the later pages
"Oh then how could you say anything about it?"
Because people were townreading cape based off of thsoe posts, which would both mean that people were more likely to be falsely clearing cape then and not questioning it and continuing to incorrectly clear cape based off of similar posts

[Sheep]

This push feels weird tbh.