Chihiro wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:52 pm
On a side note cause this is annoying, @Neon should have recieved info due to my role as yet to mention it in the thread. I was hoping they eventually mention it, but the likely hood that it hasnt been mentioned makes me think the slots scum.
I won't go into detail about the information, they have to reveal it themselves.
they post capped, they can’t post for the rest of the cycle
they have no mechanical understanding of mafia whatsoever which is a reason why they’re voting me
Lucy gonna be honest the more you say stuff like this the more I want to vote for you
Meh neon hittting post cap and not revealing info providing by my role makes me really certain the slots evil here, couipled with how they treated the 3rd party slot.
Chihiro wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:52 pm
On a side note cause this is annoying, @Neon should have recieved info due to my role as yet to mention it in the thread. I was hoping they eventually mention it, but the likely hood that it hasnt been mentioned makes me think the slots scum.
I won't go into detail about the information, they have to reveal it themselves.
See this is why I’m suspicious of both her and Cr/Mac to a degree post capping so early let’s you go UTR so hard
Chihiro wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:52 pm
On a side note cause this is annoying, @Neon should have recieved info due to my role as yet to mention it in the thread. I was hoping they eventually mention it, but the likely hood that it hasnt been mentioned makes me think the slots scum.
I won't go into detail about the information, they have to reveal it themselves.
they post capped, they can’t post for the rest of the cycle
they have no mechanical understanding of mafia whatsoever which is a reason why they’re voting me
Lucy gonna be honest the more you say stuff like this the more I want to vote for you
can we not vote peopple out cause their being a dick, like taht isnt a reason to vote someone.
Chihiro wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:52 pm
On a side note cause this is annoying, @Neon should have recieved info due to my role as yet to mention it in the thread. I was hoping they eventually mention it, but the likely hood that it hasnt been mentioned makes me think the slots scum.
I won't go into detail about the information, they have to reveal it themselves.
they post capped, they can’t post for the rest of the cycle
they have no mechanical understanding of mafia whatsoever which is a reason why they’re voting me
Lucy gonna be honest the more you say stuff like this the more I want to vote for you
can we not vote peopple out cause their being a dick, like taht isnt a reason to vote someone.
when it’s a third party who can swing anti town it’s less about them being a dick or not and more about them coming off as less Pro town.
Stuff like this plus saying she hates the town players are just pinging me right now.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:52 pm
Why wouldn't people want to vote out a 3p? It's basically a given. Not sure why you're acting surprised.
Cause eliminating a 3rd party that doesn't have the ability to kill only helps mafia win con go forward, its a day wasted on something that isn't flipping mafia.
You're assuming Lucy is telling the truth about their wincon lol.
We've all been burned by 3ps before. It's meta 101 to flip 3p claims. Not doing it frequently results in bad outcomes for town.
I'm not gonna prosecute further but it's not strange in the slightest for people to want to.
Chihiro wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:55 pm
Meh neon hittting post cap and not revealing info providing by my role makes me really certain the slots evil here, couipled with how they treated the 3rd party slot.
[VOTE:
Neon] aubergine
Can you tell me who if anyone has been pushing you?
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:52 pm
Why wouldn't people want to vote out a 3p? It's basically a given. Not sure why you're acting surprised.
Cause eliminating a 3rd party that doesn't have the ability to kill only helps mafia win con go forward, its a day wasted on something that isn't flipping mafia.
You're assuming Lucy is telling the truth about their wincon lol.
We've all been burned by 3ps before. It's meta 101 to flip 3p claims. Not doing it frequently results in bad outcomes for town.
I'm not gonna prosecute further but it's not strange in the slightest for people to want to.
I have too, but
1.im open minded
2. I wanna flip mafia not 3rd party.
Chihiro wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:55 pm
Meh neon hittting post cap and not revealing info providing by my role makes me really certain the slots evil here, couipled with how they treated the 3rd party slot.
[VOTE:
Neon] aubergine
Can you tell me who if anyone has been pushing you?
I havent been pushed d2 at all really,was pushed day 1 a little but that basically died down.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:43 pm
@lucy would you mind giving me a catch up
Hello Doom.
cr claimed vigilante who tried to kill jack but was unsuccessful
i claimed third party (randomly) so people want to vote me, i don’t understand why at all tbh
otherwise just iso me/sig/dennis/hk for the rest of the catch-up
neon and cr’s iso’s are useless
You have sig, Dennis and HK as town?
Why wouldn't people want to vote out a 3p? It's basically a given. Not sure why you're acting surprised.
Why did you out it?
i was bored
confirmed non mafia and my solving is immediately much more trustworthy because i’m not mafia
why townside if you don't need to?
because it fulfills my win con
i can kill wolves and it fulfills my win con and town listens to me and my solving is usually extremely accurate which gives me more control over the game -> easier to solve win con while townsiding
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:43 pm
@lucy would you mind giving me a catch up
Hello Doom.
cr claimed vigilante who tried to kill jack but was unsuccessful
i claimed third party (randomly) so people want to vote me, i don’t understand why at all tbh
otherwise just iso me/sig/dennis/hk for the rest of the catch-up
neon and cr’s iso’s are useless
You have sig, Dennis and HK as town?
Why wouldn't people want to vote out a 3p? It's basically a given. Not sure why you're acting surprised.
Why did you out it?
i was bored
confirmed non mafia and my solving is immediately much more trustworthy because i’m not mafia
why townside if you don't need to?
because it fulfills my win con
i can kill wolves and it fulfills my win con and town listens to me and my solving is usually extremely accurate which gives me more control over the game -> easier to solve win con while townsiding
do u have a prediction for day 2? or is that not how it works.
case them and prove they're mafia. Otherwsie no ones just gonna vote ur prediction off.
i’d rather meme and watch town waste 2 chops on me then i’ll blame town for losing by playing in an extremely anti town way, i will teach them a lesson that they’ll remember instead of anything pro town until i’m not #1 wagon
Chihiro wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:55 pm
Meh neon hittting post cap and not revealing info providing by my role makes me really certain the slots evil here, couipled with how they treated the 3rd party slot.
[VOTE:
Neon] aubergine
Can you tell me who if anyone has been pushing you?
I havent been pushed d2 at all really,was pushed day 1 a little but that basically died down.
Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:49 pm
@hollowkatt what makes dunya an obvious wolf to you? You've been preaching for a dunya kill for a while now.
the lack of any town posting in her ISO bar like two posts. The rest of them are very fluffy very underwhelming and my experience with dunya is that she earnestly cares about solving when she is town. I don't see anything resembling that in her posting. Combine that with basically vanishing today when today was going to be contentious given how EOD went down and I have some large concerns there.
A lot of what she did was throw questions at people and then never follow up on them and generally speaking that's the sign of a wolf that struggles to get into the game and is looking for a way to appear to be participating without having to get down and dirty with reads and making statements about the alignments of other players. There's no single smoking gun that says "dunya is a wolf" but there is a lot of circumstantial evidence that would indicate they are.
If she comes into the thread and posts well, makes some statement type posts, gives reads, and follows up on what she asked about D1 before we get into the EOD run up I'll re-evaluate.
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:47 pm
I'm voting obvs wolf dunya. Lucy hopefully can be resolved in a meaningful way soon but I don't have the ability to do so at the moment and I'm less concerned with voting off the claimed 3p than I am wolfy people.
Yeah well im certain atleast 2 of the lucy voters are scum
case them and prove they're mafia. Otherwsie no ones just gonna vote ur prediction off.
There is no need to prove anything, eliminating the day 1 counterwagon is always +ev to town wincon. If he flips mafia we simply mow down the Seanzie wagon and win. Unless there is something tactically more viable to do this should always be done.
case them and prove they're mafia. Otherwsie no ones just gonna vote ur prediction off.
i’d rather meme and watch town waste 2 chops on me then i’ll blame town for losing by playing in an extremely anti town way, i will teach them a lesson that they’ll remember instead of anything pro town until i’m not #1 wagon
[VOTE:
lucy] aubergine
I said if you weren’t gonna townside I’d vote for you and you aren’t townsiding right now
@MacDougall@RondoDimBuckle (I know you’re both still catching up) @Creature @Chihiro
Chihiro wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:55 pm
Meh neon hittting post cap and not revealing info providing by my role makes me really certain the slots evil here, couipled with how they treated the 3rd party slot.
[VOTE:
Neon] aubergine
Can you tell me who if anyone has been pushing you?
I've called him a wolf a couple of times, mostly due to his responses/reactions during the crich/neon/kate fight, it felt weird like he was trying to butter up all the players involved while also trying to stop the fighting.
case them and prove they're mafia. Otherwsie no ones just gonna vote ur prediction off.
i’d rather meme and watch town waste 2 chops on me then i’ll blame town for losing by playing in an extremely anti town way, i will teach them a lesson that they’ll remember instead of anything pro town until i’m not #1 wagon
[VOTE:
lucy] aubergine
I said if you weren’t gonna townside I’d vote for you and you aren’t townsiding right now
@MacDougall @RondoDimBuckle (I know you’re both still catching up) @Creature
@Chihiro
Thoughts on all this
why the fuck should i townside when i’m being voted and when i won’t die
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:47 pm
I'm voting obvs wolf dunya. Lucy hopefully can be resolved in a meaningful way soon but I don't have the ability to do so at the moment and I'm less concerned with voting off the claimed 3p than I am wolfy people.
Yeah well im certain atleast 2 of the lucy voters are scum
you tell me who yours are and I'll tell you mine.
if i have to pick, its prob neon and the replacement forgot the name lol.
The 3p shenanigans dominating the discourse is making it easier for the mafia to just hide. I understand the inclination to let it go but this will be nothing but a repeat discussion day after day.
Town need to coalesce on this and make a decision now whether to eliminate Lucy or simply take her at her word if we are any chance to find the mafia.
I personally am willing to let her live and leave her alone because I see that many of those pushing her are behind the Seanzie miselim and at a glance I think there is always mafia voting her. I want to let her live simply because I think if we left her alive it would make the game harder for the mafia and we might even be able to bait the mafia into shooting her.
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:47 pm
I'm voting obvs wolf dunya. Lucy hopefully can be resolved in a meaningful way soon but I don't have the ability to do so at the moment and I'm less concerned with voting off the claimed 3p than I am wolfy people.
Yeah well im certain atleast 2 of the lucy voters are scum
you tell me who yours are and I'll tell you mine.
if i have to pick, its prob neon and the replacement forgot the name lol.
I go with Rondo and Wigly as wolves on the lucy wagon. I get why you think Neon and I'm not discounting that but I think the way she managed crich while also engaging with other people felt pretty good
case them and prove they're mafia. Otherwsie no ones just gonna vote ur prediction off.
i’d rather meme and watch town waste 2 chops on me then i’ll blame town for losing by playing in an extremely anti town way, i will teach them a lesson that they’ll remember instead of anything pro town until i’m not #1 wagon
[VOTE:
lucy] aubergine
I said if you weren’t gonna townside I’d vote for you and you aren’t townsiding right now
@MacDougall @RondoDimBuckle (I know you’re both still catching up) @Creature
@Chihiro
Thoughts on all this
U know something i've been debating for a while, what if lucy does just have a jester win con. Cause honestly some of her posts don't really line up with what they actually want done. If lucy really wanted us to kill a target for them, they are capable of making it happen but they aren't doing that.
Chihiro wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:55 pm
Meh neon hittting post cap and not revealing info providing by my role makes me really certain the slots evil here, couipled with how they treated the 3rd party slot.
[VOTE:
Neon] aubergine
Can you tell me who if anyone has been pushing you?
I've called him a wolf a couple of times, mostly due to his responses/reactions during the crich/neon/kate fight, it felt weird like he was trying to butter up all the players involved while also trying to stop the fighting.
sig wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:29 pm
Tinfoil theory?
Dennis, Kate, CR, with then 1-2 more mafia members
I think dennis is super townie why do you think he is a wolf?
Paranoia mostly, I’ve got him as a town lean outside of tin foil world, but like I said before he just hasn’t clicked for me yet.
Realistically mafia is probably among
Roxy/rondo
Hollow
Falcon
Wilgy
CR
Kate
Omega
Jack
I don’t think outside of tin foil it’s Kate
Omega, Wilgy, falcon, and you are all unlikely
So that leaves
Roxy
CR
Jack
I also keep forgetting that JD exists so I’ll add him to the POE.
I just feel like I’m missing a really obvious piece to the puzzle and everything would click into place if we can find that piece
May I inquire why you keep going back and forth on me?
You haven’t done enough to prove your town, but also your tone reads town. You also fall into that camp of players that I just can’t read that well in general.
There’s also the matter of trying to find enough people to make a team and I’m struggling their so your status as more null keeps you bouncing
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:16 pm
you forget, my position is that you waste 2 lynches on me or i townside
the former option is strictly losing for town and you’re free to try it, i won’t stop town from losing if they wanna kill me
Except you aren’t town siding and the fact that at the time like 2 votes was enough to make you say you won’t post or help town means you’re attempting to hold the town hostage
Chihiro wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:52 pm
On a side note cause this is annoying, @Neon should have recieved info due to my role as yet to mention it in the thread. I was hoping they eventually mention it, but the likely hood that it hasnt been mentioned makes me think the slots scum.
I won't go into detail about the information, they have to reveal it themselves.
they post capped, they can’t post for the rest of the cycle
they have no mechanical understanding of mafia whatsoever which is a reason why they’re voting me
Neon knows how to play, why do you always have to go there? Geez. It's not fun or funny.
Andrew wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2013 6:47 pm
I'm voting llama again because I think I heard him say something that looks like proof.
I’ll also follow the collective town on Lucy, but right now I’m back in the voting off camp. If it isn’t a viable vote by EOD I’ll move to someone I think is mafia.
I don’t like that she’s trying to force town to do what she wants and isn’t willing to engage unless people stop voting for her.
Mafia is a collaborative game if you aren’t willing to do that especially as third party are you useful?
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:16 pm
you forget, my position is that you waste 2 lynches on me or i townside
the former option is strictly losing for town and you’re free to try it, i won’t stop town from losing if they wanna kill me
Except you aren’t town siding and the fact that at the time like 2 votes was enough to make you say you won’t post or help town means you’re attempting to hold the town hostage
town voting me is holding the town hostage, i’m responding to that in a pro mafia way
vote me and use 3 lynches to remove me from the game
sig wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:21 pm
I’ll also follow the collective town on Lucy, but right now I’m back in the voting off camp. If it isn’t a viable vote by EOD I’ll move to someone I think is mafia.
I don’t like that she’s trying to force town to do what she wants and isn’t willing to engage unless people stop voting for her.
Mafia is a collaborative game if you aren’t willing to do that especially as third party are you useful?
feel free to vote me, don’t blame me when you lose
Chihiro wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:55 pm
Meh neon hittting post cap and not revealing info providing by my role makes me really certain the slots evil here, couipled with how they treated the 3rd party slot.
[VOTE:
Neon] aubergine
Neon is town.
Andrew wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2013 6:47 pm
I'm voting llama again because I think I heard him say something that looks like proof.
Chihiro wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:52 pm
On a side note cause this is annoying, @Neon should have recieved info due to my role as yet to mention it in the thread. I was hoping they eventually mention it, but the likely hood that it hasnt been mentioned makes me think the slots scum.
I won't go into detail about the information, they have to reveal it themselves.
they post capped, they can’t post for the rest of the cycle
they have no mechanical understanding of mafia whatsoever which is a reason why they’re voting me
Lucy gonna be honest the more you say stuff like this the more I want to vote for you
can we not vote peopple out cause their being a dick, like taht isnt a reason to vote someone.
There are about 100 reasons to vote her other than "being a dick." You sound purposely obtuse here.
Andrew wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2013 6:47 pm
I'm voting llama again because I think I heard him say something that looks like proof.
Chihiro wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:55 pm
Meh neon hittting post cap and not revealing info providing by my role makes me really certain the slots evil here, couipled with how they treated the 3rd party slot.
[VOTE:
Neon] aubergine
Neon is town.
CRichard was town.
I see you had been scumreading him.
I know you probably aren't yet prepared to take my word for it, but as a thought experiment, who would look worse for CRichard being town?
