Scooby Doo: Monster Collective (GAME OVER- MAFIA WIN)

[falcon45ca]

- Airfield
- Bank
- County Museum
- Funland
- Oceanland
- Theater
- Tibetan Temple
- Tropical Village
- University Archeological Wing

Well i am already voting Airfield

No interest in Oceanland?

No way jose, haven' you seen Blackfish?

They cleaned it up and turned it around! Don't you believe in a comeback story?

Until they make an award winning documentary that changes my mind, they're dead to me.

[sig]

Nah you kinda pingponged,

Why did their answer satisfy you?

Since from the way I see it the fact D0 with little pressure they’re already threatening to scum side 100% means they need to go and I can’t see why you’d want to leave them alive.

Well you have my answer now.

I wanted to understand how the account worked, and like i thought its attached to another player.

I mean it's n0? If people have fuctional kill power that can go off N0 it would make sense to do what you could to avoid it. Also, yall are acted as if you didn';t pressure the slot from n0 start.

I don’t get this logic at all. Yes we pressured the slot but like it’s mafia? That’s what you do. And it isn’t like the slot helped itself by openly saying they’d side with mafia and threatening town.

Like this is by far one of the worst arguments I’ve heard. Nobody was attacking the slot, there was no ATE/rule breaking behavior, nobody just spamming them, nothing of the sort was done this was imo standard TS pressure.


Here’s the thing if we can find mafia day 1 and I mean 100% locked in no doubt mafia we should go that route.

We shouldn’t hunt the main Scrabby account at this time via voting.

BUT, the idea we should let a rouge eliminate which was trying to sneakily signal that they could be anti town, got called out on that, and decided to openly admit they’d be pro wolf live is ridiculous. Since mafia are going to see that, they’re gonna work towards finding who the slot is, then they’re gonna shield said slot. And this is one of those issues that gets larger the longer we leave it alone.

Vote off Scrabby D1, see how they flip, then move on to hunt mafia.

[pyxxy]

I also will not be voting for the location "short list" as proposed.

May I ask why?

THIS:

OCEANLAND Take me by the hand lead me to the land that you understand OCEANLAND The voyage to the corner of the globe is a real trip OCEANLAND The crust of a tan man imbibed by the sand Soaking up the thirst of the land

You seem to want it too bad. It makes my eyebrow twitch at your insistence on people picking Oceanland.

I cannot believe so many others just blindly follow like they have no idea what to do for themselves.

I do not know your alignment
It is only N 0
You obv want Oceanland but for what reason I can't be sure

Is that the only reason?

"I cannot believe so many others just blindly follow"
Pretty sure it's been 1 person: lucy.

voted oceanland

No idea where you're getting the impression that I've convinced the thread completely. Honestly you just seem like the type that wants to be in charge. That's fine with me! It's a short list of options for a reason!

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Let's set aside (ashore?) Oceanland for now.

@Roxy Do you agree with the general premise in my shortlist post? That mafia will likely do a similar analysis of locations and will (probably without saying so in the thread) vote as a block for a location that they believe will _not_ give a town monster some kind of power up?

Or do you disagree with my premise?

Totally possible that you've thought of some reason that town voting together is bad. I want to hear your reasoning.

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P.S. If you hate Oceanland, we've also got someone voting for Airfield, and I will happily switch to voting Airfield too, _because it's on my short list_.

- Airfield
- Bank
- County Museum
- Funland
- Oceanland
- Theater
- Tibetan Temple
- Tropical Village
- University Archeological Wing

Well i am already voting Airfield

[pyxxy]

- Airfield
- Bank
- County Museum
- Funland
- Oceanland
- Theater
- Tibetan Temple
- Tropical Village
- University Archeological Wing

Well i am already voting Airfield

No interest in Oceanland?

No way jose, haven' you seen Blackfish?

They cleaned it up and turned it around! Don't you believe in a comeback story?

Until they make an award winning documentary that changes my mind, they're dead to me.

Fine. Thoughts on Airfield instead?

Or, neutral question, do you think that town/the thread openly working to pick a location is maybe bad? Or maybe my list of locations is sus? Or anything that I suggest is sus?

[pyxxy]

also since people don't seem to recognize why I picked Oceanland from my short list

it's because of the meme, y'all
https://www.twitchquotes.com/copypastas/2012

[falcon45ca]

- Airfield
- Bank
- County Museum
- Funland
- Oceanland
- Theater
- Tibetan Temple
- Tropical Village
- University Archeological Wing

Well i am already voting Airfield

No interest in Oceanland?

No way jose, haven' you seen Blackfish?

They cleaned it up and turned it around! Don't you believe in a comeback story?

Until they make an award winning documentary that changes my mind, they're dead to me.

Fine. Thoughts on Airfield instead?

Or, neutral question, do you think that town/the thread openly working to pick a location is maybe bad? Or maybe my list of locations is sus? Or anything that I suggest is sus?

Honestly, I have no idea what the fuck is going on, I don't know what the deal is with the locations stuff.

[sig]

@Roxy any reads from the catch up?

[pyxxy]

also I feel 1000% confident that Oceanland is a monster's home

also I was worried that if I pushed for Airfield, someone would accuse me of just making a "short" list that happens to start with Airfield, and I would get even more discredited

can't believe deciding based on a twitch meme caused me problems

[pyxxy]

Well i am already voting Airfield

No interest in Oceanland?

No way jose, haven' you seen Blackfish?

They cleaned it up and turned it around! Don't you believe in a comeback story?

Until they make an award winning documentary that changes my mind, they're dead to me.

Fine. Thoughts on Airfield instead?

Or, neutral question, do you think that town/the thread openly working to pick a location is maybe bad? Or maybe my list of locations is sus? Or anything that I suggest is sus?

Honestly, I have no idea what the fuck is going on, I don't know what the deal is with the locations stuff.

Would you be opposed to just voting for whichever one I tell you to?

Like right now I would tell you to vote for Airfield, to help me make a point towards Roxy

[falcon45ca]

No interest in Oceanland?

No way jose, haven' you seen Blackfish?

They cleaned it up and turned it around! Don't you believe in a comeback story?

Until they make an award winning documentary that changes my mind, they're dead to me.

Fine. Thoughts on Airfield instead?

Or, neutral question, do you think that town/the thread openly working to pick a location is maybe bad? Or maybe my list of locations is sus? Or anything that I suggest is sus?

Honestly, I have no idea what the fuck is going on, I don't know what the deal is with the locations stuff.

Would you be opposed to just voting for whichever one I tell you to?

Like right now I would tell you to vote for Airfield, to help me make a point towards Roxy

No, I def won't be doing that.






In fact, you trying to snuggle up to me this early is def shady.





[VOTE: pyx] aubergine

[pyxxy]

No, I def won't be doing that.






In fact, you trying to snuggle up to me this early is def shady.





[VOTE: pyx] aubergine

That's right, this is the first time I've ever played like this (with you) (on TS)

Can I beg that you read my post explaining why I think town should pick a spot and vote together for it?

[I've removed the content of the post but I beg you Falcon, please read it! It's good for town and if you vote Airfield it's also good for the whales!]

[Dennis]

I like sigs posts. I don't necessarily agree with the plan but I can understand it

Creature as well but on a lesser degree

[falcon45ca]

also I feel 1000% confident that Oceanland is a monster's home

also I was worried that if I pushed for Airfield, someone would accuse me of just making a "short" list that happens to start with Airfield, and I would get even more discredited

can't believe deciding based on a twitch meme caused me problems

Hmmmm...pyxxy concerned over how the thread views them I see

[pyxxy]

also I feel 1000% confident that Oceanland is a monster's home

also I was worried that if I pushed for Airfield, someone would accuse me of just making a "short" list that happens to start with Airfield, and I would get even more discredited

can't believe deciding based on a twitch meme caused me problems

Hmmmm...pyxxy concerned over how the thread views them I see

Very much so! Everyone loves to sus me based on how they perceive me to be acting instead of reading my posts! J'accuse!

[sig]

I like sigs posts. I don't necessarily agree with the plan but I can understand it

Creature as well but on a lesser degree

The pocketing attempt is appreciated but denied. Please reapply for a pocketing attempt in 2-3 business days.

[sig]

also I feel 1000% confident that Oceanland is a monster's home

also I was worried that if I pushed for Airfield, someone would accuse me of just making a "short" list that happens to start with Airfield, and I would get even more discredited

can't believe deciding based on a twitch meme caused me problems

Hmmmm...pyxxy concerned over how the thread views them I see

Agreed here, but I do like Pyxxy on a gut level

[Jackofhearts2005]

woof woof

Yeet this

[pyxxy]

woof woof

Yeet this

Jack!

yeet me daddy

[DaughterOfOmega]

sorry I havent posted

this thread is deathly boring thus far

[Chihiro]

I don’t get this logic at all. Yes we pressured the slot but like it’s mafia? That’s what you do. And it isn’t like the slot helped itself by openly saying they’d side with mafia and threatening town.

Like this is by far one of the worst arguments I’ve heard. Nobody was attacking the slot, there was no ATE/rule breaking behavior, nobody just spamming them, nothing of the sort was done this was imo standard TS pressure.


Here’s the thing if we can find mafia day 1 and I mean 100% locked in no doubt mafia we should go that route.

It's not mafia, hunting the 3rd as early as day 1 only helps mafia get their win con solved faster. Any sany town player knows that, its more than likely anyone that puts a ton of focus on anything that isnt mafia is probably mafia themselves.

I also did not mention rule breaking or ate, so not sure where that 180 came from?

The slots not even mafia though?

[falcon45ca]

also I feel 1000% confident that Oceanland is a monster's home

also I was worried that if I pushed for Airfield, someone would accuse me of just making a "short" list that happens to start with Airfield, and I would get even more discredited

can't believe deciding based on a twitch meme caused me problems

Hmmmm...pyxxy concerned over how the thread views them I see

Agreed here, but I do like Pyxxy on a gut level

Why? Surely there must be something to your gut feel, no?

[Chihiro]

Anyways i think debating on what locations have monsters is silly because unless someone has n0 info we are just going to have to blindly pick a location.

[Chihiro]

Since I barely have any meta on players in this game I have no idea if sig being so focused on a 3rd party instead of mafia is town or mafia motivated. This goes without saying 3rd party hunting or going after 3rd party is almost always mafia motivated.

[Jackofhearts2005]

woof woof

Yeet this

Jack!

yeet me daddy

[falcon45ca]

also I feel 1000% confident that Oceanland is a monster's home

also I was worried that if I pushed for Airfield, someone would accuse me of just making a "short" list that happens to start with Airfield, and I would get even more discredited

can't believe deciding based on a twitch meme caused me problems

Hmmmm...pyxxy concerned over how the thread views them I see

Very much so! Everyone loves to sus me based on how they perceive me to be acting instead of reading my posts! J'accuse!

I mean, reading posts is how we all perceive one another in Maf games, so this does not make sense.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I can't help but notice votes are hidden. I went ahead and voted...nothing specifically until I'm sure that's okay.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Since I barely have any meta on players in this game I have no idea if sig being so focused on a 3rd party instead of mafia is town or mafia motivated. This goes without saying 3rd party hunting or going after 3rd party is almost always mafia motivated.

I haven't read the posts in question but it's on brand for Sig in general. I wouldn't take it to be alignment indicative.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Though idk what 3P role you'd even have in this game except like....Batman or the Harlem Globetrotters.

[sig]

I don’t get this logic at all. Yes we pressured the slot but like it’s mafia? That’s what you do. And it isn’t like the slot helped itself by openly saying they’d side with mafia and threatening town.

Like this is by far one of the worst arguments I’ve heard. Nobody was attacking the slot, there was no ATE/rule breaking behavior, nobody just spamming them, nothing of the sort was done this was imo standard TS pressure.


Here’s the thing if we can find mafia day 1 and I mean 100% locked in no doubt mafia we should go that route.

It's not mafia, hunting the 3rd as early as day 1 only helps mafia get their win con solved faster. Any sany town player knows that, its more than likely anyone that puts a ton of focus on anything that isnt mafia is probably mafia themselves.

I also did not mention rule breaking or ate, so not sure where that 180 came from?

The slots not even mafia though?

How does it help mafia reach their win con to remove a third party?

What’s your thoughts on scrappy openly saying their main account will help mafia?


And just to be clear I’m not saying you mentioned rule breaking/AtE or that it’s happening. What I mean is there isn’t anything close to that so your comment about Scrappy having a lot of pressure on them seems misplaced. It’s the same type of argument Dennis was making and it rings just really hollow.

In terms of mafia I mean holistically as in we’re playing mafia. Not that the slot is or isn’t mafia. Honestly I think it’s up for debate still what they are.

[sig]

also I feel 1000% confident that Oceanland is a monster's home

also I was worried that if I pushed for Airfield, someone would accuse me of just making a "short" list that happens to start with Airfield, and I would get even more discredited

can't believe deciding based on a twitch meme caused me problems

Hmmmm...pyxxy concerned over how the thread views them I see

Agreed here, but I do like Pyxxy on a gut level

Why? Surely there must be something to your gut feel, no?

I’d say their posting tempo/tone matches past civ games I’ve played with him. But, I’ve never played with mafia Pyxxy so not sure how it would match up

[Chihiro]

What’s your thoughts on scrappy openly saying their main account will help mafia?

Was this before or after yall spent 4 pages pressuring the slot?

[pyxxy]

Anyways i think debating on what locations have monsters is silly because unless someone has n0 info we are just going to have to blindly pick a location.

If you make the assumption that locations are not randomly assigned to each monster, then you are wrong.

Each location corresponds to one respective monster (town)

If you believe that locations have been randomly assigned to each monster, then you are right.

Do you have reason to believe that the locations are randomly assigned?

Or more likely...you didn't have a reason to assume that monsters are associated with locations...I wonder why that would be........

[Chihiro]

And just to be clear I’m not saying you mentioned rule breaking/AtE or that it’s happening. What I mean is there isn’t anything close to that so your comment about Scrappy having a lot of pressure on them seems misplaced. It’s the same type of argument Dennis was making and it rings just really hollow.

Wtf??? Do you correlate pressure with rulebreaking/Ate. Like am honestly confused at this enture sentence and will ignore it.

[Chihiro]

If you make the assumption that locations are not randomly assigned to each monster, then you are wrong.

cool do u have information that states this with certainty?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Yeah, I think every location probably goes with a monster. 18 players = 18 monsters (some of which are safeclaims). Assuming there are in fact safeclaims, the mafia knows which locations do fuck all to help the town so it is in our best interest to claim where we are voting and vote as a block.

That is, if we all vote randomly, most locations get 0-3 votes. Wolves could have up to 5 players (4 is a better number, probably, but theme) so we expect them to put down 4-5 votes in a shit location and we get the shit location. If we all agree to vote for the same place, it's at least the place we pick and mafia doesn't have control. I'll take coin flip over a wolves' choice.

Or I'm just wrong about my setup guesses and it doesn't particularly matter.

[sig]

Since I barely have any meta on players in this game I have no idea if sig being so focused on a 3rd party instead of mafia is town or mafia motivated. This goes without saying 3rd party hunting or going after 3rd party is almost always mafia motivated.

I 100% disagree with this, but I’m thinking it’s a cultural thing. So I won’t dwell on it, unless scrappy flips mafia.

TS has historically been really heavy with Anti town 3P that players will ignore and it ALWAYS comes back and bites town in the ass. In this case the 3P is openly scum siding.

Town literally lost the GoC 2 years ago for having this exact mentality after they voted off 2 mafia teams.

Also we can hunt mafia and third party, if anything I’m getting some amazing reads off how people are reacting to the third party so it isn’t like this is happening in a vaccum

[Jackofhearts2005]

I guess Scrappy could be 3p. I don't particularly care to pressure a sock account.

[Chihiro]

Yeah, I think every location probably goes with a monster. 18 players = 18 monsters (some of which are safeclaims). Assuming there are in fact safeclaims, the mafia knows which locations do fuck all to help the town so it is in our best interest to claim where we are voting and vote as a block.

That is, if we all vote randomly, most locations get 0-3 votes. Wolves could have up to 5 players (4 is a better number, probably, but theme) so we expect them to put down 4-5 votes in a shit location and we get the shit location. If we all agree to vote for the same place, it's at least the place we pick and mafia doesn't have control. I'll take coin flip over a wolves' choice.

Ngl I didn't look at this way, I also had no idea there were exactly 18 locations, ooops.

I am still on Airfield but ill change, its not corelated with my role at all.

[pyxxy]

also I feel 1000% confident that Oceanland is a monster's home

also I was worried that if I pushed for Airfield, someone would accuse me of just making a "short" list that happens to start with Airfield, and I would get even more discredited

can't believe deciding based on a twitch meme caused me problems

Hmmmm...pyxxy concerned over how the thread views them I see

Very much so! Everyone loves to sus me based on how they perceive me to be acting instead of reading my posts! J'accuse!

I mean, reading posts is how we all perceive one another in Maf games, so this does not make sense.

And yet you've not demonstrated any indication that you've read my posts about how we should all be picking one location together, heavily preferred that it is a location from my short list.

Instead you've gone "ew gross pyxxy is replying to me".

Here's the short list again:
- Airfield
- Bank
- County Museum
- Funland
- Oceanland
- Theater
- Tibetan Temple
- Tropical Village
- University Archeological Wing

You made a joke about Funland, would you like me to push people there?

Right now I'm voting Airfield in order to appease Roxy (who might not return before EOD). In fact, I am going to stay on Airfield unless Roxy/the thread tells me not to, because I think there's a chance that people are silently voting for Oceanland/Airfield and I don't want them to be confused + I want them to trust me. Or at least equally suspect me _and_ Roxy

[Chihiro]

Town literally lost the GoC 2 years ago for having this exact mentality after they voted off 2 mafia teams.

Well im not saying just forget about the slot, but our 1st priority should always be looking for mafia to eliminate. 3rd party slot should always get solved by or in an f5 scenario.

[sig]

What’s your thoughts on scrappy openly saying their main account will help mafia?

Was this before or after yall spent 4 pages pressuring the slot?

If someone is so willing to say they’re going to campaign against town for being put under some pressure they have to go. I don’t care what alignment they are. Like it’s shocking to me that you want an anti town player to be left alone since they threatened to take their toys and join another team.

What they’re doing is attempting to hold town hostage and for some reason you’re fine with it

[Jackofhearts2005]

Without actually going back and watching the episode or using a wiki, my location does appear to be related to my character. Weird that Pxy would say it's random. #weird

[pyxxy]

If you make the assumption that locations are not randomly assigned to each monster, then you are wrong.

cool do u have information that states this with certainty?

Is this your way of admitting that you don't have a town role pm?

[sig]

Town literally lost the GoC 2 years ago for having this exact mentality after they voted off 2 mafia teams.

Well im not saying just forget about the slot, but our 1st priority should always be looking for mafia to eliminate. 3rd party slot should always get solved by or in an f5 scenario.

Nah 100% disagree especially if said 3rs party has two votes. We can’t let a 3P like this get anywhere close to lynch or loose. Since they can just as easily turn around and vote with mafia

[Chihiro]

Without actually going back and watching the episode or using a wiki, my location does appear to be related to my character. Weird that Pxy would say it's random. #weird

pretty damn sure flavor location is directly linked to that flavor.

[pyxxy]

Yeah, I think every location probably goes with a monster. 18 players = 18 monsters (some of which are safeclaims). Assuming there are in fact safeclaims, the mafia knows which locations do fuck all to help the town so it is in our best interest to claim where we are voting and vote as a block.

That is, if we all vote randomly, most locations get 0-3 votes. Wolves could have up to 5 players (4 is a better number, probably, but theme) so we expect them to put down 4-5 votes in a shit location and we get the shit location. If we all agree to vote for the same place, it's at least the place we pick and mafia doesn't have control. I'll take coin flip over a wolves' choice.

Or I'm just wrong about my setup guesses and it doesn't particularly matter.

holy fucking shit finally, finally someone else has read the setup

god I missed you Jack

[sig]

@Neon input on Chihiro thoughts when you get a chance.

[Chihiro]

If you make the assumption that locations are not randomly assigned to each monster, then you are wrong.

cool do u have information that states this with certainty?

Is this your way of admitting that you don't have a town role pm?

well I just read my role pm again and does seem my location is directly tied to my monster flavor :P

[pyxxy]

Without actually going back and watching the episode or using a wiki, my location does appear to be related to my character. Weird that Pxy would say it's random. #weird

I'm saying the exact opposite and I'm accusing Chihiro of being a wolf for seeming to not know that locations are linked to monsters, because reading a town role pm would make it obvious that they are.

[Chihiro]

Town literally lost the GoC 2 years ago for having this exact mentality after they voted off 2 mafia teams.

Well im not saying just forget about the slot, but our 1st priority should always be looking for mafia to eliminate. 3rd party slot should always get solved by or in an f5 scenario.

Nah 100% disagree especially if said 3rs party has two votes. We can’t let a 3P like this get anywhere close to lynch or loose. Since they can just as easily turn around and vote with mafia

vote maniplation should be off in xylo, f5 with 1 mafia and a 3rd party is def xylo. Unless this game is bastard? Which I dont think it is.