notorious hedgehog 14 player mafia game wow! game thread [game over mafia won]

[Seanzie]

What's going on? I've not been paying attention, and I'll sheep the most reasonable gamestate explanation provided.




Cheers

Fixed.



Fuckin mobile

Rondo/Neon contains at least 3 wolves.

Rask is clear.

Pyxxy probably also clear.

[Seanzie]

Seanzie needs a second assessment as the wagon being on Bereft instead of Lucy I think was mostly their doing.

Yeah I wasn't sure about Seanzie on the wagon, and ofc pyxxy voted that wagon too but that was also a LATE vote

I think Pyxxy is probably clear from EoD wagonomics. The Pyxxy flash wagon was likely a save attempt to move away from Neon.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

What's going on? I've not been paying attention, and I'll sheep the most reasonable gamestate explanation provided.




Cheers

Fixed.



Fuckin mobile

Rondo/Neon contains at least 3 wolves.

Rask is clear.

Pyxxy probably also clear.

Uh...

[Seanzie]

What's going on? I've not been paying attention, and I'll sheep through most reasonable gamestate explanation provided.




Cheers

Syn and Lucy are likely dif check still.

This is mostly due to alot of unresolved tension around Lucy's slot.

I'd sort between those two and go from there.

Syn/Lucy likely t/t. Bad post.

[Seanzie]

@DrWilgy what are your reads

They has not changed much

Cape T
Rondo T
Falcon T
Porscha T
Tutuu Tfn
Neon Tfn

Pyxxy is off and it feels Wolfy.

We need to solve in you/Syn and we should have yesterday.

We go from there.

If we are doing proper mafia play we kill a counterwagon and neons counterwagon gives us the most info. Pyxxy I personally think is town and Neon has been suspicious so if you want to avoid my fpos on lucy Neon is my only other option

I still don't think Neon is correct, but yeah [VOTE: Lucy] aubergine would be a good place to start today.

No.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Seanzie needs a second assessment as the wagon being on Bereft instead of Lucy I think was mostly their doing.

Yeah I wasn't sure about Seanzie on the wagon, and ofc pyxxy voted that wagon too but that was also a LATE vote

I think Pyxxy is probably clear from EoD wagonomics. The Pyxxy flash wagon was likely a save attempt to move away from Neon.

Incorrect.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Like... preflipping me like this is town indicative I'm so glad I get to be your tunnel but also preflipping me is a very shit way to clear Pyxxy especially since I'm fucking obv town

[Seanzie]

in terms of breaking up my reads

Porscha
Sheep
Rondo

tutuu
lucy
DrWigly

Neon
pyxxy
Seanzie

falcon45ca

Syn

Probably something like this

Assuming this is town->scum, I think your bottom 4 are all town, so please rethink.

[Seanzie]

i am somewhat struggling to see pyxxy's come back as towny... kinda the notes thing is towny?

Why do I, pyxxy, as a wolf, want to come back to this EOD? Who tagged me in the wolf chat to come back, and what did they want me to do?

Neutral question. Just want you to think through this.

not really sure why this question was asked

also the notes thing was referring to

I feel drawn to syn le petit and bereft

Drawn in what way?

lack of experience with them + lack of noting towny vibes during my reads

I'm experimenting with taking notes while playing mafia and tldr they're barely in my notes so far

feels like that might mean something. specifically mean something scummy. gtg soon tho

"i am somewhat struggling to see pyxxy's come back as towny"
I interpreted this as calling my return to the thread scummy. That's why I asked why you thought my return was scummy.

Did I interpret this wrong?

i misinterpreted my own post

That's uhh... something.

[Seanzie]

So Seanzie, going to listen to me now?

Listen? Yes.

I don't remember making this post. Probably for the best.

[Seanzie]

So Seanzie, going to listen to me now?

Listen? Yes.

But he ain't gonna give you his heckin beans

[Sheep]

rask dying feels weird tbh.
Not sure what it menas

Level 0 off the top of my head tutuu wolf

allow me to introduce you to 'doctor dodging'

If we speculate beyond that we'd cause too much chaos at this stage in the game I think. PKA is fine and dandy, but hard to do without a solid foundation I think.

sure why not

[Sheep]

@Sheep are you an aopser?

yes

I'm one of the good ones though (haven't been banned from MU yet)

so bereft has a good read on you? (can u link 2 games where he's found you d1)

and what reads do you have, specifically on me/rondo/syn

oh
hm
wolfgames with schweppes
let's see
ah i found one
where
bereft (Osmium_)
said "Oh wait sheep (ad333) is a player in this game"
and then voted me next post
oh and then he didn't talk about me smh (https://artofproblemsolving.com/communi ... nation_frc) for reference
idt there's any more recnet aops games

gah
and there's only a turbo on MU
idk
just trust me

uh
I think you're town?
I think syn's null
Rondo's probably town but also still ignoring him and hoping he dies.

Wait, is Bareft Schweppes? Well that's... unexpected.

lol

[Seanzie]

but i still thinks correct to go between me/syn today

I impolitely disagree.

[Seanzie]

if we miss d2 then tomorrow it's me/syn cross again and mafia have more influence on the vote

us getting sorted today is optimal, i need to see worlds where syn is scum cause then i can start reading the game

syn scum=rondo town in all worlds, same with me/cape

@Porscha @tutuu

You can already see worlds where syn is scum

You yanking my chain here?

i’m biased as fuck and i know i am and i’m annoyed at that

I just dont quite understand why you're saying some things at all
Like you're just saying shit to say it
"Ah chop syn so I can see worlds where he is wolf" already kinda weird but ok, then
*proceeds to see worlds he is wolf* cool so then why do we have to chop him for you start seeing anything

because i'm fucking stuck and i'm basically forced into this cross between me and syn and i'm kind of forced to scumread him. it's not a fucking organic read, it's contrived as shit. instead here i am basically forced into seeing a world where someone who has done NOTHING in this game except me is scum, it's hard to say that he is with confidence or anything else. ideally after a flip or two i would see if he's been townsiding or wolf siding after that but i don't have the luxury and i'm forced to prematurely evaluate him

an idea

what if lucy and syn are both town, and their playstyles are moon and day, and they dislike each other, and that's influencing themselves to scumread each other, when in reality they just dislike each other's gameplay

(i could be wrong, just an idea)

This.

[DrWilgy]

@DrWilgy

if MY girl and Spright Carrot are both drowning and I can only save one you can catch me at my girl’s funeral detaching 1 from gigantic special summoning Blue TO ADD CARROT TO MY HAND AND THEN SPECIAL SUMMONING CARROT TO THE FIELD

Holy shit lmao

[Seanzie]

I'm too lazy to find an active player list but Porscha is basically lock town never rescind status based on play and I will die for her... still.

@Porscha helps me solve this game

Porscha thinks i'm town and thinks wigly is scum

what's your read on me as of now?

Same as yesterday. I'm extremely paranoid of your beginning to the game.

But I think you deserve space and that you feel like you're being honest and town in general...

I don't like this.

That's okay you kinda aren't great at reading me so

so... I'm right?

[Seanzie]

Like... preflipping me like this is town indicative I'm so glad I get to be your tunnel but also preflipping me is a very shit way to clear Pyxxy especially since I'm fucking obv town

Well then I'll clear Pyxxy post-flipping you. That works for me.

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Neon] aubergine

[DrWilgy]

What's going on? I've not been paying attention, and I'll sheep through most reasonable gamestate explanation provided.




Cheers

Syn and Lucy are likely dif check still.

This is mostly due to alot of unresolved tension around Lucy's slot.

I'd sort between those two and go from there.

Syn/Lucy likely t/t. Bad post.

kk, what's our gamestate if so and who am I wrong about being town?

[Seanzie]

What's going on? I've not been paying attention, and I'll sheep through most reasonable gamestate explanation provided.




Cheers

Syn and Lucy are likely dif check still.

This is mostly due to alot of unresolved tension around Lucy's slot.

I'd sort between those two and go from there.

Syn/Lucy likely t/t. Bad post.

kk, what's our gamestate if so and who am I wrong about being town?

Right now the gamestate looks like a sleepwalk into a bad Lucy vote. I'd prefer Neon or maybe Rondo, but could entertain other options.

You'll have to list your townreads if you want me to tell you you're wrong.

[Seanzie]

Well I'm bored now. See y'all later.

[robyn]

@DrWilgy why are you voting me instead of syn?

why do you suspect me?

[DrWilgy]

What's going on? I've not been paying attention, and I'll sheep through most reasonable gamestate explanation provided.




Cheers

Syn and Lucy are likely dif check still.

This is mostly due to alot of unresolved tension around Lucy's slot.

I'd sort between those two and go from there.

Syn/Lucy likely t/t. Bad post.

kk, what's our gamestate if so and who am I wrong about being town?

Right now the gamestate looks like a sleepwalk into a bad Lucy vote. I'd prefer Neon or maybe Rondo, but could entertain other options.

You'll have to list your townreads if you want me to tell you you're wrong.

Define sleepwalk, because I'm seeing Lucy holding contention at 3 with only 1 ahead of Syn with scattered votes that have been voiced as real by the others? This doesn't feel like a sleepwalk at all and there continues to be tension on how we solve the Lucy/Syn bobobingus.

TRs
Falcon
Cape
Rondo
Porscha

Light town to null is:
Tutuu
Neon

Can see wolbes hiding in
Sheep
Pyxxy
Syn or Lucy but never both

I also don't see Neon/Lucy being a thing. I at least believe the behavior between the two early d1 was not w/w.
I don't think Tutuu/Syn could be a thing as if it was a thing I don't think Tutuu would be as pro Lucy.
I don't think Seanzie/Syn could be a thing as I don't think you'd be so pro Lucy.
Neon/Pyxxy aren't a thing per the votes d1.
Sheep/Neon Lucy/Neon are also not a things per the votes d1.

If it's Neon, Sheep and Lucy are both town which would add alot of W equity to Syn.

If it's Lucy, Syn and Rondo are both town which would add alot of W equity to Tutuu/You/Sheep

If it's Pyxxy, Neon is town which further adds alot of W equity to Lucy/Sheep/You

Where am I wrong in drawing these lines?

[DrWilgy]

@DrWilgy why are you voting me instead of syn?

why do you suspect me?

See above.

I suspect you both evenly I think. I don't see myself as wise enough to determine between you two. I do, however, think that Rondo is T and that swings the equity slightly against your favor... Only slightly though.

Voting you I think it optimal for untying the knot of logic I presented above.

[DrWilgy]

Let's see what our AI overlords have to say:
Prompt:

Chat GPT, please show me the potential teams of three people hiding within this list of players along with likely hoods:
Falcon
Cape
Rondo
Porscha
Tutuu
Neon
Sheep
Pyxxy
Syn
Lucy

Lucy is never on a team with Syn or Neon. Tutuu is never on a team with Syn or Seanzie. Neon is never on a team with Pyxxy or Sheep.

If one of the players on the hidden team is Neon, Syn has a greater chance of being on that team.

If one of the players on the hidden team is Lucy, Tutuu Seanzie and Sheep have a greater chance of being on that team.

If one of the players on the hidden team is Pyxxy, Sheep Lucy and Seanzie have a greater chance of being on that team.

Output:

Based on the given constraints and likelihoods, here are some potential teams of three players that could be hidden within the list:

Falcon, Cape, Rondo
Porscha, Tutuu, Seanzie
Lucy, Sheep, Seanzie
Pyxxy, Sheep, Lucy or Seanzie (depending on whether Pyxxy is included or not)
Neon, Syn, Sheep or Seanzie (depending on whether Neon is included or not)
It's important to note that these are just potential teams and there could be other combinations that meet the given constraints as well.

[DrWilgy]

So while not very helpful, it is interesting that the AI could parse the parallels between Pyxxy/Neon as seen in the constraints.

[robyn]

@DrWilgy why are you voting me instead of syn?

why do you suspect me?

See above.

I suspect you both evenly I think. I don't see myself as wise enough to determine between you two. I do, however, think that Rondo is T and that swings the equity slightly against your favor... Only slightly though.

Voting you I think it optimal for untying the knot of logic I presented above.

i’m sleep deprived as shit so i’ll ask a simple question and state one fact and ask you to vote syn

1) Which ML is significantly worse, mine or syn’s?

2) two of your townreads tr me, rondo sr’s and falcon doesn’t have a read

3) vote syn uwu

let’s assume you miss on me, 2 ML’s left and just dies d3 regardless of alignment then we’re probably at 1 ml until a loss. this is logic i’m considering because most of the thread thinks it’s v/v and i might actually buy that logic to some degree

but i feel if syn is a hit we just win

[robyn]

@DrWilgy why are you voting me instead of syn?

why do you suspect me?

See above.

I suspect you both evenly I think. I don't see myself as wise enough to determine between you two. I do, however, think that Rondo is T and that swings the equity slightly against your favor... Only slightly though.

Voting you I think it optimal for untying the knot of logic I presented above.

i’m sleep deprived as shit so i’ll ask a simple question and state one fact and ask you to vote syn

1) Which ML is significantly worse, mine or syn’s?

2) two of your townreads tr me, rondo sr’s and falcon doesn’t have a read

3) vote syn uwu

let’s assume you miss on me, 2 ML’s left and syn just dies d3 regardless of alignment then we’re probably at 1 ml until a loss. this is logic i’m considering because most of the thread thinks it’s v/v and i might actually buy that logic to some degree

but i feel if syn is a hit we just win

[robyn]

fuck i’m living in a world where syn is town because i can’t convince myself he’s scum

[robyn]

there’s nothing to go off with his slot, i just can’t convince myself he’s scum but i will not die over him

[robyn]

like i’m forcing myself to scumread a pure null slot who i know to be wolfsiding

[robyn]

unvoted syn

[robyn]

god i hate this

[DrWilgy]

@DrWilgy why are you voting me instead of syn?

why do you suspect me?

See above.

I suspect you both evenly I think. I don't see myself as wise enough to determine between you two. I do, however, think that Rondo is T and that swings the equity slightly against your favor... Only slightly though.

Voting you I think it optimal for untying the knot of logic I presented above.

i’m sleep deprived as shit so i’ll ask a simple question and state one fact and ask you to vote syn

1) Which ML is significantly worse, mine or syn’s?

2) two of your townreads tr me, rondo sr’s and falcon doesn’t have a read

3) vote syn uwu

let’s assume you miss on me, 2 ML’s left and just dies d3 regardless of alignment then we’re probably at 1 ml until a loss. this is logic i’m considering because most of the thread thinks it’s v/v and i might actually buy that logic to some degree

but i feel if syn is a hit we just win

1.) Syn would be the significantly worse ML I think. Syn draws tension with Rondo and Tutuu with you out of the equation. You draw tension with Rondo, Neon, Seanzie, and Tutuu with syn out of the equation.

2.) true

3.) okie dokei [VOTE: Syn] aubergine

[Seanzie]

What's going on? I've not been paying attention, and I'll sheep through most reasonable gamestate explanation provided.




Cheers

Syn and Lucy are likely dif check still.

This is mostly due to alot of unresolved tension around Lucy's slot.

I'd sort between those two and go from there.

Syn/Lucy likely t/t. Bad post.

kk, what's our gamestate if so and who am I wrong about being town?

Right now the gamestate looks like a sleepwalk into a bad Lucy vote. I'd prefer Neon or maybe Rondo, but could entertain other options.

You'll have to list your townreads if you want me to tell you you're wrong.

Define sleepwalk, because I'm seeing Lucy holding contention at 3 with only 1 ahead of Syn with scattered votes that have been voiced as real by the others? This doesn't feel like a sleepwalk at all and there continues to be tension on how we solve the Lucy/Syn bobobingus.

TRs
Falcon
Cape
Rondo
Porscha

Light town to null is:
Tutuu
Neon

Can see wolbes hiding in
Sheep
Pyxxy
Syn or Lucy but never both

I also don't see Neon/Lucy being a thing. I at least believe the behavior between the two early d1 was not w/w.
I don't think Tutuu/Syn could be a thing as if it was a thing I don't think Tutuu would be as pro Lucy.
I don't think Seanzie/Syn could be a thing as I don't think you'd be so pro Lucy.
Neon/Pyxxy aren't a thing per the votes d1.
Sheep/Neon Lucy/Neon are also not a things per the votes d1.

If it's Neon, Sheep and Lucy are both town which would add alot of W equity to Syn.

If it's Lucy, Syn and Rondo are both town which would add alot of W equity to Tutuu/You/Sheep

If it's Pyxxy, Neon is town which further adds alot of W equity to Lucy/Sheep/You

Where am I wrong in drawing these lines?

So you're woofin', right?

[robyn]

@DrWilgy why are you voting me instead of syn?

why do you suspect me?

See above.

I suspect you both evenly I think. I don't see myself as wise enough to determine between you two. I do, however, think that Rondo is T and that swings the equity slightly against your favor... Only slightly though.

Voting you I think it optimal for untying the knot of logic I presented above.

i’m sleep deprived as shit so i’ll ask a simple question and state one fact and ask you to vote syn

1) Which ML is significantly worse, mine or syn’s?

2) two of your townreads tr me, rondo sr’s and falcon doesn’t have a read

3) vote syn uwu

let’s assume you miss on me, 2 ML’s left and just dies d3 regardless of alignment then we’re probably at 1 ml until a loss. this is logic i’m considering because most of the thread thinks it’s v/v and i might actually buy that logic to some degree

but i feel if syn is a hit we just win

1.) Syn would be the significantly worse ML I think. Syn draws tension with Rondo and Tutuu with you out of the equation. You draw tension with Rondo, Neon, Seanzie, and Tutuu with syn out of the equation.

2.) true

3.) okie dokei [VOTE: Syn] aubergine

lmao i didn’t expect to convince you, anything else i would say i cannot accurately articulate at the moment

thank u for ur thoughts overall though

but why do u suspect sheep/pyxxy

[DrWilgy]

What's going on? I've not been paying attention, and I'll sheep through most reasonable gamestate explanation provided.




Cheers

Syn and Lucy are likely dif check still.

This is mostly due to alot of unresolved tension around Lucy's slot.

I'd sort between those two and go from there.

Syn/Lucy likely t/t. Bad post.

kk, what's our gamestate if so and who am I wrong about being town?

Right now the gamestate looks like a sleepwalk into a bad Lucy vote. I'd prefer Neon or maybe Rondo, but could entertain other options.

You'll have to list your townreads if you want me to tell you you're wrong.

Define sleepwalk, because I'm seeing Lucy holding contention at 3 with only 1 ahead of Syn with scattered votes that have been voiced as real by the others? This doesn't feel like a sleepwalk at all and there continues to be tension on how we solve the Lucy/Syn bobobingus.

TRs
Falcon
Cape
Rondo
Porscha

Light town to null is:
Tutuu
Neon

Can see wolbes hiding in
Sheep
Pyxxy
Syn or Lucy but never both

I also don't see Neon/Lucy being a thing. I at least believe the behavior between the two early d1 was not w/w.
I don't think Tutuu/Syn could be a thing as if it was a thing I don't think Tutuu would be as pro Lucy.
I don't think Seanzie/Syn could be a thing as I don't think you'd be so pro Lucy.
Neon/Pyxxy aren't a thing per the votes d1.
Sheep/Neon Lucy/Neon are also not a things per the votes d1.

If it's Neon, Sheep and Lucy are both town which would add alot of W equity to Syn.

If it's Lucy, Syn and Rondo are both town which would add alot of W equity to Tutuu/You/Sheep

If it's Pyxxy, Neon is town which further adds alot of W equity to Lucy/Sheep/You

Where am I wrong in drawing these lines?

So you're woofin', right?

Provide a chain of thoughts based upon the associative thoughts

"So you're woofin', right?"

Alright Seanzie. You could at least try to interface with my thoughts here.

[DrWilgy]

@DrWilgy why are you voting me instead of syn?

why do you suspect me?

See above.

I suspect you both evenly I think. I don't see myself as wise enough to determine between you two. I do, however, think that Rondo is T and that swings the equity slightly against your favor... Only slightly though.

Voting you I think it optimal for untying the knot of logic I presented above.

i’m sleep deprived as shit so i’ll ask a simple question and state one fact and ask you to vote syn

1) Which ML is significantly worse, mine or syn’s?

2) two of your townreads tr me, rondo sr’s and falcon doesn’t have a read

3) vote syn uwu

let’s assume you miss on me, 2 ML’s left and just dies d3 regardless of alignment then we’re probably at 1 ml until a loss. this is logic i’m considering because most of the thread thinks it’s v/v and i might actually buy that logic to some degree

but i feel if syn is a hit we just win

1.) Syn would be the significantly worse ML I think. Syn draws tension with Rondo and Tutuu with you out of the equation. You draw tension with Rondo, Neon, Seanzie, and Tutuu with syn out of the equation.

2.) true

3.) okie dokei [VOTE: Syn] aubergine

lmao i didn’t expect to convince you, anything else i would say i cannot accurately articulate at the moment

thank u for ur thoughts overall though

but why do u suspect sheep/pyxxy

I think Sheep's reactions to Rondo's case on You/Me/Tutuu was very VERY mid. Both in review and disapproval of it.

Felt like a wolf that didn't like it but didn't know what to do about it.

[Seanzie]

Syn and Lucy are likely dif check still.

This is mostly due to alot of unresolved tension around Lucy's slot.

I'd sort between those two and go from there.

Syn/Lucy likely t/t. Bad post.

kk, what's our gamestate if so and who am I wrong about being town?

Right now the gamestate looks like a sleepwalk into a bad Lucy vote. I'd prefer Neon or maybe Rondo, but could entertain other options.

You'll have to list your townreads if you want me to tell you you're wrong.

Define sleepwalk, because I'm seeing Lucy holding contention at 3 with only 1 ahead of Syn with scattered votes that have been voiced as real by the others? This doesn't feel like a sleepwalk at all and there continues to be tension on how we solve the Lucy/Syn bobobingus.

TRs
Falcon
Cape
Rondo
Porscha

Light town to null is:
Tutuu
Neon

Can see wolbes hiding in
Sheep
Pyxxy
Syn or Lucy but never both

I also don't see Neon/Lucy being a thing. I at least believe the behavior between the two early d1 was not w/w.
I don't think Tutuu/Syn could be a thing as if it was a thing I don't think Tutuu would be as pro Lucy.
I don't think Seanzie/Syn could be a thing as I don't think you'd be so pro Lucy.
Neon/Pyxxy aren't a thing per the votes d1.
Sheep/Neon Lucy/Neon are also not a things per the votes d1.

If it's Neon, Sheep and Lucy are both town which would add alot of W equity to Syn.

If it's Lucy, Syn and Rondo are both town which would add alot of W equity to Tutuu/You/Sheep

If it's Pyxxy, Neon is town which further adds alot of W equity to Lucy/Sheep/You

Where am I wrong in drawing these lines?

So you're woofin', right?

Provide a chain of thoughts based upon the associative thoughts

"So you're woofin', right?"

Alright Seanzie. You could at least try to interface with my thoughts here.

I've found that I lose to wolf!Wilgy often because I find town!Wilgy is often obscure and hard to read, and then Wolf!Wilgy gives me clear thoughts, which I accidentally townread because it feels refreshing to understand your stances better than I usually do.

This is wolf!Wilgy.

[robyn]

@DrWilgy why are you voting me instead of syn?

why do you suspect me?

See above.

I suspect you both evenly I think. I don't see myself as wise enough to determine between you two. I do, however, think that Rondo is T and that swings the equity slightly against your favor... Only slightly though.

Voting you I think it optimal for untying the knot of logic I presented above.

i’m sleep deprived as shit so i’ll ask a simple question and state one fact and ask you to vote syn

1) Which ML is significantly worse, mine or syn’s?

2) two of your townreads tr me, rondo sr’s and falcon doesn’t have a read

3) vote syn uwu

let’s assume you miss on me, 2 ML’s left and just dies d3 regardless of alignment then we’re probably at 1 ml until a loss. this is logic i’m considering because most of the thread thinks it’s v/v and i might actually buy that logic to some degree

but i feel if syn is a hit we just win

1.) Syn would be the significantly worse ML I think. Syn draws tension with Rondo and Tutuu with you out of the equation. You draw tension with Rondo, Neon, Seanzie, and Tutuu with syn out of the equation.

2.) true

3.) okie dokei [VOTE: Syn] aubergine

lmao i didn’t expect to convince you, anything else i would say i cannot accurately articulate at the moment

thank u for ur thoughts overall though

but why do u suspect sheep/pyxxy

I think Sheep's reactions to Rondo's case on You/Me/Tutuu was very VERY mid. Both in review and disapproval of it.

Felt like a wolf that didn't like it but didn't know what to do about it.

sheep is aopser

schweppes/bereft is too

in a recent game town schweppes found town sheep’s within 8 votes and called him town here

does him being town change any of your reads?

[DrWilgy]

Pyxxy has felt off.

The two posts where I noticed this were:

@lucy @DrWilgy @Sheep @Neon @Bereft @Cape90 @Le petit poussin @pyxxy @Syn @RondoDimBuckle @Seanzie @falcon45ca @Porscha

Could you try making reads on these 5 players?

lucy
wilgy
cape
neon
tutuu

lucy: I played against scum lucy in Holes mafia, lucy has no wim in that game tho, and I didn't get the impression that scum lucy is normally without wim. however, I'm liking these lucy vibes. tr

wilgy: I cannot read wilgy (atm?) and would rather abstain from commenting on wilgy. tbh I'm gonna unvote wilgy so that's clear since my wilgy vote was a joke anyway

cape: I think I've watched cape get D1'd as town twice now, which would be really funny if it weren't so sad. seems like the same cape that got pushed over those times. tr

neon: I hate the "I'm booooooooooooored" posts. I also hate when Sabi makes them. equally opportunity hating from me. but they're NAI _atm_ for Neon imo. otoh scum neon was with scum lucy in Holes mafia and I got to see that too...so, neon neutral, leaning town

tutuu: self-indulgent to include yourself in this question. neutral, but hard read you're the rolestopper in case I'm right and can claim town credit later

So effectively town, null, town, null slight town and null?

I'm not bashing it, but it is somewhat jarring to have a read list like this out of you so early Pyxxy.

i was going to vote with my queen lucy but i really like pyxxy he's really fun and he likes me a lot too it would break my heart to vote him for now so ill vote with cape

(i just clicked on the poll to vote for whoever he's voting and i literally forgot who it is as im writing this but it doesnt matter)

hm? when have I made an impression on you?

are u saying that u perceived my post as me townreading u?

no?

"but i really like pyxxy he's really fun and he likes me a lot too"

why do you really like me? what makes me the twinkle in your eye? I made like 5 posts or smth at that point, like am I forgetting secretplayerlist interactions or smth?

Also if we think that what I did was wolfy, I might extend an olive branch to these series of posts that seem to ramble on about tutuu calling pyxxy enjoyable to play with when pyxxy acts like tutuu is solely talking just about this game and tries to make a read off tutuu off this interaction when tutuu was talking in general.

It's not scummy but im just saying

....what??

I'm doing the exact opposite, I'm asking about tutuu's opinion of me since it seems to be founded on things outside this game!!!!!!

cape town wtf

Why did this elicit a tr?

And in addition, thinking of the RVS step votes. Pyxxy, Falcon, and Neon were all on me. If there's 1 in those three it's likely Pyxxy.

[robyn]

i have no read on him myself tbh, i’m just trusting aopser meta and the fact that sheep isn’t a good wolf from the game i looked at in mu

[robyn]

Pyxxy has felt off.

The two posts where I noticed this were:

@lucy @DrWilgy @Sheep @Neon @Bereft @Cape90 @Le petit poussin @pyxxy @Syn @RondoDimBuckle @Seanzie @falcon45ca @Porscha

Could you try making reads on these 5 players?

lucy
wilgy
cape
neon
tutuu

lucy: I played against scum lucy in Holes mafia, lucy has no wim in that game tho, and I didn't get the impression that scum lucy is normally without wim. however, I'm liking these lucy vibes. tr

wilgy: I cannot read wilgy (atm?) and would rather abstain from commenting on wilgy. tbh I'm gonna unvote wilgy so that's clear since my wilgy vote was a joke anyway

cape: I think I've watched cape get D1'd as town twice now, which would be really funny if it weren't so sad. seems like the same cape that got pushed over those times. tr

neon: I hate the "I'm booooooooooooored" posts. I also hate when Sabi makes them. equally opportunity hating from me. but they're NAI _atm_ for Neon imo. otoh scum neon was with scum lucy in Holes mafia and I got to see that too...so, neon neutral, leaning town

tutuu: self-indulgent to include yourself in this question. neutral, but hard read you're the rolestopper in case I'm right and can claim town credit later

So effectively town, null, town, null slight town and null?

I'm not bashing it, but it is somewhat jarring to have a read list like this out of you so early Pyxxy.

hm? when have I made an impression on you?

are u saying that u perceived my post as me townreading u?

no?

"but i really like pyxxy he's really fun and he likes me a lot too"

why do you really like me? what makes me the twinkle in your eye? I made like 5 posts or smth at that point, like am I forgetting secretplayerlist interactions or smth?

Also if we think that what I did was wolfy, I might extend an olive branch to these series of posts that seem to ramble on about tutuu calling pyxxy enjoyable to play with when pyxxy acts like tutuu is solely talking just about this game and tries to make a read off tutuu off this interaction when tutuu was talking in general.

It's not scummy but im just saying

....what??

I'm doing the exact opposite, I'm asking about tutuu's opinion of me since it seems to be founded on things outside this game!!!!!!

cape town wtf

Why did this elicit a tr?

And in addition, thinking of the RVS step votes. Pyxxy, Falcon, and Neon were all on me. If there's 1 in those three it's likely Pyxxy.

i will iso him after i sleep

[robyn]

i’m actually incapable of thinking to a reasonable degree

[DrWilgy]

Syn/Lucy likely t/t. Bad post.

kk, what's our gamestate if so and who am I wrong about being town?

Right now the gamestate looks like a sleepwalk into a bad Lucy vote. I'd prefer Neon or maybe Rondo, but could entertain other options.

You'll have to list your townreads if you want me to tell you you're wrong.

Define sleepwalk, because I'm seeing Lucy holding contention at 3 with only 1 ahead of Syn with scattered votes that have been voiced as real by the others? This doesn't feel like a sleepwalk at all and there continues to be tension on how we solve the Lucy/Syn bobobingus.

TRs
Falcon
Cape
Rondo
Porscha

Light town to null is:
Tutuu
Neon

Can see wolbes hiding in
Sheep
Pyxxy
Syn or Lucy but never both

I also don't see Neon/Lucy being a thing. I at least believe the behavior between the two early d1 was not w/w.
I don't think Tutuu/Syn could be a thing as if it was a thing I don't think Tutuu would be as pro Lucy.
I don't think Seanzie/Syn could be a thing as I don't think you'd be so pro Lucy.
Neon/Pyxxy aren't a thing per the votes d1.
Sheep/Neon Lucy/Neon are also not a things per the votes d1.

If it's Neon, Sheep and Lucy are both town which would add alot of W equity to Syn.

If it's Lucy, Syn and Rondo are both town which would add alot of W equity to Tutuu/You/Sheep

If it's Pyxxy, Neon is town which further adds alot of W equity to Lucy/Sheep/You

Where am I wrong in drawing these lines?

So you're woofin', right?

Provide a chain of thoughts based upon the associative thoughts

"So you're woofin', right?"

Alright Seanzie. You could at least try to interface with my thoughts here.

I've found that I lose to wolf!Wilgy often because I find town!Wilgy is often obscure and hard to read, and then Wolf!Wilgy gives me clear thoughts, which I accidentally townread because it feels refreshing to understand your stances better than I usually do.

This is wolf!Wilgy.

how the unholy hell is the spaghetti logic above clear thoughts? I don't even understand them.

I have them but can't parse them. This is what normally happens, but I find a string to at least follow half the time. This time I see the threads and can't pick one out of the group.

[robyn]

@Seanzie why do u tr me

[DrWilgy]

@DrWilgy why are you voting me instead of syn?

why do you suspect me?

See above.

I suspect you both evenly I think. I don't see myself as wise enough to determine between you two. I do, however, think that Rondo is T and that swings the equity slightly against your favor... Only slightly though.

Voting you I think it optimal for untying the knot of logic I presented above.

i’m sleep deprived as shit so i’ll ask a simple question and state one fact and ask you to vote syn

1) Which ML is significantly worse, mine or syn’s?

2) two of your townreads tr me, rondo sr’s and falcon doesn’t have a read

3) vote syn uwu

let’s assume you miss on me, 2 ML’s left and just dies d3 regardless of alignment then we’re probably at 1 ml until a loss. this is logic i’m considering because most of the thread thinks it’s v/v and i might actually buy that logic to some degree

but i feel if syn is a hit we just win

1.) Syn would be the significantly worse ML I think. Syn draws tension with Rondo and Tutuu with you out of the equation. You draw tension with Rondo, Neon, Seanzie, and Tutuu with syn out of the equation.

2.) true

3.) okie dokei [VOTE: Syn] aubergine

lmao i didn’t expect to convince you, anything else i would say i cannot accurately articulate at the moment

thank u for ur thoughts overall though

but why do u suspect sheep/pyxxy

I think Sheep's reactions to Rondo's case on You/Me/Tutuu was very VERY mid. Both in review and disapproval of it.

Felt like a wolf that didn't like it but didn't know what to do about it.

sheep is aopser

schweppes/bereft is too

in a recent game town schweppes found town sheep’s within 8 votes and called him town here

does him being town change any of your reads?

Define Aopser.

Schweppes and Bereft are both users under the same?

So you are implying that Bereft found Sheep towny and that we should trust that read?

[Seanzie]

kk, what's our gamestate if so and who am I wrong about being town?

Right now the gamestate looks like a sleepwalk into a bad Lucy vote. I'd prefer Neon or maybe Rondo, but could entertain other options.

You'll have to list your townreads if you want me to tell you you're wrong.

Define sleepwalk, because I'm seeing Lucy holding contention at 3 with only 1 ahead of Syn with scattered votes that have been voiced as real by the others? This doesn't feel like a sleepwalk at all and there continues to be tension on how we solve the Lucy/Syn bobobingus.

TRs
Falcon
Cape
Rondo
Porscha

Light town to null is:
Tutuu
Neon

Can see wolbes hiding in
Sheep
Pyxxy
Syn or Lucy but never both

I also don't see Neon/Lucy being a thing. I at least believe the behavior between the two early d1 was not w/w.
I don't think Tutuu/Syn could be a thing as if it was a thing I don't think Tutuu would be as pro Lucy.
I don't think Seanzie/Syn could be a thing as I don't think you'd be so pro Lucy.
Neon/Pyxxy aren't a thing per the votes d1.
Sheep/Neon Lucy/Neon are also not a things per the votes d1.

If it's Neon, Sheep and Lucy are both town which would add alot of W equity to Syn.

If it's Lucy, Syn and Rondo are both town which would add alot of W equity to Tutuu/You/Sheep

If it's Pyxxy, Neon is town which further adds alot of W equity to Lucy/Sheep/You

Where am I wrong in drawing these lines?

So you're woofin', right?

Provide a chain of thoughts based upon the associative thoughts

"So you're woofin', right?"

Alright Seanzie. You could at least try to interface with my thoughts here.

I've found that I lose to wolf!Wilgy often because I find town!Wilgy is often obscure and hard to read, and then Wolf!Wilgy gives me clear thoughts, which I accidentally townread because it feels refreshing to understand your stances better than I usually do.

This is wolf!Wilgy.

how the unholy hell is the spaghetti logic above clear thoughts? I don't even understand them.

I have them but can't parse them. This is what normally happens, but I find a string to at least follow half the time. This time I see the threads and can't pick one out of the group.

Soz about your rand, dude.

[robyn]

found him in 8 posts from the mu game i looked at that sheep linked in the thread (i was playing that game funnily enough)